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spyder880:
True, we cannot entirely prevent that ouside attack, but the one wey dey vex me na for man like me to walk into my house and order me around just because he has one small gun! We go just act Desperado for that place

Bullet proof car!!!
I love that car too sha
lol!

[quote author=Demain_man link=topic=606079.msg8200889#msg8200889 date=1303739753]@Am Alone, Can you tell me why u need a bullet proof door in naija?

Even though you are able to afford it. I for one will put my security in God's hand first because I believe that in Nigeria no one is 100% save if one's enemies remembers them.

Even banks with their bulletproof doors/saves get robbed on a daily basis.

Just guard your house against petty thieves and leave the rest to God. No go end up building a prison ooo with all these 'custom burlgary proof' and bullet proof doors o [/quote]Lol!!!
Except THE GOOD LORD GUIDETH, THE WATCH MAN WATCHETH IN VAIN!!!! --- OLUWA CHAMPION!!!!
Security doors is not a necessity. It is just like a luxury!
Anybody wey like am, and fit afford am fit go for am!!! -- No big deal!
Even if my entrance door no be bullet proof, e go need to dey very very solid!!!

I just called the so called Mr. Biola and he was telling to come over
that security doors have range and quality. He even mention that they have
some that sells for 250,000!!!!
I plan to use bullet proof door for my entrance to the house which is 4ft wide and 9" thick
and the kitchen door that lead to my backyard and plant to you another solid door there too the door is 4ft too!
but I can't decide now if it is going to be bullet proof or not!!!

If the prices are very reasonable, It will. I used 9" block through out my house - rooms and toilets
now I learnt I can get solid security door for 28k if it was to be 6" thick(the price is sure to come down)
but the 9" is very expensive. and I can get for 40k solid door(the price is sure to come down)
also, they have some of 12k to 15k. These doors are made with fiber and I don't think it can serve the purpose of security doors.

Overall I will say 5m can build you a standard 4bedroom bungalow to taste here in Lagos(table flat land and not water-log)
so do not be discouraged. However, if you are going for top-class stuffs
there is no define amount to how much you can spend on your house.

@ All,
I am planning to go and buy my security doors this Thursday.
I have being making some esquires and was told the best
place to get security doors here in Lagos is Mushin!
I have got a contact of one Mr. Biola that sells this doors in Mushin
and have also been told that the spanish security doors
sell for around 40k plus for the 3ft door and 60k plus of the 4ft door.
though I learn there are some 4ft doors that sells for as much as
120 to 150k. They are mostly bullet proof. And is always fit for entrance.

I am not saying those that cannot afford security doors should not build their houses oo!!!!
Anyways, I have said it before. The China onces is also very good and solid. And for the 4ft doors,
I was told you can get it for less than 38k. It helps beautify your house as well. and is very
secured too. Just shine your eyes when buying these doors. Again I was told by another engineer
that I can get the China once for 25k to 28k for the 4ft security. But I believe it all depends
some are much finer and much stronger than others. So it all depends on what you want!!!
Peace!!

@ Davedavy,

I will say it all depends on the ratio at which you want to mix your cement
The required is 1 bag to 12 head-pan of sand. And again it also
depends on the type of blocks you are using. You see 9" block consume
more cement than 6" block. If you are setting 4000 blocks, and they are all
6". 40 bags of cement should be enough.

Peace!!!!

^Thank2

Spyder - Thanku
Payless - Thank2
Chaircover - Thank2
More grease 2yours 2
in all u do!
Peace

They finished the roof today
I don't really have much time to snap around.
But I hope this pic say it all


Happy Easter 2u All!
SHALOM!!!!

@ All, for the aluminum windows for my house,
I plan to use Tower Aluminum(Nigeria) because I
was adviced it is very okay!!!!
Also, we have the imported once. They all have grades
I strongly advise us to know what we want before we
pay for them. Because these people can really take a huge
advantage of our naivety

Anyways, for the towers aluminum
I have got a quotation from another person
for my 4 by 4 window, he want to do it for me for 25k(i am still searching)
The last quotation I got was 32k!
Please note if you are using the imported ones, it will be cheaper. Just
don't let anyone deceive you! Also, ask for a sample of what they want
to supply you. Keep the sample and use it to compare what they bring
later!
Peace!!!!

The bricklayer commence with the fence today!
I paid the diggers 22k(dept is 1ft6)
The digging includes the foundation of the security house
and a toilet very close to it. The money also includes the casting of the foundation
of the fence and the security house!
Then for the bricklayer, I negotiated 55,000 with him
for him to fence the land round!(size of the land is 60 by 120 and also, the height is 12 coaches from foundation)
This is the first house I am building myself. If I had to do this over again,
I think I will really save money! But again, when one consider the increase in the price of materials, I think
I will still be close to this amount(But it sure will be cheaper na!)


Peace!!!!

The roofing is now about 96% completed
They will round up everything tomorrow
I went round and saw some little mistakes
that I want them to work on. They will
do that with the remain of the roof, hopefully
tomorrow!!!
Updated pic!

^^^^^^^^^
LOL!

I am not very sure this people will finish the roof today o!

@ spyder, thank you very much!!!!
I will be glad to to see you shed some
more light on these two aspects of investment!!!
Also, I will like you to take it on a wide scope.
You know the cost of construction varies from place to
place. Though I believe, where the cost of construction
is much cheaper, rent is cheaper and the other way round. . .

Peace!!!!

^^^
If you are around Lagos tonight
you can block mi @ 'D PLACE' - Ikeja
11:30 Till dawn! Lets pop sometin!

^^
Thanks man!!!
And you not looking bad either!

the house so far!!!
they may finish the roof tomorrow!
Tomorrow is going to be the 4th day
since they started it!
Peace

^^^^
That is just an example!!
You can see land for 400k to 500k
120k and you can get for even 4million

but you don't expect anyone to pay you 500k per annum ooo
like where I live, land goes for around 4 to 5m
and my 3bedroom flat goes for 180k
So you can do your calculations still!!!!!
or if you think I'm just saying, you can use your location too!!!
anywhere the cost of building is very low, so will the rent there be!!
Like say you can build a 3bedroom bungalow or 2.5million, you don't
expect anyone to pay 400k per annum for it and still pay agreement, agent, and pay for 2years
because that is around half what it takes for them to build theirs  !!!
Oshey
I'm I Communicating?

there is a risk involve in Nigeria mortgage)
once again bad tenant!!! And this our interest rate is too high!
and building can be fun you know??

the risk of rentage too is when you get a bad tenant!!!

Also, not the profit I gave above for the sale of the house is very low - I know
Some people even build with inferior things. Then they get a good bricklayer to
do the plastering. . . . ---- Those bricklayers must be doing a very good jobs
so you don't have to see the rubbish that was used for the house!!!

Though on the long run, rentage is still very good ooo!!!! You know, I really love collecting rents
from my dad house!

Olubuffett, why I say so, is because it can take you up to 14years to get back your investments.
but if your are doing a good business, you can get back your money in less than two year!
And you know the cost of land on Lagos road right?
For me oo, I prefer to build a house and sell!!!
That way I can get back all my money and my instrest as well in a very short time
use the money, build another, and sell again. On and On and On!!!
In 5 to 10years time, I will be floating in money!!!!
And you can agree with me that new house are more expensive to rent than old ones right?

Example, I build a house and land for 15million and I sell 17.5(which is very reasonable in a year).
I gain say 2million for sale say agent gets the remaining, calculate that in 10yrs time, that is to say, I must had made up to 20million as profit alone
by then you are yet to recover your 15million from rent!!!!

You see some people build a very lovely house and put it for sale, they know what they are doing
its called business!!!!

One thing you need to consider is the land. Like a place here where rent for 3bedroom flat is 900k per
annum, the cost of land there is from 35million(omonile will still take their %, lawyer, agent and every other things)
that is to say to get a land there will cost you close to 40million(including omonile and the others).
Now again, you can't just build 'anyhow' house there and expect someone to come and give you 900k per annum.
It has to be very classy! And because of the location, the cost of construction is high there too!!! Say to build a 4 block of 3bedroom
flat to their standard there will cost you 12million(I laff - It sure will cost you more than that!! I am just keeping it low!)
Now say you are collecting 900k per year for each of the 4 flats!!! Calculate and tell me how long it may/will cost you to get back your money!!!

And again, you can maximize your profit by building a very beautiful/classy house and sell it for more profit(disadvantage is when it took you a very long time to get a buyer! But there are some very reputablee agent here in Lagos that can sell your property for around 6month. Their share is just 10% - maybe negotiable sha!)

Someone taught me this! I think it is very okay! If e no make sense to you, abeg no con say me dey do me! me! me!!!
this is what even fashola did here in ikorodu!!! He built a house 3bedroom flat and was selling for 7million! All has even been sold!!!
Peace!!!!

@ Raplola

The roofing of my house commence two day ago.
And from the look of things, it is going to take 2 more
extra days. I just hope you like the finish product of the roofing sheet.
Total money spent on the roofing sheet alone is 1,466,000.00

435m2 of Stone coated tiles 870pcs @ 2700 ==== 1,174,500.00
94pcs of angle ridges by 1.45m        @ 1580 ====   148,520.00
3pcs    of power paint black            @ 3000 ====        9000.00
40kg    of stone nail                       @ 3000 ====     12,000.00
20meter of aluminum verda brion for gutter @ 1100 == 22,000.00
Tranportation ======                                  ===     15,000.00
Installation @ 200 per square meter ========            85,000.00

Total paid: 1,466,000.00

This is the best I could do! I tried my very best, some places I went, the
roofing sheet goes for as much as 3,480 per square meter.
But i got is for 2,700.00 and the thickness is 4.5mm which is the highest guage(as i was informed)
for the stone coated roofing sheet. The 4mm is a bit lighter. But the 4.5mm is quite better.
But again, you can compare it to aluminum even 7mm thickness. Stone coated is far thicker and heavier!
Peace

the house as at yesterday!

I will post the updated pictures tomorrow

It comes in little pieces like this.
Two of these below makes a square meter.
Peace!!!!

Re: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex
« #1438 on: Yesterday at 08:54:12 PM »
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I did some little works on my house and it cost me a total of 21,000 including cement

21,000 + 6,213,870
Net Total: 6,234,870.00

Above is my very first post and the second and , !~!!!! Where did I say me! me! me!!!
I never mentioned anything about quality or me - Did I?
Then Coss75 as what was the life span of the roof to aluminum?

what is the life span of your roof over that of aluminum,

my reply

Forever  Grin Grin Grin ?
50yrs!(when the stones may begin to fall off, but the roof will still be there)
25yrs appearance guarantee(that color and shape and everything will look exactly like that for 25yrs guarantee!!)
And the beauty it gives your house is mind-blowing!!!

It is above aluminum!!

Then spyder wrote:

Ha! Am alone is really back with a bang.
Here we go again, talking about which materials we think are better, but once again, I will add that this is a matter of choice, so that those of us who cannot afford N1.6m will not roof their house. Please go on and use aluminium tiles if you think thats what you can afford. Zink is even good and has been known to last for 100 years.
Am not saying stone step tiles is not very good, but lets not make it sound as if people has been living in inferior houses just because they used aluminium. And going by the dynamic industry we operate in naija, stone step tiles will become 'old fashioned' in a few months time.

Someone please tell me where did I go wrong Did i mentioned above that aluminum is inferior?
Somebody asked what was it durability over aluminum. I didn't go in detail. I just said it was above aluminum
without going into details. Did I say aluminum was inferior If you go back to all my previous post, you will see I have always
supported aluminum. Okay, where did I say me! me!! or me!!! above?? If I didn't quote my post that I said it, please post it.
NAWAHOOO!!!

Raplola:
@ Am Alone, is all me! me! me! People should just ignore your posts. 97% of your posts is all about telling people you're the best, I know people like you. Just look at how many complains you've got about your posts. Why can't you just lie low and contribute to this thread in a sensible way. You need to understand not everyone in this forum are Politicians or as successful as you claimed to be in whatever you do.
I will advise you to use your head when spending your money, nothing last forever. At 25yrs of age you must be really good with making money spending all this dough with make believe original.
Good job though with your bungalow and 3% positive posts.

Bros what is your problem here?
Do you even understand anything at all?
Abeg go and read those posts well again. I came here, post pictures of my roof
gave all the amount. Where did I say me?
Spyder came and was over me.
Abeg no let me use insulting words on you!!! Carry go!

Whitehorse:
@ All,

One salient point that Spyder888 has made which we must NOT forget is that there is difference when you are building a house for yourself, and when you are building a house for investment purposes. Its two VERY different scenerio.

For example, @ Am Alone is building a luxury house for his PERSONAL use, and he wants to put everything HE considers top quality

@ Syder880 is also building for his PERSONAL use, and is putting what HE deems if fit for HIS purpose.

Now i'm building a house for my Dad in our hometown somewhere in Enugu state, i'm NOT going to spend 1.2M on the roof ! I wont live in the house, so why "waste" the money? Aluminum roofs will do.

I'm also planning to build houses for rent in plots of land i have somewhere in badagry where i was told the rent for 2 bedroom flat is about 100k per annum. Would i spend 1.2M for the roofing? I definitely WONT! Do you want me to recover my investments 100yrs from now? Abeg o.

Please lets remember the profit to earning ratio we got taught a few pages back. Lets build according to our income and durability.

PS: I live in Scotland, and there are 100-500yrs old houses up for sale here, people are living in them, banks provide mortgage to buy them, and they have not fallen apart because they are MAINTAINED.

Weather you use stone tiles, Zinc, Aluminum or even Nylon for roofing, you MUST maintain the house, else it will fall apart. Its that simple.

Peace my people!

You are very right you know? But I want to bring somethings to your notice!!!!
To be honest with you, in the whole of Ikorodu, we don't have this roof on up to 20 houses!!!!
I have being in Ikorodu for close to a year now, and I have seen it only on 3 house(including mine!!!)
That roof is a luxury!
But again when you go to Island, this roof is like their culture!!! You see it everywhere and on
almost every house!!! Bros, I never remembered mentioning on this thread that I want anyone to use this roof - did I?
And for your information, there are some house here in Lagos that house rent climbs up to 8million naira!!! per annum
everybody with his or her own! One mans meat can be another poison!!!!
and for your information aluminum roofing if you are using step tiles, it cost around 1.1million to do a nice aluminum step
tiles roofing. You can always save money by reducing the height of your roof! Mine is 12feet tall, I have seen roof of less
than 2ft tall. Nobody is forcing you to do anything. And again you can even use zinc for your house.
And again forget maintenance! If you use inferior things to build, no matter the amount to maintenance you
apply, it will show no effect. Like if you use zinc to roof your house, no matter the amount of maintenance you apply, it will still
rust.
As a matter of fact, here in Ikorodu, nobody is using asbestos to do their roofing(except those that cannot afford aluminum).
If you build a house with inferior materials because you will not be living there, it is okay. But I want you to remember that
when those tenants pack out, the house will still be yours. So when it begins to give you problem, you will be the one to suffer it.
Building houses for rent is not a good business because it will take you a very long time to recover your investment. And as a result,
people I no who goes into it, build to sell. It is always better. Now if you build a house with inferior materials, you don't expect the buyer
to give you all those millions just like that - do you?

Am Alone:
@ Kem4
one of the best aluminum to use is the brown ones.
Because it hardly changes color. Those very flashy ones
will change color in no time and it will be very obvious.
You know brown looks a bit more like dust?
So when it changes color it show almost no difference.
For the other colors like green, red, blue etc
forget them. Brown or the other ones that looks like ash
is always advice-able

Spyder, you said I was lying.
I didn't say it doesn't fades. I said: Because its color
looks more like dust, when it begins to fades you beerly note the
difference! Again nothing really is special from aluminum step tiles
apart from the fact that it adds more beauty to your house! That is
all I know about it for now!!!

Then again, you can criticize stone coated roofing sheet for
But it is and will always be the best(at least for now). And I assure you, 1.2million cannot buy it
it is expensive to a fault, that is why you don't see them on every roof!!!!
Yoruba say: " Obe ton Dun, Owo lo pa!" _{no mind my yoruba}
as in Soup wey sweet, na money kill am!

Stone coated aluminum is the best in town and it is very much common around Ikoyi, island and most
of this big places here in lagos and Abuja etc. It is very durable. Unlike aluminum, it doesn't assurb heat
when it rains heavily, it doesn't makes noice. Stone coated is the latest in the roofing business. And it has
prove to be the best.
But above all, it is very beeeeeeuuuutttiiiiifuuuuuuu

beef!

@ Kem4
one of the best aluminum to use is the brown ones.
Because it hardly changes color. Those very flashy ones
will change color in no time and it will be very obvious.
You know brown looks a bit more like dust?
So when it changes color it show almost no difference.
For the other colors like green, red, blue etc
forget them. Brown or the other ones that looks like ash
is always advice-able

@Kem4,

I am very glad you have a mind like mine!
You know they say; "Great Minds Think Alike"

For me, I will say Leave the roof! Aluminum steptiles roofing sheet
is very okay!!!! But for the fence designs, please remove them.
They ain't worth nothing. Also, please change the doors of your house
all to security doors. It is a lot more safer, better and even more beautiful!!!

hi

Gobi38:
Am alone - correct me if am wrong - aluminum step tile has exact design like your stone step tile (the wavy pattern). The only different is that yours is made from stone. My project is currently at the roofing stage and I was advice to use aluminum step tile because of the aesthetic design it adds to the house but am not on ground and not quite familiar with the design .

Yes you are a right, just that the stone step tiles waves is more obvious and is even more beautiful than that of aluminum step tiles and unlike aluminum step tiles, it come is smaller pieces and requires a lot more effort to fix.
but aluminum step tiles i okay oo. You can use it. It is even better than normal aluminum roofing.

!@ all Aluminum roofing sheet is very gud!
if I am building a house for rent, I will use aluminum!
I don't think a house should just be built anyhow!
I believe it should be built in a way it will look very presentable
and okay!

But if we think the roof should just be there to protect rain, why done we use trampoline to cover our house after the wood work?
or nylon? It sure will protect us from rain too! Or say we use zinc!

You no holy pass my broda!!! I no talk to you. Leave me make I do my thing!!!!
Nobody here be baby! Everybody get their likes and dislikes. They can make their choice.
Now A/C Dey and Na so Fan Dey! If I buy a/c now you go tell me say so ppl wey no get money
to buy a/c make the no put anything for their house!
If I die tonight, I go leave again? make i dey make money and more money con still dey live
like poor man? Abeg, no terisi me again
Thank you for your understanding
Peace!!!!

olubuffett:
While stone step tiles is good, hope his neighbor won't plant a mango tree stretching over is roof.    

Olubuffett, I only come here to share some experience so that people can learn from it. . . .
I no come here come criticize(at least, not anymore!)
The house wey I dey build, NA MY HOUSE!!! I NO DEY BUILD AM FOR ANYBODY
I DEY DO FOR MYSELF WETIN I THINK SAY BEST FOR ME!!! OR SHEY NA CRIME
FOR PERSON TO GET PASSION FOR QUALITY & FOR PERSON TO GET TASTE
DIFFERENT PEOPLE DEY OPEN THIS THREAD EVERYDAY, SOME FIT GBADU MY STYLE
WHY SOME FIT FEEL SAY NA WASTE OF MONEY!!!!
SOME ARE RICH, SOME ARE SUPPER RICH!!!!
SO NOW I GO PUT ROOF FOR MY HOUSE ORNA GO STILL TALK?
OKAY, COME COMOT AM MAKE YOU PUT ALUMINUN    

coss75:
what is the life span of your roof over that of aluminum,

@ Spyder, Abeg no start this thing again. I no want problem abeg.
Na coss75 nai ask me say which one is better compared to aluminum.
When I post my roof, I no talk about the quality or anything. I just post
am and give the price. So no con dey give me names for here ABEG!!!

spyder880:
Ha! Am alone is really back with a bang.
Here we go again, talking about which materials we think are better, but once again, I will add that this is a matter of choice, so that those of us who cannot afford N1.6m will not roof their house. Please go on and use aluminium tiles if you think thats what you can afford. Zink is even good and has been known to last for 100 years.
Am not saying stone step tiles is not very good, but lets not make it sound as if people has been living in inferior houses just because they used aluminium. And going by the dynamic industry we operate in naija, stone step tiles will become 'old fashioned' in a few months time.

Ha!!! Stone step tiles will become old fashioned in few months times?
I laff is Swahili! I don talk am before; "cut your coat according to your cloth"
I no say aluminum dey inferior. I no ever talk anything like that! No put words for my
mouth. For now oo, bros, stone steptiles is the best. It can last over 200years if you
want. the zinc you are talking about cannot even last 5years before it loose quality and start to rust.
It may still prevent rain, but it is already as dead as a dead-tree that can still stand.
you don see the stone coated roofing sheet, go bring the aluminum roof come wey fit beat am for
beauty or quality!!! And incase you know know, I give aluminum 7year, e go don OVER WASH!!!!
this one dey over 25yrs and e still stand campe! same color, same everything!!!!
It is the latest roofing in town. And make I use ur own word against you
'Na the person wey no fit buy coat nai go talk say coat dey scratch am for body!'
I rest my case!!

Bros Spyder, I think everything should be included! Yes, I know they varies from location to location, but so do the cost of Lands and the prices of materials does. Also, you will agree with me that I cannot roof that house if I don't pay these omonile their roofing fees! I believe people should be told the truth. Building is not an easy thing(maybe it just me). Let us try to make it as easy as it can be, not making it looks easier than it is and letting people run into to with thoughts like it is so easy! And at the end of the day, they gets stucked!

kuntash:
Spyder, for u to cost it @ 10-11million and the owner says he has spent 13m or so, I think its a fair deal, cos I tried challenge your cost when I wanted to start my foundation, I realized I no near u @ all even though I was there thru out and monitored it all thru,

Note that there are some tiles that are quite expensive, like those granite tiles, the sitting room alone could cost over a million just to fix such tiles,

You can see Kuntash testimony above!!!!
I think he did his best, but maybe because of his location,
he cannot beat your price!

Anyways, the cost of land is not included in the above!!!
the gutter roof and that roofing sheet cost around 2.7million of that money
the only thing I will exclude here is the accessories for the toilet since it is not
in yet in the above house!!! and that is 600k(the pipping money is left because
they have done the plumping work).
And so far I have used over 300 bags of cement
Net Total: 5,634,870.00