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Is this not a job for poliec(parmilltatry) has far has I under stand BH dose not warrent a miiltary force other than to lend assest in. Limted form.

agaugust: Msauza you were born with only half brain from the womb, that's why you can post the comment above ]

Nigeria has many many problems. Just look at this forum where many people want civil war and for the country to break up. Though I doubt they would want a civil war if they saw the out come.

There is a growing number of extremist muussliems in the north who's actions are makeing the christians demonize or people of islamic faith.

Though MEND is for the most part under control and BH contianed the root cause of the problems is still there.

Nigeria and the region in genrail may replace the horn for the biggest piracy problem in africa

Nigeria is one the most corrupt nations in the world(though that may actually attract some forghine companys but only to exploit)

The popultion of nigeria is growing faster than the economy can keep pace. And though a large popultion can boost a country it can all so drag it down.

The milltary still holds way to much power in nigeria. Though I under stand this in the north. The fact is BH is a poliece matter and they should be the focuse of most of the sercurty budget and the navy along with the air force martime air wing(ant piracy). Strides are biening taken in the increasing of the navy's patrol fleet though and it is big.

Capnd143: wrong, americans are very tactical when it comes to military,ecomomic and diplomatic issues, you honestly espect the US to block oil supply to its own citizens? Even so, what of china and india? The ecowas? Blocking the sea route will only put SA On the enemy side, from a possible western or west african military intervention, we supply the bulk of oil this countries use, and any attempt to cut the oil routes will warrant serious military aggression. Wars are not won only with submarines, or automated rocket launchers, you allies, tacties, labour force, experience, knowlege of the enemy etc. In a possible war warranting blocking of nigerian oil routes, SA WILL DEFINITELY BEAR THE BRUNT. Thanks andrewza.

USA has larg reservs to fall on and china gets most of her fuel from Iran same has india thanks to the american sactions.

gst101: @msauza.sometimes i think south africans are liars by nature. Otherwise, how can you explain to me why you continue to tell lies even though we have proven to you that we are not fools in here.

Talking about political power and influence, we are still far more influencial than you, fact!
You speak of thabo mbeki? I laugh in your zu...whatever. C'mon, we all know of an OBJ. Even God in heaven is familiar with that name. The only mbeki success in africa is just south sudan. Let me inform you that Abdusalam Abubakar (nigeria's last military head of state)was part of the south sudan issue. Sorry to burst you buble that it wasnt solely an mbeki effort.

OBJs political influences so vast. This can be seen when he, unilaterally, put back in office a deposed legit govt in Sao tome. Becos of him, liberia is now stable as well as seria leone. He mediated in the DRC issue and the sudan presidents did their peace dialoge in Abuja.

really you think you got influnace. Please tell me what drugs you on. We got a lot more global and regional influce.

The Nigerian Navy has commissioned into service three OCEA and two Shaldag patrol boats during a ceremony at Western Naval Command Headquarters in Lagos.

The three OCEA FPB 72 Mk 2 vessels are 24 metre long coastal patrol craft with a top speed of more than 30 knots. The first commenced sea trials in March last year and all three were delivered in late September.

On September 4, 2012, Israel Shipyards announced that two new Shaldag Mk II Fast Patrol Craft were on their way to “an African customer for delivery to the local Navy.” This almost certainly was Nigeria.

During the commissioning ceremony on Monday, Minister of Finance Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala said the vessels would be used to combat oil theft and other crime on Nigeria’s waterways. She is quoted by This Day as saying the government procured the boats because Nigeria relies heavily on resources from its maritime domain.

“I am personally delighted at what has been achieved [by the Nigerian Navy] and I urge them to continue to work hard so that we can see results,” Okonjo-Iweala said. “With the acquisition, it is to show that the president is totally behind the Armed Forces.”

The Minister of State for Defence, Dr Olusola Obada, was quoted by the Voice of Nigeria as saying the commissioning was another milestone in the Nigerian Navy’s history. “I am aware of the constraints militating against the Nigerian Navy's efforts to optimally discharge its statutory duties, especially in the security of the maritime domain. It is however gladdening to note that in spite of existing challenges, the Nigerian Navy has continued to do its best in safe-guarding the nation's maritime assets,” Obada stated.

The Chief of Naval Staff Vice Admiral Dele Ezeoba said the Navy required at least 40 such patrol boats to effectively deal with maritime crime like sea robbery, piracy and oil theft. “Though the boats are small, they are fast. They are designed for security tasks such as interdiction, anti-smuggling, anti-illegal bunkering, sea robbery and piracy.”

Ezeoba noted that eleven officers and 48 ratings have been trained to man and maintain the boats.

The Shaldag design is in service with the Israeli Navy and other customers in Europe, Asia and Africa. It was developed and built by Israel Shipyards Ltd in the late 1980s but upgraded over the years based on combat experience. The type is powered by two diesel engines driving two water jets, which give an acceleration time to 40 knots of 40 seconds. The Shaldag Mk II has a length of 24.8 metres, a displacement of 58 tons and a range of 650 nautical miles.

Standard equipment on most Shaldag versions includes an X-band surveillance/navigation radar and electro-optical sensor system for day and night surveillance. A number of armament options are available, including fore and aft deck guns, and heavy machineguns on the fly bridge. The guns can be remotely controlled (such as the 23/25 mm Typhoon and 12.7/7.62 mm Mini-Typhoon) or manually operated weapons. In addition, a 20-23 mm naval gun can be mounted on the rear gun mount or four to eight short range missiles can be carried.

The Nigerian Navy received at least two Shaldag Mk IIs in June 2009. It is undergoing major expansion, with new boats being built locally and overseas. In October last year, China’s Wuchan Shipyard began construction of the first of two P18N offshore patrol vessels for the Nigerian Navy. These vessels are 95 metres long and are being built by China Shipbuilding and Offshore International Limited, the trade arm of China Shipbuilding Industry Corporation (CSIC). They will be delivered in around three years’ time and will be partly built in Nigeria.




http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=29434:nigerian-navy-commissions-shaldag-ocea-vessels&catid=51:Sea&Itemid=106






https://www.defenceweb.co.za/images/stories/SEA/SEA_NEW/Shaldag_fast_patrol_boat_350x300.jpg


see info is there about your milltary.

agaugust: Snydergp you idiot with half brain, size of war is not judged by how many countries were involved, it is how many soldiers engaged in battle that decides a big war. only about 10 countries fought world war II but over 10 million soldiers were involved and it becomes the biggest war in world history.

dont come here to teach nigerians the history of nigeria. you go and do your reseach on internet and stop telling lies about nigeria, spend your time and find correct google free information you lazy man.

No other African war engaged almost 500,000 soldiers and that is about Half a Million soldiers like the Nigerian B.iafran war of 1967-1970.

you are poor in research snydergp and your old age has weakened you brain. Cuba had about 25,000 soldiers in your south african war, No soviet union soldiers in that war. so combine all the other few under-populated african countries that joined and you are far behind compared to nigerian civil war size. Lagos city alone is double the population of the whole Angola nation

snygergp needs brain surgery before he can do simple mathematics of numbers.

In terms of the sizes of the battel the border war was larger.

There where a large number of Warsaw pact(including USSR) advicers and trainers in Angola but they never fought in the front lines and by rule the SA never targeted them.

agaugust: nigerian military is NOT a cheap and careless photography and hollywood movie society like south african military.

you will never see any internet photo of nigerian military helicopters with any weapons fitted, so you can foolishly say that all nigerian Mi-35 hind attack helicopters have no weapons removed and kept in the armoury until it is needed. we nigerians dont to movies with our military weapons. nigeria has 20 augusta military helicopters and only 2 out of 20 have public photographs. you can travel to nigeria and see the remaining 18 helicopters if that is the only way your adult age can think.

i am not a mentally sick person to as the chief of naval staff of nigeria to open the armoury and fully set up one auguasta helicopter with ASW equipment just for me to photograph it and post on internet for two south africans to prove that nigeria has the weapons that we know that we have.

if that is the way south african brains think, then i thank God i am not a south african. so andrewza and snydergp continue your photography war the same way your south africa judged Cuba military weapons because they did not set up all their weapons in photographs to show you before you attacked them, and you thought you could defeat them but you failed to win that war. your poor military history cannot be erased from public record that the whole world is reading.

You really don't under stand do you. I am not talking about slaping your wepaons on for a photo op. SANDF has never showen there full potsional. There no pics of a SAAF lynx with it's wepaons mouted even though they get fitted for when they go on there anti-piracy ops. But all asw/mairtim patrol/or strike hellicopters have some sort of built in seach sytem again look at the lynx.

agaugust:
nigerian military is NOT a cheap and careless photography and hollywood movie society like south african military, you over expose your weapons details and specifications to the whole world on internet, that is a stupid military blunder of south africa, all your enemies can plan effective operations against you because all your weapons details are available free on internet. you dont even have anything to hide just to try confuse your enemy and make it hard for him to predict you. nigerian military is much wiser than your own. how many Russian or Israeli military details of customized weapons do you ever see posted carelessly on internet ?

It not the SANDF who post the info but the companys who make the sytems. Do you know NATO countries are using those same sytems how do you think they advertise


You would be suprised how much both russia and isreal show of the gear.

agaugust:
i said you should prove it, simple, you stop telling lies if you have no proof, and stop wasting my time on augusta helicopters, if you have proof of waht you say about nigerian augusta helicopters, post it here and show us, dont just write your personal opinion that cannot be proved.

show evidence to prove to us that you andrewza has full details of nigerian military weapons information, not your own personal imagination from your bedroom.

you did not write any technical data or confirmed internet weblink information about augusta helicopters ten different versions the way i did, and you think other people reading your comments and my own will be foolish enough to believe you ?

I did proof it, look at your 109s see any FLIR, radar, MAD, or any other search sytems on them. No they not a set up for it. Useing your logic I can say the gripen in Saaf are martime strike aircraft because they are in sweeden where they arm them with air launched anti ship missiels.


So please show me I am wrong show me a nigerian helicopter set up in a ASW role.

agaugust:
i have proved you wrong and you now begin to confuse yourself, read what you wrote up there...augusta is not ASW, but it can be used for ASW...you will fail a school exam if you write this type of things andrewza. many people are reading your comment and they have read when i wrote about agusta above and the intelligent people know that i have given you a technical knock-out.


to help your limited knowledge i will tell you to google augusta military version, it carries some weapons your eyes cannot easily see internally inside called "internal armament pintle mounted". also note that some augusta versions have remove-able and re-fixable external hard points for weapons.

sweden navy has augusta ant-submarine vrsion with customized ASW hardware installed after purchase by SAAB who produces your grippen jet fighters.

philipines navy has augusta anti-submarine version customized for them, you google weblink http://gulfnews.com/news/world/philippines/philippine-navy-to-buy-anti-submarine-choppers-1.1144286.

belgium army has augusta helicopter 109 BA version specially customized for them alone as a tank-killer version and they were used two in mali military operation this week to help france. 6 european and american countries are helping france with heavy weapons in mali. nigeria is helping itself in mali, no foreign country support and we are doing fine with our weapons.

every rich country gets the type of augusta helicopter that it wants to have. that is the truth the whole world can see on internet for free.

nigeria has both the anti-tank version and anti-submarine versions of augusta helicopters, 20 of them we have, so stop posting lies about nigerian weapons okay ? try to limit your comment to what you know and sure about and stop confusing innocent people here.

second point is that you should show me the evidence that nigerian augusta has no ASW capability, since you are the one that bought it for us and you have the master key to open nigerian navy armoury and and inspect all the weapons hardware that nigeria has. so show us here what you saw inside nigerian navy and air force weapons storage and armoury. we are waiting for you....

it can be used for ASW in the same way you use a toyota hilux has a AT vehiecel (google the toyota war) but the 109 was never built to be a ASW platform and has i point out non of them have any search sytemts. Again look at the lynxe.

you do not have the ASW version you have a version that can operate at sea but it not a ASW version. Has i said you can use it but not the version nigeria is operating. Do you know what a pintel mount is, it is for a MG.

i told you it has zero navel search sytems and there is no proof it has any, again look at any modern ASW helicopter they all have some kind of sytem.


so please stop spreading lies, just because a 109 can do ASW dose not mean the ones Nigeria has that fuction in theres.

sheyie2007: LOL... you're uninformed, dawg... SA does this with no flaws
http://www.iol.co.za/business/business-news/fertility-rate-absent-in-data-1.1417203#.UR82iaPRa2c

Did I say we sis it with no flaws. But at least the data we if is correct and we don't suck info out out thumb. Any case from your source.


"Statistics SA says the fertility rate has still to be calculated. But, when it comes, it may do little to clear the confusion. In an explanation of the census process, the agency admitted that male fieldworkers did not feel free to ask questions on fertility and the relevant part of the questionnaire was often left blank."

We don't hide our misstakes. And the only problem is that we do not know why there is a rise.

Msauza: My friend go and make your research properly. Studying does not kill anyone, I understand it does give headaches sometimes. SA is more politically influential in Africa than Nigeria. SA is a member of G20, BRICS and IBSA and currently canvassing to occupy permanent seat in the United Nation's security council to have the right to veto should the UN organisation be restructured for proper representation. The former SA president Thabo Mbeki's influence in Africa is unmatched of any Africa leaders and his hard work and dedication to serving Africa has paid of by giving birth to South Sudan. When South Africa sneezes the rest of the continent catches the cold.

As to economy, that subject matter I won't touch as the whole world knows who is the economic giant in Africa and the most industrialised country thereof. We have won the seat of chairperson of AU through our political influence so much that other African countries, including Nigeria started complaining that SA want to neo-colonise and rule Africa. The parliament of Africa is here and our brands are all over Africa.

Militarily, everybody knows who fought the 23 years longest war in Africa that went into the annals of history without numbers on his side, but still managed to contain the most respected Cuban military at that time. I fail to understand when you make the mention that SA military is inexperienced. The truth is that our military is way far older than Nigerian Military period.

Culturally- Many Nations have read and even wrote exams about the history and culture of SA. Some Nigerians especially in their Nollywood movies have stole and even adopted the Zulu culture of Shaka Zulu and made it as if is their own. With the presence of Mandela in the equation, it has even made the culture of SA to reach far places. Nigeria will never compete with South Africa in that region, the name South Africa is a brand on its own and its a destination where everybody want to reach.

It is funny how nigeria thinks there oil focused economy is strong than ours and them fighting rebels and never a real army makes them more expercainced than us. I mean it is acctualy funny.

Wow I go to sleep and wake up to a school yard D.I.C.K measuring compitsion. I will just had. Nigeria is very bad at gollecting and releasing statistics and this is a fact.

SA has a lot of zenophibc crimes but has I recall Nigerians where not target in the riot.

agaugust: snydergp and andrewza, stop displaying your out-dated knowledge here because its a public forum and many people are reading it.

your lack of knowledge will not change the truth that is freely available on internet for the whole world to see. if you are lazy to do research on nigerian versions of augusta helicopters, i will post it to show your wrong information, then you can laugh at yourself. augusta 109 has more than 10 different versions and nigerian military has only the combat versions and 20 of the aircraft shared by nigerian navy and airforce. augusta 109 is being developed into new versions almost every year and you are ignorant of that fact. nigeria recievs versions of the helicopter up to year 2010, very modern versions with new types of hardware and sytem configuration.

you will just waste my time here but i will still post it over the weekend maybe by sunday night, photos and data of missiles, guns and rockets plus many radar types and etc that augusta carries.

if south african air force purchased utility and transport versions of auguata helicopter, then that is your own problem, nigerian military purchased the combat versions and they are much more expensive in dollars because of the extra hardware most of with are easily detachable and re-installable based on any need at each moment of time.

also you dont know that some helicopters dont use external hardpoints to carry weapons, there is internal weapons bay, and augusta has it. also, augusta has removable external hard points for weapons and you cannot see it unless the fix it and use it for combat, then they can take it away again and use the helicopter for other purposes, that is the modern world we live in today, but you and snydergp have lost track of new weapons configuration because your knowledge is sometimes out-dated and you will not listen to correction of your mistakes.

i will post photos and website information full details of many pages on agusuta helicopters weapons versions, and nigerian weapons versions with proof on this thread/forum, so that you will stop misleading other people with wrong information.

i will post by sunday night latest, i am busy with official assignment, i have a job that puts food on my table. dont waste my time again you south african guys. those nigerian military versions of augusta helicopters will kill south african military if war comes, okay ? period.

just see one photo below of an example of augusta helicopter with the removable hard point for weapons fixed on it, i will bombard this forum with very technical detailed information about augusta 109 miliatry versions before monday and i will silence you andrewza and snydergp, because you posted wrong information to deceive people here. nigerian military has 20 augusta helicopters specially build and equipped customized specs versions that carry missiles and bombs and rockets and heavy guns with radars and they will kill your south african forces when war comes.

i have many proofs, but first read one quote below from global security website and see where your knowledge failed woefully.
weblink :http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/europe/a109.htm

"The AW109 Light Utility Helicopter (LUH) has established itself as a best-selling military light-twin helicopter able to satisfy a wide range of military requirements.This ability to fulfil a wide range of missions makes the aircraft a true force multiplier, providing military commanders with excellent operational flexibility.

The AW109 LUH is a rugged helicopter with excellent ballistic tolerance, redundancy of systems and crashworthiness for maximum safety and survivability. Avionics include an advanced digital cockpit, based on 3 AMLCDs and a digital 4-axis AFCS. A vast array of advanced equipment including sophisticated sensors are available. The integrated Mission Equipment Package (MEP) includes day/night and IFR avionics for single or dual pilot operations with a four-axis digital Automatic Flight Control System (AFCS).

The availability of a wide range of mission equipment makes the LUH a real multi-role helicopter, able to perform all light helicopter roles including training, troop transport, medical evacuation, search and rescue, maritime patrol, observation, armed escort and anti-armour. In addition, the AW109 LUH can also be armed with rocket pods, machine gun pods, pintled mounted machine guns, anti-tank and air-to-air missiles.

The AW109 Power is a versatile aircraft that offers the highest level of benefits for government and military markets, combining optimum performance with cost-effectiveness. The Power’s flexibility allows it to perform a wide variety of missions for military forces"

infomation quote source : globalsecurity.org

if you south african military men dont understand simple english language to interpret the meaning of "wide range of military requirements, and wide variety of missions and operational flexibility" of nigerian augusta helicopters, then i dont know how your country can fight nigeria and survive.

The 109 is not a ASW helocopter. It may operate of a ship but just like when we operat a orxy from a ship it doese not become a ASW bird.


I never mentioned wepaons. I mentioned dedction sytems. Look at the front of the lynx in SAAF servises. You will see what I mean.

I never knew the 109 to have internal pay loads.

Yes the A109 can be used in ASW but your ones do not have any of the search sytems need. Any case when last has nigeria had a war game or any training vs a Sub.


You can go on and on about the 109 it is nothing knew. SAAF operats them. Where it can perform tasks such as light passenger and cargo transport, patrolling and reconnaissance, liaison and command, medical evacuation, light attack and antitank, escort and area suppression.

all4naija: That is what the world economy sees because it is the only thing the almighty America(owns the world economy) is largely involved in Nigeria. So, that will ring louder than any other sectors. That is the biased aspect of the whole issue.

No it because it your mosted traded producted and by a masive margine.

manny4life: Dude, I'm done with you.

I have to submit my reports so I can leave for the day. If you strongly believe OIL brings in all most of Nigeria's income, then you're fine to believe what you want. Don't get caught unawares. It pays to read reports from Nigerian economic agencies and their reporting. Then again, a biased mind isn't up for change so believe whatever you want... I can't stop you brother.

I am so GLAD that OIL which is a curse to Nigeria is gradually dwindling by demand, Nigerian govt had known the day will come, just not soon, glad they took proactive steps... Let the oil demand continue to dwindle, we'll continue to find improved ways to finally reduce our earning on oil, probably single digit.

It not what I bielve it was what all sources on your economy say. You are a oil based economy.

manny4life: I did not say Agriculture in general , you made emphasis on local farmers, for local consumption and not exports. Agriculture represents double digits (%) in our foreign earnings, if you think I lie, go to the CBN page and see for yourself.

No, it will not shoot up earnings, after all, a meager person here in the U.S. pays taxes, small scale farmers here pay taxes. Every where in Nigeria, people are either into poultry or fish/seafood farming. Taxing a 5% on your profit from million of Nigerians WILL NOT spur poverty. When the time comes, and we have set framework in place for that, I'm sure they know what to do.

70% of the popultion is in agriculuter. That a lot of missed out tax. And I say again Oil is what brings in all most all your money.

manny4life: What earnings? Seriously you need to quit, please. Your brother needs to call you to order.

Is earnings not revenues govt is getting such as fees, taxes, etc ? That the govt decides not to tax agricultural farmers as regular investment income doesn't make it small, so please quit it. If the govt was to tax EVERY activity in Nigeria, obviously, non-oil revenues will be much higher...

So you agree agriculter dose very littel to bring in money for nigeria. And you could tax it but you do know that would shoot poverty up. So basicaly agriculter dose very littel for your budget.

manny4life: Lol, if I don't understand what it is, don't u think I can at least look it up?

You see, bigotry and HATRED has blinded your eyes that you cannot see. You think there are ONLY local farmer in Nigeria, CONTINUE TO DECEIVE YOURSELVES. Go back to your report again, agriculture export was high... I will find it for you so you can READ...

Yes it high and employs 70% of your popultion of course it high. But it contrubits a rather low amout to your earnings

all4naija: If you have to call it intimidation for preventing foreigners from being abducted in the volatile region of Niger-delta clears your stance on this matter to be biased. Leaving the very fact that the government not the police directly was trying to protect the interest of the country from be soiled by foreign media who would interpret it for something else.

I am in no way saying Nigeria is a perfect country. I am saying even Americans would jail Nigerians who go to their nuclear facility taking photographs for whatever reason deemed fit. You are move by the fact that they are Americans and it is right to leave them to disobey the laws of the Nigerian land.

There is not much to compare when it comes to respect for foreigners in South Africa and Nigeria. The later out-beats the former and it is true Nigerians respect foreigners than their own people. That source of your information is way biased and you are here quoting them as fact.

Another thing, there is xenophobia well rooted in the South African system and that is evidence intimidation and brutality are bound to be a common place occurrences.

They where stoping the media. Any case if they want to get killed leet them. One less M.oron then.

The source was more informing amricans not to do those things. They got a padge for evey countrie. You could take pics of our nuclear sits just has long has you don't trespas on the site. Aka stay behind the fence.

Never said we where better than you in treating forghners. We very bad in that regaurd. My main point was that the cops in nigeria treat nigerians bad.

I just hapended to find that padge to respond to your post. Has just infomation. I don't support the views has such.

manny4life: I cannot school you, unfortunately, your graduate economic master should school you. If that's the case, American agricultural markets should all be regarded as "subsistence", I mean pretty much what America produces in agriculture is consumed, it doesn't mean they don't export BUT MAJORITY is consumed here in the almighty U.S.A.

Earner of what? Foreign exchange? You've used this term "earner" several times that I'm lost to what you mean. Earner of what exactly? Foreign exchange? Foreign exchange can be bought if you're wealthy so what earning are you talking about? Are you talking about foreign reserves? Reserves are nothing but savings, so what exactly is your point?

you don't under stand subsistence do you. It mans the farmer producers only enough for his basic survil and not much els.


That your money in your country comes from the selling of oil.

manny4life: School me? Lol, you need to school your man first.

Well, let me school you as well, since you mentioned GDP, there's the nominal and real GDP. You of all people should know that the real GDP reflects all economic activity that you've mentioned less inflation. So what are you on ranting about exactly?

GDP has four major components, for which you have mentioned most of it's sub categories, again, if the inflation has been adjusted for the nominal, so what are u ranting about?

According to your man's report, our export is indeed greater than our import, so for you to claim Nigeria doesn't export makes me doubt your graduate certification in economics...

Take away the oil and you bankrupt. 80% of your trad is oil. Do you not under stand that fact.

manny4life: If according to the report, our GDP is at $332 billion and agriculture represent 32%, do the math.

32% of $332billion, that means Nigeria produced and consumed $106 billion worth agricultural products, and you say it is Subsistence, would you have rather had Nigeria imported $106billion worth of agriculture?

Keep in mind, like I said again, we consume what we produce which isn't ENOUGH. By the time we've diversified, then we'll have enough to export, but for now, agriculture is sustaining us which is accounting for a huge chunk of our GDP though the article says we export our agriculture products... Read again.

Yes it Subsistence. Rember the fast majorty of your popultion is in the agricluter sectore making just enough for them selfe. Your biggest earner of in money is oil. Read the full reports and not what you want.

manny4life: Lol, now I know you barely can read.

They said it share of it's composition and here you are, misreading what they posted. Perhaps, you need to take a quick glance at the bar graph posted below

Agriculture ---> 33.4%

Industry -----> 34.1%

Service -----> 32.5%

I guess, if it's 80%, 80% + all these will be almost 180%, I thought % was on 100?

Apparently you missed that memo... Again, this is the GDP composition as of 2010 not the share of the components. Read again, this time, thoughtfully.

Here's the excerpt




Industry being the keyword. Now go back to the "industry composition" then look again

Did you read the part where it says most of that agriculter is Subsistence.

manny4life: Making what easy for you?

Come to think of it, your links actually supported my view ---> So what again did I make easy for you?

Did you read them. Over 80% of your GDP is based on on oil and 90% of your trade is oil.

70% of your popultion is doing agriculter but it not even yor biggest earner.

sheyie2007: deduct all the expenses you can ever think of, you won't meet my digits.. see, you know why I love this country, the system trained us to be dependent on ourselves, that's why this bit ch will produce more rich peeps on this planet till Jesus comes back...

Thing is I got a low paying job. Not poor but I am by no means even middil class. In terms of pay at least.

manny4life: NO, OIL isn't Nigeria's biggest contributor, besides, why are we talking about oil?

Now back to Nigeria's economy, Oil shrunk over the past few quarter fluctuation between 13 to 15% of GDP. It has NEVER surpassed that figure after Obj left power, about 10 years ago, perhaps, even more. Agriculture represent a whooping 45% of our economy, and that number is increasing quaterly while oil is shrink. What that means is that Nigeria is diversifying.

Who talked about separating yourself from the globe? My goodness, bros wake up because you're worn out. Like I said again, perhaps you have difficulty in interpreting what I'm saying, Nigeria is an more of an economy that pretty much consumes what it produces, with emphasis on "production" of GOODS. What that means is that Nigeria has a better buying power, just like the U.S, unlike China where a good chunk can't consume what they produce and have to depend on others to buy.

How does that translate into separating yourself from the world?

Nna man, I won't even continue with you... I'm done. For the record, stick to one issue, stop mentioning a whole lot of unwanted words that has no meaning to the discussion - first rule of a debate, stick to the point @ hand.

http://www.heritage.org/index/country/nigeria


http://www.infoplease.com/encyclopedia/world/nigeria-economy.html

http://www.economywatch.com/world_economy/nigeria/


You making it to easy for me.

manny4life: Lol, every country goods depends on global flux?


Are you really serious? You see why I said I won't argue with you, sincerely a waste of time... Go back and do Macro 101, then come back and check.

Let me educate for a min, goods and services depends on the "Laws of Demand and Supply", your demand and supply could be local/domestic, regional, or foreign, does not matter. For you to allude to



is just ignorance at its best...

Who talked about oil? I emphasized about "industrialization" or "manufacturing" and you're mentioning oil. Dude you're seriously lost, this is why I said arguing with you was gonna be a problem.

Oil is nigerias biggest contubitor to it's economy. And yes every countries economy depends on the globe. If you want to seperate your selve from the world go a head the USA tried that once. It ended in a great deprsion.

sheyie2007: thats 300k in NG...a bank cashiers salary here... I earn wayyy more boss..

That after my deductions and savings. And exludes all my befits such has 100% cover medical cover.

manny4life: A mixed economy BUT leaning toward liberalization? I'm not asking you not to dismiss it, but no matter how you spin it, the truths and facts will ALWAYS remains.

SA just like Europe or any other nations has a good number of industrialization depending on what it is, however, if your goods and services depend on fluctuations of the global economy, not even national or regional economy, then one this clear, that nation will not survive when there's limbo like now. This is what make Nigeria different from you guys or China different from the U.S..

China produces what it's citizens cannot consume, so do you guys, now reverse the equation, Nigeria or the U.S. produces what its economy has the propensity to consume. Though our production represents about 5% of our GDP, but at constant rate of consumption, what that means is that we're largely dependent on ourselves, we do not depend on global economy, thus, pushing our growth pattern as the best or second best in Africa and the project model says till 2025.

You may have stable and secured growth, no doubt, and I do not dispute it but as long as it's sustainable, the so be it. Yes, you may provide more to your citizens more than Nigeria, I believe in govt providing the basic and allowing fair play. I do not believe in FOOD STAMP programs and FREE FOOD with monthly allowance. I believe govt should provide basic necessities known to man and encourage it's citizens not to be lazy...

Sorry we a mixed economy have been for a long time. Every country goods and servis depends on global flux. Of course Oil is still needed and people will all ways choose the cheap option aka chinness goods. Hence china and nigeria less effected. You seem to have zero grasp of economics.

It's not food stamps like Amrica. We provide low cost housing, loans and land to upcoming farmers, protected the vunribil such has kids and the old extra extra.

tim107: Overtaking south africa is just a pipe dream 1millon naira= 3rand

Source please. Because that sounds wrong. Unless they like japan where every body gets insane pay checks.