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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 6:26pm On Feb 27, 2013
snydergp: http://www.janes-defense-weekly.com

The worlds most trusted online military source.
A good site for local african news

www​.defenceweb.co.za/
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 6:20pm On Feb 27, 2013
solomon111: we wanted to buy like like 6-7 of those scuds,tear them apart,study them,and then create a local variant.
We also wanted to use them as a platform to launch our home-made space and rocket technology.
ICBM is a little beyond our reach for now.
You don't even build a jet engine yet you want to build a SCUD?
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 6:14pm On Feb 27, 2013
CAMEROONPRIDE: grin grin grin grin shocked shocked shocked

SA are really going ham on naijan grin shocked
Since you guys are expert can you present us others armies esp those in let say top 10/5
Also Syndergp&co where are your lists/own rankings
In africa Algeria is very powerfull lots of advance wepaons. Chad has a lot of experiance. Angola has a good airforce and ok army. And of course egypt thanks to 2billion dollars in aid from amrica.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 6:08pm On Feb 27, 2013
solomon111: Would you mind telling me the southafricans that build those techs,and where they got their training from or were they self-taught.?
Lol
Witch techs. There many. And they got it in SA we got of world class unvirstys.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 6:03pm On Feb 27, 2013
solomon111: google,
'Nigeria to acquire missile technology from N.korea'.
Seems you wanted to buy Scud knock offs from NK. Not build a ICBM. It makes littel point to me.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 5:57pm On Feb 27, 2013
solomon111: it still dosen't change the fact that the arpatheid researchers(which were not originally Southafricans) kept their research in SA and also transfered technical know-how from their former countries to southafrica.
Besides,Israel were also instrumental to your technical edge.
Imagine if England transfered nuclear and other kinds of tech to Nigeria during the colonial era,we would probably be a superpower by now.
But no,they only wanted to exploit.
Common myths but all wrong. SA devloped most of its tech with out any help from europe and we deloved a lot before them. Such has V lap, helmet mounted lock on sights, MRAP.

Israel built a few of our strike crafts(the rest where built in durban) and helped with the cheeta program(witch are not in servise)
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 5:32pm On Feb 27, 2013
solomon111: I was just kidding though.
I know SA had other resources,but it seems you guys depend more on diamonds.
What year you living in. Diamonds are by far not even close to a big money earner for us. We get more from Coal imports than diamonds.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 5:30pm On Feb 27, 2013
solomon111: That was the excuse America gave when we wanted to get missile tech from the N.koreans.
They said we were about to have the uneviable position of being the first subsaharan nation with missile tech,and they discouraged us from buying.
As for the capability of our drones;
we will get there faster than you think.
(kudos to SA,you guys have come a long way)
Unless you can provide a source I doubt the missiel story. Nigeria Air force has only short ranged interceptors and alpha jets for ground attack yet you want me to beilfe they would waist cash on a verey expensive misseil program with out there even being a threat that would make the cost worth it.

A ICBM/SLBM is more than just a misseil. It a launch platform, raddar sytem, a gaurded and sercure base of oporation. Basical for the price of one SLBM battrie nigeria could get a light infantry battlion witch would be of much more use.


There is a resone SA has not carried on with the ICBM/SLBM reshearch. It cost a lot for a tech we don't need any more(no cubans to nuke) and we could spend that money on much more need stuff.

Basicaly where is the proof.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 5:22pm On Feb 27, 2013
solomon111: The arpatheid era already set the foundation for tech devt in SA.
We are starting from scratch.
Nigeria was independet from 1960. Technicly around the same time has SA since we only became a republic in the 60s.

SA wepaons resherch only begain in the 1970s. Before that we used hand me downs from the west with a few purcheses. So that is a poor exsuse since Aparthied did all it's wepaons reshearch under sactions.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 5:18pm On Feb 27, 2013
solomon111: what does SA has apart from diamonds?
SA is not as big as Nigeria,so the probability of it having more natural resources is low.
Did you really say that and ask that.

Diamonds are a very small part of our income.

We not that much smaller than you. Your population is bigger but land mass is a diffrent thing.

Any case we have platuniem(actually number 1) gold, coal, natrul gas, iron, urianim extra extra

We all so found the largest depost of hydrogen in the world in SA. There are a number of componys biding for mining rites there. But we need to insure it is done properlly.

We all so refine most of our products giving us a greater price.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 5:10pm On Feb 27, 2013
sheyie2007: Good your masters provided them ... we all know y'all black asses cant manufacture shiit... all they crave for is BEE... I'm proud to be from a black nation that reached this might against all odds.. cool
Both the mokap, A datar and soon to be land based Umkonto are new sytems of the new SA

Apartheid SA had the ingwen AGM witch is still being improved. The first ingwen could only be used by AFV like the ratel where the newst version is light enough to be used on a tripod like the milan. It may replace the milian in SA severs soon enough.

Algeria used Ingwen on there Hinds witch a SA deffense commpany upgraded. Actualy SA fly one of the most advanced Hinds in the world. It sole job is to be a markiting tool.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 3:42pm On Feb 27, 2013
There is nothing wrong the nigerian cop cars. They suit the terrian. Any case SAPS all so used baakies(pick up trucks) in larg amount.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 3:35pm On Feb 27, 2013
souldust: photonews.sunmismartcole.com/2011/02/02/war-on-crime-governor-babatunde-fashola-donates-100-patrol-vehicles50-motorcycles-to-police/

go there and see pics of cars belonging to the Nigerian police. You can see motorcycles too. It is so unfortunate i cant post pics here. Ive been trying to do so but just cannot. Maybe some else can help me. I will continue to give links..
https://photonews.sunmismartcole.com/wp-content/gallery/lagos-state-government-donates-vechiles/dsc_6541.jpg


https://photonews.sunmismartcole.com/wp-content/gallery/lagos-state-government-donates-vechiles/dsc_6549.jpg
Foreign AffairsRe: Russian Iskander Missiles - The Answer To US/NATO/Israeli Missile Interceptors by andrewza: 11:09am On Feb 27, 2013
Why would any body sell that advance to syria. If the regime changes there will be a chance for the west to get 1 of them.

Any case the best means to stop a SLBM is to use air power to destroy them on the ground.
PoliticsRe: Can Nigeria Become A Super Power Without Electricity? by andrewza: 10:36am On Feb 27, 2013
360command: Yes Nigeria can become a super power without electricity because there is a proverb in french that says , 'Aux pays des aveugles le borgne est Roi' - In a country of blind people ,one eyed man is the king'. Now if other african countries or countries are adamant in becoming a super power,where they are blind in been that super power, we (nigeria) that is blind can have advantage over other country. Note: the advantage becomes a 'one eye' for us to be the king or super power as the scenario given. This is in relation to the proverb I gave in the beginning . IN A COUNTRY OF BLIND PEOPLE , ONE EYED MAN IS THE KING.
Taking that saying to heart means you saying that every countrie more powerfull than nigeria has to suffer a major diaster. Thus making nigeria the one eyed man. It is next imposibil that every country would be knocked out that badly and if they do nigeria will fall. Where you going to buy your finshed products and sell your oil.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 10:07am On Feb 27, 2013
Why do people think nigeria has there wepaons hidden. That is wrong and not correct. Just because you don't have pics dose not mean they hidden.

When was the time Nigeria had a full scalle milltary exersize.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 9:59am On Feb 27, 2013
scipher: Dude, you've been on this platform for a while now, and i'm not saying there's no crime in Nigeria.. the fact is it's low compared to SA (accurate stats or not)...The world knows that. Investors/tourists won't flood in like they're doing if it's so high in addition to our BH boys menace in the north... Before god and man, I witness robbery in PTA (again after 5 years) during my visit to SA (2011) can never forget that day.
Never siad SA crime rate was low. It is high and viloent. But kbow one knows the true crime rate of Nigeria. It may not be higher than us but it is high. And our poliece are doing a better job than the cops in Nigeria. Most crimes in SA are gang related.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 8:55am On Feb 27, 2013
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 6:49am On Feb 27, 2013
sheyie2007: http://worldnews.about.com/od/crime/tp/Top-Murder-Rates-In-The-World.htm
grin grin http://www.mapsofworld.com/world-top-ten/countries-with-highest-reported-crime-rates.html

http://worldnews.about.com/od/crime/tp/Top-Murder-Rates-In-The-World.htm


You should be crying niggah
Highst reported crime. Nigerias crimes stats acttualy most of your stats given by the goverment can not be trusted. There fore no one knows the true level in nigeria.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 6:35am On Feb 27, 2013
sheyie2007: Not a big issue? Are you fvcking kidding me? It's flipping alarming.. I read the news everyday.. SMH
So do I and I do a daily you tube search of south africa. I acctualy just looked at all the head lines on News 24. Nothing about any church. I know about the pastor you talking about and his supports in SA are a mixture of low educted South Africans (witch thanks to aparthied we have in large amount) and Nigerians.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 11:57pm On Feb 26, 2013
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 11:22pm On Feb 26, 2013
It looks like one of the newr AK's with a rail for optics and a fore grip. It is a lot better than what the army is using.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 11:13pm On Feb 26, 2013
Nigerian cops seem to have better AK's than army with what seems to be skelton folding stocks.

What the vechile in the last pic. Looks like I have seen it some where.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 10:10pm On Feb 26, 2013
souldust: @andrewza did you take those pics in your office? What is that which looks like a laptop?
No I work on a ship. It was from a deffense expo.

It part of our comms sytems. It is one of SANDFs strong points. Even how old comms sytem are pretty high tech with solar reachging pannels and some other nice feturs but the new ones.

They have ZAlink (a secure Data link communcation)
Frequncie hoping
SMS fuction
Blue tooth
USB
GPS(that will let the comanda know the location of the radio)
Built in Elictronic counter messures

And that is for the reguler troops. The sytem our SF use is is crazy.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 9:51pm On Feb 26, 2013
souldust: i really think we should get back to the topic. The reason i am here is to know more about the military. Am just begining to know certain things about military. I have an uncle and a cousin who are biafra war veterans. But since they are generations older than me and that they are not contemporary soldiers, there is little they can tell me about the Nigerian military and militaries in general.

@andrewza what can be a military secret since virtually all countries know the what weapons other countries have in their arsenal? And how important is terrain in warfare?
With the advent of the space age it has become much harder to hide what you have. Truth is most of the info is not given out by milltarys but by countries or from milltary anyalists. But that dose not mean countries can not keep secrits. Training, doctrian, level of readness extra extra.

And in war time it becomes even more imporated. But that is a diffrent storry.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 8:41pm On Feb 26, 2013
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 8:28pm On Feb 26, 2013
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 8:08pm On Feb 26, 2013
there are a all most 3 million Zimbabweans in sa. Most living in townships. The seen has job stealers since they work for less and people like to hire them because if they get fired they to afraid to report them due to a fear of deportation.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 4:57pm On Feb 26, 2013
snydergp: Can I post u the link to Mbeki's auto biography including the SA national museum archive on the life of Thabo Mbeki which clearly states in detail where Mbeki got his training and university qualifications which mainly took place in London and Moscow, together with his deployment to Lusaka Zambia where ANC had its main base.

He was never schooled or trained in Nigeria, u can't fool a SA citizen who've read many books and archives of SA liberation history all know what was Mbeki mission when he was sent to Nigeria that is all history to us.
http://www.sahistory.org.za/people/thabo-mvuyelwa-mbeki

Read it and tell me what you find and stop making nonsense stories here.

You continuesly talk about SA being a crime riddled wreck yet u fail to talk about all the robberies being committed in Nigeria on public roads where people don't even feel save to drive in certain national roads.
http://www.tribune.com.ng/index.php/letters/41289-daylight-roberies-on-nigerian-roads

Here is another report on the hidden violent crime scourge in Nigeria which never hit the international headlines because its a well known fact that next to Mexico, Nigeria is the second best when it comes to violent armed robberies which.

"Twenty people were killed today and two others were badly hurt in armed raids in Kaboro village."

Bandits stormed the village and began shooting indiscriminately in a remote area 120km from the state in Zamfara state
.
http://www.iol.co.za/news/africa/twenty-killed-by-robbers-in-nigeria-1.1414410

Now things like this even how bad SA's crime levels are never happen not even once post the apartheid era has a bandits and robbing people killed so many innocent people. If this happened SA there would've been a national inquiry into the massacre, but in Nigeria this was only a Zamfara state problem not a federal issue.

Stop making as if Nigeria in terms of violence are better of then SA because its not.

Why can't some of u not stick to a particular topic and not deviate from it when u cannot win a argument or discuss like adults. Why is this a particular national custom of most of u Nigerians on this site when u either discuss SA or other african nations.
angryangryangryangryangryangryangryangryangryangryangry
was there not some a attack last year in SA. I know there where not close to that many dead.
Foreign AffairsRe: Pizza Shop Offers Discount To Gun-Owners by andrewza: 3:34pm On Feb 26, 2013
[quote author=Area_boy]First of all, source this chat please.. Cos this chart is misleading as the firearms text box is in red but the pie slice in red is on non motor accident. looks a bit poorly constructed by abortion hating rednecks undecided undecided

Secondly, look at the pie chat and list out the problems that can be prevented against the ones that can be prevented

Even if firearms kill 10 people a year, that's 10 too many[/quote]http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr61/nvsr61_06.pdf

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/homicide.htm


And i disagree if those 10 where rapist scum they deserve there death. And if some one tries to do me harm i will kill them.

And yes a red neck made the chart but it is factual.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 11:54am On Feb 26, 2013
interguru: sorry if u ar offended . i also Hv . no offence intended
none tacken
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 10:58am On Feb 26, 2013
interguru: lmao. bro write in english nd try to be coherent.
Firstly I have dyslxia
Secondaly if you strugling to under stand what I am saying you should go get help. Just every body else can more or less under stand the messege I am getting a cross.

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