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Ybutterfly:
^^^^^^^^^^^^Amen, I need to start blaming these stu.pid yoruba's as well; they allowed igb0's to start talking trash about us^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Yoruba's need to start caring for their own and leave igbo's and etc alone^^^^^^^we are not the same people^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^hausa's fought them, then when the war was over they turn around and start talking trash about y0ruba's^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^I'm not saying hausa's are better but at least most of the time they don't talk trash about y0ruba's and stay with their own people and problems^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

^^^^^^^^^^^d0 you know of a sepAr@te forum for y0ruba's only?

Unfortunately no, I would just urge you to no go to the political and tribalism section. Just stick to romance, family etc anything apart from those 2 sections; they are not for the faint hearted I must say. Even the cultural section should be rare.

Ybutterfly:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Well all the power to you because this needs to stop^^^^^^^^^^the SE should keep to themselves and just leave yoruba out of their problems^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^yoruba's have their own issues and don't need outsiders to add to it^^^^^^^^^^^^Once eacg tribe learns how to keep to themselves then you will see these tribal threads end but if it doesn't^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^their will be many more after me^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^I am not the only one(Theifofhearts, and many others) but I admit I am the most direct about it^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^I also blame some i-d-i-ot yoruba's as well for grouping up with these igbo's on NL as well, some of them are seeing how s-tupid they seem^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

You see, that was the problem from the start. I wish all yorubas can just think like me. If it is up to me, I would not get involve with Igbos at all at all !!! but then again as you rightly said, we have some very very stu.pid yoruba people that have and still bring down the honour of yoruba by exchanging words with them.

But thanks Ybutterfly

Ybutterfly:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^I know yoruba's are not perfect but do you blame eko ile or bluetooth when non-yoruba's start trouble with us^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

nah, I think they are all to blame including I myself. Ezeuche and Mekus etc we are all part of it.

I am ashamed of it to be honest, But the reality is that Yoruba people are more or less liberal and would not want to shut them up. I guess it just got to a point where someone just had to do it. From then it just spiral out of control.

But still if they continue the rubbish of insulting Yorubas and Hausa or northerners without a cause then I would be there waiting for them. They know

Seunn11:
These Ibos are incurably si.lly and arrogant. Nollywood had been in existence before your ilk invaded it! And lack of your creativity has ruined it for others. On JAMB enrollment, you seem not to get the point that many of your admission seekers are doing it every year without ever progressing!! And absolute figures for each regions still shows you are trailing the trailblazers!!
On crime, you top it like crazy. You are born criminals. Vicious killers. despoiler. Cannibals etc

mumu, can u shut it.

what lack of creativity are u talking about ?

is it the same nollywood the world now knows ?

noollywood is not = igbo

people should ignore the mumu

Ybutterfly:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^NL igbo's are the ones causing it, I just want them to stop talking about yoruba's we are not the same people^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^once they do that you won't hear nothing about me retaliating against them^^^^^^^^^^

Yes very true, But the Yorubas on NL are not any better

Once you have people like seant02, Eko ile, bluetooth and co then You know tribalism has entered that discussion.

Majority of them are not tribalistic but respond to tribalistic post because it is annoying to them as well.

Action (tribalistic post) and reaction (Response)

I really wish they can stop calling yorubas in every discussion but then again knowing them, they would not stop. That does not mean we should go on the attack. Although occasionally they need to be shut up.

U get me

Ybutterfly:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^True, Y0ruba are n0t tribalist but we are not g0ing t0 be insulted for no reason^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^the 0nly thing similar between y0ruba and igb0 is we share the same land through colonizati0n^^^^^^^^^^^^^after that we are not the same^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^I blame the y0ruba i-d-i-0-ts interacting with igb0's in the first place^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^that will all0w them to speak badly about us^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^their using akata against yoruba's to^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^I want them to feel a taste of their own medicine^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Thats why I'm glad y0ruba never joined the igbo in their s-tupid biafran war^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^when wE all know that war is between hausa and igbo^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^instead of those people to take their frustrations on Hausa's they keep bumping up threads of y0ruba's^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Yes, I do not understand there fixation on Yoruba people or west of river Niger Even in meetings the leaders always talk of yoruba

All said and done, I guess it is the love they have for yoruba or might be something else. Who knows

All I just want you to do for me is ignore them even if those threads are the most tribalistic annoying thread u have seen about yoruba people. Pls just ignore it. If there is any need, leave them to me I and the NL igbos understand each other .

Thanks for doing this for me

htajz:
tell your yoruba brothers to grow some balls and stop hiding behind peoples ethnicity , leave ijaws out of this rubbish thread, ijaws are the only ethnic group that have continued to fight the evil nigeria right from independence ,remember we fought the first civil war against ironsi  the last thing an ijaw or a niger deltan will do in his life is to call anybody that have also challanged the fed govt coward.

No one spoke about ijaws or any ss

All i am saying is that stop insulting the yorubas or northerners. Either insult the poster, tackle the topic and stop this ur delusion that all posters against Ojukwu are yorubas because I can bring out evidence of Ibibios, Ijaws, Edos,and even Igbos that called Ojukwu a coward of which they are well know public figures in there various societies

Just stop it and continue with ur topic. As you can see, Yorubas and Northerner have avioded this topic like a plague. So stop pulling the dog's ear

htajz:
many of them especially those schooling in the east, i will say this again no easterner including midwesterner(even you) will come out and call ojukwu a coward whether you like him or not, dont you see what these yorubas are trying to do? divide the east and your asking me such silly question. even northerners wont call him that its only yorubas that have issues to grind with igbos that do that , yoruba should grow some balls and use their ethnicity instead of trying to hide behind other peoples ethnicity.

why not stop posting crap

I can bring out articles of not only ijaws and mid westerners but also Igbos calling okukwu coward and differnet names

Better leave Yoruba and fulani from ur post and we would be cool.

Ybutterfly:
^^^^^^^^^^ they should go and fight the people that insulted them not put s-tupid threads about Yoruba's^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^if they had done that it wouldn't have gone this far

You have to understand that in every society, there are stu.pid people which I am guilty of at times. The problem is they feed off the hate they get just us as in ur case as well.

They are a very emotional people and see little things as hate for them. You need to understand the igbo people. It is a case of identity and complexes.

They are mouthy and so are us the yorubas thus it is really hard for them and us to understand each other.

Think of it this way.

To them if a yoruba poster writes what they do not like, they view it as the WHOLE YORUBA ethnic group HATES them and as Humans as they are, they would react.

the same with the yorubas, they would react as well.

Ybutterfly, I would urge you to jsut leave them alone. Let them open as much bashing threads as they want, it is a case of love would always defeat hate aka in both cases.

Because this is the same way I started and I would not want another tribalist on Nairaland, our people are not tribalistic. thanks

Ybutterfly:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^y0ruba's sh0uldn't mix with igb0 they are n0t 0ur pe0ple^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 

calm down. Igbos are nice people in fact to a fault if u get to know them. Forget this NL rubbish. the igbos here are probably reacting to triibalistic threads opened by some stu.pid yoruba posters.

Igbos are really cool people

I am yoruba btw

Abagworo:
Now that you have come to the real issue,Olukumi is no lost language as people may assume but in fact one of the earlier name of Yorubas.The Olukumis in Ugbodu migrated from Owo which means Owo speaks Olukumi.Records from slave era often referred to Yorubas as Lukumi.The only thing that happened is that the Delta Lukumi retained some lost words which might have been peculiar to some Yoruba area in the past.

I personally feel sorry for the loss of their dialect but this world is a growing one and we should not be stuck in the past.

interesting, thanks

Abagworo:
SMH@ how people find pleasure in trying to divide Igbos.Alj Harem, I was the one that posted that Ugbodu thread on Nairaland and now you are trying to twist things using the thread. I feel ashamed each time I encounter any Igbo man working tirelessly to find a reason for being different from Igbo.It is like a man trying to run away from himself. The Anioma area consists mainly of people of Igbo origin and couple of Edo and Igala migrants.The Olukumis now speak Igbo but still have traces of their original language left in songs and rituals.The diverse origin of Anioma area just like the SE area is not in doubt but saying there are 12 languages in Anioma is like saying there are 30 languages in Southeast,

where did i say they are not anioma Igbos ?

Infact the link I brought suggest that the author wants anioma state to be part of SE. aka Igbo states so not doubt they are igbos.

All I want is information on oluku mi people that is all.

Igbo bu igbo. Igbo is Igbo whether anioma and co. again odumchi took me the that discussion which I never intended to get part of.

All I want is Oluku mi people information. biko.

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=787673.msg9399246#msg9399246 date=1319336860]As long as the person no be Yoruba sha.

Who else should they turn against? You want then to come to your village so they proof that they're not against their own ppl?[/quote]Ileke idi, that is a very very silly thing to say. So the person that died is no human just because he is not yoruba. What is wrong with you

[quote author=Chyz* link=topic=787469.msg9399238#msg9399238 date=1319336576]GO BACK AND LOOK CAREFULLY. THEY ARE NOT CHANGED. THEY ARE LINED UP CORRECTLY. COUNT THEM 1 BY 1. TRUST ME, YOU DONT KNOW ANIOMA LOL[/quote]again they are anioma but why did that website give some false claims . They might be Igbo now but I really want to know of the Olukumis

I do not really care what Nigerdelta congress say. I want someone who knows more of the oluku mi. thats all

[quote author=Chyz* link=topic=787469.msg9399218#msg9399218 date=1319336057]LOCAL GOVERNMENT COUNCILS, CLANS, ETHNIC ORIGIN AND TITLES OF THEIR TRADITIONAL RULERS

S/Non                Local Government Council                            Clan                           Sub-Clan                 Ethnic Grp                             Titles           Remark

1.                               Aniocha North                                  Ezechima                       Issele –Uku                   Ibo                      Obi of  Issele –Uku
                                                                                         Idumje                         Onicha Ugbo                 Ibo                      Obi of  Onicha Ugbo
                                                                                          Odiani                         Onicha Ukwu                 Ibo                      Obi of  Onicha Ukwu
                                                                                                                            Obomkpa                      Ibo                      Obi of  Obomkpa
                                                                                                                            Onicha Olona                 Ibo                      Obi of  Onicha Olona
                                                                                                                            Ezi                                Ibo                      Obi of  Ezi    
                                                                                                                            Obior                             Ibo                     Obi of  Obior
                                                                                                                            Issele Azagba                 Ibo                     Obi of  Issele  Azagba
                                                                                                                            Issele -Mkpitime             Ibo                     Obi of Issele Mkpitime
                                                                                                                            Idumuje Unor                 Ibo                     Obi of Idumuje Unor
                                                                                                                            Idumuje Ugboko             Ibo                     Obi of Idumuje Ugboko
                                                                                                                            Ukwunzu                        Ibo                     Obi of Ukwunzu
                                                                                                                            Ugboba                          Ibo                     Obi [s]of Ugboba
                                                                                                                            Ubulutu                          Ibo                     Obi of Ubulutu
                                                                                                                            Ugboga                           Ibo                    Obi of Ugboga
                                                                                                                            Idumuogo                       Ibo                    Obi of Idumuogo[/s]
                                                                                                                            Ogodo

http://nigerdeltacongress.com/karticles/local_government_councils.htm[/quote]why did you change with your link posted to suit your motive ?

YOU LINK NEVER put Ugboba, Ubulutu, Ugboga, Idumuogo as Ibo ethnic group so why lie chyz ?

Why ??

why did you add ibo to it when your link did not do the same ??

why brother why ??

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=d2q5o25NNfcC&pg=PA238&lpg=PA238&dq=oluku+mi&source=bl&ots=LDvdThi4A9&sig=jpCOfFuhk4SVbPGMmfXRdBGMqN0&hl=en&ei=M3SjTvf3Gcm58gPtzY3KDg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=7&sqi=2&ved=0CEwQ6AEwBg#v=onepage&q=oluku%20mi&f=false

Seunn11:
@ nanidee,
what a brave girl you are. You cant even wait for a response to you coward talk. Like father like puz.zy
Who want to be of tribe of cannibals? armed robbers? and other anti-social behavior?
you all pour into Yorubaland everyday. What is your problem? Stay in your land and be yourselves. Stop being vermins!

na wa o

you knew what you are causing with this thread right ?

Leave them alone, abi wetin. Leave Igbos alone and Ojukwu

ezeagu:
What have you found out about the Olukumi so far?

so far, not much. All I know right now is that they are part of anioma igbo people

also they live in 4 areas delta north of ugbodu being the main place.

some words and poem in Oluku mi language which was very interesting.

Since some of you have been to delta north, maybe you can educate me more on olukumi people

odumchi:
Tell me how Ika is more Edo than Igbo? Tell me how the king of Agbor and the Ika is Obi Benjamin Ikechukwu, an Igboman, but yet according to you they are Edo? Man you have to think.

Bros to be honest, That is another thread entirely; I would leave Ikas for the Ika people, I am talking of precisely Oluku mi people and my studies on them as a people.

As an Awori Yoruba man as myself, I find it fascinating the similarity between Oluku mi people and my people. I am not doing anything funny here (because of the way u went defensive) I mean that the end of the day, they are now anioma people and the only connection they have with yorubas is the language.

All I am trying to do is know more about them before I visit the place (Ugbodu), that is all. I want to use this medium to trace any ancient Yoruba words that have been lost. That is all.

EzeUche:
You have not realized that this mallam is an ofe mmanu?

at least you know now PointB

by the way, is mallam the new why of calling northerns and Ofe mmanu the new way of calling yoruba people ?

odumchi:
Onwe ihe ma ma vukwa na uwa?

Look at someone trying to tell me what is my own language and what's not. O'boy Ika=Igbo. As an Igbo, I don't have to be from a specific area to speak that dialect. Ika is just another version of Igbo so what does me being from Arochukwu have to do with me speaking Ika?

What I wrote to you is Agbor (Ika) Igbo mixed with Ukwuani. You don't get it. Ika and Olukunmi are not the same. An Ika speaker will not understand Olukunmi and vise versa.

smh, Did you read the first few post i posted

of course Ika is more related to the Binis aka edos but Oluku mi is a no and are part of the anioma ethnic group

you can not call them Igbo as you wish.


[b]The Anioma culture over the time has become distinct and typical to the region, thus no ethnicity or group of people can justifiably lay claims to this culture because it is unique to the region. The uniqueness of this culture has ordinarily on its own tended to fend off arguments from quarters laying claims to the beautiful culture of this people. The Anioma culture they say speaks for itself. It has also beaten the imagination of several cultural observers on how speedily the culture and tradition of Anioma people have become homogenous in spite of the group not having common ancestral history as many historians mistakenly assume.

Although certain communities in this region can lay claim to Igbo ancestry as supported by oral history, many of these group have their histories obviously not linking them with Igbo home as their place of origin. [/b]It is for this reason that those ignorant on Anioma history fail to understand that in Anioma more than 12 languages exists in this region alone. The Agbor people w[b]ho are of Ika ethnic group but agreed to join the union of Anioma with the rest of their neighbouring communities scattered around the region chiefly because all the towns and communities in this region[/b] have had a common history of relationship even many centuries before the arrival of the Europeans, and have shared common culture speak Ozzara and Ika.

The Ugbodu speak Olukumi (extinct form of Yoruba language,) Igbo and Igara. The Igara language is not typical to Ugbodu, else where in Evbu this language is also in use in addition to Igbo language. In Igbodo, Igbo and Ika is spoken by the people. Ika is a language similar to Bini. These languages strange to Igbo reflect in everyday usage in names of humans, articles, and chieftaincy titles shared with the Edos believed to be the ancestral home of many of these Anioma communities.

http://www.ibusa.net/mysite/anioma2.htm

odumchi:
This thing that you wrote is not Ika, it is Edo. This is Ika dialect:

"Nwanta amulu na nuno
hafuluya ko nsogbu
amu oke ke abu
asina o ozioma.
ifa gbanwujulu wo anya
obibiaya kofaraya
ke chioma na chiojo na uno ofu
hafu ke chiojo ka o di?
nene oke gufara akwukwo ka o okwarawo
yo si na
nwanta a bu azhi shili ikike
bi na oshimili"

I stopped here. But I hope you get my point.

VERY VERY WRONG SIR. that is Igbo and certainly not Oluku mi.

You are not an Oluku mi

this are oluku mi words

ita—pepper, ogede lila—plantain, ogede keke—banana; ku wu se—what are you doing; ule house; osa – market; oma—child; o dowuo—see you tomorrow, e bo—welcome

Moreover I proved links for mine, why are you not doing the same

For all I know, you can just be another person posting from his head to gullible people.