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another WEP (White elephant project)

Kobojunkie:
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wetin dey do u sef

^^^^^^^

The reason is given

You talk of chopping off the Oxygen supply of those the benefit from the so called fake "subsidy". How would that be done if the system is corrupt at the first place.

What makes you think they would not find another route.

Ok here is another route of which these so called subsidy thieves would benefit

- Gej removes the subsidy and speaks of buiding 4 refinaries
- cost of production of fuel is 20 Naira per liter but the cost the government sell it is 145 Niara per litre
- 2 Years down the line, GEJ would talk of privating the NEW REFINARIES
- He sells it to his friends WHO WERE THE SUBSIDY THIEVES AT THE FIRST PLACE.

WHO IS THE LOSER ?

This is just one case study, I am such there are even more advance methods of milking the people.

Beaf:
I tend toward the view that the subsidy be removed, but will not be fully convinced until all the details of the palliative package are out.
There is a steady drip of information, but access to the full story is very tightly controlled (I guess its from lessons learnt with the way false stories get into the papers easily). However, its known that the removal will be done in stages and will not affect kerosine.

Lets wait to hear the full story, but in my opinion, we are better of dumping any fuel subsidy primarily because of corruption. Many people have grown even more liquid than Nigeria from unbridled theft (in the name of subsidy) and it is impossible to fight them in the law courts with the current state of corruption of the average Nigerian. Strangely, these people cannot even be fought in the law courts, because they have written the laws to suit themselves, so their pocketing of trillions with the milk of babies and the sweat of the poor has been covered legally.
The best thing to do is cut off their source of oxegen. Chop them off.

A lot has been done to sanitise our oil industry, but the oil subsidy reciepients need to be defeated to complete the job. Our rifineries will never work until that lot are vanquished.

Beaf Beaf Beaf oo !! How many times did i call ur moniker. HAVE A CONSCIENCE and stop being insensitive. Haba

You talk of chopping off the Oxygen supply of those the benefit from the so called fake "subsidy". How would that be done if the system is corrupt at the first place.

What makes you think they would not find another route.

Ok here is another route of which these so called subsidy thieves would benefit

- Gej removes the subsidy and speaks of buiding 4 refinaries
- cost of production of fuel is 20 Naira per liter but the cost the government sell it is 145 Niara per litre
- 2 Years down the line, GEJ would talk of privating the NEW REFINARIES
- He sells it to his friends WHO WERE THE SUBSIDY THIEVES AT THE FIRST PLACE.

WHO IS THE LOSER ?

This is just one case study, I am such there are even more advance methods of milking the people.

Imposition of candidates

failed democracy

complete rigging

manny4life:
Well let's hope he has a backup source to this policies; me think he should seek wise counsel before delving into this. Unless he intends to create a "hot and fierce" competition, and we know competition drives price low, Nigerians are in for a hardship ride. I hope and pray he knows what he's doing.

Well I really hope he does know what he is doing as well. To me and I think to other millions of Nigerian, we just think he wants to make life harder for us while Iweala and him PLAY the western Plans for Nigeria. Moreover, I don't think there would be much competition as you suggested for the price to go down.

I remember when OBJ did this deregulation thing at 85 Naira, the prices fluctuated between 82 or so to 86 at different filling stations. Not much effect when compared to the inflation that followed.

manny4life:
What I think the plan is if he removes subsidy, increases licenses to import petrol, that will cause competition and that will automatically drive the cost down. If that is the plan, there he needs to execute it properly. Personally, I think the adverse effect won't be that worse like be thought it to be.

LOL well sorry to break it down for you bros but that is NOT his plan

Him and Iweala's plans are as clear as day. Remove the subsidy so that the FG would spend less and the extra savings can he kept for themselves and friend . This I think is his plan.

arsenefc:
Alhaji, I thought you said you dont speak Yoruba?

i actually do understand and speak it. not that good though

still learning more

arsenefc:
You are a racist.

Racists have no place in a civilized world.

Ileke, se o je "banono?"

my O my fstranger oooo nno kill me

Areosapien:
Haaaa! No be lie o!
'Ringim' na turn by turn. You 'guy' me, I 'guy' you, na '' we dey call am
Anyway, congratulobia to the Lagosians jare! Dem don make dem choice. Nobody should talk 'nansense' for their side. Na back-hand dem go dash am

congratu what!!!!!!

I am SAD that ACN won all seats

I rather vote PDP or APGA instead of ACN

It was rigged

No internal democracy

Impostion of candidates

There is NO WAY ACN COULD HAVE WON ETI OSA AND IKORODU

NO WAY!!!!

Eko Ile:
More killings and kidnappings I guess.

Oh sharrapt dia

Like it does not happen in Lagos

Or did Lagos not ban Okada after a certain time ?

Hypocrite

igbo boy:
alj harem, abeg anioma is not an ethnic group,  Those of us from Delta North historically never called ourselves ANIOMA. Biko ANIOMA is a modern term with no historical significance coined in the 50's

Very correct sir, Biko bros no beg o this I already know

Actually, the quoted the site I got that from

anioma is a collection of clans together to be called anioma during the separation from the west in 1950 or so

[quote author=tpia@ link=topic=787469.msg9410320#msg9410320 date=1319481531]^^you'll have to spell it out for me if you dont mind.

owo is in ondo state. Is there another one in ogun?


owo in olden times was one of the regional slave trading centers- not sure if this is the connection you're referring to?[/quote]sorry I meant Owu people of the egba

the connection i meant was this

HISTORY OF THE YORUBAS
the common saying, " Egba ko I'olu, gbogbo nwon ni nse hi Oba "
(Egbas have no King, they are all of them like masters)

although the egbas have kings now . not too sure

[quote author=tpia@ link=topic=787469.msg9410257#msg9410257 date=1319480950]^^not aware of this ogoga title.

what's the pronounciation?

there seems to be two kings in ikere- an olukere [of ife origin] and the ogoga [who seems to have migrated from benin]. Got this from a quick search.

never heard of this conflict before.

as per the ogoga/ogaga meaning- that's entirely possible.

we also have juba in yoruba which means worship or respect, and juba happens to be the name of a roman emperor of african origin.

so, there's really a lot that needs to be looked into by informed minds with the right training and experience.

owo, for example, can mean respect or honour in yoruba but it's also the name of a town.[/quote]Strange isn't it

I was also reading history of yorubas by rev samuel Johnson and to my greatest surprise I actually found a connection between Owu people of the egba clan and the present day Igbos (Btw Obj is an Owu man in egba)

I don't know if u noticed it as well ?

Ogaga or Ogoga actually means king in Ekiti yoruba dialect

In urhobo it means Power

Hmm

for example Ogaga or Ogoga of Ikere

http://www.britishmuseum.org/explore/highlights/highlight_objects/aoa/p/pair_of_door_panels_and_a_lint.aspx

hmmmmm

[quote author=tpia@ link=topic=787469.msg9410040#msg9410040 date=1319478777]omo oodua is the correct term.



anago, eku, etc were all used to describe yorubas in diaspora- particularly yorubas who were enslaved overseas.


yoruba was used by the hausa for the people to their south [west].

i'm not sure oyos themselves went by that term. To the best of my knowledge, they simply called themselves oyo.[/quote]also what is the meaning of ogaga in yoruba in terms of name ?

[quote author=tpia@ link=topic=787469.msg9409922#msg9409922 date=1319477537]aribisala's focus is more towards the east.

his analysis on this thread is geared that way as well.

yoruba, just like lukunmi, anago and eku/aku, are words used by outsiders to describe southwesterners in ancient times.

on a side note, some yorubas try to call themselves oodua which technically also isnt quite correct. Omo oodua is more accurate.[/quote]I think

Ooduan is more correct than Omo odudua.

Not all yorubas are children of odudua. Odudua[b]n[/b] is more of a coolective term to acknowlege him in yoruba history.

Also I actually found out that the term Anago was actually awori descriptive name I am not too sure while Yoruba was from Oyo.

Also what did the benins call the the ife people ?

Today, the Yewa people are mainly located on the Western part of Ogun State of Nigeria. They comprise the Ketu, the Sabe, the Ije (Ohori),Ifonyin, Anago, Eyo and Ogu (Egun)
On the Northern part of Yewaland is the Ketu sub-ethic group. Ketu towns of Ijoun, Ijaka, ljale, Egua, Igan Alade, Imeko, Owode-Ketu, Tata, llara and Idofa etc. were founded by emigrants from Ketu (founded by Alaketu and now in the Republic of Benin).
South of he Ketu are the Ije (Ohori) located in Oja-Odan, Obele, Ohunbe, Ibeku and lsale. Further to the South of the Ohoriare the Ifonyin whose main kingdoms are Ikolaje, llashe and Ifonyintedo.
To the Eastern part of Ketu, Ohori and Ifonyin are the sub groups originally referred as Egbado. These include the people of llaro, Ibara, Ilewo, Ilogun, Imala-Aiba, lIobi, Ibese, Igbogila, Imasai, lsaga, Igan Okoto, Joga, Ayetoro, Idofoyi, Tibo, Keesan, Oke-Odan, Erinja and Ajilete, among others.
South of the Egbado are the Awori who settled in towns such as Ota, Ado-Odo and Igbesa. West of the Awori are the Anago interspersed by the Eyo who settled in Ipokia, Agosasa, Ijofin, Ibatefin and Ihunbo.
To the south of the Awori and Anago are the Ogu (Egun) largely concentrated in and around Badagry. The Egun have intermarried with the Aworis, Anagos and Egbado and their main settlements are Tube and Maun.

http://yewaunionlagos.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=47:history-of-yewa&catid=29:history&Itemid=28

also this

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=MhOJheUc4pkC&pg=PA237&lpg=PA237&dq=awori+anago&source=bl&ots=EisSA-eYXX&sig=wAyL-KGdcstCZqTUH2fmt12x4R4&hl=en&ei=F6OlTqz-Mcyo8QPi0p3UBQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBsQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false

Andre Uweh:
All.
Aribisala is an intelligent poster.

true that.

Andre Uweh:
WORD.

What part of the statement draw your attention ?

rhymz:
. . Scheeeew, reminds me of one stale joke that went un-noticed. Keep LOL, U slowpoke!!

calm down brother. why the hiss

what have i don wrong ?

[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=787365.msg9409687#msg9409687 date=1319475239]You and your generations are ret'ards.Who fu-cking care about what you feel.simple question was asked and you are tripping here;vomitting rubbish.Like i said earlier,if you can't answer the question,why not fu-ck off ![/quote]

Eko Ile:
^^^oloshi scumbag. Ordinary question you can not answer, all you know how to do is gbamm gbamm follow follow.

Souless I.diot with zero spine and guts.

Typical. That was why I related Bluetooth to you eko ile.

Now read and read carefully.

You 2 portray Yorubas to be tribalistic of which they are not. LEAVE THE IGBOS ALONE AND LET THEM BE.

If they believe Ojukwu was a hero and insult Awolowo, then so be it. How does this affect you two ?

Ojukwu being a brave icon or not has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with yorubas or in fact Nigeria.

You 2 have dragged the Yorubas so low that they are been portrayed as arrogant people which engage in NON-PRODUCTIVE DISCUSSIONS ON THIS SITE which is not the case. WHEN LAST HAVE YOU PEOPLE BEEN TO LAGOS, ABUJA, PORT HARCOURT OR WARRI ?

When last have you people been to the SW ? Yorubas don't engage in mindless babbles such as this you are portraying them to be.

If Ojukwu or Gaddiffi were brave or not, it has nothing to do with Nigeria because they both were not Nigerians. FULL STOP

1stCitizen:

LOL true talk na. So are calling u ofe mmanu aka Yoruba already even after u said u were ijaw.

Others are calling u alj harem.

rhymz:
take your hypocritical laughter to hell, na who dey open teeth with you dis double-faced, backstabbing pretentious FIEND. I will rather dine with a Yoruba person than frolic with foolish pseudo-moralist like you.

LOL see frustration brother. calm down brother

How was ur day ?

arsenefc:
That article is ridden with plagiarism. She plagiarized Farooq Kperogi

thanks

[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=787365.msg9409583#msg9409583 date=1319474407]Ghadaffi vs Oju iku. . .who's the real man ? Answer it or fu-ck off ![/quote]LOL typical ideeiot just like Eko ile

Answering such question would be seen as an ethnically biased answer and as such would be generate strong views from those that see him as a hero.

You see, you have to respect people leaders if you want yours to be respected.

Already, the thread has degenerated from who is the real man to yoruba vs igbo or igbo vs ijaw.

Now the question is how would this answer improve creativity or improve your thinking ?

noiseless:
WELL YOU CAN ANSWER THAT TO YOURSELF UDELE ORIE ONICHA UBOMA!PARHEPS THE SAME WAY TO YOU ONITSHA/ONICHA IN MANY IGBOLAND IS CORRUPTION OR = ORISHA IN YORUBALAND ACCORDING TO YOU.

Hey stop this ur attack on me. Philip emeaguali an Onitsha man suggested this. I am not saying or insinuating that it is a yorubaland or what ever. In fact we should be glad that we have a common ground for our unity. It has nothing to do with Igboland or yoruba land

Pukkah:
It will soon burst because the thieving leaders have overdone the corruption. They have embezzled so much that they have become endangered and at the risk of the anger of[b] the masses who no longer have anything to lose. [/b]

Yes ooooo

tell them as it is