₦airaland Forum

seagulsntrawler:
The wheels are gradually coming off and the empire of chaos is running around like a headless chicken and issuing threats to Brexiter in the UK. At first it was O-bomber, then followed by the deranged hag and laggard named Christine, of the moribund IMF, some weeks later.
The logic is that the countries in the EU are easier to manipulate, collectively as a group in Washington's suicidal war of aggression against the rest of the world.

I can't agree less. The idea behind the EU is nothing short of economic wealth, political integration and creating an enabling environment for mutual cooperation. However, Europeans are people that loves and cherish their freedom and choice so much, that they're not willing to trade places for it, and the crux of this ungoing ''exit'' problem lies in the seemingly attempt to deny them of that very choice; and one of such problem is the immigrational arrangement under the Schengen free movement zone. By this arrangement, a lot of Eastern Europeans have been able to take up jobs in the West side, straining the healthcare, insurance and social security schemes of the host nations, to the detriment of its own citizens.
The recent and still ungoing migrant crisis further exercabated the whole process, as it brought into perpective the security challanges of 'open borders.' This aspect of security is perhaps the greatest challenge, as a lot of people are of the opinion that the European Union settings eroded or is interfering with sovereignty in certain vital areas that requires state independent decision making and foreign policy formulation alone. For instance, nations like Germany, France, Poland, Ireland, etc, which have much to lose in terms of market and product sales, in the wake of sanctions and counter sanctions with Russia, have no choice but to comply; since only a consensus can make the sanctions work. In other words, such nations make the choice against their own interest, but to the ultimate interest of the US and Britain. This is another reason why many in France and in the UK (and even in Germany) are now calling for an exit; for they come to realize that their goverments have lost or is fast loosing sovereignty, rather, acting as willing puppets to further the course of the others who have barely or nothing to lose.

NairaMinted:
Apparently, it is only former Soviet bloc states such as the Baltic States, Poland and Ukraine that long to belong to the E.U.. The populace of western Europe it seems have had enough.

Of course, its only them. And as it is, things are getting to the brim.

giles14:
I don't think so cos even d Russians are also modernizing and awakening some of dere old beast frm subs to battle field kit and equipment.


the USA military have access to the media which is a great propaganda tool.


don't forget about the Russians show-off in Syria which the US is trying to downplay.....


d only edges the US have over the Russians are jst media n a strong economy

Na only God go bless you for this rare truth you tell that my pikin. them think say war na film..

Zoharariel:
Goddamnit! Aside from Magrav, does Iran possess any other known technology that could be used to monitor, track & disrupt computer networks, as clearly stated in the executive order?

Where is ATkester when you need him?

No, they have other ones: catapults and stones, + witchcraft..

ValerianSteel:
@AppleYard.

The Executive Order doesn't explicate on what the technology is and therefore doesn't suggest it is your Magrav technology in question.

Please note the President of the United States issues Presidential Decisions Directives for matters relating to National Security.These are not made public.There's no way Obama would ban a supposedly dangerous technology that threatens US national security through an executive order.It is not done,the President issues a Presidential Decisions Directive on matters of foreign policy,defense,and national security.The contents of these directives are never made public.

If Obama was intent on banning your supposed Magrav,he would have placed sanctions regarding it on Iran and Syria which would hamper the spread or popularity of such technology.

If your Magrav exists and truly threatens American technological superpower,America would have stopped it in its track.In the event it can't be curtailed,the United States military would have developed a counter technology,the past five years would have been enough time to do that.

You keep showing your ignorance. Did the Executive Order mentioned Iranian and Syrian Information technology as Threat to the US national security, or not? Was it equally mentioned as a threat to American Foreign Policy. or not? And how the heck thus Iranian and Syrian Televisions, Radios, Gadgets, Websites, Blogs, etc etc, became a threat to US national security and foreign policy? Answer that!
How was Iran able to Disrupt, Commandeer, and captured (not shot down) the most sophistticated Stealth drone the US has ever built? Oh, they did it by wicthcraft or African technology passed on to them by Valeriansteel, right?


Stopping it my foot! It was the counter measure they were testing against the French version in an excercise last year, when that large for nothing floating ballon called Theodore Roosevelt Carrier was sunk, along with its accompanying fleights, by a 30 year old submarine. I guess it was catapult and stones they used in sinking it.

I just dey look una dey laf....

It is only God that will help some of you guys see the light again.

Until some of us realize that jingoistic propaganda can never take the place of truth when reality sets in, we will continue to wallow in its cheap waters, thinking we are ingrained with knowledge, alas basking in self delusion.

Until you have answers to the above glaring facts, stop bothering yourself on this topic.


Remain blesss.

ValerianSteel:
Proof of this from an independent or vetted source please not those anti-American hate club links you post here.

You claim Magrav technology has been in use since 2011 yet United States warships swim into Russian backyard waving the American flag past Russian dilapidated naval base.

Simple logic and reasoning eludes you.

In the Land of the Blinds, the one-eyed man is king, but when that same man is led by propaganda, the fall of his folly is more akin to a resounding night bang in a cementary. Reason: the blind man is only blind to the daylight, but his mental disposition and judgemental correctness by virtue of his inate sensual and instinctive credibility, enables him to form a viable conclusion; unlike the one-eyed man whose eyes and mind is clouded by a mist of egocentric delusion, elucidating a venom-filled puerile jingoistic mendacity, the hallmark of zombie-ism.

Its such unfortunate that a whole bunch of your likes falls under this category. Though they seeth, but yet blinded, by virtue of their propagandized minds thats been invaded and conquered by the darkness of mendacity. And how great is that darkness.... Pathetic.

Here is your "oBarMan" made Executive Oder plate of hotdog, straight from the"Barak" of idiocy.

"EXECUTIVE ORDER- - - - - - -BLOCKING THE PROPERTY AND SUSPENDING ENTRY INTO THE UNITED STATES OF CERTAIN PERSONS WITH RESPECT TO GRAVE HUMAN RIGHTS ABUSES BY THE GOVERNMENTS OF IRAN AND SYRIAv VIA INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY By the authority vested in me.."

Now let us break this baby down into some pieces of reality and intent.

Why were the governments of Iran and Syria singled out in this shameless order? Did i hear you say "human right abuses? Now and even before now, some of the most democratic, diverse culturally intergrated and religious tolerating and peaceful nations in the Mid East, are Iran and Syria. These two nations embodies the factual reality of a heterogeneous society where all manners and forms of religion and culture are harmoniously coexisting side by side, in peace and unity. There are even more christians and non muslims in Iran than you can get in Israel. So, how does this states abuses the frundamental rights of people in their domain? If these states are abusers of human rights, where should we put Satan Arabia, the only country in the world today wherein women are stoned to death, hanged and publicly tortured, for the smallest of offencess? Yet they are not in the United States of Torture black book? Well, how would they be, birds of the same feather they say, flock together. Therefore sweep that silly excuse into the dust bin.

Now, it is interesting to note that this countires, as mentioned in the ban, are alledged to be perpetuating this so-called abuse by the use of Information Technology one may think that the Order was targeting.

Now come to think of it. When it comes to mass media and communication capability such as, Tvs, radio, the internet - blogs and websites, socail medias (ingredients of color revolutions,) the likes of Iran and Syria and still 100 years behind. I dont even need to mentioned satellites because it would be an insult to the sky rulers. How does Iranian and Syrian communication and Information technology abuses human rights and causes problem for others? And even if we are to go by this, a more sophisticated and far reaching advanced threats like Russia and -China are holding sway accross the US. Why Iran and Syria? One may think it is all about Information Technology, but a cursory look and critical perusal, reading in between the lines and indept nature of the Executive Order, would reveal otherswise.

"I, BARACK OBAMA, President ofthe United States of America, hereby determine that the commission of serious human rights abuses against the people of Iran and Syria by their governments, facilitated by computer and network disruption, monitoring, and tracking by those governments,and abetted by entities in Iran and Syria that are complicit in their governments’ malign use of technology for those purposes, threaten the nationalsecurity and foreign policy of the United States.

This really got me laughing...

"Computer and network, "monitoring and tracking". So, since when does Iran and Syria Radios and TVs started monitoring and threatening its own people, needless to say Americans? It was the next line that further reveals the real intent of this executive order:

"their government mialign use of technologies (no longer informational) that threatens the NATIONAL SECURITY AND FOREIGN POLICY OF THE US".

Is anybody listening?

So Iranian and Syrian "information technology" - Televisions, Radios, Blogs, Websites, telephones, etc, have become a threat to US national security? BUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Zoharariel must hear this.

And as if that is not enough, the said Information Technology wont also let them shape and undertake the US foreign policy the way they would want it? heheheheh Cyprus000 must hear this, tag it, and fax it to the Kremlin. This is the latest threat to any country now: Televisions and Radios, websites and blogs, greater than atomic weapons. Pathetic.

But yeah. they were right! Iran actually "monitored, tracked, "computerized, Disrupted and took Control of the most advanced US Stealth drone, the RQ 170 Sentinel, from control of your vassals that sent it from Afghanistan, in December 2011: And they made their own copy of the highly secretive drone by way of reverse engineering. All courtsey of magrav,..and which rumores making the rounds suggest that it was also being passed down to Assad as well. And it makes more sense, considering Syria was virtually added to the list. And that is exactly what this Executive Order its all about. Except you and your Langley Mother of self denial can explain to me how Iranian Televisions and Radios, gadgets and internet, constitute a threat to US national security and its foreign policy. And you must explain to me what the likes of RT and CCTV are still doung in the US information market, if really such is the new threat right now. It is only a kid and illogical thinker that would have expected the Dratfer of the Order to put magrav down in black and white. But for those who can decode the intent by unravelling the logic behind the ban and the facts on ground, are those that rightly know the aims and objective of the "covert" Bill.

Propaganda is truelly a disease thats worse than ALS.

Now we know who reason and logic eludes.

And this is from the original: White Horse Sousse


https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/04/23/executive-order-blocking-property-and-suspending-entry-united-states-cer?_e_pi_=7%2CPAGE_ID10%2C1885066355


I dont even need to comment on your US ships sailing past the black sea since 2011: Is like expecting China that have nukes to sink US ships sailing the South China sea, simply because they are enemies.

Have a nice day.

Missy89:
Lol but neocons are no longer in power. Get you conspiracy straight

You think your puppet President is the one pulling the strings here, then you are still living in the stone age...

Its no secret that Al Qaeda and IS are pet projects of the neocons.

The spirit behind the EU's common goal integration is, right now as it seem, resting on a wavering gambit of consensus democracy, emanating from increasingly frustrated citizens within the various independent front-liners of the ''innocent'' confederation.

Now French voters call for FREXIT after Germany face demands for EU referendum.

MORE than half of French voters want their own in-out referendum on European Union (EU) membership, renewing fears in Brussels that a Brexit could topple the 28-country bloc.

53 per cent of the French voted in favour of holding a referendum on the country’s membership
With Britons set to go to the polls in June, there are increasing signs the UK’s referendum is paving the way for other European countries to question their own relationship with Brussels.
It comes after calls for Germany to have their own EU referendum in the aftermath of the migrant crisis.

In a fresh blow to the EU, 53 per cent of the French voted in favour of holding a UK-style referendum on the country’s membership. Such a response from one of the EU’s founder members will undoubtedly ruffle feathers in Brussels.

Front National (FN) leader Marine Le Pen welcomed the poll results in a recent blog post, saying French demands for a referendum were “extremely encouraging”.
A quarter (25 per cent) of French people also want to see an end of free movement throughout Europe after the EU’s Schengen zone was heavily criticised in the aftermath of the Paris attacks.

Alongside Germany, France is considered the central pillar of the European project.
But a struggling economy and a faltering government has fuelled a rising Eurosceptic sentiment in France, as well as an escalating migrant crisis and a surge in popularity for the far-right FN.
And with France’s neighbours across the Channel winning negotiations with Brussels, many French voters are asking why their government cannot do the same.

In a University of Edinburgh survey of 8,000 voters in Germany, France, Poland, Ireland, Spain and Sweden, France was the only country where a majority said they would back holding a UK-style EU referendum.
But France is not the first European country where voters are demanding their own chance to leave the EU, with both the Netherlands and the Czech Republic saying they want to follow Britain in holding an in-out referendum.

In a Dutch poll, 53 per cent supported an in-out vote, while the Czech prime minister Bohuslav Sobotka warned a "Czexit" could follow if Britons choose to leave the EU in June.
Anand Menon, a professor of European politics at King’s College, said: “The British referendum is a laboratory for other referendums in Europe.
“Such trivialisation could produce devastating effects.”
While a central member of the EU, France, like Britain, has always been traditionally hostile to further European integration.

In 2005 French voters overwhelmingly rejected the proposed European Constitution, sending political reverberations throughout the EU.
A third (33 per cent) of French people surveyed would back a so-called Frexit, while 45 per cent would vote to remain and 22 per cent are undecided, according to the University of Edinburgh poll.


http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/654175/French-voters-demand-Frexit-EU-referendum-Germany-UK-Brexit

Lalasticlala, do the needful.

ValerianSteel:
They have Magrav technology remember

The same "none existing" technology Obama banned...

Angelou:
the same way God turned a blind eye on the house of Israel when the forces of tiglath-pileser III and shalmeneser of assyria obliterated the ten tribes of the northern kingdom of Israel during biblical times, that's exactly how Yahweh shall once again allow Persia (iran) to decimate Israeli for being allies with the sodomy-endorsing United States

Exactly! A lot of people are still understanding God and His ways pertaining to Israel. He made it clear that if they depart from his ordinance, He will also abandone them to the sufferings and vengeance in the hands of their adversaries; and thats what has been happening since time immemorial - from the 2nd World War till date. Even as God will always keep His side of the convenant and ensure the security of Israel when threatens, so too He will also purnish and deliver them into the hands of their enemies, for their iniquities and violation of the convenant. For He is also a God of justice!

Zoharariel:
5starGeneral Appleyard - You cannot blame Missy, you should know, she has spent a good number of her years working for the “empire of chaos” especially in an environment (USAF) where propaganda is dished out on a regular basis like a pot of indomie garnished with sardine, ponmo & crayfish.

The whole history of the modern USA is built on propaganda, and a lot of people don't know it...

hungryboy:
Classic Putin,

Only gays and neocons will compare Obama to this guy.

Real men love Putin

mii4u:
They better go and read abt Israel and their relationship with God before making a fool of themselves

The fact that God, by virtue of His convenant with Abraham, will always defend Isreal when the need arises, doesnt mean He is in support of their evil deeds. Revelations 2 vs 9, and Rev. 3 vs 9. - for most of them now are not even of the seed of Abraham. But they must continue still until the time of the Gentiles is fulfilled, Then the Jewish time-piece will start running, and the full restoration of Isreal shall be complete.

Nevertheless, no man can wipe Israel from the world map. Its simply not in God's calender. But it doesnt mean they cant lose a war.

Zoharariel:
A lot have been said & written about the “Magrav Technology” which was developed by the Iranian scientist “Mehran Keshe” even though some AngloZionist keyboard defenders like Missy89 & ValenrianSteel do not believe it exist.

Several years ago, Mehran Keshe offered his Magrav patents for free use to all countries and governments with the aim of promoting peace & progress of humanity.

It is believed that the Magrav Technology was used by the Russians to disable & rendered comatose, all the electronics aboard the Amerikan aircraft carrier - USS Theodore Roosevelt after she was detected on a course towards the operating zone of the Russian Northern Fleet which President Putin had put on full combat alert in response to a “State of War” threat detected from the United Kingdom.

President Putin himself gave the order to “target and disable” the USS Theodore Roosevelt, after which 3 nuclear-powered Akula-class submarines belonging to the 24th Submarine Division of the Northern Fleet (NF) successfully “war-gamed” the American aircraft carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt causing it to “flee in terror” towards the waters off the Hampshire coast in the United Kingdom. (Hahahaaaaaa! Una never see anything).

“Magrav technology”, its import to note, was conceived by the Iranian-born nuclear engineer Mehran Keshe, but whose works are banned from public use in the United States under an Executive Order signed by President Obama on 23 April 2012.

President Obama’s signing of his Executive Order against “magrav technology” was due to the Iranian’s using it to down, and then capture one of Amerika's most secretive & sophisticated drones in December, 2011 (The RQ-170 sentinel), and then Iran sharing this new weapon with Syria too.

Immediately upon President Obama banning “magrav technology” in 2012, it should also be noted, Mehran Keshe replied to the Amerikan leader in an open letter by stating:

[b]“Your Excellency President Obama,

We offer you a path towards real world peace through the development of this new technology for the whole human race.

I invite you to a direct presentation of our technology to you and your cabinet, to be given on neutral ground where the president of Iran could also be present and where no one betrays anyone else, so that we can all understand the fundamental change that is about to be brought to mankind. Then let us talk about genuine world peace.

As I said in my Sunday interview in Los Angeles, let us convert the military factories of the US to provide resources for a US space organization, so that the tools of war become the craft of universal peace.

The aircraft carriers of the US will become nothing but floating bathtubs if our Magrav’s technology is used effectively, and the runways full of F16s and 18s and so on will be nothing but runway museums of iron birds, as these craft will not be able to fly if their electronic systems are once touched by Magrav’s space technology. These crafts and battleships would have to be rewired from A to Z before they could ever operate again.

President Obama, we invite you to understand this change and to let us show you the technology that is bringing it about. Then we invite you to the table of world peace.

Please sign a decree for genuine peace and not a gagging order for science and technology, which your people understand fully what we have developed as they try to protect the pride of your nation.

This is not a question of the pride of one group or country, but pride for all of us in the advancement of the human race to new levels of understanding of the universal order of creation, in which we each have our place.

Your Ambassador and Consul in Belgium have direct access to me from our previous talks and correspondence with them and would pass on any communication.

With kindest regards from a peace-loving man who has developed this powerful technology for the good of mankind.”[/b]

Sadly, it has cost the Obama government the humiliating defeat of two of its overrated warships since his banning of “magrav technology” in 2012, with the total disablement of the USS Donald Cook last year, the war game “sinking” of the USS Theodore Roosevelt a few weeks ago, and now, today, this same aircraft carrier floating disabled off the UK coast, to realize the truth of Mehran Keshe’s warning him that “the aircraft carriers of the US will become nothing but floating bathtubs”.

Based on keshe's letter to Obama & Russia's humiliation of the 2 Amerikan aircraft carriers - USS Theodore Roosevelt & USS Donald Cook; I therefore conclude that Iran can indeed shut down Israel within 30minutes if not in 8minutes. Israel is only invincible & insurmountable on paper as proven by Hezbollah in the 2006 Israel/Lebanon war - Nagode!


Picture: The overrated & defeated floating bathtub named USS Theodore Roosevelt receiving fresh air at the Hampshire coast in the UK


Source: www.stankovuniversallaw.com/2015/03/how-the-new-iranian-russian-technology-magrav-checkmate-the-us-navy/

Obama banned something that "doesnt exist", while France sunk the Theodore Roosevelt using a 30 year old catapult. plus Iran commandeering and capturing the most advanced US stealth drone ever, using witchcraft; so says US apologists.

You can even immagine the consternation and shock on the faces of those Hampshire residents as they lined up the shoreside to behold the surprise berthing of the unfortunate Theodore roosevelt, gasping for breath. Many of them must be wondering what such a gigantic ship is doing here - if only they knew that huge bathroom basing was running for its dear life, after encountering the Russian Alienic descendants of Karl El, underneath the Smallville of the Black sea.

Amerika Overhyped "unbeatable status" keeps getting uncladed before the very eyes of the general public.

Propaganda is a bad fowl that always comes home to roost, no matter how successful it has been in its disinformation wanderings.

Lucasbalo:
You are completely right. It baffles my imagination that the prisons are being turned to money makers.

You can immagine...

Missy89:
Yea it is something. In some countries, you do the work for free (hard labor sentences)
Prison deaths is more of a local and state problem not a federal one. That is why some of them thinks it is a good idea to privatize it.

I see. But i still dont like that idea of privitization. Prisons are meant to be correctional centres, with the aim of discouraging crime and rebranding the mental disposition of the criminal minds so they can be refitted consciously like a new borns back into the society. But when that same prison becomes another nightmare where you witness devastating crimes like murder, taking place right there before you, the purpose and spirit of the correctional system is totally defeated. Now, if the Prison system and its security under government, are not able to solve or handle this predicament, what is the guarantee that private owners would care less or more? The only area i can guarantee their commitment is in the area of infrastuctural maintenance. And its because they will need it for the profits they are going to make through the various works and inputs from the inmates, just like what you mentioned earlier.

Believe me, this is one hell of a problem that still need to be redress.

Missy89:
You are actually more likely to be man handled or killed by a cop if you are NOT black according to the statistics. Liberal reactionaries over exaggerate everything.

Really? Interesting. I would love to see that statistics of yours posted here, because, the facts that emanated from last year, known as "year of the black guns," shows that Police killed at least 102 unarmed black people in 2015, nearly twice each week.

Nearly 1 in 3 black people killed by police in 2015 were identified as unarmed, though the actual number is likely higher due to underreporting. 37% of unarmed people killed by police were black in 2015 despite black people being only 13% of the U.S. population. Compare that to the numbers of whites killed same year.Unarmed black people were killed at 5x the rate of unarmed whites in 2015 Only 10 of the 102 cases in 2015 where an unarmed black person was killed by police resulted in officer(s) being charged with a crime, and only 2 of these deaths (Matthew Ajibade and Eric Harris) resulted in convictions of officers involved. Only 1 of 2 officers convicted for their involvement in Matthew Ajibade's death received jail time.
He was sentenced to 1 year in jail and allowed to serve this time exclusively on weekends. (immagine the insult to justice.)

I think one major overlooked problem with the US justice system, especially in the enforcement of law, is the ugly issue of racial profiling. And this is increasingly getting worse to the extent that, revenge killings and racial revenge attacks, are being encouraged. We saw what happened after Michael Brown was killed, some groups of black buddies immediately beat up some white guys, almost killing one in the process. If this dangerous incidents are not handled in due time, they might come back to haunt on the long run. They have the tendency of undermining state security and unleashing mayhem in the sociological order of society.

Missy89:
Polls show an independent candidate can actually win

Indepedent candidate? Believe me, if the Repubs tries that, they would only be making more fun of themselves. The popularity of Trump will increase the more among the people, many of ehom will surely interprete it as a "fear factor" This things always have a way of becoming a blessing in disguise.

ValerianSteel:
Justice reforms need to be implemented to cut back on high incarceration.

I concur. And if reforms are to be implemented, it must encompasses police high handedness and interaction with members of society, especially in areas predominantly occupied by certain races.

Missy89:
Private prisons are now a big business in the US

The inmates make a lot of products most people dont even know about. From furniture, Clothes, food, military supplies, electronics etc

They earn between $0.25 to 1.50 an hour

Yeah, but at least, is better than earning nothing at all while been locked away. The only thing that i find disturbing about US Prisons is the increasing rate at which inmates are dying. The ugly situation keep getting uglier.

ShinnBet:
Clinton is one scandal away from Jail.


That lying b1tc will never make the white house

Who told you that? Hillary is going to win the elections.....Only when the White House turns into Black House.

Vorpal:
Won't this put a dent on Hilary's political campaign?

I dont think so.

TonyeBarcanista:
This is a real scandal

a very bad one. People should be more aware about their environment, especially when you are a prominent figure.

How it must hurt now to realise that the most silly lie of all times - the US govt owing itself much of the debt - has been adequately and totally disproved and and massacred by factual submission on the alter of truth. That alone is enough for all truthers down here. The Federal Reserve can continue screwing the US for all i care. my heart and sympathy goes only to the unsuspecting innocent Americans. And when the TrumpSter shall begin to sound come the G battle, the mystery of Amerika's strange financial marriage should be finish, and all hell will break lose. Till then, my Senorita. Remain bless. bye byeee

More babel in addition to cheap propaganda, especially coming from someone who invented the new theory that a trading company can wind up operations, layoff workers as long the stocks keeps rising. Something tells me you're living close to room 112, Snoop Dog's block in the hood...and the hypnotizing smell of them weed must be getting to you... ..cos you keep descending down the isle of microscopic views with reckless abandone and persistent inconsistency.

Good that now you agree the Federal Reserve is privately own. Now, if the US government decides to pay its share of the FR debt, the money would go to the private owners, abi? How come you and your fellow propagandist conscius cum eo were saying the government owes such money to itself? Or did you say hi to Snoop last night.? ;-)

Okay! Now take and deduct the FR share from the 66.plus% of the alledged debt the govt owes itself, then add to the 34.plus% of the outside debt; come back and tell me what we gat. I guess the realization must be a shocking jolt back to reality.

Now here are some FACTS about the FRS that you would never want to be true.

Contrary to what you want to believe, the FRS is in the very heart of US economic problems. Its a banking system created by bankers and its operated to suit the needs of the bankers - all of which are privately own, and some coown by foreign elements. Its no secret that the FR bails out foreign banks and gives to such at ridiculous rates.

The Federal Reserve openly admits that the 12 regional Federal Reserve banks are organized “ much like private corporations.“ And the regional Federal Reserve banks issue ''shares of stock'' to the “member banks” that own them.

The secret November 1910 gathering at Jekyll Island, Georgia during which the plan for the Federal Reserve was hatched was attended by U.S. Senator Nelson W. Aldrich, Assistant Secretary of the Treasury Department A.P. Andrews and a whole host of representatives from the top echelon of the Wall Street banking establishment.

Since the advent of the FR, the US have experienced 10 different torturous economic recessions. The Satan bank created the “dotcom bubble”, the “housing bubble” and right now it has created the largest bond bubble ever known to planet earth.

The FRS is a perpetual debt machine that keep pushing US debt up and up like Elijah's ascension on chariots of fire. The system is wired in such that when more money is created, more debts are created as a compliment.
For instance, if the Federal govt want to spend more money than it takes in, it goes to the FR, gives it Treasury bonds, and the FR then give the FG Federal Reserve notes, in return. And this is usually done electronically.

Now where did it get the notes from? Question for Zoharariel and Cyprus.

It just got it printed from thin air.

The FG, Instead of issuing money directly, let the FR create it out of thin air and then the U.S. government borrows it.

Talk about silly.

When this new debt is created, the amount of interest payable by the U.S. govt that wasn't there at the first place, becomes avaliable when the puppet govt eventually goes back to its masters to secure more money to finance the ever expanding debt that has now entrapped it.
It is a debt spiral and a perpetual money supply designed to constantly expand under the FRS. That explain why so many Americans have all become accustomed to thinking of inflation as “normal”.
The FR later sells of the U.S. Treasury bonds that it gets from the U.S. government to mostly same bankers, and few others out there that have made a ton of money by holding U.S. government debt.
One can recall In fiscal 2011, the U.S. government paid out 454 billion dollars just in interest on the national debt. That is 454 billion dollars that was taken out of people's pockets and put into the pockets of wealthy individuals and foreign governments around the globe.

And the nonesense you hear is that '' the govt owes the money to itself.''

pathetic.


Official report has it that the FR gave a whooping 16.1 trillion to banks in secret deals. I guess the bulk of it ends up in govt confines? It wouldnt have be so secret afterall.

Its on record that the head of such a sensitive national body is one hell of a scam, incompetent and a lying maniac. Yet, he remains the head. So much for ''government control.

Its on record that the FR is so powerful that it is currently been refered to as the ''fourth tier of government.'' Powerful to the extent that Congress is almost becoming irrelevant in its scheme of business. The very reason why some Congressionals are now calling for its head.


How propaganda must suck!

Am done discussing this silly topic.

bookface:
I never said the US owes all the massive debt to itself. what i said was that most of the debt are owed to the Federal reserve and to Americans. A little Google search could have saved you from some embarrassment. 67.5% of all US debt is owned to US federal reserve and American citizens. That's a fact, which i know conspiracy nuts like you and Shymeex would rather not do with.

Oh, bookface, who has bewitched thee, a cold blooded Nigerian, to drink such cheap propangada water? Gaddamit! Did i hear you say ''Federal Reserve''? Who owns the FR, gringo? Have you so soon forgotten that the FR is a privately own institution with enormous power that makes it almost invisible to governmental checks and control? The shameless id1ots called Federal Reserve even openly admitted to the fact that it is privately owned. [b]When it was defending itself against a Bloomberg request for information under the Freedom of Information Act, the Federal Reserve stated unequivocally in court that it was “not an agency” of the federal government and therefore not subject to the Freedom of Information Act.[b] (is any American listening? )
In fact, if you want to find out that the Federal Reserve system is owned by the member banks, all you have to do is go to the Federal Reserve website. The truth is that it is a privately owned central bank. It is owned by the banks that are members of the Federal Reserve system, which alot of Americans don't even know. However, its difficult to know accurately how much of the system each bank owns, because that has never been officially disclosed to the American people.

Another thing you must understand is that foreign government and foreign banks do own significant interests in the member banks that operates the FRS, and so one can argue that the FR is significantly own by foreign elements.

And this is the same body that stands as creditor to 67% of US debt. Who does the government owe the debt now? You see why ''conspiracy nuts'' like us don't fall for cheap propaganda?


And talking about the ''original sin,'' well, thats neither here nor there.

There’s so much misinformation and propaganda about this; and some of the biggest lies out there about the US debt is that:

1. “They can, and does have it under control.”

What a massive lie.

Politicians have been saying for decades that they’re going to cut spending and get the debt under control.
FACT: The last time the US debt actually decreased from one fiscal year to the next was back in 1957 during the EISENHOWER administration.
And its no secret that For the last several years, the US government has been spending roughly 90% of its ENTIRE tax revenue just to pay for mandatory entitlement programs and interest on the debt. (so you owe yourself money, pay interest to service your own self, and still create tax and investment processes to realize returns and meet obligations on your own self. This was what the Securities and Exchange Commission, not quite long, called a Ponzi scheme)
This leaves almost nothing for practically everything else one can think of as government.

Yet there is the bone of contention that:

2) “The debt doesn’t matter because we owe it to ourselves.” (the US government)

This is the biggest lie of all. Two of the Social Security trust funds alone (OASI and DI) own as much as $2.72 trillion of US debt. (and we all know how they work.)
The federal government owes this money to current and future beneficiaries of those trust funds, i.e. EVERY SINGLE US CITIZEN ALIVE.
Heck! I fail to see the silver lining here. How is it somehow ‘better’ if the government defaults on its citizens as opposed to, say, banks?

The bottomline is this: every debt owed are to be paid and must be paid, whether to foreigners, friends or foes. And if the US government is to pay its debt now, the bulk of it would go to its reciepients - foreign creditors, the FR, and every US citizen alive and so qualified - all of which are privately independent; and only a fraction of the damn thing would return as income from tax and reinvestments. This is the fundamental principle of every debt. They are meant to be paid to someone else, and thats a FACT!

I don't intend to reply your future posts.

No qualms, bro. Nice digging with you.

Shym3xx:
Missy89

USA
GDP: $17.419 trillion
Debt: $19.3 trillion
Foreign reserve: $118 billion
Population: 318.9 million

Russia
GDP: $3.493 trillion
Foreign reserve: $392 billion
Debt: $538.1 billion
Population: 143.5 million

If I were to choose between the two - I'd rather be Russia than US right now. And even if they were to sell the US - they won't be able to pay back the enormous debt. Leading a fake life doesn't make you a boss - how debt free you're makes you one.

P.S: don't bother to reply - I'm not interested in reading amala propaganda from an Ibadan chic living on a PC in Langley.

Out.

And perhaps the most annoying, silly and unintelligent comment you will see from some of these propagandist like one called bookface or facebook, is that, ''the US owes the massive debt to itself.''

What a babel!

Zoharariel:
Appleyard of Moskow - But Missy said it doesn't matter as long as their stocks keep rising.

Your stocks are rising and you keep closing up your stores.

That was the most ridiculous statement from her ever.

NairaMinted:
The only thing missing from this is accompanying pics of cities such as Flint, Michigan; Camden, New Jersey; South side, Chicago and pictures of thousands of homeless people spread across several cities in Amerika - just for illustration purpose.

GDP ko, PDP ni

Don't mind them. You're pointing to the moth in another man's eyes, but yet to even acknowledge the one in your own eyes, not to mention removing it first. Thats the zenith of hypocrisy, and a regretable clout on their analytical prowess.

America today is refered to as the ''poorest rich nation'' on earth, for glaring reasons, like the ones we have expantiated on so far. And it keeps coming: the increasing cost of living standards and the ever increasing inequality between the various classes.

I recall Mr Fraser, head of Feed America - the largest NGO in the US, explained that his organization gives food to 37 million people each year, and that the panorama has become bleaker in recent years: “Between 35 and 38 million Americans suffered food insecurity - the term used for those who have no certainty they’ll eat every day - between 2001 and 2006; that figure rose to 49 million in 2007, when the recession hit. Since then it’s been hovering between 49 and 50 million people.”
I don't even need to unravel more on inequality.

But trust those one-sided viewers and terrorists apologists to only chant the mantra - Russia is crumbling, the breadline queues are getting longer, (as if they are the ones distributing the bread,) blah blah.. But you won't hear them ever mentioning the gradual but continuous descent of the US into economic abyss, with an official debt exceeding official GDP, yet these clowns still have the moral audacious effrontary to talk about being the wealthiest - can somebody pls show them the circus? No, damn it, Zoharariel, Russia is poor and its the only economy thats dying. But they won't tell you like Ghandaf, the ''curse of the oil,'' nor will they ever mention the others facing the heat - how Satan Arabia is adjusting here and readjusting there, privatising and laying down here and there, Brazil in turmoil, Ecuador in Pain, Nigeria in anguish, Angola in awe, Venezuella bleeding, UAE sweating, and Canada even have to borrow to finance its budget..

None of these are happening... They are just ''conspiracy theories.''

Just as it is conspiracy theory that Iran ''commandeered and captured'' alive the most advance US stealth drone with a technology unknown to Pentagon.
And its even more of a conspiracy theory when the French Naval Forces in an exercise last year sunk the US fleet Carrier, Theodore Roosevelt, along with some of its accompanying vessels, by a 30 years old submarine, using which technology? Ghadafi's gold dinar, i guess.

Its even more of a conspiracy theory that Ghadafi was labelled as a ''threat to the global financial order,'' by France and its partners in crime. (How on earth was Libya a threat to the world financial order, other than the gold dinar push, vis the Dollar, oil and Franc notes...) ...not forgeting the CIA-led rebels setting up their own Central Bank within weeks of the uprising...
At this point i shook my head in pity for the lost souls in propaganda and western zombie-ism.

And the ''conspiracy theory'' chant is summed up when one of my begotten rebellious daughter, divorced by the legendary SirShymmex/shymm3x, and espoused to Prophet Zoharariel, first son of Olusegun Mohammadu Putin; opined that the likes of Walmarts and many other companies closing shops or laying off numerous workers, filing for bankruptcy, etc, is nothing, as long as the stocks keeps rising, according to her.
Oh, nairaminted, pls tell me.. If companies are closing up centres, laying off workers, filing for bankruptcy, what does it mean? What is happening? And if the stocks of such companies is still rising in the midst of the prevailing circumstances, isn't that an indicator of ''how fake, how ruse, and slipshodly sham'' the system is?

Why should Nairaminted & Zoharariel group of Coy. be closing shops, laying of workers, filing for bankrupcy, if the company stocks are doing well and all is ceteris paribus?

This must be the newest economic theory developed by Saddam Hussein.. Cyprus000 must hear this, tag it, and fax it to the Kremlin.

Can somebody show these jokers the way to the circus playground., Soros is there waiting...