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Foreign Affairs › Re: Obama Confronts Putin On Cyber Hacking at China G-20 summit by Appleyard(m): 12:33am On Sep 10, 2016
Missy89:
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Russia has a lot of natural resources hence her GDP will be very high but the economy itself is not really dynamic. Even the Soviet union was not regarded as a developed country. Give it a rest. You should visit Russia and see for yourself. Once you cross the Ural mountains, The rest is shite. If you study the history of the country, you will know why it is almost impossible for it to be as developed as the west no matter how hard the leaders try. I remember talking about this before
Go back and read the history regarding when the terms "developed and developing nations" came into being. It was coined during the cold war era wherein the US and its allies were in strives with the USSR and its allies. The terms when used gives the US a warped sense of belief that some of their allies with communist tendencies and ideologies, are still developing: while on the other hand, it enabled the USSR to tag some of it allies that practice free market theories, as still developing, even when going against communist doctrines.
Again, it gave the US led west the yardstick to see the USSR led east as "2nd tier world", while they regarded themselves as " the first tier world." The rest of the planet are then known as "3rd world nations." It was just a matter of economic and political ideology.

But the whole truth is, the USSR and today's Russia was a developed nation way back from the old. What the west today see as developed, is strictly out of the same ideological perspective that was operating during the cold war era.

Have you ever wondered why today the World Bank decided to do away with the term " developing? The reason is: there is no much difference anymore between so-called developed and developing nations of the world today. And that's exactly why it has stopped using that term. And they are very correct.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Obama Confronts Putin On Cyber Hacking at China G-20 summit by Appleyard(m): 1:21am On Sep 08, 2016
Missy89:
Russia and china are developing countries. That is fact


Sup?
Nay! I won't say Russia is a developing country, neither is it altogether a developed one in all ramifications, as some would argue. It can better be said to be in between. A world of its own. Again, it is trite that the designation and classification of nations as developed and developing, varies from place to place, and from one organization to the other, depending on the criteria adopted. There are those who based their designations on the country's level of industrialization, technological advancement/innovations, level of economy by GDP and GNP, HDI, High income earning, and so on. There are no hard and fast rules for classification.

For instance, the UN criteria for evaluating the degree of economic development are gross domestic product (GDP), gross national product (GNP), the per capita income, level of industrialization, amount of widespread infrastructure and general standard of living. Some organizations include HDI also as one of the indices.

The UN's list of 10 largest advanced economies.

In 2014, the ten largest advanced economies by GDP in both nominal and PPP terms were:
Australia, Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, South Korea, Spain, the United Kingdom, and the United States. All of these are considered to be 'developed'.

World Bank classifies economies and there is a category of "high-income economies". Russia is present in that list.

Further facts on the Economic data of Russia from IMF:
GDP (PPP) = About $3.5t (6th position)
GDP (PPP) per capita = About $24100 (53rd position)
GDP (nominal) = About $1.18 t (15th position)
GDP (nominal) per capita = $8,184 (74th position)
HDI = 0.778 (High. 57th position)

Even if we are to go by PPP, Russia (not to mention China) would still be there. On strict economic bases like in GDP and GNP, Russia can be said to be 'developing'. Which ever angle one looks at it, Russia can't be said to be a developing country in toto.


Am cool... long time...
Foreign Affairs › Re: Obama And Putin Exchanged Death Stares At G20 by Appleyard(m): 10:01am On Sep 07, 2016
Lucasbalo:
You are bringing up the Crazy leader of Philippines who is killing his own people left and right. It's only a matter of time before Fillipinos turn their backs on him. You are supporting him because he calls Obama son of a bit:h in his native Tagalog when he was giving his speech in English. I guess you are a bonafide member of HAC. We shall see who is going to be the next line of attack for HAC members when Obama vacates the Presidency on January 20.
I believe you read my post very well. I am not supporting Duterte and his extra-judicial killing madness. I only referenced his comments as a generic indication of the increasingly air of resentment of the US by many nations, due to it's incurable interventionist disease and Foreign Policy enslavement to the MIC and the neocons.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Obama Confronts Putin On Cyber Hacking at China G-20 summit by Appleyard(m): 12:24am On Sep 07, 2016
CSTR2:
This is a truly ignorant statement even the most ardent anti- US fanatic will not utter.
China and Russia are merely developing countries trying to catch up. The US created the internet and have the biggest software and hard ware firms in the world and the best IT minds too.
70% of the advancement in Cyber technology in this world was made on US soil or in collaboration with america.
That the US created the internet therefore mean they are the king of cyber warfare, right? You even called Russia and China as merely developing countries to show your level of ignorance.. Do you even know how long this nations have been in the game? Stop being ignorant. Just go and read up the confession of top US military brass on Russia's EWs, particularly as it relate to the Ukraine.
That should be an eye opener.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russian Agricultural Export Surpasses That Of Weapons by Appleyard(m): 5:00pm On Sep 06, 2016
There is always an advantage in every disadvantage.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Obama Gives Putin His Best Death Stare At The G20 Summit In China (photos) by Appleyard(m):
Obama be like:

you damn Moscowvite! You exposed ISIS as my pet project during the annual UN General Meeting last year, and I was forced to shamefully CENSORED that speech of yours so that most of the American people that my CIA controlled Media have successfully zombified over time, will not get to know the truth and spark a revolution.

And as if that is not enough, you came from the blue after giving a one hour clear-the-air-notice to my military, and you started bombing my pet project ISIS, which I faithfully escorted from Libya and Iraq into Syria. How dare you! sad

You even have the audacity, the effrontery, and the temerity, to call them ISIS when I always call them Daesh.

To make matters worse, you dare destroyed my "murderate" rebels in Syria, making all my billions spent on training and arming them a waste of money and efforts. If only I knew before hand, I would have diverted such funds to help mitigate the sufferings of the over 50 millions of Americans that are living on food stamps today.
You bastard! sad

After making a mockery of me by thwarting all my efforts in Ukraine, the speed and stealthiness by which you took Crimea and the alienic capabilities you deployed and displayed on course Syria, further made my war planners and think-tanks institutions look stupid and incompetent, as they stare and behold the Bear in awe and disbelief; for such things can only happen in the movies, after years of self imposed delusive propaganda. You see what you are doing to us? You gaddamn son of a gun! sad

Now, am really getting pissed off. In a bid to undermine our Dollar, you got Iran to sell their oil for gold, and you are now swapping currencies with China, which is busy dumping US treasury bonds like mad; for which I had no option but to fabricate an anonymous buyer in Europe to mop them up. Despite all the sanctions I have placed on you as a counter measure to stifle your military resurgence and weaken you economically, still; your economy have adapted to the sanctions, and have even recorded some growth in other areas. And now, many nations on the sanctions side are about rebelling against me. Mad man!
sad

I brought up NATO (Nationalized American Terrorist Organization) unto your doorsteps in the East in order to deter and scare you to fall in line of obedience like our puppets in the rest of Europe. We even went a step further by switching on the missile shield program in Romania. But instead of you to capitulate and acquiesce to our hegemonic commands, you countered by unveiling the Satan 2, the U-71, and a host of others of your alien-like fifth generational hypersonic missiles that renders our Aeges and THAAD defense systems useless. And to complicate matters for us, your drones are now escaping air to air missile fires, just as one did recently in Israel, by the aid of your damn magrav technology. Its by this you have rendered our bathroom fleet carriers to become sitting docks. And the French Navy further confirmed it when they used the same technology to sink the Theodore Roosevelt Carrier in a training exercise. Damn you Putin.
sad

I, Obama and my European puppets said " Assad must go". But, you said he must stay, and its we that must go. Now, Cameron is gone - tossed out by brexit. Erdogan is now siding with you. Hollande Hollandier Milk President of France is now a confuse man, as he can no longer been seen fighting Assad who is fighting ISIS that is also killing French people in France. Merkel CDP is now losing elections in Germany due to her immigration policy that is now killing Germans, all fueled by her previous stance of Assad must go mantra. Now she can't say that anymore. All courtesy of the Russian engagement. You are now reaping us apart. sad

Inspite of all the lies, the frenzy and character assassination our controlled media covens carried out against you; you remain the ONLY President in Europe with an 80% approval rating. I Obama don't even have 50% among my own people. Not even with my fellow African Americans.

You damn Putin! Why have you chosen to be President during my time.? Why don't you let a nigga be?

Damn you Russians.
sad sad
Foreign Affairs › Re: Obama And Putin Exchanged Death Stares At G20 by Appleyard(m): 8:08am On Sep 06, 2016
Chubhie:
The Chinese snubbed Obama by failing to accord him a red carpet reception given to other leaders.

The Chinese and Americans almost exchanged blows at the airport.
And the Philippines President doubled down on the ill treatment Obama received in his recent travels. The underlining fact is that, people and nations all over the world are increasingly getting fed up with America's imposing Foreign Policy highhandedness and geopolitical autocracy.
Politics › Re: Nnamdi Kanu Addressed As ‘his Excellency, President Of Biafra’ In Kuje Prison by Appleyard(m): 7:52am On Sep 06, 2016
So you mean to say, he is a President ONLY in the prison? Just wondering.
Foreign Affairs › Re: US Peace Council Returns From Syria: “invasion By The US And Her Allies" by Appleyard(m): 5:26pm On Sep 04, 2016
It has always been the same pattern all along. The US causing confusion and chaos from one part of the earth to another.
Culture › Re: Gorgeous Urhobo Bride From Niger Delta by Appleyard(m): 4:52pm On Sep 04, 2016
pyyxxaro:
Beautiful Omotè
I tell you. No be just Omote only: na "ovwa woroworo" be that o~. aye ve ruvwu.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia, Turkey And Syria Have Agreed Onjoint Operations In Syria by Appleyard(op): 1:36pm On Sep 03, 2016
Zoharariel:
Under no circumstances is Amerika ever going to be able to dictate her terms to Russia by threatening her with nuclear annihilation.

With Russia & China now in a de facto military union, and with Erdogan graciously holding tightly to Amerika's balls - the game is about coming to an end for the Jew-nited State of Amerika & her head-chopping “moderate” terrorists in Syria.

I only hope the nuclear mushroom cloud won't pop-up in the Syrian horizon before the brainwashed Amerikan sheeple call their war-mongering rats in Washington to order, but whatever the case maybe, the logic of Mutual Assured Destruction (MAD) remains in effect. grin
I tell ya. More surprises and game changing moments ahead, soulja...
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia, Turkey And Syria Have Agreed Onjoint Operations In Syria by Appleyard(op): 12:16pm On Sep 02, 2016
Talk about conflicting and then realigning interests. The fact is that, there are no permanent foes or friends in the game of geopolitics.
Foreign Affairs › Russia, Turkey And Syria Have Agreed Onjoint Operations In Syria by Appleyard(op): 12:13pm On Sep 02, 2016
RUSSIA, SYRIA, AND TURKEY HAVE AGREED ON JOINT OPERATIONS IN SYRIA
01.09.2016
Syria
Valentin Vasilescu


If Russia wanted to, it could deploy three armored divisions to Syria within 72 hours and thereby permanently solve the problem of Islamist rebels. The US could do the same in its pursuit of removing Bashar al-Assad from power. Therefore, the two powers’ involvement in Syria and the fighting has been done mostly by proxies, while each of the two great powers tries to cheat the other. This balance was disturbed by the Turkish military intervention in Northern Syria. The intervention could have ruined the rules established between the US and Russia. However, things were clarified and there was an unexpected chance to rapidly conclude hostilities in Syria.

After August 24th, 2016, the date that the Turkish army launched the operation around the town Jarablus, several rounds of talks, the latest of which was in Baghdad, were held between Russian, Syrian, and Turkish officers on limiting and controlling Turkey’s actions. After the failed coup, Turkey is no longer the aggressive Turkey that downed the Russian Su-24 jet at the end of 2015. Therefore, Turkish sources say that a consensus on more points was achieved in the end in terms of limiting the Turkish “Euphrates Shield” operation to Northern Syria in accordance with Syrian interests. Russian army staff officers were accepted as “referees” to help control the planners of the Turkish Euphrates Shield operation.

The first point imposed on Turkey was a threshold in terms of forces deployed by the Turkish army in Syria, which is not to exceed 8,000 soldiers (two mechanized brigades, an artillery regiment, a battalion of special forces, a squadron of F-16, and a mixed one formed from helicopters, amphibious assault and transport vehicles).

The second agreed point was the area in Syria where the Turkish military may move to eliminate Islamic State fighters. This is a strip between the cities of Quarah Koubri and Jarablus (90 km) with a depth of 30 km from the Turkish-Syrian border. At the same time, Turkey has committed to not allow rebel FSA (Free Syrian Army) militants to act in this strip independently, without orders from Turkish army units.

Although the Syrian army intervened in defense of Kurdish YPG fighters surrounded by Islamist rebels in the Sheikh Maqsoud district of Aleppo on August 21st, 2016, the YPG attacked the Syrian army in the city of al-Hasakah, conquering it. Therefore, also included in the second set of points is that the Turkish army has permission from the Syrian government to evacuate from the eastern bank of the Euphrates (even in battle) Kurdish rebels (YPG) who conquered the city of Manbij from the Islamic State with the help of US special forces. Russian S-400 missile systems will not bring down Turkish aircraft flying beyond the 90x30 km strip if they are acting against PKK terrorists.

The third point agreed upon means the withdrawal of most rebel groups controlled by the Turkish intelligence services in the battle zones around the city of Aleppo and in the Latakia governate. This maneuver will help the Syrian army achieve final victory in the battle for Aleppo.
Turkey pledges that when the offensive of Iranian volunteers and Syrian army to encircle and liquidate the Islamic State starts, then the Turks will execute a maneuver of forces and means together with the Syrian army. No matter what actions the Kurds will take against the Islamic State, Turkey will create a safety cordon along the Syrian-Turkish border to prevent the dispersal of Islamic State fighters to other countries.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Iceland Unearths Rock To Appease Angry Elves by Appleyard(m): 11:39am On Sep 02, 2016
End time Elves.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Breaking News: Hilary Clinton Loosing Supporters - CNN by Appleyard(m): 2:51am On Sep 02, 2016
IJOBA2:
I REALLY DONT UNDERSTAND WHY YOU MUSLIMS ARE SO SCARED ABOUT TRUMP WINNING THE NOVEMBER PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION grin
Because the Trumpster might send them to the desert they belong.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Top 7 Ways America Has Alienated Vladimir Putin (and Vice-versa) by Appleyard(m): 2:47pm On Sep 01, 2016
Chevalier:
2. Putin gives Washington a chance to pass on war (for a change)
After spending prodigious amounts of money, material and manpower fighting fundamentalists in the desert, some might be tempted to think the US would relish any opportunity to avoid another military misadventure. If you believed that, you haven’t been paying attention to what’s been occurring in the Middle East since 2002 with the US invasion of Afghanistan.
Future historians (that is, assuming there is a future where historians may ponder the past) may one day mark August 29, 2013 as the day when the American Empire first started showing signs of wear and tear. That was when UK Prime Minister David Cameron failed to secure approval in the House of Commons to join yet another US-led serial killing, this time in Syria, after President Bashar Assad purportedly crossed Obama’s whimsical “red line” and used chemical weapons against the Syrian opposition (an assertion that was never proven).
This placed the Obama administration in a bind, eventually leading to a ‘slip of the tongue’ by US Secretary of State John Kerry, who remarked that Syria could avoid an American blitzkrieg if it agreed to surrender its chemical weapons “within one week”. Infuriatingly for the US neocons, Putin successfully convinced Damascus to remove its chemical weapons with all due haste.
Predictably, however, US media and thinktankdom portrayed Putin’s eleventh-hour diplomacy, which delayed the obliteration of yet another Middle East state, as some sort of geopolitical ploy.
"It absolutely is a diplomatic win by Putin right now," Fiona Hill, director of the Center on the United States and Europe at the Brookings Institution, told CNN.
I was almost expecting Fiona to employ some sort of judo analogy next. Oh wait, she did.
"If we think about this as judo, which is of course Mr. Putin's favorite sport, this is just one set of moves," she said. "And right now, he's managed to get Obama off the mat, at least, and get the terms set down that play to his advantage."
Think about that. If that was the best press Putin could get when he helped America to avoid yet another military smash-up, chances are negligible that he would ever get positive reviews under normal circumstances. And therein, dear reader, lies the rub: America has come to the psychotic point in its foreign policy when avoiding military conflict is actually viewed as a setback.
So much on point. I couldn't have said it any better. The more powerful the nation, the more senseless it becomes until that power is solely dissipated by folly.

It is trite now that America is wired to fight wars and be destroyed by it.

I weep for America.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Top 7 Ways America Has Alienated Vladimir Putin (and Vice-versa) by Appleyard(m): 2:34pm On Sep 01, 2016
Chevalier:
Western media and thinktankdom have gone wildly off the rails regarding the Russian leader, blaming anything and everything on Vladimir Putin. The public has largely bought the raw propaganda wholesale and this is a tragedy for US-Russian relations.
A cursory glance at Putin’s track record should convince even the most jaded Russian observer that he has done everything possible to build solid relations with the United States. Yet not only has the Obama administration refused to meet Putin halfway, it characterizes the Russian leader as the global arch villain bar none.
So here’s a refresher course for anybody who’s ever dragged Putin’s name through the mud, serving up piping hot propa-garbage while helping to exasperate tensions between Russia and the US.
As Vladimir Nabokov once proclaimed before considering an entirely different subject, “Look at this tangle of thorns” .
1. Putin provides ‘extraordinary assistance’ to ‘War on Terror’
It is no secret that following the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001 against the US, Putin was the first global leader to telephone US President George W. Bush. And he didn't call collect. Moreover, the Russian leader offered more than just words of condolence. He pushed through a raft of legislation to assist the US in the fight against terrorism.
In his 2011 book, “Vladimir Putin and Russian Statecraft,” Allen C. Lynch documented Putin’s contributions to America’s endless ‘War on Terror’.
“In a bold decision… Putin made Russia the most important U.S. ally in the war against the Taliban,” Lynch wrote. “Among other things, he accelerated deliveries of weapons to the Northern Alliance in Afghanistan so that when the Alliance marched into Kabul it did so with Russian, not American, weapons and vehicles. He encouraged the governments of Uzbekistan and Tajikistan to allow American military bases on their territory.”
And here is my personal favorite: “He opened Russian airspace for American overflights to bases in Central Asia so that the US could conduct search and rescue operations for U.S. airmen (Please imagine the howl of pain that would echo across Washington if any US president allowed Russian military overflights across US territory into South America!).
Despite Putin’s extreme generosity bestowed upon the US military and intelligence apparatus, Washington proved Graham Greene’s adage “there is no such thing as gratitude in politics” by ratcheting up pressure against Russia for no good reason whatsoever.
According to Stephen Cohen, the US repaid Putin for his
“extraordinary assistance” by “further expanding NATO to Russia’s borders and by unilaterally withdrawing from the 1972 Anti-Ballistic Missile treaty, which Moscow regarded as the linchpin of its nuclear security.”
With friends like this who needs enemies?
I believe some mendacious folks like those unrepentant shenanigans we have here, will never admit the obvious that the MIC and the Luciferian elites that controls it, are the curtain raiser of the warmongering US Foreign Policy that seeks to, and have successfully made Russia a perpetual enemy, because "threat with Russia" is good for business. One of their own General even admitted this that enmity with Russia is good for business. That is, more funding and more money for the war hawks and the MIC. None care to recall the words of Highsinghower on this predatory evil.
Foreign Affairs › Re: China Sides With Russia In Syrian War, Will Provide Aid And Military Training by Appleyard(m): 5:40pm On Aug 23, 2016
Watching Alois Irlmaier's prophecy with bated breath...Rdogan and the Balkans on the other hand....

Prophecy made clearer by events.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Turkey Launches Attacks On IS, Kurds In Syria by Appleyard(m): 5:22pm On Aug 23, 2016
Interesting.
Agriculture › Re: "Vertical Sack Farming" My Pains, My Joy! My Experience So Far By: Organicfoods by Appleyard(m): 4:46pm On Aug 23, 2016
@op. I am loving this big time. Thanks a lot for taking the time to share this info. I don't see why a lot of Nigerian youths should still remain jobless, with such awesome opportunity around.

please, Apart from Cucumber, what other fruits and crops can one grow on sacks, and how much will it cost for a startup, using one plot of land (100×50?)

And what is the purpose of the triangle net wood that you posted on the first set of pictures?

please, I will be waiting for your answers.
Thanks.
Foreign Affairs › Re: 50,000 Laid Off In Saudi Arabia As Oil Crisis Bites Deeper by Appleyard(m): 1:12pm On Aug 17, 2016
tempest01:
lol....zombies don't disappoint
There is no zombie here. The truth is, most of what is happening now economically are not Buharis's fault. The man is trying, though still falls short of expectations. If GEJ was still in place, this whole country could have been sunk by the twin cannons of merciless looting and gross financial recklessness.

And that's a fact!
Foreign Affairs › Re: 50,000 Laid Off In Saudi Arabia As Oil Crisis Bites Deeper by Appleyard(m): 1:02pm On Aug 17, 2016
shukuokukobambi:
A whole Saudi!! Mehn, no be small something o grin
Now you can see that the situation with Nigeria is not the worst. Right now in Venezuela, hunger is forcing people to break into zoo to eat equally hungry animals, due to severe drought and economic collapse fueled by the global rebellious oil price. Angola is sweating like a woman in labour, while Russia seems to be awakening from the same turbulent waters. Equador is like a crucified spartan, and the UAE can't stop complaining, even as Canada had to borrow to finance its budget.

The truth is, nations that relies solely on oil as the mainstay of their economics, are not finding it funny in this period, and Nigeria is not walking alone on this road that leads to nowhere. We can now see that even the Saudi giant is a trekking companion on this sorrowful journey.
Politics › Re: Northern Governors Hire British Firm To Prospect For Oil by Appleyard(m): 11:30am On Aug 15, 2016
PFRB:
The so called South South and Niger Delta can now see how foolish they have been. Very soon the North will be championing secession and you guys will be on the other end of the stick. Abuja plus oil in the north nails you guys finally.
You simply don't get it. If today oil is discovered in the north, it is then you will know the difference between a Hausa man and a Fulani man, a Tiv man from Jukun... In fact, such a discovery will immediately usher in the much craved resource control brouhaha and the fight for the entrenchment of true and fiscal federalism.

I can't help but fast and pray that oil should miraculously surface somewhere in the north, then people would see the reality: what goes around will then come around.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia & Germany Foreign Minister To Meet On Ukraine & Syria Crisis by Appleyard(m): 2:45pm On Aug 14, 2016
NairaMinted:
And I thought Russia was "being isolated"?
Yeah.. But only in the dreamland of US apologists.. cheesy
Foreign Affairs › Re: First Nudist Open Air Bar In London by Appleyard(m): 4:02pm On Aug 13, 2016
The world is now gradually becoming one hell of a porn movie.. DemoCrazy indeed! Demonstration of open madness. Pathetic.

Man is a failed project.
Foreign Affairs › Re: What If A U.s.-russian Deal In Syria Goes Exactly As Planned? by Appleyard(m): 3:50pm On Aug 13, 2016
NairaMinted:
I couldn't have said it any better. The body language and statements post coup and the delayed statements of condemnation of the coup from the West says a lot.

I also hear that that story of Erdogan seeking asylum in Germany whilst the coup was unfolding was hatched by a Western paper to lend more credence to the illusion that the coup was succeeding.
Though Erdogan is a crazy fellow in many arreas, the truth remains that some key players in the west wanted him out, and the US is a prime suspect in this kind of arrangement. The body language and rhetorics from Turkey and from the west, like you mentioned, suggest the obvious. Anyone they can't control, they seek to overthrow. Its an old but working strategy of the US.

Not withstanding, Erdogan can hardly be trusted. The only ground of mutualism playing well for both parties at the moments, is the grudnorm that, "the enemy of my enemy is my friend".
Foreign Affairs › Re: What If A U.s.-russian Deal In Syria Goes Exactly As Planned? by Appleyard(m): 3:29pm On Aug 13, 2016
Missy89:
How many oil and pipelines did America takeover in Korea and Vietnam and Iraq? How much Oil import does America get from the middle east? Do you know?
My oh My! Take a gaddamn seat in front of ya computer, lady, and do some fact check. Why was Bush hell bent on killing Saddam, why did America engaged in Libya, and now Syria? And why did the Hillary Clinton-led State Dept fails to designate Boko Haram as a terrorist organization? And When you have discovered why war is a profitable and money spinning business, and why Uncle Sam is always flapping fans of war like an elephant, then you can come back and let's talk.

Meanwhile, you should be prepared to answer why Turkey locked down the Incirlik airbase, and why is Erdogan shifting goal post so suddenly... You know I always like your ideas on these type of issues... cool

Good luck......
Foreign Affairs › Re: What If A U.s.-russian Deal In Syria Goes Exactly As Planned? by Appleyard(m): 10:54am On Aug 13, 2016
Missy89:
The problem with most anti America, Putin friendly hacks on NL is that they are simply incapable of grasping that there can be any evil in the world not directly hatched by Washington. This is a very clueless position you guys start every argument with.
Nobody is incapable of grasping anything. Its your lots you have stubbornly refused to see beyond the fleece of jingoism, imbedded with the chronic syndrome of "America can never do wrong," that is the real problem here. As long as oil, pipelines and wars are involved, America will always get pulled in. Face the facts and quit living in delusion.
Foreign Affairs › Re: What If A U.s.-russian Deal In Syria Goes Exactly As Planned? by Appleyard(m): 10:15am On Aug 13, 2016
Underground:
Thoughts? Appleyard, NairaMinted, Scully95, Zoharariel

"As I understand it, Erdogan’s aircraft was being followed by two or three Turkish rebel aircraft intent on shooting him out of the sky.

The reason they did not is that they were not only locked on to by S400 radar at Heymim airbase, but also were themselves being closely followed by armed Russian planes who politely informed their partners (Turkish rebel pilots), that if they made any attempt to shoot down Erdogan they themselves would be destroyed by the Russians.

This element of the attempted coup has not been reported in the West for obvious reasons. It is indicative, however, just how closely Russia was not only following events but also how they influenced the outcome to the detriment of the coup planners.

Taking this in to account, and considering the FSB face to face meeting with Erdogan just prior to the coup where the lists of traitors were supplied, and upon which he is now acting, I am inevitably drawn to the conclusion that Russian military intelligence today knows the exact numbers and locations of these bombs.

More than likely they are still in situ. I don’t think helicopters were used to move them but rather helicopters were much more likely carrying fleeing CIA terrorists and their traitorous Turkish colleagues to safe zones.

Nukes in Turkey and Pakistan and (possibly) Saudi Arabia as well as Isreal make for a lethal powder keg of disaster. No wonder Russia has drawn the Paks toward their trading block. Israel and the Saudis can read the writing on the wall…Clinton is even less trustworthy than Obama thus a change of allegiance to Russia is the only viable long term option.

With the collapse of the Muslem tummy in the US surrounding of Russia and China that leaves only NATO in Europe, South Korea and Japan.

The US world hegemony is unravelling before our eyes and short of all out war there is nothing the US can do to prevent it.

Syria was not a line in the sand. It was the fulcrum point on which the US hegemony destroyed itself. And Putin was the clever politician that saw in this something more. He turned what appeared to the Pentagon to be only a dubious tactic into a decisive strategem.

As the old English saying goes, ‘give him enough rope and he’ll hang himself’! In other words, be patient, let the arrogant US do what it wants without let or hindrance, and sure enough ultimately it will hang itself by its own stupidity.

The US has just publically hung itself across the entire Moslem world for all to see, and there is no turning back. Rothchild’s CIA has stretched its own neck with its own rope. QED.

The nukes are well watched and most probably have been lost to the Russians forever."
There is no denying the fact that foreign intelligences knew about the botched coup, and from the look of things and body languages that follows its aftermath, one can conclude that while some or one of such intelligence body worked in favour of the attempted coup, the other worked against it. This much is very apparent when you consider actions of Turkey immediately after the coup. Turkey immediately called Russia "a friend," which signifies that the Russian intelligence must have helped in thwarting the coup, even though Erdogan denies that he didn't receive any help from any foreign intelligence, but his next comments during the Russian meeting further fuels the claims that FSB must have helped him during the attempted coup, when he said that, "if I make a call for help, I will always find a helper in Russia." That statement alone clarifies the fact that Erdogan was tipped off by the Russians, and so is very possible that S-400 triumph (which actually covered the whole of those area) and Russians tailing behind, must have been the reason why the F16s couldn't take out the presidential jet from the sky. There is simply no other plausible explanation for it.

Again, the lockdown of the Incirlik airbase with such huge security force and armaments, further lend credence to the increasingly obvious fact that a section of the US CIA was behind the coup, either with full or partial collabo from Washington, or that Washington wasn't even at all briefed on the attempted coup. This is very possible because this days, its becoming harder to tell who is in charge of American foreign policy. Whether its Bush era CIA or the other CIA plus Israeli lobby buggy man group, we can't tell anymore. Right now, trying to understand and comprehend the centrality of America's foreign policy, is one hell of an enigma, with State Department saying and doing one thing, while the factionalized CIA is doing another: a complete mystified paradoxical irony of stated objectives.

And now that Turkey is talking of striking defence arrangement with Russia, that will also include missile defence components, while also pushing forward the idea of a trilateral economic and security triangle that will involve Turkey, Russia and Azerbaijan, as a counter to its growing mistrust of and perceived mistreatment by NATO/the EU, is raising eyebrows in the western hemisphere, and has further laid bare the folly and archaic policy of the US in backstabbing and always seeking to overthrow any nation that deviate from its puppeteering course of action. Thus, the rumours making the mills about the tactical nukes, could be anything to go by, not that they would be of much use to Turkey in any significant sense, since they don't have the launch codes either.

However, one thing is gradually unravelling , and it is that, American foreign policy to the Mideast is crumbling before our very eyes. The only regret is that its going to be at the expense of much blood and chaos.
Foreign Affairs › Re: In Which Country Do You Feel The Most Free: The USA Or The UK? by Appleyard(m): 10:32pm On Aug 11, 2016
chachanga:
And the funny part's , while citing "street gangsterism" etc as a motivation, the police killings are far from and rhyme or reason. They're motivated by all sorts of sadistic, petty whims that you wonder where all their true-blue honor's evaporated too now. I don't wonder why black kids get all hickey on sighting the cops now.
Yeah

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