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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 11:03pm On Mar 27, 2013
CAMEROONPRIDE: nigger? shocked shocked shocked, watch your mouth
What you american now.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 11:02pm On Mar 27, 2013
CAMEROONPRIDE: his comment was Epic
No it was foolish and a lie.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 11:02pm On Mar 27, 2013
CAMEROONPRIDE: sorry breath and calm down. I really don't understand what you tried to say
That you willing to beilfe every thing this guy says even though his only source are from apartied loyast sites.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 11:00pm On Mar 27, 2013
CAMEROONPRIDE: Epic
Yes I know they where epic.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 10:59pm On Mar 27, 2013
patriot3: Only a fool a passionate patriot will believe such a propaganda line. And even if that was the case, military is not wrestling, a defeat is a defeat. The foolishness of your generals is also to put in the ballance while calculating military strenght. 200 against 3000, your soldiers might have just beten the record of the spartans. Fool.
Those are the numbers. Don't like them go jump of a bridge. And SANDF did not give those numbers. Observers did. SA sluaghterd Seleka rebels and they raised the white flag and even asked SA for medical help.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 10:56pm On Mar 27, 2013
patriot3: I am what you can call a news junkee.
I live in Paris and these things just don't go unnoticed to me.
Just type "SANDF french army free passage" on google
I still want your souce.

http://www.google.com/m/search?tbm=nws&hl=en&source=mog&hl=en&gl=us&client=ms-rim&tab=wn&q=SANDF%20french%20army%20free%20passage%22&sa=N
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 10:53pm On Mar 27, 2013
CAMEROONPRIDE: Lmao laugh want kill me ..... They did what? Patriots I'm really laughing hard
Only a fool from a backwater would bielfe a unfact checked claim.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 10:52pm On Mar 27, 2013
agaugust: Wait for me to post, its a long analysis I didn't want to do because south Africans began to make unreasonable comments on military power, challenging American navy, NATO military powers, and claiming south African navy can defeat all navies in Africa, I found those claims extremely ridiculous and going crazy.

I am posting only to inform Nigerians and other public readers. I don't want to entangle myself in argument with south Africans again.

@Snydergp pulled @henry into a big family bashing mess. @GreenandGold pulled me into African colonial history mess till I offended all black people by mistake.

I want to be careful making arguement with south Africans, they can make a man to sin against the whole of humanity.
You have being saying this for how long. I am still waiting for my laugh.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 10:49pm On Mar 27, 2013
patriot3: I am what you can call a news junkee.
I live in Paris and these things just don't go unnoticed to me.
Just type "SANDF french army free passage" on google
Posted it. Because I have those news sites send me email updats. SA never asked for safe passeg.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 10:47pm On Mar 27, 2013
patriot3: Are you kidding, your soldiers where too busy trying to beat Usain bolts record while fleeing, they had no time to count the people shooting them from their back, talkless of the ones who died from friendly fire.
Now you being a fool. No reports stated SA solders running away.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 10:45pm On Mar 27, 2013
CAMEROONPRIDE: rolling on the floor.dude u wicked
And you a fool from a back water country that let 300 rebels from sudan kill your elphants.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 10:43pm On Mar 27, 2013
patriot3: South Africans, I have just been informed that your soldiers were calling for the french soldier in CAR to protect them from SELEKA and grant them safe passage to the airport.
What a millitary prouesse.
(ironysmileyThough I Wonder, since you were easilly beaten by farmers wielding guns and driving technicals, did you take time to show them your beautifull millitary photos ? Because if you did then how come you didn't win ?
Where is your souce. We asked for medical asstaince not safe passege.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 10:41pm On Mar 27, 2013
patriot3: It is the same superiority complex that had SELEKA defeating your soldiers in CAR.
You people are a living joke.
Fool we where never beaten. We still in the country and achied a 50 to 1 kill ratio.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 10:39pm On Mar 27, 2013
patriot3: South African millitary is a joke, proof:
http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/williamsaundersonmeyer/2011/03/05/pirates-to-make-sandf-walk-the-plank/
http://www.gunsite.co.za/forums/showthread.php?13088-82-000-SANDF-weapons-missing
http://mikesmithspoliticalcommentary..fr/2013/03/sandf-clowns-slaughtered-in-car.html
South africans, it is time to open your eyes, you can't even compare with Zimbabwe, talkless of Nigeria.
You talk out of pride while affirmative action has killed your fighting force.
You were just recently beaten by a loose rebel group in CAR, no matter how much propaganda and excuses you put on it, a defeat is a defeat. Learn from it and better yourself.
Lol you posting aparthied fools has a source.


Our was SA beaten, just over 200 SA solders fought between 1000 and 3000 rebels for 3 days suvering 13 dead and 27 wounded. But killed 500 rebels and held there ground. The rebels raised the white flag not the south africans.

Those SA solders had no air or ground support, where out numberd and out gunded yet where able to fight the rebels to a draw. It not our fault that the regional peace keepers ran away and that CAR own army either ran away or joinded the rebels. You are a fool.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 10:09pm On Mar 27, 2013
sheyie2007: you emphasized how they'll conquer Nigerian navy..HEheheheheh.. like i said, i pray we don't go to war wink
No one has siad how they may surivive against SAN.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 9:48pm On Mar 27, 2013
sheyie2007: Lol.. i like the battle formation in your head shocked
What formation. I just said SMST cand deffend it's self from the nigerian navy with out the need of any support.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 9:46pm On Mar 27, 2013
sheyie2007: FYI: GLO is covering major west African countries plus they once sponsored Manchester united grin
Glow is big in west africa but limted to that region. MTN operats all over the world. And I don't like MTN. I use vodocom.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 9:29pm On Mar 27, 2013
solomon111: WTF?
Is this a joke?
Even the entire southafrican navy with its so-called submarines cannot pull off such feat.
What you talking about. The nigerian navy is not set up to fight major naval battels. Only one ship has any reall fire power and it is no threat. The only way NN could survive is by hiding in there ports. And that still means SAN gains sea control.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 9:23pm On Mar 27, 2013
solomon111: He dosen't need to explain anything.
You are very deluded.
It seems southafricans like making very ignorant statements.
How am I deluded. Simmons town is protected by a number of 76mm guns. It sits in fals bay and coverd by mountains. All routs are coverd in and out. The Nigerian navy would not stand a chance.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 9:19pm On Mar 27, 2013
sheyie2007: Crazy nigga... in africa glo is advanced than mtn tech-wise.. go figure ... with the tight competition mtn faces in SA with cell c, Vodacom and telcom mobile I'm sure it records very low revenue in south africa. can't say 5% Though
glow is still a very minor player in the world and africa
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 8:45pm On Mar 27, 2013
agaugust: You are the one who does not know economics. Revenue is not necessarily determined by number of customers outside Nigeria if the average Nigerian oil company pays MTN $10 million a year and a trading company in other African company pays MTN $2 million a year, then Nigeria has larger percentage of MTN yearly revenue even if we have only 25% of all MTN African subscriber base.

Need to be sure MTN has 200 million customers in Africa, how many human beings are in Africa as a whole?

South Africans are very weak in mathematics and complex economics.
And where is your proof.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 8:31pm On Mar 27, 2013
sheyie2007: Andrew, i said "dream on".. i don't pray we go to war grin
Then explian how the nigerian navy would pull it off.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 8:13pm On Mar 27, 2013
sheyie2007: Lol..... dream on bro
You can't hit simmons town with any of your missils from a great distance. You need to enter the bay. And the 76mm battries around siommons town can hit any thing in the bay.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 6:21pm On Mar 27, 2013
souldust: i dont get what you mean by "informal not untaxed" if you were trying to ask if we tax the informal sector, the answer is yes and no.

In Naija, only Lagos state taxes the informal sector. And even at that, not every one still pays taxes. So all other people in the informal sector in the other 35 states and the federal capital Abuja making 36, do not pay tax.

As for Naija's budget, you have to understand that the budget concerns only the employees of the govt. MOST nigerians are not employees of the govt. We are farmers/enterpreneurs. The only thing we get from the budget is the is the subsidy regime which has been slashed by 40percent. So the national budget doesnt affect majority of our citizens.
Budget is not just for paying people money. It used to repair national roads, conduct infustructer development, RnD, extra.

SA may not be a fedral country but each provinse has there own budget has well and each major city or city area.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 6:15pm On Mar 27, 2013
agaugust: ...your own personal level of intelligence.
Siommons town alone with out any of it's war ships could sink the entire nigerian navy.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 6:07pm On Mar 27, 2013
souldust: @greenandgold what other facility to show a middle class is more indicating than the fact that more consumer based companies are targeting Nigeria? We pay DSTV more than you pay them. Pay tv is more expensive in Nigeria than in SA. The same goes for telecom. Infact, MTN makes 70percent of their total revenue from Naija. You grocery stores will stop at nothing to get into our market. Naija is the largest market for generators. More automobiles are sold in Naija than anywhere else on the continent.

They will not come if we cannot buy their goods. What do you think we use to buy all these things, grasses? No! It is money we use. So stop having a false image of yourselves by thinking you are the only country in Africa.
Dude I have DST in townships. I can afford it if I wanted to and I am not middel class.


Nigeria has a big popultsion and low compertsion. SA companys saw a opening and went for it.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 6:05pm On Mar 27, 2013
agaugust: @Sheyie2007 , I will fully address the NNS ARADU issue from where you reached, good job my brother. So I will match the whole south African navy vs Nigerian navy.

I will address the issue from two points. first without Nigeria's two new stealth light frigates announced by finance minister okonjo iweala as under construction and second without those two new stealth warships which will be replacing NNS ARADU when they arrive from china.

I will post a naval combat between Nigeria and south Africa when I have time Thursday or Friday.


I will wait till all guys are done with the issue of Nigerian level of development in infrastructure. @GreenandGold insulted Nigeria calling us a country that does not function. I replied him and his people from south Africa started ranting as usual.
I am still waiting for this post. It will be very funny how you twist numbers and facts.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 5:56pm On Mar 27, 2013
souldust: it is nigerias biggest provider in the sense that it brings more cash for the Fg. The FG gets its money from the formal sector of the economy and not from the informal. The money the FG gets goes into the hands of a few. Mainly the politicians and the civilservants. But most Nigerians are not in politics neither are we in the civil service! We are basically farmers who sell their produce in the market. We own small and medium scale businesses. We own kiosks etc.

The FG gets more cash from oil, but oil money doesnt get to our hands as we are not employers of the FG. I hope you can understand this and finally score an 'A' in your use of English
is informal not untaxed, meaning nigerias budget will still remian for some time far bellow south africas budget
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 5:00pm On Mar 27, 2013
souldust: dont mind them. So they just think every body is seeing oil dollar with his eyes. Not many nigerians have evr seen crude oil before. Fact! You will be surprised how many people who dont know its colour lol. They couldnt put up with the fact that oil accounts for only 16percent of what we produce locally.
http://sustainablecitiescollective.com/futurecapetown/124706/will-nigeria-overtake-south-africa-africa-s-powerhouse


Oil is with out a doubt nigerias biggest provider to there economy.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 4:14pm On Mar 27, 2013
Henry120: Who has been posting drawings.
Same guy who thinks africa was mud hut until the white man got here.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 4:09pm On Mar 27, 2013
Henry120: Andrew, you are on your own. The APC has proven to be very effective, that is what matters.

The article clearly corresponds with what I had earlier said. The defence headquarters in pretoria should take the blame for the death of the 13 soldiers. They showed a basic lack of understanding of the situation on ground in CAR. There carelessness led to the death of 13 soldiers and same for the 28 wounded. The figures are way to high.

If they had air support and 50 calibre's providing suppressing fire the numbers of the dead would have been significantly lower. A 12.7mm HMG would have done the soldiers a whole lot of good.

Like I said before, same as the expert in the article, south africa needed least a battalion of troops.

Going forward, south africa should send at the very least a battalion of troops into CAR, including a mechanised company. MRAPs, IFV's, ILV's, casspir , and two roovialk helicopters. armed with 12.7mmHMG and up to 50 cals.

This is similar to what nigeria sent to mali, we have well above a battalion in mali, including 350 airforce paratroopers

MRAPS armed with both 12.7mm's and 50 cal's( GPMG's are carried by troops, not even mounted on APC's). We also have sagei, same as the french in mali.

For air cover we got 2 MI-35p's and 1 MI-24 hind. 2 alpha jets. This is enough fire power.
It is my opion. But I don't like it. Then again I have called the styker POS on american domernated forum to a guy who helped test them. And I still have the last word.


Has I said before. It the civlians. The genrails where saying since JAN that it going to get bad, that our troops are in danger and that it would be best to pull out. The fact is they have busseniss in CAR that they wanted to proted hence they over rulled the commoanders.


According to the report 2 batllions and maybe a few rooivalks and orxy helcopters will deploy. They not going to be mechnised but ligh infantry and motrised. Moveing and supporting ratal over that distance thrue air supply is not feesbel. And there is no need for them in any case. The seleka is not that strong.




Nigeria had a support and a short distance for the malil op. You could truck in supplys if need be. We have access to one airport. Or we must cross from the DRC over the river. Neith way will allow mechnisid units to be brought in. So Mamba(or rushed RG35s) and casspers along with oryx and rooivalk. And 120mm long rang motars for fire support. Our 120s have great range and could cover the city from the airport.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 3:46pm On Mar 27, 2013
sheyie2007: Will give it to calabar anyday cool
Now you see I like it when people post pics and not drawings. smiley

I still prever simmons town. A littel vialge by the sea slopping in the moutain protecded by 76mm and 35mm guns. Bring it on zombie hord.

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