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what thread is this that everyone is getting so worked up about?

MacDaddy01: Ooman.....Ooman....Ooman......


How many times did I call you?


Were you buttuhurt in that Muskeeto's thread that you had to come up with this? Is it because we didnt accept your pseudoscience?


You have sunk really low....to even agree with Davidylan on atheists is the lowest of lows.


You have been found guilty of crimes of atheist blasphemy and treason

By the powers granted to me by the Grand Wizards and Scientists of athiesm, I hereby sentence you to 1 week banishment from the religion section.

Insolent fool

Sacré bleu!!!! you forgot the almighty FSM!! Sacrilege!!!

Pastor Kun: You have forgotten God created the animals as well. Even we human beings are physically animals albeit higher animals so no qualms if the creator should decide to create more than one specie in his image. But only humans were created in his likeness

I'll wait for your explanation when Curiosity find fossils on mars. So far so good they've got all the elements to support life, not too long now.

I guess you have a few months from now to prepare your argument that your creator also created other life forms away from here and forgot to tell us about it

ooman: Embryological similarities and genetic analysis confirms homology as fact. If you do not accept scientific evidence, what evidence would you possibly accept? Which makes it seem like even if we were to find all fossils, which is virtually impossible, you wont still drop your myths.

Mate, you are wasting your time with him. Hardcore believers will always find ways to defend their belief no matter what. Just read your dialogue with him so far and he seems to evade good argument even when slapped in the face with it. He's good lol (in a bad way)

When a guy says "at best it is just another theory", I stop talking to them , Cos they are deeply dishonest. The earth rotating around our sun is a theory too but u never hear them say "that's just a theory"

JeSoul: Indeed it is! I have not said anywhere that it isn't. I merely gave a simple analogy that is throwing you all off - and I'm not sure why.

And please what is your understanding of 'forgiveness'? To let criminals go free?

what would Jesus do?

Master Yoda

https://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100917233512/starwars/images/e/e0/Yoda_SWSB.jpg

Logicboy03: smh......and with the highlighted expalanation, she thinks that she has explained why God can't just forgive mankind. lol

I am becoming scared of these absurd twisting of logic to accomodate a "loving but sacrifice-supporting" God

NO mind them. They are blinded by their very own analogies too..

Let me help her. The real situation is, the "accused" that harmed your close family member is also your close family member. Even at that you still wouldn't forgive? or then this time it's different?. Be honest to yourself for once JeSoul

I taya for Christians oh

JeSoul: Lol. Closet atheist? you may want to re-read my post.

This thread is for uncle Uyi but lemme spell it out in case anyone else wondered: I am a christian. I believe in God. I believe in the bible. I believe in the saving power of the gospel of Jesus Christ. And I walk everyday with the cross of Christ on my shoulder and His example in my heart. And I will believe all the above both here on earth and in the afterlife after I pass.

Closet atheist? as I once rapped in one of my tunes...

I'd rather die a thousand deaths and 1
than be ashamed of the Father, Spirit & Son

Cheers friend Alfa.

@ the bolded. What now differentiates you from a radical Muslim?

Kamsy10: over sabi. Why ddint you bring it to nairaland if you knew about it since 1993

ignorance is bliss isn't it?

lol..

All this and they are actually less than 2km from the sea

The Japs always have a crazy idea they can make real.


quite old though.. been open since 1993 and it makes headline news on Nairaland in 2013. Go figure

The beauty of it is that no one is forcing any belief system on you. We only encourage you to HONESTLY scrutinize the biblical claims of a loving god, when even us as human beings can exhibit more love than that.


This is the first step, You'll find more problems with the Abrahamic god than just his supposedly "loving" nature.

Keep thinking

Segeggs: who was talking to u?

its a public forum.. when you make stupid anti-semitic comments like those, be glad that someone can jump in and set you straight

Segeggs: the whiteman didnt accept him;they went as far as killing him.so wat r u saying?

you are on cheap drugs

[quote author=sofa-dj]o god of creation,[/quote]when was the last time you ever sang that version of the anthem?

secondly; clearly the foundations of our country was built on values of the colonial masters which was deeply religious at the time. Understandably so as the anthem refers to a vague appeal to an undefined "god" to help us uphold our pledge. If you think properly about it, you'll find plenty holes in your logic

Pretty pointless if you ask me. I can just keep quiet during the pledge or even the entire anthem, and no one will even notice. This doesn't make me any less patriotic than you. So where is the problem?
Do you watch football? how many footballers sing along to their national anthem (that is; hoping they even know it)

Plenty national anthems have this pledge to "god" in them. None of them have bothered to defined the particular god

10 quid says you never read even one of those books from start to finish. Much more the entire bible

well, Shaquille o'neal and Yao ming will pwn this short angel

oh and first line, you mean 7' not 7"

... double post

andrewza: people act like think America has a gun problem. while lets look.

https://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k247/dhm1353/Abort1.png

First of all, source this chat please.. Cos this chart is misleading as the firearms text box is in red but the pie slice in red is on non motor accident. looks a bit poorly constructed by abortion hating rednecks

Secondly, look at the pie chat and list out the problems that can be prevented against the ones that can be prevented

Even if firearms kill 10 people a year, that's 10 too many

^^ I believe in moderation.

Sometimes, some forms of satire go a bit too far. Besides being disrespectful to Ratzinger, it is quite uncalled for. and for godsake my EYES

I can understand the problem that this creates in the sense that religious leaders are not "leading" by example. However, speculations and rumors can always pop out on basically anyone. With no sound fact, we cant start pointing the finger just yet.

Let them deal with their gay issues while we dismantle the core of their Abrahamic religion

ooman4: dont you ever get tired of this dumb post.

I mock God and he can kill me if he can

you think i will start crying my head off, think again.

lol.. easy mate! hahahahaah you really don't like yaweh at all...
you take it a wee bit too personal

ooman4: dont ask twice, have you not read the bible, how the xtian god committed multiple genocide and racism and rap.e and misjudgment.

the xtian and the muslim god are two cruel satanists, only lucifer can defeat them.

LOL!! indeed.. when one thinks of a vengeful, genocidal, misogynistic dictator god, Yaweh comes to mind first.. not surprising since he is the god of war

That hombre is a badass

Ermmm.. one question, which god is responsible for punishing these people?

valiacademy: A very good point. In the same manner, when we go to the laboratory of history and discuss with a few people, they can relate to us their undeniable encounter with the supreme being called God.

Lets look at the difference here shall we?

case 1: You look through a microscope and see with your eyes the microbes in question

case 2: you discuss with people on their undeniable encounter..


notice any difference with both cases?

valiacademy: Thank you for your comment. But think about it. If i decide for any reason to remain silent for the rest of my life, does that deny my existence?

well, you never said anything about being invincible, so if you were mute, at least I would see you

valiacademy: I havent heard a word from HIV and other microbes, havent even seen one of them. Yet I know they exist from the effect of their activities.

[quote author=valiacademy]your analogy is as poor as you choose to reason. Yea, you haven't seen any microbe, why is that? cos you choose not to. get to a lab and discuss with a few people on how they can arrange for you to look down a microscope and see microbes for yourself.

Besides that, their effect can be felt, measured and observed. Your god cannot accomplish all three qualities and is most likely made up

oh yea?

missionary style is also a form of abstinence

This is actually how stupid what you just said sounds. I hope you are clever enough to connect the dots

lol..@omonna... that is some strong referencing right there hahaha

I guess that puts this case to bed

@topic: There is nothing more disappointing than religionists perpetrating lies just to assure themselves they are in the right. This goes down with the same foolish stories I read about "I picked up a man and he said god instructed the angels to blow their trumpet and Jesus fell on his feet to plead for us..." (u get the gist). Einstein was an average kid going through school and certainly didn't have any such conversation with anyone, much more a professor.

Some how you guys feel the need to whack in a reputable name into your stories and expect to get absolute acceptance without scrutiny. I've said it so many times on this forum and I'll say it again. This sort of careful selective disinformation and story fabrications for selfish purposes is very bad for a society like Nigeria. We don't need to look far into the past to see what it has done to others.

There's a reason we all have a brain, and it certainly isn't to swallow everything that comes our way
Lets Pause and ponder sometimes

sparko1: And you know this how?

"I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it. "(Albert Einstein, 1954)

"I believe in Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the orderly harmony of what exists, not in a God who concerns himself with the fates and actions of human beings." (Albert Einstein)

"A knowledge of the existence of something we cannot penetrate, of the manifestations of the profoundest reason and the most radiant beauty - it is this knowledge and this emotion that constitute the truly religious attitude; in this sense, and in this alone, I am a deeply religious man." (Albert Einstein)

The man pretty much said it himself

the bolded is my favourite

lol.. its kinda funny how they snuck in a picture of Carl Sagan. Who can resist the urge to do so?

Being crazy of astronomy myself, I find the need for a supreme being diminishing the further we go away from our tiny rock called earth.

If our solar system suddenly exploded today, our milkyway will not even flinch much more the Universe. I do hope people can save up a little and buy a small telescope.You'll expose yourself to immense possibility you never even imagined.

Oh and why is Alpha centauri looking a bit further away than Tau ceti? the latter is three times further away than Centauri if i remember right


Edit: On a second look, the interstellar space map is not to scale but still holds the general idea.. Nice one

snthesis: now lets look at scientific evidence (which by the way i dont approve) can the Atheist/evolutionist disprove the creation sequence as recorded in the bible i.e. starting with the world being without form, and ending with the creation of man.

I'm honestly exhausted from pointing out the problems with this crappy story, so I'll just point out the obvious;

Lets start with the basic idea shall we?


Creation of Day and Night "Day" 1
Creation of Heaven (sky) "Day" 2
Creation of the Earth, the Seas, and the Plants "Day" 3
Creation of the Sun, the Moon, and the Stars "Day" 4
Creation of Fishes and Birds [Beginning of Sexual Reproduction] "Day" 5
Creation of Land Animals (Cattle, Insects, Reptiles, Man) "Day" 6
No Further Emergence of Life Forms on Earth / day of rest "Day" 7

now to the issues;

1) we all know day and night is caused by the rotation of our earth about its axis. This also needs the sun to be stationary and fully created while our earth also fully created for Day and night to be possible.

2)kinda vague what they mean by heaven.. I'll help you believers out and say.. "maybe the original thought was lost in translation?". (However, if this is the case, how then can you trust the rest of the story? .. lol discussion for another time)

3) Again, a HUGE number of plants need insects like bees and the lot to help transfer pollen in order to reproduce. SO it is funny to create plants first without this consideration.
A few days ago, a meteor of about a few inches across struck northern Russia and wreaked havoc with only its sonic boom. A day after that, another asteroid about 50m across past within 17,000 miles of our earth. Seeing how common this is, and knowing how often we have been pummeled over time, it is easy to see where most of our water came from. Comets! large balls of ice floating around our solar system. A few of those will surely sort our plumbing right

4) So then he created our sun, moon and stars around the same time?.. wow! what a load of rubbish. We can see galaxies of up to 13 billion light years away while our sun is around 5 billion years old. That makes the sun at least 8 Billion years younger (and please don't give me that thousand years = 1 day bullshit). Remember, there is no measure of "day" without the sun


5) Fish and bird? really? archaeological evidence shows us that fish-like creatures existed millions of years before birds. again, 1000years = 1day?, I'll give you that

6) So after all his confused creation, the then decided to put some land animals (although some amphibious animals must have been doing the magic from water to land just a day earlier (oh wait.. was that a thousand years earlier?? )

7) After it all, he had to kick back, relax, have a beer and feel good with himself (day of rest). All powerful, all knowing, all wonderful, all awesome, all everything god needs to rest? really what a douche


If you genuinely believe this, I'll rank you at the same level with a 5 year old that believes humpty dumpty actually did fall off a wall

ayswags: i laugh at ur ignorance oo so u mean some miracles dat happen are mere coicidence abi

I'll be happy for you to point at one credible "miracle" that happened.

we'll be better informed who the ignorant one is

ayobase: It will be DISASTROUSLY too late for you....my chance is 50-50 and urs is 100-0!

I'm a better player buddy!

Go listen or read urself again, your post is based on assumption, no one SIMPLE fact!

Jesus Christ was around some years back, and he was seen going into heaven......abi u think sey Bible na AROKO!

"I am the way the truth and the life, no one comes to the father, except through me"

Human beings, we found it very hard to be under submission...always looking for reasons to justify acts!

I'm sorry mate, I don't agree with you.

You base all your facts on a book that was written by human beings like you and me (albeit less educated than both of us) and yet you give them 100% credibility. Isn't that a slave mentality? Taking everything you are told hook line and sinker without question. What about thinking for yourself with your "god" given brain? no pun intended

You interpret the past with what you have today. You need to realize there was no tape recorder at that time, no xerox machine and everything was done on word of mouth. We both agree that word of mouth is hardly reliable.

Ever played Chinese whispers ?

ayswags: When they die they will know if hell exist or not

Its kinda funny that you put all your hopes on something you are told with no evidence. Read the joke below and see how ridiculous the idea of a heaven is

"A man arrives at the gates of heaven. St. Peter asks, "Religion?" The man says, "Methodist." St. Peter looks down his list, and says, "Go to room 24, but be very quiet as you pass room 8." Another man arrives at the gates of heaven. "Religion?"
"Baptist."
"Go to room 18, but be very quiet as you pass room 8." A third man arrives at the gates. "Religion?"
"Jewish."
"Go to room 11, but be very quiet as you pass room 8." The man says, "I can understand there being different rooms for different religions, but why must I be quiet when I pass room 8?" St. Peter tells him, "Well the Jehovah's Witnesses are in room 8, and they think they're the only ones here."