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I'm sorry for this late reply. Let me just go straight to the points

Captain001:
You have well spoken. I asked you this question because in your topic you put the word HOLINESS in quotes. I have a revelational knowledge that the "modern day" hyper-grace has become the devil's most potent tool that has kept many supposed children of the kingdom in self delusion and deceit.

My sister(as your profile depicts), our problem in the practice of Grace is the inability to separate the flesh from the spirit. Man is a spirit, having a soul and dwelling in a body(temple).

On redemption the spirit is cleansed and renewed by the blood of Christ; but the flesh still remains flesh that's why if you were crippled before salvation, you still remain so there after till a healing miracle happens.

It is after salvation that the war between the spirit and the flesh begins. Apostle Paul the pioneer of Grace teaching realised this and knew he needed to do something by himself and not wait for grace
1 Corinthians 9:27 But I(spirit) keep under my body(flesh), and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway. Words in bracket are mine.

Hey!! You can do better than this right! Paul extensively talked about the war between his old man and his new man in Romans 7 He said if he wanted to do the right thing he found another law in his members walking against him and causing him to do those things he did not want to do.

How can you think you can do anything without grace! Are you a better man than Paul? Paul said He can do all things through Christ who strengthens me Phillipians 4:13. Who gives Paul strength? Christ. In how many things? In all things.

Why then do you say we should abandon grace and subject our bodies ourselves. That would be walking IN the flesh. Because Grace is giving when we walk in the Spirit by faith.

After explaining the war in him, Paul exclaimed in Romans 7:24,25 O wretched man that I am! Who shall deliver me from the body of this death.
I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord.So then with the mind I serve the law of Christ, but with the flesh the law of sins

You are a wretched man. I am a wretched woman. It is is only God through Jesus that can save us from ourselves.

We cant help God do this. It is solely the work of God. By grace through faith.

So my dear sister it our duty to discipline the flesh not the duty of Grace. Eph 4:22 that YE put off concerning the former conversation the Old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts.

You see the instruction? YE(me and you) put off the old man

Gal 5:17 For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; and these are contrary to one another, so that you do not do the things that you wish. 18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.

19 Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery,[a] fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, 20 idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, 21 envy, murders,[b] drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law. 24 And those who are Christ’s have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. 25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.

A lot to say dear sister but I must stop here for now.

The Lord be with and strengthen you in your resolve to live for Christ. I Pray for you may your expectations never be cut off and your desires granted. The Lord cause his
countenance to shine upon you and give you
peace. Above all; may you never miss heaven

Thank you I wrote this with a heavy heart and a lot of sighing in me. My heart desire is that you come to understand these things I have said. I pray God reveals them to you

An2elect2:
It has been discussed here severally and so many threads created for it.

Here are two links :

[url] https://www.nairaland.com/687754/truth-pastor-not-tell-tithes[/url]
https://www.nairaland.com/3561422/why-pastors-prefer-malachi-deuteronomy

MuttleyLaff:
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An2elect2 is gung-ho
On fire & holding no prisoners

mikolo80:
please explain

Captain001:
So you dey here? Been waiting for your reaction to my reply.