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xkape:
i can see that for once, our illustrious bloggers are speechless? Or is this post so stupid that it is not deserving of an answer
@allonym
is that all u can come up with? did god create the auschwitz concentration camp? indirectly he did because he created all matter and energy in the multiverse. but the responsiblity for "creating" that particular atrocity fall into the hands of man.
you're missing the point,the question is; did God create hell in the context of a place of HUMAN torture? NO. As a region reserved for angelic rebels, probably (i don't know the full explanation to that part of the story). That human spirits go there, after they have been ejected from their bodies, is only a natural consequence of the laws of existense. Even God does not break his own laws

Utter crap. If everything that happens is Gods will, and God already knows everything that will happen, and God is the supreme creator, then he knew what would happen when he created lucifer, and humans, and hell, and so, thanks to God, we find ourselves in this (appropriately) God-forsaken situation.

nicetohave:
That was an inspiring write up. Well yes God did create hell but no it wasnt originally meant for man, it is clearly written that hell; was prepared for satan and his angels.

What then takes man into hell?; the law of cause and effect; aptly put the law of sin and death and that is what Jesus has come to remove:

for there is therefore now no condemnation to them are in christ Jesus, for the law of spirit of life in christ Jesus has set me free from the law of sin and death.

If man sin by his free will, and God has made provision for him to be redeemed it is only reasonable for him to accept the offer of redemption by his own free will.

Did God throw sinners into hell? Yes and No, naturally as the writer has said, there is no where else for them to head, no sinners face shall see the Lord!

Jesus said, he has not come to condemn the world but to save it, however he who does not believe in him is condemned already and the wrath of God abideth on him; wrath? the place prepared for the devil and his angels, looms over him!

what are we saying? live in absolute rebellion and disobedience to God by our free will and against all persuations still refuse and reject his offer his redemption as a loving God and then still march into his presence and kingdom? because he is a loving God?

come on now, think about how foolish that is; if you make hell it is a conscious free will of yours catalysed by your primitive, naive and foolish thinking that a loving God wouldnt throw his creations into hell, absolute absurdity!

For you to imply that God created hell initially only for Satan and then later made it available for humans is to imply that God made a MISTAKE. You know what that is called, its called BLASPHEMY!

welborn:
Must you really go this far to be ridiculous? If you don't believe in the Bible, why do you strain yourself so much to babble in every thread and make it so obvious? The Bible Code is not the same thing as the Bible, so don't try to make a fool of yourself in quipping that maybe you're the true Bible. There's a very thick line between making good sense and sounding off uncivil. What are you trying to achieve with an attitude like that?

I'm the one who is ridiculous? You don't see anything ridiculous in the stupid bible code? Who is fooling who? If there is a bible code, then obviously, I must be God.

Seriously people, this is the best blonde joke ever!

http://www.peterprovost.org/archive/2006/01/14/10843.aspx

that's not a bad idea . . , i'll go tell the others.

why would losing his soul keep him from enjoying the world?

if a woman takes the morning after pill, the chances of pregnancy drops significantly. For someone to be pondering whether or not to have the child of a rapist, they must have pretended it never happened long enough to be in such a situation.

[quote author=SIBLI_06 link=topic=4610.msg233430#msg233430 date=1141822117] As a race we can be horrible people at times. How can somebody rape his own sister. Angelbaby we thank God that your friend had the courage to report it, a big weldone to hot-angel & Seun for their advise it obviously helped.

I know about a similar situation involving somebody in my family (Wife's side), where the guy has raped all 4 of his sisters whilst growing up and living at home. I still can not decide what to do re this guy, he is married now with kids (2 boy's thankfully) and is not really involved in family matters. As a Christian I am trying to forgive but I am struggling as occasionally when I see him around I want to rip his head off. He may have changed I don't know but he still deserves a good kicking in my book. I am not a Nigerian citizen so it would be extra foolish if I was to intervine with violence. After saying all that I must add I don't condone violence in any form. I just go a little to pot when I think of the damage he has done to my family members and close friends.

love to all. [/quote]Raping has nothing to do with being black.

satellites cannot "see" people walking about on the street.

How exactly would the satellite differentiate between a "militant" and a villager?

i know premise is a basic assumption.

But basic assumption for what? Why there is nothing fundamentally wrong with communism? What my beliefs about a higher power actually are?

its sad,

if i was evil, I could create a race of people by painting them yellow and forcing scientists around the world to say that they are naturally that way.

And those people would actually be treated differently from everyone else.

hmm, let the children fall into the wicked hands of christians or nonchristians

Ok, so you say ppl cannot prove God does not exist. . .yet nobody can prove God does exist. .

So, let me get this straight. . . there is this thing which nobody can prove exists. . . and nobody can prove doesn't exist

well, for all intents and purposes, it does not exist.

well, typically there is a burial held for you. if you are an organ donor, then the organs will be harvested from your body. If you died in a suspicious manner, you may undergo an autopsy.

Depending on your wishes, your body would be cremated, rather than buried. Also, your ashes may be kept in some sort of jar by your family, unless you legally (ie in your will) ordered that they be scattered someplace.

oh, and some people may or may not cry.

it means nothing

if God was good, bad things could not happen.

[quote author=mlks_baby link=topic=4808.msg250916#msg250916 date=1143066767]allonym,

could I ask you a question? What is your premise - atheism or theism?[/quote]My premise for what?

there is one problem with the barber.

In order to get a haircut, you have to pay the barber.

The poor man never paid the barber, so the existence of hair on his face, is independent of the existence of a barber.

its always amazing these codes.

Funny how they never predict the future, they only reveal stuff I already know.

Whoa. . .the bible code revealed things I know. . .maybe I'm the true bible

The world has been coming to an end for the past two centuries, I figure, its probably not ending until after I die.

I always wonder how it is possible that something is too long to be read.

The whole world.

What does it matter if he loses his soul.

Hell itself is contradictory. The bible says that people in hell will be punished for all eternity. . . and later says that hell will be destroyed.

If everything that happens in life is God's will, then God obviously made him gay.

If God had nothing to do with him being gay, then everything that happens cannot be according to the will of God.

And if this is the case, then the probability of nothing being the will of God increases.

If we say that God is the creator of all things, then God created hell.

camara:
i don't think AIDs is from God.and why there hasn' been a cure till yet is because it's kills all of the body's defence systems unlike malaria and other ailments.
but then again AIDs is accuired so if 1 wants it u accuire it
(with the exception of people that got it through means they couldn't prevent)

If God is the creator of all things, then AIDS comes from God.

If AIDS did not come from God, then God could not be the creator of all things. And if God is not the creator of all things. . . .then the probablility of God being the creator of nothing increases.

Wow, you have posted a lot yet said so little.

The person who posts here as idiot and I share a computer. I posted under his account because he didn't log out. To be fair. . . I don't log out either when I'm done. . .

In any case, I'm starting to question your sanity. Here is what you said about my post:

[quote author=mlks_baby link=topic=4808.msg250880#msg250880 date=1143064670]allonym - (March 18):

Once you accept this to be true, you realize that unless we are wrong and God is NOT
omnibenevolent. . . then God cannot exist since its behavior contradicts what its
supposed to be.


allonym - (March 18):

So, an omnibenevolent omnipotent omniscient/omnipresent God, will end all suffering for all time.
In fact, such a God will cure us of any inkling to sin. . . which destroys any argument about God
having to maintain some balance between killing us all and being merciful. However, as you
indicate, God does not do this, and neither does the police. . . This means, God is just as useful
(or USELESS) as the police. . . this would also mean God was not omnibenevolent, omnipotent,
or omnicient. Which would mean there is no God. . .because if there was, it would have those
qualities, and cure humans of all evil.


idiot - (March 18):

If you are saying that your argument for the existence of God only works if I consider it from your
viewpoint, but not any possible view, then. . . God as you define it, cannot exist. And there would
be no point in discussing it further with you. . . I have not said God cannot exist or does not exist,
just so far, the God you are describing cannot possibly exist.

See? Your statements above are clearly drawing inferences - your own inferences - that God cannot exist; and then later you deny you made the statement. Let me help you see your give-away about this 'maradona' dribbling you've been playing so well:[/quote]So, in my statement, I am drawing inferences. . . my own inferences, that God cannot exist based on the qualities of omnibenevolence and others.

Then, I later say, AGAIN, based on the nature of God as defined by Choice.A, God cannot exist.

Now, I will ask you, or anyone else, to try one more time to explain, how I have indicated here, whether or not I actually think God exists or not.

It seems to me, all I have done, is shown that based on assumptions made by Choice.A and the bible, God does not exist.

Perhaps, I'm the idiot and cannot read. . . but, you quoted me yourself, and still you don't seem to understand what you are reading.

The bible also says thou shall not kill, however, God instructed his people over and over again in the bible to kill others.

So, clearly, in a life or death situation, God will understand me saving my own life to serve him for another day.

It is not possible to define God.

To do so would impose constraints upon God which would render God's existence impossible.

However, since it is impossible to define God, is there any point in talking about God's existence?

Since when is it not our business?

God would like me to give money to others to help them in their time of need. What if I consistently gave money to someone who was clearly using it to buy drugs. Is this a, well, I just did what God told me to do, so it doesn't matter?

If a pastor is misappropriating funds, its time to have him removed.

i don't see how it is productive to go through life expecting step-mothers to be evil.

Enough!

I can bare this no longer.

I will reveal the truth NOW!

I am TUPAC. I did not die. . . it was all faked.

Can you all just let me pretend rest in peace?

elphem:
Your name sound african but (south) tot u are from Zimbabwe'.

is this rihanna south african?

https://www.singeruniverse.com/rihannajayz.jpg