₦airaland Forum

paj4love:
Let tell ourselves the truth, Ben Bruce is a minority so take his name off the list , Akniwumi Adeshina has no political value. South Easterners candidate is the best option for atiku

did osinbajo have any electoral value in 2015?

WetinConsignMe:
I don't understand how a person can be so dense. We are discussing people's traditional and historical disposition and culture in normal times and u r stuck on one Ojukwu and the extraordinary circumstance of war. How long have Igbos been in existence b4 Ojukwu and military rule? You are too blinded by tribalism for this type of discussion. Adios.

and who tols you the yorubas never had any assmbky. fir your nfo a yoruba king was advised by the ogboni. so what are you talking about? that the yotubas were only mumus who only took orders? and why could the consultative assembly stop ojukwu when he became rudderless and blantly foolish?

WetinConsignMe:
Generally speaking, traditionally, Yorubas are followers. They like having a leader and following him. Nothing wrong with that. Hence u have Oduduwa and other monarchs, Awo, Saraki, Tinubu, etc. Igbos have no such equivalents because Igbos are a republican people. Nothing wrong with that either.
You keep saying Okukwu. Ojukwu was a 30-year-old kid. Nobody followed Ojukwu into war. Igbos badly wanted war to avenge all the killings and because they wanted separation from Nigeria. Also, the war was authorized by a consultative assemly not an Awo or a monarch, as would have been the case with Yorubas. Different cultures.

ojukwu led u guys to slaughter. u were so stupid following him. the yorubas would never have followed awolowi that way. at least u heard tinubu say it was the people who rejected ambode and not him. for your information - "When the war became so bitter and the Biafran
weapons got finished, Ojukwu would load hundreds of
young igbo men into trailers and arm them with clubs and
machetes and dump them at the war front.
He would tell the young men that 'hausas' are fools.
'Kill them all'.
The Nigerian war tank will just lower its 50s and open
fire on 'unarmed' Biafran soldiers in the war"

WetinConsignMe:
Generally speaking, traditionally, Yorubas are followers. They like having a leader and following him. Nothing wrong with that. Hence u have Oduduwa and other monarchs, Awo, Saraki, Tinubu, etc. Igbos have no such equivalents because Igbos are a republican people. Nothing wrong with that either.
You keep saying Okukwu. Ojukwu was a 30-year-old kid. Nobody followed Ojukwu into war. Igbos badly wanted war to avenge all the killings and because they wanted separation from Nigeria. Also, the war was authorized by a consultative assemly not an Awo or a monarch, as would have been the case with Yorubas. Different cultures.

whats all these thrash about igbos been republicans? what does that mean? so u guys are rudderless follw no leader? no wonder u commit the highest number if heinous crimes in Nigeria. hey who did azikwe lead? Michael okpara? simply because there has been no recent replacement cis doesn't mean u guys don't follow any leader

WetinConsignMe:
Generally speaking, traditionally, Yorubas are followers. They like having a leader and following him. Nothing wrong with that. Hence u have Oduduwa and other monarchs, Awo, Saraki, Tinubu, etc. Igbos have no such equivalents because Igbos are a republican people. Nothing wrong with that either.
You keep saying Okukwu. Ojukwu was a 30-year-old kid. Nobody followed Ojukwu into war. Igbos badly wanted war to avenge all the killings and because they wanted separation from Nigeria. Also, the war was authorized by a consultative assemly not an Awo or a monarch, as would have been the case with Yorubas. Different cultures.

u know nothing about history. ojukwu declared the war by himself. herr was what he said


Now, therefore, I, Lieutenant-Colonel Chukwuemeka
Odumegwu Ojukwu, Military Governor of Eastern
Nigeria, by virtue of the authority, and pursuant to
the principles, recited above, do hereby solemnly
proclaim that the territory and region known as and
called Eastern Nigeria together with her continental
shelf and territorial waters shall henceforth be an
independent sovereign state of the name and title of
“The Republic of

WetinConsignMe:
U obviously don't know the difference between anecdotes and what is the norm. U say study history yet all your anecdotes are contemporary figures. Historically can u name any king that was able to order Igbos around? Can you name any king that Igbos prostrated to?
Hence the saying "Igbo enwe eze" which basically means "Igbos don't blindly follow kings".

igbos have no culture. zero culture. ojukwu ordered u guys around and by commission or omission caused the killings if millions of igbos. u guys wouldnt have ibeyed ojukwu if u didn't bow to any ng. after he nearly wiped u gyys out he ran away to ivory coast same way nnamdu kalu ran away

WetinConsignMe:
Why are u letting tribalism blind u to what is obvious. It is just a matter of different cultures. Traditionally Igbos never liked a king lording it over them, Yorubas don't mind, and infact like it.
Has nothing to do with stinginess or anything.
There is an ancient saying: "Igbo enwe eze". Find out what it means and stop making a fool of yourself

，，i see and thats why okorocha wanr to install his son in law as governor abi? ojukwu ordered the igbis to come back after the violenve in the north against them in 1966. if they didnt want a lird over them why did they obey ojukwu?. saraki tried to install his daughter in kwara the people resisted. tinubus cousin was about to lose in osun but in imo rochas is about to install his son. study history and argue from facts.

WetinConsignMe:
Actually the opposite. Ojukwu followed Igbos not vice versa. That's why u don't see Igbos blaming him. B4 the war he gave a passionate speech at UNN why Igbos should avoid war. He was booed.
Traditionally Igbos and Yorubas simply have different systems. It doesn't mean one is better. They are just DIFFERENT. Igbos are a republican people - the individual has a lot of power. While in Yorubaland most of the power lies with the monarch.

lies . igbos followed ojukwu like mumus. which is why bianca his wife wants to b a senator reppin anambra meanwhile shes from imo. thing is igbis cant have godfathet politicians since most igbo people are stingy. and to b a godfathet politician you gave to b a philanthropist. a real giver. see how stingy somdone like peter obi is fir instance

nku5:
Due to the Republican nature of the Igbo its impossible to have a jagaban type political leader. Totally impossible. The nearest we have come is Zik

puppets to no one but ojukwu indirectly killed more
than a million of you guys while you were following
him like mumus

WetinConsignMe:
@bolded, Igbos are actually highly individualistic and are puppets to no one. In Igbo land you can only lord it over your own household.

puppets to no one but ojukwu indirectly killed more than a million of you guys while you were following him like mumus

davodyguy:
It's the best option for Lagosians that Ambode wins.

Because I work for LASG and know their plans under him

He would bring an end to rickety 'danfo' and everyone would be inside mass transit. It's exactly what they have in Dubai (DTA) Dubai Transport Authority and in Australia. No more rough driving, on 3rd Mainland Bridge. Accident would reduce.

This man has plans and Tinubu should not use personal gains to run him down

rubbish. lagos should have a world class underground metro line by now. u talking bout buses

chronique:
True. Let the president and vice come from the north west and south west. That would automatically split northern votes and south west votes and we seal the victory with block votes from the south south, south east and middle belt. Checkmate!

wrong. and u think the south west would dump an osinbajo who s likely to take over in 2023 for a northern candidate who would likely for for a second term and therefore keep the south west waiting for another four years- 2027?

sureheaven:
Sowore won’t face his own campaign.

Akeredolu doesn’t have what it takes to render Tinubu useless politically, it’s not by noise.

Tinubu is the Awolowo of our time, if u have any other person greater than Tinubu apart from Awolowo, please name the person in the Yoruba race.

PLS DONT EVER COMPARE TUNUBU TO AWOLOWO. ATE U HIGH OR SOMETHING? U MUST B VERY STUPID AND MAAD

zinnyzee:
Shebi we both dey for d third world together.

u and who. speak for urself

zinnyzee:
Heh.... Bae looking like balloon.

13yrs old posing with one leg up.
When i was 13, i didn't even know how to pose for camera sef.

cos she grew up in a developed country. u grew up in third world. cant compare

Realname:
You are not serious

SMH

I won't waste my time futher explaining to you

Cheers

kwankwasos fan why are running away. bring forth ur arguments. they are very baseless let me tell u

Realname:
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Kwakwanso will destroy buhsri in the core north
.you do not know anything about what you are talking about

and he couldn't help pdp win in katsina during the bye elections. u are the joker here. buhari would win the north west by a landslide but would lose taraba gombe and say the fct.

Emmaskill:
Dis writeup is a perfect example of d more u look d less u see.

kwankwanso can never beat buhari in the core north.
he would struggle n states like gombe taraba benue
plateau. he's fulani so whats the difference between
him and buhari. an average yoruba man would go for
buhari osinbajo a least so that in the next election
the south west could win the presidency. an atiku or
kwankwanso ticket makes no sense in the south west.
it means they would have to wait another eight
years to get the presidency. the bye elections b
katsina and bauchi already tells where core north which is the north west and east would votr

Realname:
Kwakwanso will defeat buhari in the core north
You don't know what you are talking about

Relax we are insiders. North base movers

Trust me Kwakwanso is the one to beat in the north .

The lazy idiotic corrupt Lifeless illiiterate incompetent buhari aka the cow whisperer will not like this

https://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/xCukw7m.gif

kwankwanso can never beat buhari in the core north.
he would struggle n states like gombe taraba benue
plateau. he's fulani so whats the difference between
him and buhari. an average yoruba man would go for
buhari osinbajo a least so that in the next election
the south west could win the oresidency. an aiku or
kwankwanso ticket makes no sense in the zouh west.
it means theregin would have to wait another eight
years to get the presidency. the bye electikbs b
jatsiba and bauchi already tells where thw borth cire
north north west would vote

Laralag:
This is not strange,afterall That is a wealthy society, were people can spend money on not so important things, plus 2500 capacity? And this is making headline? Young Africans living in Boston should be well above that

dont mind them. tickets were gojng for 25 usd off he venue and 30 usd at the vebue. who cant afford that jn bostob? like u said young nigerians. plus its a 2009 capacity.

Laralag:
This is not strange,afterall That is a wealthy society, were people can spend money on not so important things, plus 2500 capacity? And this is making headline? Young Africans living in Boston should be well above that

dont mind them. tickets were gojng for 25 usd off he venue and 30 usd at the vebue. who cant afford that jn bostob? like u said young nigerians. plus its a 2009 capacity.

zlantanfan:
Is it that Saraki doesn't know wike would work for a tambuwal victory or has wike betrayed tambuwal already.


The mystery remains how kwankwaso would accept an atiku victory as credible who he has won in a primary before.

How atiku would accept a kwankwaso victory as credible when he has spent much more in seeking delegates.


How kwankwaso and atiku would take the victory of a half northerner and sell him to core north

kwankwanso can never beat buhai in the core north. he would struggle n states like gombe taraba benue plateau. hes fulani so whats tge difference bereeen hm and buhari. an averafe yoruba mab woukd gi for byharu osinbajo a least si that in the next election the sout west coukd win the oresidency. an aiku or kwankwanso ticjet makes no sense in the zouh west. it means theregin would have to wait another eight years to get the presidency. the bye electikbs b jatsiba and bauchi already tells where thw borth cire north north west would vote

MartinCorridon:
My analysis :

The Nation is supposedly owned by Tinubu.

The newspaper is using propaganda to sow discord in the PDP camp.

If it seems Kwankwaso might get ticket ahead of Saraki/Atiku, the others would start attacking Kwankwaso.

If the fight is very bitter and nasty, the losers won't support the eventual winner of the PDP ticket


Saraki/ Atiku are the strongest candidates...but the Nation is intelligently pushing Kwankwaso/ Tambuwal forward

exactly. apc would prefer a kwakwanso or tambuwal they could easily beat. this is tinubus plan. magine tambuwal and wike on a ticket. thats a fail. tambuwal that wont even win his local govt. tvc is also pushing the same thing. jide on journaliat hangout is pushing for kwankwasi. so can see tinubu hands in thus. nnsense

Acidosis:
In a working environment, getting a job, getting paid for a contract or a job well done, getting a visa, buying a car, etc. would not be testimonies.

I'm happy you got a job bro, but I'm also sad that normal events have become miracle/testimonies in Nigeria. Our fathers did not testify, they had options, some of them got good jobs on their graduation day. It is a job, a place you have to work and sweat. Employers should be testifying instead

best quote ever

geometricaxis:
my error I didnt realise Adamawa and taraba were NE states, . Nonetheless my calculation already discounted those states because I had wrongly classed them as middle belt/NC which I assumed he would lose because of the Herdsmen and PDP. Gombe always votes for Buhari irrespective of candidates for governor or house/senate but even then Gombe is like Ekiti they only have 400k TOTAL voters.

This a is a trend in the North if you look at Buharis 4 presidential campaigns results. even when they vote for pdp or other parties in the senate, house and governorship elections, they always voted for Buhari in the presidential elections. Kano is a good example, Kano has always voted overwhelmingly for buhari irrespective of who becomes (or which party produces) the governor.

People need to understand that Buhari does not need to win states. The requirement is overall majority of votes AND 1/4 of votes in 2/3rds of states. No matter what happens Buhari will win in the North hands down, the states he may lose in the north do not have enough voters to dent his votes in his stronghold which are the places with the highest number of voters. For instance the total number of 2017 voters in taraba was 600k, adamawa 600k, gombe, 400k, Buharis margin of victory in Kano was 1.7m, in katsina 1.2M, you see where I am going? If everybody in taraba, adamawa and gombe votes for PDP (which will never happen) Kano or katsina will take care of them and he still has Sokoto, Zamfara, bauchi, Borno in reserve, these are states that always vote Buhari 10 to 1 which is approximatrly another 2.5 million votes to play with. So as long as he holds SW and manages to retain his majority in one of Kano and Kaduna then it is mathematically impossible, Buhari cannot be beaten. the battle ground is not the North it is SW and i cant see PDP making inroads this time around with the Tinubu/Osinbajo factor especially as Atiku (the only candidate that can make inroads into the SW is a sworn enemy of OBJ who is the key to the SW for PDP.


https://www.electoralgeography.com/new/en/countries/n/nigeria/nigeria-presidential-election-2003.html
https://www.reuters.com/article/nigeria-elections-results-idAFLDE73G05B20110418
https://www.nigerianmuse.com/20110419040622zg/sections/general-articles/details-of-2011-presidential-election-results-in-nigeria/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigerian_general_election,_2015

this is nonsense. buhari won the core north three times what happened? he still lost. look the battleground this time is the north central. plateau benue nasawara fct kwara kogi. he won all except the fct in 2015. the southwest this time isn't too sure. if pdp can elect a quality northern presidential candidate plus a quality yoruba vice then the soyth eest could be tough. hey tinubus influence stops in Lagos. he struggled in ekiti and ondo. yorubas are not like the northerners that vote one wat. in 2015 what was the gap between Jonathan and buhari n lagos? the margin? very close. and then buhari was very popular. but look at the economy and security today.

Profzeb:
(Dankwambo is a decent man.
But for now, we don't need a decent man.....
What we need is for Buhari to be defeated.
We need a strong man to defeat Buhari.
Atiku is the only northern politician who has a chance to defeat Buhari.)



I strongly disagree with you. The only person in PDP that can defeat Buhari is Rabiu Kwankwanso. Core Northerners wount vote for Atiku, mark my worlds. This is because to them, Atiku is not a bigot and has the tendency of restructuring the country which they hate because they depend on it to survive. Nigeria needs a person like Atiku but he lacks that followership in the north because of his love for other ethnic groups in the country and not only the north and its religion. In Atiku's university, many Nigerians from diverse ethnic groups enjoy his free scholarships. Core north hate such gesture.

when buhari was winning the core north did that make him president? u need the national spread to be president which is why buhari aligned with tinubu. atiku has the nationalspread, kwakwaso doesnt

geometricaxis:
my friend please before you talk next time, look at the history of Buharis votes in the north since 2003 he has been contesting elections . Buhari has never lost in the North West and north East. with only the exception of 2003 when he lost kaduna to OBJ otherwise buhari has won every state NW and NE every time and by huge margins each time!!!! Again the only exception was 2007 in kaduna where his victory over yaradua was marginal. In 2007 he defeated both Atiku(10 to 1) and yaradua even in their own states. go and check the results please. the only part of the North that is vulnerable is the middle belt and 1) the number of votes there is relatively small 2) buhari will win some states 3) in the states where he loses, the margin wont be huge 4) Buhari's total loss in all the NE states will be made up in Katsina alone.

Buhari is an untouchable phenomenon in the North!! In 4 elections that Buhari has contested NOBODY has even come close to him in the core North!!

this time taraba gombe adamawa not too sure for him

godfatherx:
Malicious destruction of property is both a criminal and civil offense.

She can be prosecuted and he can sue her civilly and get compensated with punitive damages.

I have watched Judge Judy too much.

there is nothing like 'civil offense'. offenses can only be criminal at least here. go get a proper law degree. judge judy won't help you

Pavore9:
Well, every man and his aspiration.

you are a brainless fellow

is north nigeria? go and read the constitutional requirements to become president