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Stewie101:Do you believe the Bible? |
ellbreziy:No it's not. Catholics adopted pagan religions. It's no wonder like idolaters they must pray to/through a woman/goddess and "dead people". They have no scriptural backing, not even one, no where whether in the old or new. They are apostates and the Bible has given clear warning to stay away from such |
Stewie101:Read my previous posts. You have to understand every step of this knowledge . One step at a time, leading to another. If you have understood that our wills are bound to sin then I'll continue, if you want to overlook this, I'm sorry I have to leave you here |
Stewie101:I told you already. Free will to make divine decisions is an illusion |
Stewie101:The criterion is our sinful nature we inherited from Adam because of his disobedience. Romans5:19 For just as through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous. Psalm 51:2 I have been evil from the day I was born; from the time I was conceived, I have been sinful. Ephesians 2:1 As for you, you were dead in your transgressions and sins, These are examples that show men are born dead in sin and incapable of doing good such as choosing God. This was as a result of the fall of our first parents. If that's the case, it follows that all men deserve to perish in hell since their choice is always evil and their ways not good or up to God's righteous standard. So if any man will be saved it has to be by something outside of himself |
Christianity does not teach free will to make divine decisions. It's not in the Bible and our fathers in the faith termed is as a damnable heresy. Do not confuse the age of apostasy or mass error for true Christianity. BTW, God is just and right to send everyone to their deserving place. |
Well I will take him or them serious when they take the Bible serious. So called churches today are made of fools and hypocrites who (in their hearts) think God can't see through their facade and appearance. They are so stupid to see that the reason they attract "worldlings" is because they are themselves "worldlings" too. |
Apart from Mr Suleman's scandal, his teachings are not scriptural. I can't see any resemblance with the "spirit" he has and the one the early apostles had. 1 John 4:1 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world But here is the problem Proverbs 1:7 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction. Honestly, Speak not in the ears of a fool: for he will despise the wisdom of thy words Proverbs 23:9 |
Wilgrea7:The mother churches are in the Bible can't find the Catholic "church" among them. When you see please alert me. |
smart024:"Mother church" should take the lead in worshipping in Spirit and in truth first before she starts begging others to overlook her sins and the blood in her hands |
smart024:You can't be serious if the "mother church" cannot take the lead in worshipping God in spirit and in truth |
smart024:But the Catholic "church" worships God in Mary and in "saints". |
It's funny the way people look at me every Sunday including my relatives . They assume I have departed from the faith but what do they know? And how wrong can they be! They can't wrap around their heads why I am obsessed with God and study the scriptures in spite of not going anywhere on Sundays! What do they know? The difference between us is the grace of God. I was once like them too! I went to church like every one but who cared about God then? Not me, not them, not any of us. But God's hold of me has caused my hold of Him. Everytime I study the Bible, I do not see any resemblance between the churches in it and the churches around me. They differ on all sides, on everything! What will I learn from these gatherings that differ from the one found upon my Lord. I wont dare compromise (to please men) for what possibly can I get from it if not poison for my soul.
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LETTER TO A DEAR SISTER ON ‘GOING TO CHURCH’ Here is an excerpt from a letter to a Sister who wrote to me telling me that the voice of God was convicting her to ‘GET OUT’ of a compromised Church which she was attending – Dear Sister, the nominal Christian is raised from his childhood with the idea that come Sunday he needs to ‘go to Church’! And this, without even understanding what ‘the church’ actually means! The ‘Church’ is not a building with a steeple on the top, nor is it a group of religious folks who attest to a creed, and have learnt to sing a few hymns and spiritual songs! The Greek word used in the Bible for the Church is ‘Ecclesia’ which just simply means ‘called out ones’! Individuals sovereignly chosen and ‘called out’ by God the Father, supernaturally made alive by the Holy Spirit and have been made partakers of the mystical body of Christ! So you cannot in any real sense ‘go to Church’ because if you are truly saved, you are part of the Church! Oh but doesn’t the Scripture say, “Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching. [Heb 10:25] It sure does! But notice, it is the assembling of “OURSELVES”! Who are those who constitute the “ourselves” which the Apostle speaks of? Well, it is those to whom the epistle is written to in the first place - “Holy brethren, partakers of the heavenly calling” [Heb 3:1] Hebrews 10:25 is not admonishing the Christian to go every Sunday and sit amongst a bunch of religious goats who have a ‘form of godliness but deny the power thereof’! The Apostle’s counsel concerning such is “from such TURN AWAY”! [2Tim 3:5] Sister, please understand that I am not against God's children having a desire to find a true Church to fellowship with. But such Churches are VERY FEW in the world today and usually meet in very small numbers either in their homes or a rented shed. If God leads you to such a Church then you can praise God for it! If not, better to sit at home and worship God than to 'attend' a Church which has a form of religion without the power thereof. Even at this moment I personally know God's precious children both in the USA and England who are without an official Church where they can attend! And the reason is not far to seek, Sister! You see, we are living in a day when God's sheep are an 'endangered species'! Which means, there aren't many of them left! You have more chances of running into a 'Tasmanian Wolf' in Australia than running into a true child of God in a large shopping mall or train station! In Psalm 83:3 the Psalmist refers to the Lord’s people as “Thy hidden ones”. And I believe that that is a good description of God’s people in the day that we are now living in. First of all I guess you will agree that a Church is not a BUILDING. It is a collection of believers. How many believers does it take to constitute a Church? JUST TWO! The Lord said “where TWO or three are gathered together in My Name there am I in the midst of them”! I guess the Lord had a reason for limiting the number to two or three, because being the omniscient One He knew that the day would come (has come!) when in most parts of the world only two or three would come together in His Name. Yes, if we can find other believers who love the truth and holiness and are against all that is erroneous like Free-Willism, Roman Catholicism, Christmas, and the Prosperity Gospel etc, then it will be our joy to join with such believers and break bread. But I speak from 27 years of personal experience that such Churches are one in a thousand and they usually meet in homes. The Master called His sheep ‘little-flock’ (Lk 12:32) because compared to the multitudes that throng the nominal churches, they are VERY SMALL in number. If a true child of God is yet a member of one of these HUGE ‘churches’, it will not be long before the Spirit opens his eyes to the fact that he is sitting amongst goats. In our day the Lord’s true sheep who love the truth are so few in number that for a preacher to be a FULLTIME SALARIED MINISTER he has to necessarily be an amuser of goats and an entertainer of religious hypocrites. Trust me, Sister; I do not say this lightly. I know what I am saying. If a preacher has gathered enough members to support him fulltime and build him a church building then 99% of those who are part of his ‘Church’ have to NECESSARILY be religious goats! I am sorry but this fact I have seen through my own bitter experience! Incidentally, one does not have to ‘go to church’, or ‘go’ anywhere for that matter! If the Lord leads us to a group of true believers then great! We MUST make every effort to fellowship with them at every given opportunity and do our part to edify them. But remember this – if whichever group we have decided to be a part of is growing to a number where we have to purchase or rent a building for our gathering, then chances are that the ‘pastor’ or ‘elders’ there are not preaching the WHOLE truth! “Anything which is endured today in the religious world CANNOT be sound doctrine; anything which is approved of, well-attended, popular, is not sound ‘doctrine’. When God raises up His servant, equips him and sends him forth to preach, that servant will necessarily preach the WORD, and DENOUNCE all that is opposed to the world: hence his message is BOUND to be UNPOPULAR, in fact HATED by all who are not regenerated”. [A.W. Pink] My dear Sister, I preach separation from false churches as IMPERATIVE! Ever since I left the Apostate Churches and started out independently, the Lord has gradually shown me little by little that the existing Christendom of our day is IRREMEDIABLY APOSTATE. We are living in a day when ‘Christians’ have no regard for sound doctrine or a hunger for true holiness. Even most who prate about their orthodoxy in sound doctrine do not demand holiness from the flock entrusted to them. Most preachers in our day desire to have a ‘ministry’ to show the world what they have accomplished for Christ. But I know from EXPERIENCE that any preacher who faithfully preaches the WHOLE counsel of God, which means not just preaching the truth but exposing the lie (and the liars who masquerade in Jesus’ name), I believe such a preacher WILL be left WITHOUT A ‘MINISTRY’, for he will soon begin to see that the elect of God who sincerely seek to follow the Lamb by denying self, sin, and the world are only a mere HANDFUL. The Lord said “when the Son of man cometh shall He find faith upon the earth?” [Luk 18:8] Except for a few small groups of faithful disciples who gather in houses all over the world, THE WHOLE OF CHRISTENDOM WILL BE THOROUGHLY APOSTATE- which is why He says, “Come out of her, My people, lest you share in her sins and lest you receive of her plagues”. [Rev 18:4] But even if you cannot find an assembly of true believers to fellowship with, like I said earlier, there is no need to ‘go anywhere’ on Sunday! Just stay at home and spend the time reading God’s Word and in prayer! “Wherefore Jesus also, that he might sanctify the people with his own blood, suffered without the gate. Let us go forth therefore unto Him without (outside) the camp (of nominal Christianity), bearing his reproach. For here have we no continuing city, but we seek one to come”. [Hebrews 13:12-14] “Those who are “poor in spirit” have nothing in common with the self-satisfied Laodiceans. And how “distressed” in soul are they over the worldliness that has come in like a flood, over the crowds of unregenerate members, over the utter absence of any scriptural discipline? And what is to be the attitude and actions of God’s grieved children toward those having nothing more than a form of godliness? This - “FROM SUCH TURN AWAY” (2 Timothy 3:5). Identify yourself with Christ on the outside; walk ALONE WITH HIM”! [A.W. Pink] So basically that is my take on present day Christendom. The truly elect know what I am preaching is the truth. But even among the elect, methinks that there are those who do not want to make a complete break with the established religion. For they love the praise of men more than the praise of God! But they have their reward and I am not the one to judge them. Love _Michael Jeshurun |
onyenze123:If they were sheep, they would hear the Shepherd's voice. They have eyes but they can't see. Ears but still deaf. I weep for all of them for they do not know what awaits them. They have placed themselves under the curse of the Law and won't escape the wrath of God that is coming upon them. |
Lmao Op I beg you to disassociate Paul's gospel of grace from these modern day robbers'corrupted grace that denies people of everything including common sense. |
Lol big joke |
Splinz:With all due respect, you are the one not handling the truth rightly. You can't hold on to your false understanding of a scripture and when it is placed side by side with the other 99% we are left with contradiction! Look at these! [b]Romans 4:2 For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God Romans 3:28 For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from works of the Law. Romans 5:1 Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, Habakkuk 2:4 "Behold, as for the proud one, His soul is not right within him; But the righteous will live by his faith. Romans 1:17 For in it the righteousness of God is revealed from faith to faith; as it is written, "BUT THE RIGHTEOUS man SHALL LIVE BY FAITH." Romans 3:27 Where then is boasting? It is excluded By what kind of law? Of works? No, but by a law of faith. Romans 3:30-31 since indeed God who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through faith is one. Do we then nullify the Law through faith? May it never be! On the contrary, we establish the Law. 1 Corinthians 9:21 to those who are without law, as without law, though not being without the law of God but under the law of Christ, so that I might win those who are without law. Genesis 15:6 Then he believed in the LORD; and He reckoned it to him as righteousness. Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is credited as righteousness, Galatians 2:16 nevertheless knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the Law but through faith in Christ Jesus, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, so that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the Law; since by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified. Galatians 3:24 Therefore the Law has become our tutor to lead us to Christ, so that we may be justified by faith. Romans 3:23-24 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, being justified as a gift by His grace through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus; Romans 4:16 For this reason it is by faith, in order that it may be in accordance with grace, so that the promise will be guaranteed to all the descendants, not only to those who are of the Law, but also to those who are of the faith of Abraham, who is the father of us all, Romans 5:15-17 But the free gift is not like the transgression. For if by the transgression of the one the many died, much more did the grace of God and the gift by the grace of the one Man, Jesus Christ, abound to the many. The gift is not like that which came through the one who sinned; for on the one hand the judgment arose from one transgression resulting in condemnation, but on the other hand the free gift arose from many transgressions resulting in justification. For if by the transgression of the one, death reigned through the one, much more those who receive the abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness will reign in life through the One, Jesus Christ. Galatians 2:21 "I do not nullify the grace of God, for if righteousness comes through the Law, then Christ died needlessly." Hebrews 11:4 By faith Abel offered to God a better sacrifice than Cain, through which he obtained the testimony that he was righteous, God testifying about his gifts, and through faith, though he is dead, he still speaks. Philippians 3:9 and may be found in Him, not having a righteousness of my own derived from the Law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which comes from God on the basis of faith, Romans 5:1 Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, Hebrews 10:38 BUT MY RIGHTEOUS ONE SHALL LIVE BY FAITH; AND IF HE SHRINKS BACK, MY SOUL HAS NO PLEASURE IN HIM. Habakkuk 2:4 "Behold, as for the proud one, His soul is not right within him; But the righteous will live by his faith. [/b] You are the one not rightly dividing the word. James didn't say a man is justified before God by works. He couldn't have opposed the gospel of grace. It is you that is reading your understanding into scripture. This is what he said: James 2vs 21,22,23 "Was not Abraham our father justified by works. when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? See thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect. And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God and it was inputted unto him for righteousness, and he was called the friend of God Any one who has understood the gospel of free grace will see what James is saying here. He is saying our works have proven our faith. It has made it sure and true. And who needs to see works? Man or God? God looks at our hearts not our outward deeds. Hence apart from being justified before God, we also need to be justified before men through our works |
MistadeRegal:To God be the glory. That was my reply to someone who thinks like you too. You can check my threads! |
MistadeRegal:Yeah i do. I just showed you. They are they fruits/evidence of our faith in Christ. |
MistadeRegal:Scriptures are to be in harmony right? They can't contradict. From Genesis down to the apostles we are told that Abraham was made righteous by faith and the epistles have these almost on all pages confirming that men are made righteous by faith. So why is James saying men are justified by faith and works and not faith alone like the other scriptures? Are we dishonest men and women? If not let us face this squarely. No scripture contradicts another but when we come across one that seems to contradict ( because of our misunderstanding) we must interpret contextually. James started thus in 2:1 My brethren, have not the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory with respect of persons. Apart from stating that the faith of Jesus does not discriminate against persons, James is bringing to our notice something profound which many ignore which is that the faith we preach is alive and bears fruits. And one of the fruits it does not bear is discrimination. Did you see that? ![]() James is saying if you have the faith of Christ prove it through your works because even the devil believes that there is God. Anybody can claim they have faith but there is only one faith that bears fruits. That is the faith of Jesus, the faith we preach. If you claim to have the faith of Christ and it does not bear fruits/good works in you then your faith is not of Christ but a dead faith. Can this dead faith save a man? No Which faith saves? The faith that produces works. If it does not produce works or bears fruits that faith is not alive and cannot save. vs 14 What does it profit my brethren, though a man say he hath faith and hath no works? can faith save him? James is saying "in scriptural harmony" that how can a man say he has faith but yet we can't see goodworks or changes in him. It means that man has another faith which cannot save. This faith is a dead one. vs 17 Even so faith if it hath no works, is dead, being alone. See this! Remember. Ephesians 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them UNTO GOOD WORKS. if we don't show good works then our faith is not rooted in Christ but is dead. Abraham's obedience to offer Isaac upon the altar was the evidence of his faith in God. He wasn't justified by works before God but before men. But he was justified by faith alone before God who searches the hearts unlike men who judge from the outside. Only God can see faith in us but men need to see our works to confirm our faith. Works fulfil(show perfectly) faith. This is like saying the bearing of fruits shows seeds beneath the ground we can't see. vs 21,22,23 Was not Abraham our father justified by works. when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? See thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect. And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God and it was inputted unto him for righteousness, and he was called the friend of God |
TheEminentLaity:Who knows if God will have mercy on my family like he did to me! That's my prayer everyday And God's sovereign will will prevail cos that's my delight |
TheEminentLaity:Jesus is within His right to save just one man in a whole generation. He is God and Has every prerogative right to save or not to save. And he has saved me who deserved wrath like everyone. Shouldn't I rejoice and praise His name forever!!! ![]() We were all taught our families are the most important but now I know God is |
TheEminentLaity:I hope you now realise I'm not a brainwashed fool anymore? |
MistadeRegal: |
I was born into a Catholic home, but now I am a Christian and my parents are still Catholic |
Wolves. Can darkness oppose darkness? Can bad produce good? |
BEST QUOTES AGAINST ‘FREE-WILL" “So then it is NOT of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but OF GOD that sheweth mercy”! [Romans 9:16] Free will is “corrupted nature’s deformed darling, the Pallas or beloved self-conception of darkened minds” – John Owen “The friends of free will are the enemies of free grace.” – John Trapp “This crown of free will is fallen from our head” and “If it be God’s purpose that saves then it is not free will.” – Thomas Watson “A man’s free will cannot cure him even of the toothache, or a sore finger; and yet he madly thinks it is in its power to cure his soul.” – Augustus Toplady. “Man is nothing; HE HATH A FREE WILL TO GO TO HELL, BUT NONE TO GO TO HEAVEN, till God worketh in him” and “you dishonour God by denying election. You plainly make salvation depend, not on God’s ‘free grace’ but on Man’s ‘free will.’” – George Whitefield “Free will has carried many souls to hell, but yet never a soul to heaven.” C.H. Spurgeon “I do not come into this pulpit hoping that perhaps somebody will of his own free will return to Christ. My hope lies in another quarter. I hope that my Master will lay hold of some of them and say, “You are mine, and you shall be mine. I claim you for myself.” My hope arises from the freeness of grace, and not from the freedom of the will.” C.H. Spurgeon “God’s character is maligned by every person who believes in free will.” – W.E. Best “This brought me out of the free-will fog, and truth shone in my heart like a comet … from that moment I waged war against free will.” – William Huntington “Are we then so corrupt that we are wholly incapable of doing any good, and inclined to all wickedness? INDEED WE ARE; except we are regenerated by the Spirit of God.” |
oaroloye:The doctrine you call heresy is biblical and the truth. The grace of God teaches us the opposite of what you claim we teach @bold |
What is "politically correct" in our religious world is the "If you will" gospel. But that's not what we preach, we preach the message of offence. And get accused of so many things. Some accuse us of heresy. Others say we turn God into a monstrous being who wants people in hell. Is it licentiousness we are not tied with, some ask why God still finds fault with men if He wills everything. Jesus was not politically correct. “And blessed is the one who is not offended by me.” ~Jesus (Matthew 11:6) |
I was born under the first "IF YOU WILL" religion but God changed everything and made me a product of the second "HIS FREE GRACE" by the new birth. Are you a Muslim, Jewish, Buddhist, Catholic, etc ? you must admit that you are not guaranteed eternal life with God except you do something... the burden of your salvation lies on you. And if this is possible, then the crown of glory must be worn by you, after all, is it not he that does the work that is credited? Will you labour so much and let another take the praise? Even in your daily lives you fight so much to take another man's glory, how much more your sweat? The all wise God knows all these and sees through all of us. This is what truly deserving is, if He must take all the glory then He must do all the work. If the all wise God did not seek your counsel in your first birth, why should He in your second? Can you reason with a non existing man? Or a dead man? |
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