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Soknown:
As I have said before on this platform, the whole world can do with a lot of positivity and encouragement right now.
I rest my case here.

I appreciate your comment.

I was in a covid ward with 4 other patients. We were all suspected cases, as the results weren’t out yet. That ward had 1 nurse and 2 carers. I worked in care as a student and normally you’d have 1 night nurse to 14 or more residents. This nurse had just 5 and didn’t enter the ward throughout the night shift until it was close to handover time. My drip finished and started pulling my blood out (I stopped it myself), I wasn’t given my painkillers that were due every 4 hours. The other patients rang to pee and poop and no one answered.

That nurse promised to care for patients, but decided to discriminate against disease. And you want me to celebrate her as a hero? You want me to celebrate the nurses that turned their backs on patients when they realised they were posted to the covid ward even when PPE was plenty?

Then what would I do for the ones that were brave enough to care for us?

Mellady:
You have a very nasty attitude, can you please pause for a moment and appreciate the efforts of all health workers and stop judging them. If it pain you too much, maybe you should go back to school and get a health care degree so that you can become a hero and save lives, but before then just keep your insensitive opinions to yourself. If you don't have anything nice to say to health workers, then keep your mouth shut

I have nothing nice to say about health workers?
You’re gifted in selective reading. You somehow missed the post where I praised health workers but focused on my criticism of the fact that health workers are running away from treating/curing.

One sweet fact about this virus is that even if you don’t catch it in the hospital, you’ll still catch it in a shop or from your kids. It’s more honourable to at least catch it while doing your job- so you’d go down as a hero, not a coward.

Truth dey pain sha- I’ve said my own; take or leave.

Uglyduckling:
Okay ma. We have heard. We are too greedy for money and refuse to work. From tomorrow I’ll start working for free sef. I won’t even use my pseudo PPE since we took an “oath” to die.

It’s even good. If you don’t, you’ll catch it and sit at home. Or maybe you’ll fall sick and be admitted, then no horse will attend to you because they don’t have PPE. They won’t change your drip even when your blood flows out, they won’t even give you water to drink- cos no PPE.

I said you took an oath to die? Pls show me where I wrote it because it’s as if we need to fix your reading skills.

salford1:
They are beyond ridiculous. They completely goofed. WHO inclusive.

There are people with tons of N95/FFP2 masks stockpiled at home while patiently waiting for a zombie apocalypse. The far east Asians especially were busy buying all the mask in Canada anyways while the government kept telling us that masks were useless, while they were also contradicting themselves about how well mask protects frontline workers.

They should have just told people to use/buy cotton mask or home made ones to reduce spread of infection and also beg those stockpiling for the apocalypse to leave the medical grade ones for healthcare workers.

The US CDC is now considering recommending cotton/toilet paper/homemade mask to the public. They are like 2 to 3 months late. Well better late than never.

After all this Covid wahala, the healthcare ministers on western countries should be in touch with Asians on how to prepare for a an epidemic or the bigger brother pandemic.

I read the comment here from someone about how the govt have abandoned health workers and how they don’t even want to follow guidelines. Me I’m not surprised because it’s not today that they started being rubbish. What I’m hoping for is that people see the sacrifice that their nurses and doctors were willing to make for them, and fight the govt for more investment into the NHS.

Babyvet:
So because of your bad experience at the hospital, you are now castigating other health care workers. That is the result of your lovely socialized NHS system.

Oh so now you’re ready to talk like an adult shey?

Go through my comments, not once did I castigate health workers, I’ve been praising them. I am only after the ones that ran away from what their duty (which is to treat people irrespective of disease).

It’s my stupidity that made me believe that health workers are meant to be heroes, thanks to your comments, I’ve learned the opposite.

Lexusgs430:
Have you ever wondered why the Nurses simply ignored the buzzer?

If adequate PPE equipment was provided, would they ignore the buzzer?

We're are also Hooman Beans.........

Hospitals are different, maybe yours you guys don’t have enough, or maybe by now it’s finished, but I assure you, there was enough protective equipment at the hospital that I was in. They even gave me some to take home. The nurses just refused to help out.

It was the black ones that we’re running around to help us. They were fearless. I so respected them. That’s why I’m disappointed to see what I’m seeing here because I’ve been boasting about the foreign/black nurses that put their passion first, over the Brit nurses that abandoned us.

cuteguy201:
Babyvet, Babyvet...
Any thread you enter in this travel section, we would sha notice you. You're doing well, oooin!

Lemme grab my popcorn

Even me too, I have grabbed popcorn. I like drama

Lexusgs430:
Madam, i love a good discuss. Because it brings out both sides of the coin......

If i told you hospital managers are gagging COVID19 soldiers (that's what we are), from speaking to the press about inadequate PPE's?

What would you say? And why are they gagging or attempting to gag?.....?

Let me even give you gist.

While in admission in the hospital, I had my drip on and I was sharing the room with the amputee. The amputee started crying, after ringing the bell for nearly two hours because she wanted to pee and no one was there to help her into the commode. I got off my bed, with no protection, and pulled my drip towards her bed, I didn’t care if she had the virus or not, I was desperate to help her.

The only reason I stopped was because it occurred to me that I could also have the virus and infect her. That’s when I went and started banging on the door for someone to come and help.

Me that I was terribly sick, had drip and oxygen hooked on, I have a med condition, I’m not a nurse, I was willing to risk my life to save someone I don’t know, I’m ashamed to hear health workers tell me opposite.

Lexusgs430:
Please let's not insult ourselves...... Thank you....

Me, insult who? Naa mate, I know the kind people I dey fight. Can’t roll in the mud with pigs. That one no reach my level at all

Like you said, it’s a discourse. I’m not even angry at all the name calling because that’s what I expect from people beneath me

Lexusgs430:
Madam, i love a good discuss. Because it brings out both sides of the coin......

If i told you hospital managers are gagging COVID19 soldiers (that's what we are), from speaking to the press about inadequate PPE's?

What would you say? And why are they gagging or attempting to gag?.....?

My point is two wrongs don’t make a right. The management and government are ridiculous. We know. The reason people came out to clap is because they see you as hero’s. Do you know what a hero is? Someone that’s willing to fight for others, even though they risk themselves.

Hopefully when this cools down, people will fight against the government to improve healthcare. At least now the govt can see the importance of the NHS.

Babyvet:
Abeg no mind am, as health care workers we did not up sign up to die . These first world countries are not protecting their front line workers. A young healthy nurse just died in New York due to lack of PPE. There are pictures of people working at his hospital wearing trash bags as protection and America is supposedly the greatest country in the world .

Yes you signed up for the money that’s why you don’t understand the concept and being a hero. How shameless! The real docs that know what they got employed for are probably spitting at the kind of health workers that are now in the field.

When you see my comments, just ignore- I don’t interact with fair-weather medics that only love their job when the going is good.

Lexusgs430:
My hippocratic oath, did not tell me to fight an AK47 war, with a bread knife..... Or did it?

My employer owes me a duty of care, ensuring that i am adequately protected, while discharging my duties......

The government failed massively in protecting medical practitioners. That tissue paper they call face masks, some trust managers would tell you, you can use one tissue mask for a duration of 4 hours 30 minutes...... Or don't overuse PPE, considering cost vs life.....

It took over 30,000 of us, to sign and send a letter to the PM & Minister of health, before they eventually agreed to ramp up on purchasing of proper PPE's purchasing and agreeing to testing frontline practitioners........

I pity the nurses on the wards, they are looking after suspected COVID19 patients and active COVID19 patients, with surgical gloves + tissue masks + very thin plastic aprons.......

Madam, pls don't get me started..... I don't like typing plenty............

Lexus I’m not fighting with you people. I understand the sentiment which is probably why you’re vexing. What you’re saying to me is if your house is burning and your kids are trapped, the fire fighters should stand and be looking at you because they haven’t been provided with amenities. Might as well scrap the fire service, let’s know that there’s no fire service.

Again, I have always supported petitions requesting for the govt to support the NHS, which is why i hate the tories.

Finally, just so you know, if all nurses and docs stop working, people will die and if your family mistakenly catch it, be rest assured that no one would also save them.

LuvlyIva:
I am not desperate to be in UK but desperate to be with my wife to start babies. family. We are not getting younger

I support everything Dusty has said to you. You don’t sound desperate to be with your wife, you sound desperate to move. Someone that loves his wife would be worried about her health, but you haven’t shown concern towards her health..

Anyway, that’s your marriage. Pls Ignore me. I don’t know why someone else’s marriage is annoying me

thiagoteres:
In addition to what soknown said , it appears ur wife has a medical condition that makes her high risk in this covid era.
I have colleagues that been asked to shield at home for next three month so they don't catch anything.
Relax ur mind , be supportive and pray this drama ends soon.

Thanks so much for saying this. I was quite shocked at his nonchalant comment about her health; Man that’s supposed to be going mad and begging wifey to protect herself!

LuvlyIva:
Hello house trust u guys are keeping safe? Please I need y advice I am confused. I and my wife remarried this year in Nigeria, she left to UK and promised applying for me when she gets bk, just for her to call me and said that the hospital she works is not allowing agency, that government said that agency is cheating on govt and not paying their taxes. So I asked her what she wants to do, she said she wants to start full permanent job by March and I have to wait for six-months for her to fill my papers. I said ok. Just for me to ask her yesterday, she told me that she is not working, staying at home bc of the covid. I was confused. She said some of her colleagues are affected with the virus, so I don't know if she is scared to go to work or because of her sugar problem. I am confused. How can she bring me to UK if she is not working. Kindly advise me. Thank you.

I’m concerned at how you’re more worried about yourself coming here than how she’s surviving being a contractor and not even working at the moment (meaning she’s not getting paid). Hahahahaha worse still, she’s got a sugar problem, shouldn’t you be happy that she’s not even working?

Anyway, Her plan of being a perm to bring you here is the best option for you. You just have to wait for things to die down, get a perm job and wait 6 months. Her reason for not wanting to be a contractor is valid, although the govt have changed their mind on contractors for now, however the fact that she won’t earn this month will affect your application anyway.

So wait on your wise wife.

Lexusgs430:
I would rather prefer not to get infected, if adequate PPE's are provided.........

Does your employer provide you, the best tools to practice effectively and safely?

Yup. So the fight is with the govt, for not providing you with what you need, as that’s their responsibility. But saying you won’t treat patients because you’ve not be protected by a failed govt, is failing your patients who you promised to protect and swore you were passionate about, when you became a medic.

Anyway, I’m not talking about you per say. When I was in the hospital, I saw how well equipped the workers were- their eyes were even protected. Still nurses turned down the jobs and left a poor diabetic amputee to pee and shit on herself because the nurse didn’t want to work with a covid patient. Who’s worse between that nurse and Boris?

DisGuy:
Soldiers sign up to protect the country not to fight wars... if they die? a bit crude but hey

doctors sign up to treat people not to get infected- Especially if something can be done for them to get as much protection from the virus as possible-if they all fall sick, what will happen to the rest of us?

Exactly. My point is that none signed up to die, they signed up for other reasons but death/infection is a risk.

We need to protect them. Thats why I’ve been sensitising the public to stay home and treat. I should have remained in the hospital but I insisted on being discharged. If everyone can stay home and not contract it or stay home and treat it, we are less likely to infect our first line of defence (medics).

That being said, what you said goes both ways. If they don’t fight to save people, it may still spread and catch their family. That’s why soldiers defend their country; if they don’t, it will into the country and they will still lose their loved ones.

dustydee:
As in the ignorance and ridiculous messages is beyond my imagination. My misus started putting garlic in her smoothie now I can't even kiss her with this lock down.
Anyway I have said I don't want it in my food except if it is in small, undetectable quantity.

Hahahahahahaha I actually laughed out loud

LagosismyHome:
Please louder..... some at the back cant hear you

Abeg let be careful of spreading wrong information. This is a new virus and nobody know how to cure it or deal with it yet other than washing hands and social distance to avoid the spread

You are so right, the chinese eat a lot of Garlic and ginger but although they hid the true number of deaths I think they have the record of death from coronavirus

Like!!

Me I’m so tired of all the BCs my mum has been sending me: “stand naked in the middle of the road and you won’t catch it”, “lick the tails of an antelope, and you won’t catch”, “drink spring water from Judah, and you will be cured..”

I don tire. If I post my DM, you’ll pity me. I’m tired of having to explain to people that there’s no cure or treatment. And that they don’t need to go to the hospital (because that’s what’s putting undue pressure on doctors/nurses).

The misinformation is terrible!

Lexusgs430:
NHS Doctors & Nurses, are not soldiers..... I don't think anyone signed up to die (like the Army).... PPE's are also so inadequate.... Feels like sending people to an AK47 war, with a bread knife.....

I’m most appreciative of health workers right, but no I don’t agree with this sentiment. Soldiers didn’t sign up to die, they signed up to fight a war, if they die, they die. Same with docs, you signed up cos you’re passionate about treating and curing people (irrespective of that you’re treating/curing), so if you get infected along the way, sorry- it’s the job.

My dad has a health condition and is a doc in Nigeria. If they recall retired staff, he will go back and fight And all I’ll do is cry. Because it’s his job! I know how my mum almost ran mad when AIDS started in Nigeria, she thought he would catch it by touching a patient. It’s the risk of the job.

My tip: catch it, so at least you will rest. I have a health condition and I didn’t die, so you most likely won’t.

oyoolima:
It is as if there's a general acceptance that NHS workers are willing to die.

Clapping is coming from a good place but I believe NHS staff will benefit more from public outrage due to the lack of PPE available to staff.

When we clapped yesterday, my husband was furious that we should be fighting the govt, not clapping. Exactly what you’ve said now.

See ba, I came out to clap, not because I love boris but because I see people who aren’t protected but are willing to give their- most priced possession- health to us. It has nothing to do with the govt, it has to do with the workers, and I’m hurt that people are trying to politicise it.

Who knows, maybe in the next election, people will show the tories shege, and if they don’t, no wahala, they are certainly enjoying the punishment.

What I pointed out to him is how bad labour must be for the people to prefer a demonic party that’s crippling their “now-very-important” health care system, over labour.

Regardless, politics shouldn’t stop me from praising someone that’s risking it all for me.

salford1:
I am actually confused. We have been informed that those basic mask do not work, but I found articles that says cloth mask do offer some level of protection. It seems cloth mask prevents those that have the virus from spreading it. I will probably just buy one of those re-usable ones from HongKong off eBay. I am an essential services worker. I will keep one in my car glove compartment just in case there would be a use for it.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/17/opinion/coronavirus-face-masks.html

The reason they have told the world that it’s ineffective is because if you think it’s effective, you all will rush to buy it and deprive the actual people that need it (key/essential workers) from using it.

healthcare workers need them more than we do. If we can sit at home, there won’t be need to wear a mask. It protect others from catching your infection, if you leave it on your face and sneeze or cough into it (contrary to what one silly Nigeria politician did in the National Assembly).

Lexusgs430:
To emphasis the seriousness of COVID19......

This is a 24 hours count/difference..........

God have mercy

And to think that that number is less that the actual fact, because not everyone is tested (e.g. they didn’t even test my husband).

Monmarri:
Please for those of us that our spouse just started new permanent jobs in the hospital in the uk, and they have bin told to go home, bc of this Corona virus, how can they get six months payslips to make their partners spouse visa application. Pls any body thinking like me? What is the solution please ooooo!

Please after answering DisGuy’s question, my own is to hold your hand to tell you sorry. There’s nothing your spouse can do.

If it’s true that your partner has been told to go home, if they are a perm staff and their contract stipulates full salary, you don’t need to worry. If it stipulates statutory (most likely), the salary will be less and UKVI will use that less salary * 12 months to get the annual, hopefully it will be more than the minimum wage, then you’re covered.

If your partner is not a perm staff...Well, just relax in Nigeria till they start work again, then they will start gathering 6-12 months payslips again. Because the break won’t favour your application unless they have plenty money.

Lexusgs430:
We're now on a lock down......... The best position...........

Hopefully, more lives would be saved......


Start learning how to knit..........

Shebi they should have done this since.. penny wise, pound foolish.

My heart goes out to zero hour staff and contract staff. This is what I have been saying, that the virus is more than health, it attacked finances too. I’m so lucky my husband is a permanent staff that would get paid, even though it’s peanuts (shey its 119 per week for statutory)

Ridiculous- people will die of hbp or hunger before the virus sef!

Mobilipia:
how is your health ma? I wish you quick recovery.

Very fine dear, thank you

As you can see, I have gotten my power back to continue causing trouble

Honestly I can’t appreciate you health care workers enough, especially the foreign ones. Having been in the hospital for a bit, I saw first hand how bad things are. White nurses were running away but the foreign nurses stayed and helped patients.

Never been more proud of how hardworking black people are.

Thank you.

Kolping:
https://chuckbaldwinlive.com/Articles/tabid/109/ID/3991/A-Contagion-Of-Fear.aspx

Why they keep blaming the media is beyond me. Everyone morning when I wake up, I would turn on cnn to hear about the virus, wouldn’t I have been annoyed if cnn weren’t speaking about it? Their job is to report what the people want to know, which is what the media has been doing. So why are they being blamed for scare-mongering? The fear is people’s reaction to the news, so the people should be blamed not the media.

Example. You watch the adverts of hungry children dying in Africa, why aren’t you blaming those adverts for scare-mongering as well? Because no one is scared of that.

It’s ridiculous!

justwise:
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I hope you recover fast but you are a funny character, you are posting this here with the same name as that of twitter and still don't want people to know that you are a nairalander?

Shey if I bribe you with sweet, you will modify your comment and delete my part..

justwise:
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I hope you recover fast but you are a funny character, you are posting this here with the same name as that of twitter and still don't want people to know that you are a nairalander?

I posted it here instead of the page that was created. I feel safer here, that’s why. Also, i can’t send private messages fast on nairaland unless I wait for the op to accept it. This was the only way