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Msauza: Democracy does not allow soldiers to go around harassing citizens, if then it was the police, it wud have been better. Democracy limits powers of military within the confines of their bases. It is only during times of riots where presidents of democratic states will unleash military to stabilise the situation.

The SANDF is allowed to lend assestent to any goverment department so it not only in riots or other major civil actions but floods, anti poaching, border patrol extra or even building bridges in rural areas. The thing is though solders should never do poliece work even when solder deploy with cops they only there to bolster man power and a cop is all ways near at hand.

when i youtube search nigerian solders i get this


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpbycer1U3k


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8cUZxIjpbM

agaugust: rugby causes deadly brain damage, new medical problems in america now, people now see rugby as a killer. google it, its now a big cause of future brain damage. avoid it if you can.

that only because they suck at it.

gst101: it makes me laugh when i hear SAs say they cannot wear a Naija attire but they can put on their leopard skins like zuma does.

Zuma doesnt know fashion and thats why he wears canvass together with leopard skins. Thats not too suprising any way. Afterall, here is a man who says "TO CURE AIDS, JUST TAKE A NICE SHOWER AFTER SE.X".this guy exposed the flaw in you edu system big time.

I am going to post pics of attires of both countries and i will leave all of you to tell me which is more decent. If you SAs refuse to ans me, then you are not men.

the zulu people dont wear it every day only for important cultural occasions.

agaugust: football or soccer is the greatest sport in the whole world, and nigeira is always doing great in the most important things on earth, that is why we are more in the world news than south africa . nigeria fights bigger wars too like mali and liberia, but south africa likes easy and low level stuff like military action in central african republic where the world new has no interest. nigeria is always going for great things, south africa settles for lesser things .

I prefer sports for real men aka rugby

agaugust: Ah ! no wonder south Africans do a lot of nonsense talk and behavior, snydergp just informed us now that south Africa is a nation drunk with excess alcohol.

So your footballers are always drunk with alcohol and they lose the African nations cup playing at home in front of your south African president when a war damaged Mali was able to put south African football team inside the dustbin garbage.

though we do drink a lot that not the point. We all so a large exporter and many of our products are found in over seas markets.

sheyie2007: Namibia is in the southern region..

I know I was just saying it not in every country down south. Maybe we should start a a unfied SADC currency.

sheyie2007: Rand is legal tender in southern African countries.

Only in nambia but you can use it in some of other southern african countries.

gst101: he does know the meal and he knows the dresses otherwise he wouldnt have said it in his previous posts that "people will laugh at him should he wear those funy dresses"

They would. I just looked it up they not somthing a south african would wear.

Nigeria should be and could be the richest country in africa. But poor leaders prevent this from happning.

Blyss: Your last statement is false. Not only is it allowed, it's a staple now in law enforcement, as well as other areas of government for many parts of the US.

Cops don't arm there drones only milltary and CIA. Who are not allowed to operat stat side The use of drones in law enforment is very use full and for disaster manegemnt, border control, evirmentil conservation extra extra. But those are all survaliance drones not milltary drones.

gst101: thats where the difference between Nigerians and SAs is. That you dont care if you elite are cheating you, if they areshitting in your head and robbing in broad day light.

We here in 9ja dont take that from our leaders. And that you can confirm here on NL. At the begining of last year, our CBN gov, finance and petroleum ministers were forced by the masses to show up in a town hall meeting where they had to literally beg us to listen to them on the removal of the fuel subsidy. These are people who in the past will take dicisions unilaterally and say to hell with every one else.

But becos we refused to take shiit from them, one of our four mega refinaries is working 100percent. This is a promise they made at that meeting. The FG is unpresidentedly keeping its promises. Benefit of talking!

Now you talking about somthing else. I was talking about internal ANC matters that are only a conzern for ANC members, now you talking about actions that affect the country. We have had sinllar actions hapen but I will ask you this. If you so good at getting your leaders to listent to the people why is coruption so high, why do your eliet and goverment leaders run to other countries for health care, why do they abuse there power for personel gain. You should not talk lies.

gst101: how have you been able to export your culture out of your borders with those movies?

As for the traditional nigerian dress and food, your msauza mentioned Agbada some where in previous pages. He also know of fufu and egwusi as well as pounded yam.

I am sure he eats it, you can go to his house if you want to know it. And pls be careful so that he doest "kill the boer" lol

Rand is legal tender in nambia and botswaina, lestho, swaziland, have teid the currency to the rand. Only to currency are accepted in zimbawe US dolar and the Rand.

Knowing the name does not mean you know the meel. I know amrica has grit. People don't wear tradtional clothes of nigeria in sa that I know.

cap28: no its because south africa's natural resources are already owned by european and american multinational corporations and banking interests.
Take for example Anglo America plc - the world's largest producers of platinum - its a british owned multinational.

SA laws means they all of major SA ownship. And there are a masive amount of local even fully black owend companys in SA. So again keep your facts straight. So we a lot better at keeping how resoures in house than nigeria. Tell me who drills your oil sells it then refines it and sells back to you. Nigeria being robed and having it stolen propertie sold back to it again.

And what about Zim who all so ritch in resoures no africom, angola, nambia, extra extra.

AFRICOM is not down south here. May be it because those above are lead by spineless sell outs.

cap28: No offence mate but you are not an african - your culture is not an african culture, i don't care whether it is different from european culture, afrikaans has its roots in dutch which is not an african language.

a black person whose ancestors were kidnapped and enslaved in north america is not there of his own volition and therefore has a right to call himself an american - especially given the fact that his/her ancestors built north america. if you people had any respect for black africans (which you don't) why did yoiu introduce a law that stipulated that black south africans could not go beyond a primary school education, remember Verwoerd said that there was no point in educating blacks beyond that point as they would not be able to use the education for anything as their designated place in south african society was that of a servant ie to serve whites forever - do you rememember that quote?

De Klerk gave up power because the economy of south africa was being threatened by the violence and mass boycotts spearheaded by the ANC - he did not give up power voluntarily.

You were at war with Cuba who sent troops to angola to dislodge your fellow racists who were doing everything possible to keep in place a similar aparthied system in angola - you also knew that a nuclear weapon would give you the upper hand against any other black african countries who might want to fight on the side of the ANC to dislodge white minority rule from south africa

Have you ever compaired the dutch and afrikanse culture. Because if you have you would see they nothing alike.

And nigerians all ways like to cliam it was not the blacks in sa who built it but the whites. Any case the black amricans where given a chance to return to africa. It called liberia and they ruined it. Any way find one eurpean country that sees white south afrikanse has there people


SA was surving the boycots for a long befre 19990.

Actualy it was to stope the spread of comunasiam. The other threat.

Pehapse you should not talk about what you do not under stand. I mean I am more african than you.

cap28: the legacy of those measures are responsible for the inequality that exists in south africa today.

years of aparthied has created generations of black south africans with limited education and a lot of bitterness - if i were a black south african i would feel bitter too when looking back at how my parents and grand parents were disenfranchised in their own country.

white south africans still see themselves as europeans this is why they speak afrikaans and english - if they saw themselves as africans they would do away with their own language and culture.

they are not africans just as a black person born in europe is not a european

also whites did not decide to share the country with blacks - they were forced to do so as a result of sustained challenges from the ANC and the fear of an impending race war in which they would have sustained loss of valuable property and lives.

Did you know prior to the end of white minority rule the israeli's were helping them to build a nuclear weapon? why do you think they were doing that?

Yes but you not a south african.

What. Our cultur both afrikans and english is diffrent to any european culture. I mean why should we get rid of our langue and heriage when it all ready african.

But a black persone born in amrica is? That is doubil standard. We have been jere for 100s of years.

Deklerk gave up power after asking the people if they wanted to end aparthied. There was major threat of a uprising in the 1990s

SA's nukes where fully south african. And where built in mid to late 1970s. The resoane. We where technicaly at war with the USSR and warsaw pact and we where at war with cuba and angola. The nukes where incase things went bad.

cap28: more excuses for US africom to deploy their troops on to nigerian soil.

Yanks won't care until a yank ends up dead.

tyson55: Shouldn't the company or whoever employed them in that volatile northern Nigeria have provided them with enough security?
Or are they ignorant of the fact that the area is infested with Islamist fundamentalists ( Boko haram and their ilk)? SMDH!

The securty gaurd was killed.

Blyss: Actually the vast majority of the American drone fleet is used over North America (including the US), and Europe. About a year ago I watched a show in which one of the operators of these drones admitted to the fact of that sometimes they actually zero in on and place on lock random vehicles driving down the highways right here in the US with armed drones, as a means to help train the operators on how to do so when in a real engagement.

That not really a big deal. Not like they going to shoot. I mean naval ships have targeted civlian ships before with there fire control sytems. Of course the wepaons are not ready to fire they just lock on and civlian ships don't have any EW so don't even no they targeted. And drones can not be used over populted areas in amrica or europe.

gst101: stop trying to justify what cannot be justified. Every attemt you make is unsuccessful. Dont you have an independent constitution like we have in nigeria? Any country whose constitution is respectful of the ruling party cannot be said to be more developed than ours. We are a more developed democracy, fact!

SA has the best writen constion in the world and a court who's only job is to make sure it is followed. And I am not jussterfying any thing. ANC can do what they like concerning there internal matters.

gst101: it is good to know that all these exist in word and that we have not killed anyone for being gay or raped anyone for being lesbian.

That we know about.

gst101: my dear, thats what i am saying. Why should the internal problem of a party becom national issue? It goes to show you are a one party stat! Such a thing cannot happen in nigeria. One party has a problem and it becomes a national issue So that your prssident is sacked by a more powerful man? And you call that democracy? And you want to compare your democracy with ours where the powerful OBJ couldnt have his way with his third term agenda.

You do the rulling parrty is 3 groups in one ANC, COSATU and SACP. And since they the rulling party it matters.

gst101: no! We dont want to criminalize them. It is their marriage we are criminalizing. We believegay people are humans and we should show love to them thats why we cont 'corrective' rape them. We are more educated we knoww that raping them isnt going to change anything. This cannot be said of south africa where due to ignorance such same things go on.

Tell that to the northners. Acctualy even people fron the south hat all gays and would prever them dead. SA law protects gays and those that caught doing so called correctve rape are punshed.

gst101: about cultural imperialism.
Nigeria cuisine is all over the continent, fact!
Nigerian attire is all over the continent, fact!
Nigerian languages, slangs etc is all over the continent, fact!
Nigerian movies are not trying to win oscars so we are at liberty to create our own kind of movies. Movies a people can see and relate to. And that is the pure discription of originality. We can not say the same for SA.
This nigerian influence is beyond africa. It is in the carribean, fact! Where is SA culture? Pls tell me. Dont just say rubbish. show me with facts.

Maybe in west africa but not down south. I mean what is tradtionl nigerian food and dress. And we make hollywood movies in sa. Lord of war had many parts shot in SA. Judge dredd is all SA the british tv serries seseoan 1 was half SA and seseson 2 was all SA, safe house was set in SA and filmed in SA, blood diamonds had many seceans fimled in SA should I go on.

gst101: @ SAs, who told you nigeria isnt a developed democracy? What is the def of democracy? In it, you will find govt of the people. We have had election results cancelled in nigeria and incumbents replaced. We have had incumbents loose in an open election. All of that signify a good democracy.

The fact that we criticize our govt shows we have freedom of expression and no one is afraid to air out his own view. Thats democracy for you.

You cannot say the same for an SA where an incumbent will have problems with jacob zuma and the next thing is he gets sacked from his office. This means that jacob zuma is like a demi god in SA. You cant tell me that is democracy, can you?

What you talking about. If it is internal ANC matters it is internal ANC. The ANC can run them selves how ever they like. The fact is even if zuma wins a second term it will be his last since In SA you can only be presdent for 10 years or 2 terms.

gst101: also we do not cdo 'corrective' rape of lesbians.

No you just want to crimnolise them. I pretty sure most in the north would want to stone them.

gst101: absolute false hood

Really. Many orginstions have struggeld to put accuret reports out on nigeria because of no data.

agaugust: look well before you post comment andrewza, nigerian accurate statistic from same source is compared to south african in point number 5 above in my comment posted, and we nigerian's do NOT r.ape innocent new born babies


R.ape of new born babies regularly every day, is the special art of which Satan-Devil newly donated to south african HIV infected men to make them the most evil men in the world.

all south africans on this nairaland internet forum should bow down their heads in shame because your country has disgraced africa internationally, especially here in USA where i live as a black man, you really disgraced us, an american white man mentioned that your everyday crime of new born baby R.ape in my office, i felt so ashamed as a black man.

Accurate has in trusted. Do you really trust the nigerian goverment to tell the truth. In SA there are a number of orgonistions and departments all mointring and gathring info. If the cops realse wrong info people will loose there jobs.

Sagamite: Trust me. They are all the same animals just with different uniforms and weapons.

The state of Nigeria gives guns to moronic social misfits and these are the results we get.

It is like handing the Justice Ministry to Julius Malema and then expect a intellectual, fair and progressive judicial system.

That last part made me laugh so hard I all most wet my self. Sad part is it true. So glade the ANC gave him the boot. And know I hear he has run out of money.

You do know we one of the only african country to realse accurate crime statistics. Nigeria is not part of that rather small club.

Sagamite: They are all the same bunch of animals!

I have heard bad stuff about your cops but they still better suited for interacting amoug civlians.