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NEROSKY:
Pls experts help!!

With this extortionate inflation, I am not sure but in Sept 2014 I completed a three bedroom flat with one parlour for 2.1m. I already had a plot of land, though a plot of land in my village is less than 100k.

mayorchelsea:
I expect some people from the other side to run around looking for the regions most and least represented. One of them is above already soliciting such information,children of hate.For those of you who made it,we look up to you to bring sanity and positive change in the force.You've condemned the NPF severally, don't join them in their notoriety.

The system is already corrupt (institutionalized corruption). There is nothing these few can do no matter how good they are. E.g official price for int'l passport is N17500 bt Immigration collects 28k or more depending on the state.

Mckandre:
For where? That's how some people thinks the owners of MMM makes their money by pageview and traffic, I tried explaining but no way,smh. Yesterday one guy was saying na by the mb u use browse their website,i laugh m commot. some people still dey far sha.

How can you try explaining what you yourself don't understand. Google pays for pageviews pls (revenue per mile, rpm or per 1000 views). You earn extra frm clicks.

Omonoba1:
dont bother replying that guy..he knows nothing!

Well Mr know all, perhaps this Nairalander knows nothing too.

Mayflowa:
I actually decided not to reply again because your tone is a little bit harsh. To be clear, your surgeon friend is more on my side than you. Only surgeon is thought to be different from Physicians. Isn't it funny your friend even added Non-MBBS position to the list of physicians? Like you I have excess to Physicians. My siblings and their wives are all doctors.

Physicians examine patients; take medical histories; prescribe medications; and order, perform, and interpret diagnostic tests. They counsel patients on diet, hygiene, and preventive healthcare. Surgeons operate on patients to treat injuries, such as broken bones; diseases, such as cancerous tumors; and deformities, such as cleft palates. Check US department of Labor :
http://www.bls.gov/ooh/healthcare/physicians-and-surgeons.htm

So from the foregoing, Gynecologists could also mean physician, so are others except Surgeons. Right? So who is more correct between you and I? You specifically refer physicians as a trained consultant in internal medicine before you started shifting ground.

About Nairaland, I owe a lot to it. I have taken a lot from here and I have given lots to it. But that is your friend's cup of tea. Do you really know we could gather here and change the course of governance even up to presidential ticket if we agree?

I am sorry if my tone got you offended. It's not intended. You are still misquotting me. I never referred to internal medicine as the only physician specialist. He isn't on ur side. The same list or fields i mentioned are the ones he reinforced. Check the statement where he made emphasis on internal medicine (most times we refer to them as physicians in hospital settings), wic was Wat I meant too when I mentioned internal medicine.
Unlike u, u said everybody is a physician. I specifically asked him if he, a surgeon was a physician, he said no. Check the chat again. But you have since maintained that everybody is a physician.
I even said that all Physicians are Specialists but not all Specialists are Physicians. You still didn't agree with me.
I am a pharmacist (first degree), I've got three other MSc n a PGD. my elder bro n younger sister are Drs, my 1st cousin is a Dr, my bestman is a Dr, this my surgeon friend is a childhood friend now in d U.S. I currently work as an emergency response officer (on a team of 4 Drs, 2 nurses n myself). I won't jst be saying what I don't know.
Regards.


Check out the screenshot for a response from another Nairalander, thorpido.

Mayflowa:
No I do not agree with you. Any Specialist is a physician in a loose statement. That is why you have Physician Assistant, PA( You will know exactly what that is since you studied in US). Do you mean to tell me PA only serve your mentions specialist. You are the one dancing around not me. You previously said Physicians are internal medicine specialist alone and later extend it to group of specialists. I am telling you everyone one of them can loosely be called physicians and PA serves all of them. Capiche? lol

Most importantly, if you knew these are debatable especially from region to region, why then did you call me layman or you thought I was a pushover? A layman knows nothing, doesn't understand anything! So be selective of your words. That is my only advice.

My chat with my friend (a surgeon) in WhatsApp.

Omonoba1:
won't waste my time on someone who thinks he knows all.. probably others will enlighten you. and for your information, I don't need to ask around because its my profession..

I just asked my surgeon friend on WhatsApp.

Mayflowa:
No I do not agree with you. Any Specialist is a physician in a loose statement. That is why you have Physician Assistant, PA( You will know exactly what that is since you studied in US). Do you mean to tell me PA only serve your mentions specialist. You are the one dancing around not me. You previously said Physicians are internal medicine specialist alone and later extend it to group of specialists. I am telling you everyone one of them can loosely be called physicians and PA serves all of them. Capiche? lol

Most importantly, if you knew these are debatable especially from region to region, why then did you call me layman or you thought I was a pushover? A layman knows nothing, doesn't understand anything! So be selective of your words. That is my only advice.

Honestly, I think you have a comprehension problem or perhaps ego issues. A layman here simply means a non-professional in the field/specialty in context. e.g An engineer is a layman in the medical field and vice versa.

Mayflowa:
No I do not agree with you. Any Specialist is a physician in a loose statement. That is why you have Physician Assistant, PA( You will know exactly what that is since you studied in US). Do you mean to tell me PA only serve your mentions specialist. You are the one dancing around not me. You previously said Physicians are internal medicine specialist alone and later extend it to group of specialists. I am telling you everyone one of them can loosely be called physicians and PA serves all of them. Capiche? lol

I never said physicians are specialists in internal medicine only... Don't misquote me pls.. Well, keep calling everybody physician... It's ur choice.

Mayflowa:
Now you should take a look at the Royal College of Physicians. A larger body that that of West African.

https://www.rcplondon.ac.uk/join

The screenshot below are all those who can join. Why would they join if they can't be call physicians?

If you are a good student or someone who wants to learn I told you earlier that even though the term physician is often used to refer to all doctors or medical practitioners, it not true in real sense. All Physicians are Specialists bt not all Specialists are Physicians.
West African college of physicians (WACP) here http://www.wac-physicians.org.......internal medicine, family medicine, community medicine, n paediatrics make up d college.
Also check out the West African postgraduate medical college at (www.wapmc.org), click on college of physicians and learn more.

Mayflowa:
Now you should take a look at the Royal College of Physicians. A larger body that that of West African.

https://www.rcplondon.ac.uk/join

The screenshot below are all those who can join. Why would they join if they can't be call physicians?

Oh you want to leave the Nigerian context u said we shud stick to now? Lol. I see.

Mayflowa:
I see you are already extending the definition of your physician. Interesting...

Extending it to where.. Have read the links I sent to you?

West African college of physicians (WACP) here http://www.wac-physicians.org.......college.
Also check out the West African postgraduate medical college at (www.wapmc.org), click on college of physicians and learn more.

Mayflowa:
will tell you the school I went to. I have acquired degrees in Africa, Europe and North America. I have a PhD degree and I am an academics.

We are the people that easily tell you not to cite wikipedia in academic papers. We have our reasons: articles could be updated and may not contain the information you cited and it shows you are lazy as every subject can be found on Wikipedia.

However, wikipedia is not a bad source. This is no academic papers. Wikipedia would easily guide you to the true academic papers you wants at the bottom references. With wikipedia, you can understand background to your subject and can further your researches from there. That is what we advise our students to do.

I have been more systematic is reaching my conclusion. I have directed you to a wikipedia source and can more for you. On the other hand, you have shown me nothing. All talk, no substance. We don't deal that way.

You must agree that these words are used interchangeably in Nigeria and many other places. On this premise, you lack the merit ro call me layman like there wasn't sense in what I am saying.

Even in the places you mentioned, physicians are still used loosely. Government officers have personal physicians which are necessarily internal medicine specialist, there are family medicines expert, Gynaecologist up to pediatrics. So what are you saying?

Before you go quoting Wikipedia again check out the West African college of physicians (WACP) here http://www.wac-physicians.org.......
Internal medicine, family medicine, community medicine, n paediatrics make up d college.
Also check out the West African postgraduate medical college at (www.wapmc.org), click on college of physicians and learn more.
A gynaecologist is not a physician in real sense pls.
I told you earlier that the fact that the word physician is used loosely and interchangeably (With Dr or medical practitioner) does not mean physician is not a specialty. You just don't want to learn. I understand, academics think they know it all. Well I have a B.Pharm (Nig), MS (USA), MSc (uk), MSc ( Nig), PGD.Epid (India).

[quote author=Omonoba1 post=51618367]you are indeed the Layman my friend.. physicians. are just doctors ( with MBBS or its equivalent) not a specialist with FWACS certificate or its equivalent... before you argue further, pls google it.[/quo

Before you go quoting Wikipedia again check out the West African college of physicians (WACP) here http://www.wac-physicians.org.......
Internal medicine, family medicine, community medicine, n paediatrics make up d college.
Also check out the West African postgraduate medical college at (www.wapmc.org), click on college of physicians and learn more.

Mayflowa:
My friend, Wikipedia is constantly verified and to a large extend they are good source. Show me one wikipedia post that is inaccurate and I will show you five faulty cademic papers. Not on simple definition like physician. Thank God you have accepted your limitation. I was referring to Nigeria beca use that is our context of discussion.

Before you go quoting Wikipedia again check out the West African college of physicians (WACP) here http://www.wac-physicians.org.......internal medicine, family medicine, community medicine, n paediatrics make up d college.
Also check out the West African postgraduate medical college at (www.wapmc.org), click on college of physicians and learn more.
Read it and get educated/enlightened.

Omonoba1:
won't waste my time on someone who thinks he knows all.. probably others will enlighten you. and for your information, I don't need to ask around because its my profession..

Lol@my profession. You are probably a quack then. Coz even if it were ur profession as u claim, does dat make u ''all-knowing". Even consultants (fellows) don't know it all.
check out the West African college of physicians (WACP) here http://www.wac-physicians.org.......internal medicine, family medicine, community medicine, n paediatrics make up d college.
Also check out the West African postgraduate medical college at (www.wapmc.org), click on college of physicians and learn more.

Mayflowa:
My friend, Wikipedia is constantly verified and to a large extend they are good source. Show me one wikipedia post that is inaccurate and I will show you five faulty cademic papers. Not on simple definition like physician. Thank God you have accepted your limitation. I was referring to Nigeria beca use that is our context of discussion.

I have not accepted any limitation. I still maintain that u quote Wikipedia at ur own peril. I was only educating you that though the words are used interchangeably here in Nigeria, there is a difference. Physicians in real sense are specially trained doctors (post MBBS) in internal medicine. I don't know what you studied nor which school you graduated from but you should open ur mind to new ideas or stuff u thought u knew. It will help you add knowledge.

Mayflowa:
Oh my Gosh! Are you really sure about this. Take a look at Wikipedia :

For you to quote Wikipedia for me lol, you really have work to do...pls read books and ask questions. Don't ever make d mistake of quoting Wikipedia in any academic environment.
Though physicians and medical practitioner can be used interchangeably especially in Nigeria n USA, u can't even do that in Australia and new Zealand. Physicians are experts in internal medicine..

Mayflowa:
Oh my Gosh! Are you really sure about this. Take a look at Wikipedia :

For you to quote Wikipedia for me lol, you really have work to do...pls read books and ask questions. Don't ever make d mistake of quoting Wikipedia in any academic environment.
Though physicians and medical practitioner can be used interchangeably especially in Nigeria n USA, u can't even do that in Australia and new Zealand.

Omonoba1:
you are indeed the Layman my friend.. physicians. are just doctors ( with MBBS or its equivalent) not a specialist with FWACS certificate or its equivalent... before you argue further, pls google it.

Lol at MBBS, a typical Nigerian...jst ask around coz I can see u don't know how to Google.. All Physicians are Specialists, yet not all Specialists are Physicians. A layman knows all doctors as physicians bt there are physician specialists.

thorpido:
If it's a simple illness you buy drugs and treat yourself.If it's something more serious,you have specialists in differents areas of medicine.You simply consult one in the area you need e.g if you are a gynaecologist and you are sick,you could consult a colleague who is a physician.
Sometimes you could consult a senior colleague too.

In a sane environment where things are working you can only buy over the counter (OTC) medicines (without a prescription) . But you must present a prescription for you to get POM (prescription only medicines) whoever you are; layman or doctor. And a doctor cannot prescribe for himself (it is an offense) so he has to see another doctor to get a prescription.
Note that all antibiotics (e.g ampiclox, Amoxil, cipronol etc) are POMs but in Nigeria you can even buy ampiclox in a hold up in Oshodi or from a market woman selling in the market.

Mayflowa:
Lol but all doctors are physicians. I was thinking you were going to name another specialist department away from gynaecology

Lol. You are indeed a layman. Not all doctors are physicians. Physicians are specialists just like gynaecologists and others.

AnonyNymous:
Nawa o

And they moved this to the fp

Well the logical thing is to treat it themselves/prescribe their own medication and if its beyond their control then they go to another doctor. . .

OP, what do barbers do when they want to barb their own hair?

What do electronic engineers do when they need to fix their own phone?

What do architects do when they need to design their own house?

Lol...u don't understand how the health system works and its legal implications (medico-legal). A doctor can buy over the counter (OTC) medicines for minor illness. However, for illness that requires a prescription, the ill doctor (now a patient) needs to see another doctor for examination (and prescription) as he/she cannot prescribe for himself/herself (self prescription is a serious offense).
Also the judgement (and mental alertness) of a sick doctor may be compromised which could affect his decision making process leading to wrong diagnosis and inappropriate treatment/prescription.

20. Revise your answers before submitting:
This number 20 sha.......for 100 questions (MCQ) in 30Mins? Abi na d 1hr for 10 solid essay sections (each section for different lecturer for the 10 lecturers that took the course) with each section having atleast 2 questions?. ....mbanu! In this condition, you only try to stay calm so u don't wee wee on ur body when you hear 10 more minutes.... If ur handwriting no change on hearing '10 more minutes', na him be say u be witch....

Nice one OP.

CallMeNJay:
In the University of Port Harcourt....You can hardly get 7 first class from the Entire school during Convocation.

Schools in the West , North and East keep bagging First Class.

But when you come to South South ....Count yourself Lucky if u get a 2.1.

I guarantee you, a first class graduate from A.B.U is a first class anywhere in the world. Quote me anywhere. I know what I went through to make 4.52 seven years ago.The best graduating student had 4.60. We both proceeded to Unilag for MSc (in different depts), he got 5.0 out of 5.0 and proceeded to UK for PhD (of course you know they won't allow him come back). I got 4.8/5.0 in Unilag, went to USA for another MSc and got 4.0/4.0. before returning here to work ( i don't want a PhD for now). In Unilag we both got that their scholarship (Trainee Assistant, TA). Mind you there were other first class and 2.1s too that went for the interview for the TA award.
My friend made 4.6 in Physics (A.B.U), went to Canada and made 3.89/4, got Cambridge scholarship for phD, afterwhich they retained him there.
Another friend from chemical engineering, got 4.2/5.0, went to MIT for masters (on scholarship), came top of his class n got a studentship for phD. He is now working with an oil n gas firm in the US as a manager.
The very guy that encouraged me not to give up also made first class, breaking a record of 14yrs of no first class in his course. He went to UI for MSc n got 4.8/5.0. He is in UCL now on PhD scholarship. These are real facts.
I respect any first class from A.B.U. When the Senate decides to single one person out of the many potential first class students, then that person must really be good.

This doesn't happen in A.B.U Zaria. Once u pay ur school fees n accommodation fees (all online), u select ur hostel n room of choice online, print it n take it to the porters for endorsement. The hostels are opened on the 1st day of resumption and students are allowed to even stay in their former rooms to enable them complete the payment process, even though you can pay anywhere in the country in the comfort of ur home and even pick a room before making ur journey to campus.
You have the opportunity to pair with ur friends if u like. There are rooms for 1, 2, 4, or 6 occupants depending on ur level and the hostel. You don't need to know anybody to get a space, it's on first Come first serve basis. Once you pay ur fees early when the rooms are available and u select one, u are good to go.....

KillerBeauty:
This is terrible. This happens year after here. I experienced it when I was there. Before I decided to go off k.

This is the reason why I will never further my education in any Nigerian school.

Don't generalise pls. This doesn't happen in A.B.U Zaria. Once u pay ur school fees n accommodation fees (all online), u select ur hostel n room of choice online, print it n take it to the porters for endorsement. The hostels are opened on the 1st day of resumption and students are allowed to even stay in their former rooms to enable them complete the payment process, even though you can pay anywhere in the country in the comfort of ur home and even pick a room before making ur journey to campus.
You have the opportunity to pair with ur friends if u like. There are rooms for 1, 2, 4, or 6 occupants depending on ur level and the hostel. You don't need to know anybody to get a space, it's on first Come first serve basis. Once you pay ur fees early when the rooms are available and u select one, u are good to go.....

My elder brother who dropped out frm SS1 (he is 37yrs old now) received sense several yrs after our dad had passed away and accepted to return to school. He was already married with two kids. In 2012 he enrolled in a private lesson, registered for GCE and made 9 credits. He wrote JAMB and got admission to study BSc Biochemistry. He is in 400L now (rounding off very soon with a 4 point Something cgpa). I have convinced him to go for MSc soon after graduation and then PhD (he is interested in lecturing) and he is excited about it.

I am his third young bro. and I graduated at 23yrs in 2009 with a distinction. My younger sister (next to me) finished in 2012 in a 5yr course. These made him (my elder bro.) very discouraged and he felt he was too old but we encouraged him that age was just a number.....today u need to hear him speak about passion, determination and goal setting....

Just don't let age be ur limiting factor.. 24 is not even old.....

G007:
You don't need 20 passport photographs...

That's how people keep deceiving PCMs
My own still plenty here...i go soon throway them sef

Throway passports? Lol. U will always need it..... As a new employee, for int'l passport, for health insurance policies/purposes, house rent agreement, marriage registration (in court) etc.

uxdesigner:
nysc is jst one unnecessary program. make sure u carry wit u a waist pouch and keep all ur valuables in it. carry it where ever u go be it toilet or bathroom. lock ur waist pouch in ur box when sleeping and put the key under ur bedsheet close to ur head. lock ur bucket to ur bag else ur bucket will develop legs and u wont see it again.

Hahhahahahhh I bought bucket thrice in camp.......even my white converse developed legs...

7. Certificates/Licences: For Doctors, Pharmacists, Nurses & Lab Scientists, take along your proof of certification.

If you fall in this category, pls don't fail to get ur license or evidence of payment (bank teller or council receipt).......No be play play matter o....my eye clear for camp....

He's wasting money unless his engine design specifically calls for synthetic car.

Let's be realistic here, we're talking about a run of the mill Camry. Had it been an engine built to absolute tolerance like a Supra then using a full synthetic oil is advisable.

Additionally, I hope you guys that jump on the synthetic bandwagon and are going for long term oil change (without sending your oil to a lab to verify if you can indeed use a long term interval oil change) are using the correct long term oil filters.

A good dino oil from a reputable manufacturer changed at prudent interval is all that is required.

PS: Don't ever presume to educate me on what Mobil1 is or isn't.

Source: http://quicksilvercars.villageheadmaster.com/

Pls which oil is suitable for Hyundai Tucson 2013 model (SUV)? I have been using Mobil 1 too but I really want to change, it's too expensive. The car manual was stolen in Lagos.