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marcolceno:
All these anti Biden people. Always making big deal from nothing. Last week he fell down. Last year he fell from bicycle today he called prime minister president. Nah no dey tayah? Pro Trump people. Shoo.....

The koko be say Biden go still win.

panafrican:
They need to be mindful because civil wars start most of the time with one leader thinking he is being wronged.

Lol, nothing is going to happen. His supporters can do a January 6th again though the FBI is ready for them.

Myer:
It's rightly in court. Let's allow the courts and teibunals carry out and perform their due diligence and follow due process.
I doubt it will lead to the annulment of the election. However, if fraud is discovered, the culprits should be penalised and an improvement should be invested in to curtail such recurrence.

If USA could produce one of the most glaringly fraudulent electoral process that ousted Donald Trump after nearly 250 years of democracy, then we should know that we are improving and will eventually get as perfect as possible eventually. That's why President Biden lacks the locus standi challenge any country's electoral process.

But while the court process is on course, let's also channel our resources to support the incumbent and pray God directs our course and cause as a Nation, His people. Nigeria is really special to God, I dare say we are as special as Israel to God.

As a Believer/Christian, the Word of God is our own President and Government, who ever is occupying the physical space of president or government are simply God's instruments whom he can move to do His will.

We are commanded and encouraged to Honour the King/Leader because it is God who chooses them.
Romans 13 says it all. Please read it with an open heart, and not a hardened heart. God help us.

Jesus Christ is our role model, not our pastors or parents or mentors or benefactors or influencers or politicians. Even though Jesus Christ was greater than King Herod and Pontious Pilate, He gave them their due honor and focused on His own business.

Paul and Peter are our role models, they honored their Kings. Even though the carried the Anointing to rain down fire and destroy their kingdoms.

We really need to know how God operates, He honors principles, one of which is the place snd people of authority. Whether or not we like the leaders, we have to honor their office and go about our agreement or disagreement with them with dignity.

Trump lost the election and it was not a fraudulent process. Stop deceiving yourself.

koboko69:
Dems will control all arms of the government in 2024 minus the conservative supreme court.

The Conservative Supreme Court is just for now particularly if Clarence Thomas wife Ginni Thomas contributions in January 6th was not a small one. It could possibly force her husband to resign the two of them are not clear yet and if he does resign or anything unexpected happens and Democrats control the Senate and White House they will flip it from a 6-3 Conservative majority to a 5-4 Conservative majority at least.
This is why Ron Desantis who is running for president said some weeks ago that the next two Presidential terms could see a replacement to two of the Conservatives who are oldest on the Bench because of their age. Even Sotomayor could be replaced too so yes, elections matter and Democrats see the opportunity.

For now though the Conservative Supreme Court will continue to do damage.

koboko69:
Trump finished himself! He is running because he knows there are people like you.

He finished himself truly and he is running because he wants to avoid criminal prosecutions.

Depriest2020:
The establishment really wanna keep Trump down, they don't want him close to power again.

Trump was never going to beat Biden in a rematch.
Also Trump should stop committing criminal acts so that the so called"establishment" don't have anything to use against him.

Jokerman:
Trump will still prevail.

He is done for.

Chibuezem:
Christains don't indoctrinate or shove down their beliefs on people ... We preach what we've encountered by submitting our lives to Jesus Christ, if you believe in it and accept to follow we embrace you. There's no hidden agenda or brainwashing behind it. Nobody is forcing anyone to follow our beliefs once you reject our belief we don't cancel you rather we still pray that you believe and continue to love you because our master says we should love our enemies . We continue to show you love.... If America wants to ban the Bible from schools because of violence then books on history with violence like world war 2 novels, movies should be banned.

Lolz. You have not met American Conservative White Christians then, this is not the Christianity they preach and those ones have an hidden agenda. The topic is based in America so I am only reacting based on the current antics of those intolerant people.

Chibuezem:
lol we will continue to preach to your children the word of God anywhere we find them... In the bus, in schools, in hospitals, in the markets... Banning the Bible can't stop Christianity..... Many have tried and failed.

But when they want to talk about LGBTQ you draw the line. Is it not the same thing as indoctrination?
I have nothing against religion your comment made me realise how inconsistent these American conservatives are. Indoctrinating kids with religion is not totally different from LGBTQ they hate because they are both shoving their beliefs/ideas down everybody's throats.

cococandy:
If only they were really trying to protect kids though.it’s the hypocrisy for me. These law makers “trying to protect kids” have in their chambers child sex offenders who they wine and dine with. Who they campaign for. Their zombies chanting protect the kids go to the polls and vote for domestic abusers and child sex offenders.
It’s has never been anything but how to protect white supremacy. The minorities who vote for them align themselves with them because of homophobia and misogyny/misogynoir.

Exactly and the Black people that support these people are clowns honestly. Imagine a Black man against what "woke" actually means. Conservatives are aiming to turn it into something else to cover their racism and other rights of people they don't like.

Also what about the guns? How does protecting the kids not include heavily restricting guns which are the leading cause of death in America? Those people are so terrible.

cococandy:
Let’s be clear. Porn was never accessible to kids at school. This is the language they use to make it seem as if some inappropriate thing was sanctioned and being taught to kids in school.

What they banned was any teaching that made it so kids are more aware and accepting of other kids from other races, family structures and religions. It’s the classic “give a dog a band name so you can hang it” situation going on here. But the summary is that it’s white supremacy trying to hold onto power using religion as they always have.

They even started false teachings saying that slavery was a choice and black slaves were treated like family. They are banning accurate historical teachings that portray their forefathers as the true monsters they were and hoping they can keep their kids on the path to upholding white supremacy

In summary, they are White Conservatives who are scared of being the minority groups in the West so these are part of their efforts to strike back. It is all coordinated by Right-wing billionaire elites too, that's why they wanted Roe gone because there is this propaganda that the White race is being reduced through abortions, they are attacking LGBTQ people for fear of their population and are also hostile to immigrants. I cannot in my right senses support such platforms filled with hate and wanting to control people's lives from a false sense of superiority.

nairalanda1:
I'm a Christian myself, and i think the laws were made out of a misguided attempt to protect children from sometimes extreme material that mutated into a witch hunting and book burning exercise

Indeed one thing i hate hearing is 'We must protect the children ' because while that is true ( there is a reason why we have ratings systems) taken to an extreme it can lead to things like the above.

Banning books always backfires. Whoever does it

If they care about protecting the children they should start with heavily regulating guns.
Guns are one of the leading causes of death for American children.

cococandy:
They didn’t think far ahead enough. As they usually don’t. In their eagerness to oppress those who don’t believe in the Bible, they ended up passing a law that oppresses themselves too.
That’s why there’s nothing better than live and let live. Even the Bible says it. US conservatives want to be the Taliban so badly

Since Trump came into power and Conservatives control 2/3 of the Supreme Court the Talibangelicals in America have amplified their voices. They came for Roe v Wade last year, SCOTUS may reduce LGBTQ rights in the 303 opinion they will release this month. They are more louder than ever because someone like Trump came to power and amplified their voices. The only good thing about the Trump presidency was that Democrats started to take elections seriously and realise that the Supreme Court is a political branch of government. I am glad younger generation of Americans like genZ don't share the same bigoted views like these hateful conservatives and may Trump or DeSantis not win in 2024.

Maynmann:
No, most europeans are converting to islam.

“Uncontrolled birth rate” lol, in America, there are more abortions than birth rate.

Based on which data is the above assertion true?

nairalanda1:
We could ban a lot of literature and fairy tales too.

Like Rapunzel and Cinderella which includes depictons of child abuse and brutality.

And don't get me started on Pinocchio.

Like i said, I don't believe in banning any book. And the bible should be taught in the church and if a.school makes provision for religious classes that involve it.

P.s I.learned about worldwar 1 and 2 in primary 6 as well as the civil.war. I also did some extra.reading too. Yes including deth.

I agree with this, the book banning issue is a very slippery slope and quite stupid. Their aim is to attack the black and LGBTQ community but they are so dumb to know that there could be repercussions such as this one.

Goalnaldo:
Overwokeness and liberalism would finally collapse americans. They founding fathers were christians.

American founding fathers stated that America was not a Christian nation and established the first amendment's establishment clause which separates the Church from the state.

Read the article before talking about woke and liberalism. It is conservatives that are banning books and the laws are coming back to bite them.

I don't understand the reason why American conservatives are banning books. It is based on hate and it has come back to bite them.

gaddafe:
It's gradually happening. I told someone something like this last year December. I said the contents of the holy books are not suitable for kids. I said civilisation will soon take us to a stage where kids are not allowed to read the holy books until they attain certain age. Are we not gradually moving towards there now?

Eunoiaa:
Seee, lol.

This topic is HIGHLY subjective, so it'll all just boil down to our differing opinions - and perhaps going back and forth.

The fact that it's a "taught" thing in my opinion is the first foul.

I understand that we learn other things in our lives, sure. We're born tabula rasa, and we acquire values and social norms and kindness, a sense of justice and such. Even years ago, I was not opened to the idea of different sexualities. I learnt to be tolerant and accepting, even if I don't understand it or it has nothing to do with my life. I also learnt to stop insulting people because they can easily beat me up (😂. I tried to be like that on NL in the beginning, but the mad people here outweigh the normalz. They will always provoke, and come for you first).

So I get how the "stuff" that are considered feminine may be taught in that respect, but note that, all the things I listed were not packaged as a COURSE, and being sold to people.

While there are universal stuff that make a relationship work and these could be taught in a relationship seminar/marriage coaching (I mean, after all, we take career courses to elevate our social standing, and emotional intelligence/crises management classes for HR personnel), these things are never presented as a feminine/masculine dichotomy. You don't learn to manage conflict because you're a man, but because you're a leader. You learn emotional intelligence and all that not because you're a woman, but because you want to improve your interpersonal skills and productivity level.

All of those 'feminine and masculine' qualities I can see in that chart up there are definitely admirable and worthy of being imbibed. Now when a woman inculcate those and truly see a change in her life, is it because it's a 'feminine' trait or a positive trait?

It's just like telling someone- be soft-spoken, listen attentively, be present, don't be quick to anger (many of which the Bible generally prescribe) and they actually bring a true change to one's quality of living, and you go away thinking, 'oh, it worked because it's femininity and it's fine-tuned to my nature.'

I don't know any normal woman who wouldn't want a man who is gentle and speaks softly to her😄. Or who is compassionate, considerate, kind, and vulnerable to her.

There is nothing we're doing today that our "ancestors" have not done.

Like primadonna O alluded, there is nothing new under the sun. Everything idea, principles and all are being recycled. We did not come up with these concepts of love, courtship, gender roles, etc. So if these femininity/masculinity stuff are really the DNA of intersexual relations, why do we keep 'losing' them? Our own parents subscribed to these things, the same way their parents subscribed to it, the same their parents before their parents did.

If the great, great, great-grandfather of a lineage was a masculine man married to a feminine woman in a successful marriage, they will give birth to more masculine boys and feminine girls, no? Who should in turn get married to their complimentary parts and produced more masculine and feminine children. My point is, at what point was that "perfect" blueprint lost? People in the past have been there and done that. I don't see how their relationships fared better than ours o, because ills like prostitution, rape, paternity fraud, "cheating" were rampant then o. Our mothers just learnt to shut up and lived with them. If you say our parents did not follow the masculine/feminine outline as they should, please, who did they learn from?

And many of them taught girls our generations too, who are still continuing it.

So nobody, absolutely nobody has the sole claim to their (own form of) femininity being the standard.

You say a woman should let a man lead, alright. A woman picked that and let a jobless man lead. She submits her salary to him, put his name on her properties, pass the ATM card to him under the table and he beat her, and goes frolicking with young girls (see the IG story), and you say that is not femininity?

If submissiveness is a feminine expression that activates the masculinity in a man, why did Osinachi's case and the story above turn out wrong?

You cannot say playing femininity unlocks the masculinity in a man and then say some men are a man-child who manhandle the feminine energy of a woman. So that means, be feminine all you want, it'll never make some men treat you right. But femininity is SUPPOSED to make him treat you right, right? So who is at fault? You see how this is subtly pushing the blame on the woman to be thinking, "oh, perhaps I am not doing this femininity thing, right?" When it is the man with a shitty behaviour.

It is either femininity activates masculinity, no exception—or it is not a fool-proof technique.


And then there's the transgender angle.

Act like a woman, talk like a woman, dress like a woman, be a woman. If femininity can be learnt, and if that's what makes us women, why can a male not learn those traits and declare himself a woman?

That's what the transwomen* I've come across online actually do. They rely on 'feminine stereotypes' to 'present as a woman'

If a transgender presenting as a woman sound absurd to you, then it should sound absurd to you, too, to suggest to women to present as a woman.

I have never subscribed to gender roles in a conservative sense, and I am still not fùcking with it in a liberal sense.

Some transgenders also say they feel like a woman and have a "lady's brain", and if as a believer in femininity, you disagree with this, why? How can you disprove this since you also believe women and men are fundamentally different, and there's a way to feel like a woman? We should not simply call them feminine men, we should call them women since there's a rules and guidelines on being a woman, no?

If you don't believe that a man can become a woman by doing things women do, then that means doing those things are NOT what makes us women. We're women because we're the female sex. End of.

I'll end with this screenshot from ulxma below- if it has to be taught it's not natural, so we're not going against some grave natural stuff.

Yes, a feminine man would be the least desired because most women have been brought up to desire a 'manly' man; ditto for a masculine woman.

So yeah, while problems might actually arise from men and women not playing the roles expected of them, it is not because of biology but because of the social consequences. It's just a circular logic. I will treat a feminine woman right and maltreat a masculine women, so women are feminine and the man treats them right because of it's what he's come to expect and to deliver.

It is only when we face ourselves individually that we begin to see that we cannot conform to these thugs 100% of the time.

cc; Bukatyne

@bold, this is similar to what I just gave in my response to folake4u. This is what Germaine Greer warned about. Lol you have a solid argument.

cococandy:
What’s a high flyer? I don’t want to assume I know what you mean by that to avoid misinterpretation.

But on the topic of femininity, there’s this new internet wave of what it means to be feminine where young girls are being led to believe that being feminine means you must be soft, demure and in deference to men. Literally what our foremothers fought against years ago is being repackaged and sold to young women as the new standard of femininity.

Hashtag soft feminine life.

Usually they use it when they are displaying themselves in what they assume to be a luxurious lifestyle provided by a man and in which they don’t really have to do anything except to be young and beautiful, cater to the man, allow him his excesses and be apologetic for their existence as long as he holds up his own end of the deal which is to give them money. Which is great if that’s a well informed choice they are making for themselves seeing as that would no longer be applicable as soon the lady in question turns 45-50 years old. Thus setting in resentment later in life.

Personally I believe femininity is subjective and no two women can be feminine in the same exact way. There are so many varieties of women. Quiet, soft spoken, strong, matronly, demure, quick witted and brave. Each person will display their femininity based on their personality and style. There are women who are born leaders even when amongst men. But because of traditional expectations that they defer to men, their leadership qualities are wasted on the alter catering to men’s “natural authority”. Which can lead to frustration.

Just be yourself. Do what makes you happy. If a woman has to put up an act to appear more feminine and more appealing according to what is expected of her as female, then that’s not her brand of femininity.

I’ll add more when I get a clear meaning of what high flyer refers to. Thank you for the topic of the day

Words on marble. I admire your intellectual submissions.

Eunoiaa:
Yes. It's me, your Royal Highness.

It's really been a long while.

Na community service I dey do for this account for the meantime jare.

Remain blessed.

folake4u:
Good evening ladies and happy new month 💋 😘 😗

I saw this Instagram post and decided to bring here for our discussion. What do you think? Especially for the writeup on the body of the post on IG?

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cs6lbidIvki/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

Take away questions:
1. What do you understand by a lady being feminine or what I usually call (Queen and Princess state of mind here on NL)

2. Do you think a woman can be a high flyer and still retain her femininity

3. If yes to 2, how?

4. If no to 2, do you believe a woman can have a successful functional relationship without it?

5. Any other thoughts around the topic.

Sorry for the late response, that is the opinion of the lady and not necessarily a fact for everyone else. When people focus on the femininity of women it enhances the idea that trans women can be women (no prejudice against transpeople, but this Christian woman will not believe that transwomen are women so she is shooting herself on the foot) since all it takes to be a woman is to act feminine. Also every human being has the masculine and feminine side or energy so attributing womanhood to feminity alone makes no sense because it means women should suppress their masculine side. Who told people that someone must be masculine or feminine alone? What on earth is wrong with embracing what works for you. For your questions.

1). What I understand by a lady being feminine in the context of religious people is simply being a doormat, walkover, someone that should be subsevient and not in anyway outspoken.

2). I believe so, the two can work together and I think we should correct the notion that masculinity alone is what is responsible for making one a highflyer. Feminine energies such as intuition, creativity and sensitivity are good for business and corporate affairs and even politics and these are high flying positions.

3). I believe I have explained this in 2.
4).I just want to chip in something here both parties should in my view embrace both sides I cannot be with a man who is not sensitive, nurturing,vulnerable, compassionate and empathic to feelings and those around him. Same way I will be practical, purpose driven, disciplined and much more(masculine energy) towards him. We grow and develop this way because we are striving to be good. Although not every feminine or masculine energy should be embraced but they can work together.
5). My view on the topic is in my opening comment also its a non-coherent topic it makes no actual sense, not even based on data or even biblical backing.

bukatyne:
By now, there should have been changes to it.

Even if anyone is to contact the deadbeat father or his family, it should be the girl's mother.

Interestingly, if it were the son getting married, the father is not needed enough to start hunting for him. (At least in Yoruba land)

There would be no changes because it benefits men. It is their get-out-of-responsibility-free card.

The OP in my view is in no position to contact the biological father. It is illogical to do this and so I agree that it should be the mother of the girl and by reasons best known to her if she doesn't want to do it the OP should respect it he has no standing on this issue.

If I were the deadbeat father shame go catch me and you would not even see me there I will just be minding my business but men unfortunately are allowed to be shameless in this society.

bukatyne:
It is things like this that give men the guts to mess up, be deadbeat dads and be assured that someone is coming to look for them tomorrow.

I have been waiting for this comment.

It's the patriarchal culture.

Dtruthspeaker:
It is actually not your fuc.king and unfucking business.

Your business is with the lady and the people who rule her (her family)

The burden is on her father to find how he can enter in if he wants.

But this shit is not your business.

You have said it all.

completey:
I experienced same with my 5years old son. He will say that this time, I should not let him go o. That the last time he came, I let him go that's is why he left. But because he loves me, that's why he came back to me.

It is true that we lost a son 13years ago, he died the day I said I am tired of his constant sickness.

My son now, will be telling his 10 years old sister. That I am older than you o, just that you won't understand.

He will make sure he is first to make a choice if you share anything for them and ask them to choose.

And so many things one dare not say out because people will not believe you. He will describe the place where he died. Meanwhile, I have not visited that area since he died.

Wow

Death Penalty?
That country is very unserious.

AfonjaPriest:
The beggar cum scammer is here.
You should go to your church or mosque to beg and stop using different monikers on NAIRALAND to swindle people.
You have used over 50 monikers to beg. If you are genuine, you should have been known with one moniker. Using many is a clear indication you are a fraud.
The way I see it, you'll soon get deliverance from the Devil. Keep thinking you are deceiving people. There is nothing hidden that will not be revealed; covered that will not be opened.
The great day of your revelation is at hand. Be expectant, because surely it will come.

Don't mind the silly account number using different cuck and bull stories to deceive people here. It's because of things like this that is why some people don't help on nairaland.

folake4u:
Mango, believe me, it's so delicious. The wheat bread has to be fresh one oh.

I got tired of jam at a point in time sha. But I never got tired of peanut butter.

Maybe I will get jam again.

She is even Mag

Eunoiaa, wetin happen to our account na why you dey use this one?

It's been a long time my Queen.

Eunoiaa:


I felt this.

Confirm

bentenny:
I dont care what sanctimonious people say but you see sexual compatibility...Its very very very 'importanter'
There are guys who will instantly click sexually with OP's wifey without any fuss!

The fun part of this is watching Trumpolini and DeSaster tear each other apart and splitting the GQP.

There was even technical glitch on the Space lol.
He has already failed before beginning

Obrigardo:
Deathsantis will be the Republican nominee for president. That's the new normal now.

The fascist is spending $200m campaign war chest and every republiqan media is lining up behind him.
Criminal trump can't survive Jack Smith coming Indictments and all he has is $8 blue check maga cultists and conspiracy theorists on twitter and his failing truth social under SEC investigation.

But President Biden will still defeat the fascist deathsantis.

Trump will prefer that Biden wins over DeSaster

Anyway Democrats must vote, if they vote Republicans will not smell the White House.
This is Biden's election to lose.