₦airaland Forum

Lol blys complaining about border control when a candain could just walk over the boarder. Boarder control is a very hit and miss afare and has a lot of luck in it.

The front line states where never a threat to SA(not even now) we routinlly violated there air space, bombed targets and even launched full blown raides.

All so you should understand. In poltics you need to strok Egos.

And I still ask. Nigeria who had been inpendent since the 1960s never once in it's history deployed her milltary.

souldust: @msauza i already told you i cant hep you. It is really tru that you can only force a horse to the stream but cant force it to drink. What henry said to snyder can also be extended to you. You shouldnt be seen close to what looks like a school since it is a waste of time and resources. Afterall its not possible to educate a lunatic.

@henry, that blyss fellow is a black american who has a false image of himself.

@snyder, we have other riffles and i have seen the DSS with it before. Its unfortunate i cant post pics of it.

We have seen them. DSS is not military they a paramilitary intelligent unit.

people act like think America has a gun problem. while lets look.

https://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k247/dhm1353/Abort1.png

Henry120: Are you going to pay for the change in rifle?? Perhaps I should making my demands. We need the G36c assault weapon or the belgium-american made SCAR rifle. Why fix it when it's not broken.

The SCAR is not a good rifel. The G36 dose not like dusty battels. Eg Africa.

A better option is to get the AK100s (AK101 to be presise)

Blyss: Yeah, yeah, yeah... tell me another story, but before you do, I'm gonna tell you this. Fuock with their supply of gold, Platnium and whatever else they get from you people down yonder, and I'll assure you that they'll be down there to put their foot in your azz.

No they won't.

Henry120: Mali

Nice photos.

That road block looks very undefended.

Henry120: Andrewza, please in english. I can hardly comprehend what you are saying. If I understand you correctly, why did the SSS have to go tactical instead of using the military or police?

Necessity demanded it. The SSS still carries out joint opps with the military, but in high profile cases the SSS use their tactical teams, they also have a special squad in the tactical team, STING OPPs team.

you got the meaning of my post.

Any case it is still strange.

all4naija: Bollocks!

And why

sheyie2007: Do you know the number of french soldiers there, let alone soldiers from other countries? Nigeria has ample soldiers to deploy I just don't see the need anymore.

non have been reported to have taken part in combat yet.

snydergp: SA has six different intelligence agencies and a oversight committee in order to protect civilian privacy and the misuse of state agencies for ulterior motives other then security.
-NICOC
-SANDF (military intellegence)
-NIA (national intelligence agency)
-SAPS (police intelligence)
-NIS (national investigating agency)
-SASS (secret service)

All of these were reformed after apartheid and relaunched in 1995 already. Nigerian SSS was formed in 2009 merely three years ago yet u claim its has more experience and more efficient than SASS which has over 60 year history.

Don't even talk about pakistan ISI because even there own goverment has publicly admitted that there intelligence structures has been compromised by al-queida and in the past.

Can u please tell me how u came to the conclusion that ur SSS is better and who rated u as number 1 on the continent when u only have a 3 year service history, compared to others in SA, Egypt, Algeria and Morocco who has far more experience than SSS.

By infiltration I mean that ur SSS should've joint the ranks of BH along time ago and destabilize it within. The SASS has foiled a number of attempts by foreign and domestic complots. No agency is the best but there are many with a better track record in africa and abroad that is better then SSS and no matter how u try to change facts just to make u feel proud u can not run away from the fact that the Nigerian SSS has failed many times in respecting there duties as a agency.

well said but it is NIA not NIS

Henry120: The SSS is an intelligence agency, with the tactical unit only formed recently. There are different departments, with non overlapping.

Why. If any of out Int agencies need a tactical team they use the police(internal) or military(external) it rather strange for them to be so militant.

snydergp: On that bolded statement I strongly disagree because there ur SSS is not the best nor does it feature in the top 20 or top 40 in the world for that matter.

Your SSS has grossly failed in there task to infiltrate BH even within ur own border which has led to serious "terrorist" problems. There are even reports of BH "infiltrating almost every security service in Nigeria". If ur SSS was as good as they claimed they should've detected the BH and other threats before they became a national emergency.

SA also had its fair share of terrorist activities even a few bombs which was planted in some areas in order to create Chaos to destabilize the country and to a civil war between white minorities, but our SASS quickly stopped the socalled "boere mag" and other smaller affiliated groups including the seizure of large amounts of weapons enough to start a small war in most african nations.

SA even recently apprehended several DRC nationals for plotting yet another waring front in DRC.

Secret Services are there to prevent and protect possible national, regional threats including the protection of a nations strategic interest and should not react after threats has already affected the nation, something which can not "always" be said of the Nigerian SSS in there strategic tasks. Your SSS is a far cry from being where, needs to be.

Yes I agree 100% about the fact that we should set a side our differences for the greater good of africa.

SA intelgent servis are a lot diffrent from nigerias SSS. There SSS is just another parmiltary force. You never ment to see a spook ever.

Henry120: There are over 9000 private security companies in SA. I'm sure CSS tactical rings an alarm. There is also a subsidiary of uk's G4S private security firm( one of the worlds largest private security firms) in SA.

Petrus van nievark is the chief executive of protea coin.

April 2011- march 2012, SA recorded

15,609 murders
64, 514 sexual offences
101,203 cases of aggravated robbery

I'm not here to incite , I'm just been direct. you lot( SA nationals) know those are not figures to be proud of. Even we in nigeria, who are currently battling an ins urgency in 3 states in the north( borno, yobe and kano) do not have casualty figures as high as that. Since the ins urgency in nigeria started in 2010-present, 3000 nigerians (may their souls rest in the bosom of the lord) have lost their lives, again nothing to be proud of, but we can see clearly that SA murder rates dwarfs that of nigeria.


The nigerian military is a highly professional, highly trained force , with the ability to adapt swiftly to ever changing warfare. Prior to 2010 the military, nigeria did not have any knowledge in battling extremism and islamic in surgency, but today even our greatest detractors can attest to the fact that we have been able to develop a new manual and have been able to curb the insurgency in the north. It takes tact. Using the best available equipments, including nigerian designed space technology to help us deal with the problem.

Nigeria's secret service/police, SSS or DSS, I would rank them as the best in africa, and at least in the top 20 bracket in the world. Those guys, men and women in the field and offices have done really really well. It is a model agency and a pride of our nation. Un equalled, and a model for other nations to copy.

That point been said I think nigeria has got a lot to learn from SA, in the same vein SA has got a lot to learn from nigeria. It would be in our very own interest to shun the constant bickering against each other and develop a continent that we can all be proud of. All africans black, white, mixed, indian and arab.

SA has no unit along the SSS/DSS. Our intelgent servises do not operate a parmiltary force. Our poliece do have a number of speciol units

The flying squade(they drive but in high perfomence cars such has M3's) are the polieces rapid responce unit and normally the first to arrive at a shooting in progress

Then there is the station level rection units. Basical a SWAT type team that get called out to major problems.

National intervetion unit (NIU) a larger swat type unit. They operate at major events, perform high risk arrests extra

Task Force. The best swat unit in african and one of the best in the world. The do hostage rescues, high risk arrests, VVIP protction extra extra. They only police unit where every member is a qulfied paratrooper with many caperbil of doing HALO jumps.


During the border war we had Koevoet who where the most heavly armend poliece unit in africa. All so I know of no other poliece unit that could call in air stikes. They where disolved after the war.

Henry120: @Syndergp, you purposely left out the fact that the reason SA army are all in their barracks, unlike the army in nigeria who are in the streets, is because SA has a large private security industry, totalling over 400, 000 security personnel. Well above the army and police in number combined. heavily armed with semi-automatic weapons and hand guns and ballistic vests. That is a huge number. In nigeria we do not have armed private security firms/ contractors.

It is a deliberate misinformation on your path, and I expect you to do the honourable thing and re modify your statement, adding the fact stated above.

How is it misinfomation. Solders are not ment to do poliece work. And these securty companys are regulated and do jobs that nither the milltary or poliece should need to do. Such has protecting banks, gaurding money truks, some are even imployed by the goverment to protect trains, and even Koeberg extra. These baby sitting jobs could be done by the milltary and even the poliece but are a waist of skills and man power.

Blyss: LOL, yeah.. we are all witnessing how well organized your shallow African regional organizations are right now as the US and France set up shop right in your (Nigeria) back yard via Mali and Niger, after such moves were agreed upon by ECOWAS states to not allow to take place. This is all just talk on my part, but I'm just pointing out just how easily a nation can be cracked out of an agreement in one of these blocks as you call them, but I say loos alliances.

I am a South African not Nigerian. If ECOWAS want to sell out that is there problem.

Blyss: Force? Nah, not necessary. Just the right means at the right time. I like the Gabonese people, I've not met many but of those I've had the pleasure of meeting, I can tell you that they are very much the type of gracious and levelheaded people that'll take on such a historical offer when the time is right, for the benefit of their nation and the Diaspora who seek an independent nation in Africa. It's a wonderful location for such a partnership to take place on the continent.

Only problem is just about every regional power and sub regional power will tell them not to do it. Gabon is located close to the sourthern african power block. We do not want forghin influnce down here (notice no forghine milltary bases) and we are much more united than any other regional block in Africa. A untied effort by SADC will prevent any thing of this nature.

Blyss: Several reasons in which I care not to discuss.

So none then.

Blyss: Gabon and the ROC.

And why would either agree to this deal.

Revolva: woow na wa oo ...the system just pardorned him jare white folks..if oscar were to be a blac man ..omo na hanging straight ....na dem sabi ...lie lie lawyers and white on white crime...

He was not pardoned. It was a bail hearing. The trail is yet to start.

Blyss: CAR and DRC are not the only nations in the region you know. There's one in which I believe would be a much more willing participant.

Name one.

morpheus24: They refused her visa

lol

Nsikelelo: dude the Khoisan and san people are not bantu,bantu is the term used for the groups that speak the Nguni languages,Zulu,Xhosa,Ndebele and Swati.Those people are the bantu people

And your point is.

Tropilo: Pisterous is lucky that the lady is white. If she had been black, SA would have had a very bad case in its hands. The country by now would have become another Syria or at best present day Egypt.

I doubt it.

Some nut job afrikanar took a rifel and started to kill black people in a township. There have been few other cases where whits killed blacks. Not to mention the boermag terrorists who had a briefe boming campaighn.

safarigirl: Post-apartheid South Africa na wa.

So he was granted bail, because he's Pistorius or because he's 'white' Pistorius. If a black man had committed said crime, even if sef na you be Zuma, dem no for grant bail o. Na dem know themselves sha

He was granted bail because the state could not proove he was a flight risk.

Blyss: Your probably right, but I think that it might be possible, based on the number of wayward governments on that continent and discontented ethnic citizens under their rule. A financial and economical offer to a backward gov. body likely wont refuse in connection with a favorable offer of a much better life, to a select people on a select piece of land under the rule of such a gov. With the proper angle and presentation from the AA side, it'll be fruitful. I'm not talking about some huge swath of land, even a small piece, say the size of Sierra Leon, hell even the size of Lesotho or Swaziland would do for reference. Arid land is ok as well, as long as it's connected to the coast or main water source, the nation will simply arrogate it.

You seem to think you just need to buy it from one african country. Let's say you tried that with the DRC and they accepted. I doubt any of the other counties in the region would a nor would there citzensens. Any goverment that sold the land would not be in power long enough to sighn the pappers. I know if my goverment tried that I would be bound by my Code of conduct. Any SA presdent that dose that will be a threat to the people and country and would not last long.

Only problem the patriotic whits don't real leave. Most of those who do leave are the racist once who are worse than the current westerners.

Some people don't under stand bail. He is not a fight risk I mean he is a rather famous persone so it not like he can just leave the country with out some one knowing who he is. He is still on trail and has yey to stand before the court concering the murder.

The army was in the wrong. It was a poliece road block if you feel they should let you pass get on that thing called a radio

Blyss: Sure, no problem. Once the land is handed over the Afrocentric and the non-Afrocentric will both help in that process, from an independent Black-American nation. Any natives whom live on the obtained land can stay in the new nation as full fledged citizens, but other outsiders may obtain citizenship upon very limited circumstances, this doesn't mean that you cant come and visit, or do business there, but rather simply that you can't obtain citizenship. I don't see why you'all are so against this.

I am not against it (I am not for it) I just don't think it will work. Firstly no african coutry will seed you any land to form a nation. Your chosen area is a hot bed for rebels. I don't think you fully understand how much logistcal suport you will need for this.
Nor do you relize how bad the infustructor is in central africa.

Basical your plan is beyond just stupid.

MsDarkSkin: African americans are the laughing stock of the US? Says who exactly? And where do u think africans fit in lol. if you want to go by white standards (as u clearly have) and statistics then its fair to say africa is the laughing stock of the globe. No?

And btw where did u get the idea that AAs wanting an independent nation to mean they think they are better than africans? Please explain this because it makes no sense to me.

Also riddle me this: since when was nigeria in central africa??

If u are talking about blyss personally then i can understand But what many of you accuse AAs of as a group, also apply to u in the end: being white washed, being judgmental, and thinking irrationally.

But anyway its like someone said its not real nor will it happen. I dont even know why blyss even made the thread tbh....more important i dont even know why i replied. Lol.

God took us out of africa for a reason at the end of the day. Makes no sense to try and force the issue.

The OP mentioned the DRC. And that is in centrial africa.