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I dey see pepper soup!! come on guys! the aim of a food fight is not to hurt people but make a mess! Pepper soup?? wow! some peeps are not smiling |
DANILSA: The women that sells Garri and beans @ kubwa mkt, u remember shee?ah! that one, I remember her lol but seriously though, I dunno who Oteh is...... "To the Google mobile...." |
So what did that guy do with his pumpy na? na just to bring am out? ![]() I wana see James bond shooting!! |
lol! who is Oteh again? ![]() |
CHESSBOARD:LOOOL its a trick you do with your heart to stop it from beating when you score 3 goals ![]() |
They are busy fighting themselves on another thread ![]() https://www.nairaland.com/1025026/describe-country-one-word |
Pysam: See what is happening o my fellow country men.if you re to pay or receive money today from ekiti just accept the little delay as most banks re closed doors today for the fear of arm robbers attack . Rumours was every where today for possible for of arm robbery attack in Adoekiti, most of the banks from Adebayo to fajuyi and even the busy old garage have locked out customers leaving many persons stranded.though the first bank @ Adebayo attended to customers before the news got to them.this is nija where anything can happenWhose hand do they want to steal?? |
Well, we can all see how stubborn these apologetics can get. Even in the face of so much counter argument/overwhelming rebuttal and king kong size debunking, he still cant see past his silly foundational bias. ![]() Sad part is, he is actually one of the "good" ones. Bothering to research a little (poorly done as it seems) and using that to defend what he believes in. The ones we should worry about are them that have no clue of anything else in life except what their holy book tells them. What else can make a man blow up himself and believe he is doing a the will of an "all loving" god? Sick |
Its always a good comic relief to watch Christians frantically trying to defend the confusion in their faith. While ending up looking even more silly than the question at hand ![]() |
abysirius: This perhaps must have crossed a lot of minds at the thought of the ridiculous tuition fees that most of these private universities (most especially churches owned schools) charge their student. Come to think of it, these schools are built with church funds yet it is only the rich, I mean 'very rich' that are only capable of sending their children to these schools.To be honest, this is no different from extorting the congregation only to buy a gulf stream g550! I mean what the hell !? I can understand the economics involved, but why not continue the Sunday collection in the name of a subsidy to drastically reduce cost? also publish their financial sheet so everyone can see! A church doesn't need to rake in profits from an establishment as a school, all they need to do is break even.Sadly, making profit is the name of the game for these churches! How many of them have built factories to employ staff? how many of them embark in extensive community water projects? I can only name a few! The aim here is obvious to a blind man. Profit, Profit, and more Profit. "Good measure, pressed down, shaken together and running over" ![]() |
How many of us cannot point out an Igbo man when u see one?? Now look at those pictures again? can you point out an Igbo face there? No!!! Just lame!!! ![]() |
Just as they arrested "Abu Kudi", his cohorts strike again ![]() |
[quote author=Mr_Anony]Well your argument comes in the form that you are judging the intelligence of the universe based on how well it is made for your existence. That is a wrong way to look at it. Order is what implies an order-giver and not whether it is convenient for you or not. As I have said ever so often, God is not your genie. If you would gracious enough, let us look at the God Abraham served. This is a God who is omnipotent, omniscient, all-sufficient, all-loving etc. But notice one thing about Him: at a time when other people were serving gods from their imagination, and making images according to the form they thought their gods to be, this God insisted that no images be made of Him. God is so all-encompassing that no image could possibly explain what He looks like. We may describe God in anthropomorphic terms so as to aid us in understanding His person but that is not how God literally is.[/quote]Funny thing is, if you were born Indian you'll be saying the same thing about Krishna and the lot of them. The sad part is you forget that we all here have also had the same indoctrination and brainwashing you have had. Telling us a bunch of middle eastern peasants got it right! not a chance hombre! Again, all the qualities of your god you have listed out cannot be felt on earth! what did Epicurus say? "Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God? " ![]() |
[quote author=Mr_Anony]You should really read my argument in full. The evidence provided for God is creation itself. I would like you to note that in matters of evidence, evidence is only as valuable as it's explanation. I.e. a fact is only evidence depending on how it is read. I look at the intelligence in the universe and say that it is evidence of an intelligent being, you look at the same universe and say that it is not. The question now arises: How else do you explain the intelligent order of the universe?[/quote]I did read your write up in full and I decided to chip in on that flying man argument as it was the most silly looking if I'm honest. Now you stick to confusing yourself even further; You might have a small escape route here when you say evidence of intelligence is a factor of the observer. This is similar to the same pink unicorn argument (in reverse) that was presented to you. One person looks at it and says "yep, it is real" and the other says "nah, it isn't". But then again is that the point here? No! Just like saying the earth is so beautiful and we can survive on it then it must be the creation of a god. Well, Saturn and Venus will blow your mind to smithereens and yet they are both very deadly places to be, so where is this strange order you guys happily talk about? We live in a world plagued with earthquakes and natural disasters. A world where over 70% of its surface is inhabitable by us and about 21% of its gas is directly useful to us. A world that will eventually end in a violent solar explosion as our sun dies. We can argue about the harmony in our universe all day while u stick to one set of arguments "evidence of design is evidence of a designer". I'm actually bored of hearing this. Ok, I'll grant you that there was indeed some sort of divine intelligence that is responsible for our world and universe, Does that make it Abraham's god? My biggest problem with religionists is their arrogance to claim their's is the correct faith and everyone else's is wrong. They all can't all be correct indeed. Either one is and all other will be wrong, or they are all wrong. [b][/b] |
[quote author=Mr_Anony][size=14pt]Part 3[/size] Now about God. . . . . Remember that Dudugirl's argument (and mine also) is that God is the ultimate creator of all things and the explanation for existence. Now whenever we see order, we infer an intelligence and we immediately seek one who gives order. When we look at the universe and nature and ourselves, we see order and a very sophisticated intelligence because of this, we infer that there must be an intelligent designer that gives order. It is even more fascinating when we find out that the universe has not always existed but has a beginning. This tells us that whatever made the universe to begin must itself not be subject to the laws within the universe i.e. it is eternal and of immense power. Note that unlike russell's teapot, this entity is both plausible and necessary. To not believe that such an entity exists, one must believe something more sufficient that better explains what it is out to explain. Now, when wiegraf was asked. "How do you explain your existence?" he replied "I don't". This immediately tells me that he doesn't reject God based on reason, he only rejects God based personal bias (i.e. he finds the idea of God to be absurd). If he had a reason to reject God, he would have provided it. As I have shown earlier, you cannot disbelieve in a vacuum. It is either you hold unto an incompatible belief which you ought to state and then we can weigh it's merits ........or you are just being irrational.[/quote]Basically, this is where you and your apologetic cohorts get it completely wrong. There is no order in the universe!!The order you see is an illusion. We perceive order because our brains are programmed to see order. How difficult is it for you guys to get? I can go on and list all the reasons to show disorder in the universe and even ourselves as human beings but I'm frankly tired of reposting myself on this forum. |
[quote author=Mr_Anony]@Jayriginal, wiegraf and purist. Now believing something or not believing it has nothing to do with whether it is true or false, However I get what you mean (also Purist and Wiegraf). If for instance I claim that I can fly, you will immediately reject it until I actually fly and even if you actually see me flying , you will not still believe that I can fly until you have investigated properly and assured yourself that I am using no tricks to fly. Notice that your disbelief here is based on the belief that people cannot fly. Without that belief, you would have no problem with my flying. Also, if you were able to check me properly and make sure I was not using any tricks but natural ability, your belief would change to "some people can fly". This illustrates the point I have been making. You cannot disbelieve in a vacuum.[/quote]You make a basic mistake here in your rebuttal analogy. Using a flying man that actually did achieve flight by some method (whatever method) is completely different in believing in something/someone with no iota of evidence. The act of flying alone gives him evidence to support his claim. If a man comes to claim he can fly and then leaps up into the sky and starts flying, he then as achieved his claim. The onus is now on me to disprove his flying as some sort of trickery. All forms of traditional logic will be suspended for the moment until I/we can prove that he has faked it in some way. Using this analogy for the defence of a god is a major failure cos your god has been giving immunity from provability by you guys. |
hadbak: Xtians can neva seize 2 amaze. Y don't we try d PREVENTN Is BETA THAN CURE method. Don't u tink its simpler? Stop d disrespect!!! I hate repeating wordsNo, it isnt simpler. So everyone has to be scared of Muslims because they cant think for themselves? FFS!!! So then you have to kill if people disrespect you or your religion? What sort of barbarism is that? ![]() |
bros, how is the mileage 409km and you wana sell for 3mil? Brand new Phaeton costs over 70k Pounds (that's over 14million Naira already) At 409km i can tag this as "brand new" Explain pls |
Dudugirl01: So, if someone killed ur sister and there's no proof, would you say he didn't? Besides, there's proof everywhere you just have to open ur eyes to seethat's a lame analogy ![]() |
musKeeto: what's my business if he yad a wife? I didnt even comment on that thread... waste of time..OMG you just made my day LMAO!!!!!! ![]() |
[quote author=Mr_Anony]lol, what does it mean to say that your life has meaning? Who or what gives your life meaning?[/quote]lol.. If you dont have the balls to say your life has meaning without religion, then too bad. I know mine does. Lets say sometime soon science ends up showing us a simple proof that god doesn't exist, does that mean you will kill yourself since life has no meaning? Strange replies I get on this NL ![]() |
ajf: I am not looking to ridicule anybody. I am from a christian home and these are questions that have been brewing inside of me since my sunbeam days...Good question. Thing is, the more you ask these questions the easier you can see through the hogwash that is religion .Lets put it this way. He came to die for our sins and for the sins of the coming generation (basically original sin from Adam and Eve) He planted a tree of knowledge of good and evil in the garden and asked them not to eat it (keep in mind he knows the beginning and the end) They eat the fruit and he gets pissed (having already known they will eat it) and curse them Now he sends his only son (who is himself by the way in another form) To come and die for our sins (remember that original sin?) as a sacrifice to himself that will top all sacrifices. So he sacrifices himself to himself for a sin he knew that we will commit? Strange summary: No he didn't have to die and resurrect. If i were omnipotent, omniscient and all knowing I'm sure i can come up with a better plan to fix things. Keep in mind that the preaching of Jesus was centred around the end (Following the Roman oppression) is near (2000 years on and the Joke is on us) ![]() |
Dudugirl01: Yes, the Lord God indeed made all things, including the deserts, swamps , vultures and all those things you claim are ugly, look closely, they have their own beuty too, I'd rather believe in God than believe in nothing, without belief, life is worth nothingThat sums up your argument for yourself. Basically religion floats your boat! It doesn't do the same to us so if you're gonna require some sort of evidence from us to disprove your god, you're barking up the wrong tree. The difference with me and you is that I'm fully aware that this life is all I've got and will put all my energy to making the best out of it. Caring for as many people as I can and make as much difference possible. The more we make everyone around us comfortable and feel loved, the more meaning our lives have. I don't need believe in a deity to give my life meaning |
ghazzal: Yes. i did science, and when i read of creation of the earth in the Quran, i knew the Bigbang theory has high probability of being true. Infact, the Quran says the smoke was used to form the 7 heavens.........(and i think, if smoke is enclosed in something, it may actually be there for years like you light a match, put the fire off and return the match in the box with the smoke))two things: 1) Can you please read your Quran and predict the next break through in science? 2) your second part is the watch makers idea (Since there is seemingly design then there must be a creator), Very wrong view when you consider that the complexity of our universe is only a function of our limited understanding. Einstein's theory of general relativity proves this easily. |
ghazzal: What force is keeping the heavens from collapsing on the earth?Gravity LOL! silly question |
HumbledbYGrace: No book does it for me than the bible,whoever wrote it made my life worth living because I believe that I will one day see the creator of the universe.Well, there are two sides to this statement: 1) If you are asking questions about authorship of the gospels and various books in the bible, then you have to look outside the bible for answers. Also you have to read both sides of the argument. 2) You can see the bible as the ultimate truth and hence not be interested in what other books have to say. Both of these contradict themselves so you'll have to do one alone. From the topic, you seem to ask for answers and now you give sole "explanation" to the bible? hmmmm From your write up earlier I may be forced to believe that you only read Lee Strobel's book "A case for Christ". Well, He is neither a historian nor a theologian but simply a journalist. His investigative approach can be biased in many ways and the book confirms this too. Why not complete your investigation and reach an absolute knowledge on this topic. Trust me it should not affect your faith (William Craig knows all these but is still a Christian), you can always come up with other explanations to defend your faith ![]() |
seems abroad ![]() semid4lyfe: Congrats to the parents.lol @ your signature! Oya go baff on top am! ![]() |
[quote author=Henry-Josephs]@ poster, if u don't av anyfn worthwhile to post, pls, go nd masturbate! Even a 2 year old knows tht we ought to abhor d devil... Better nd positive posts, anyone?[/quote]y is this so? because you have been told to believe it? Has anyone ever bothered to hear d other side of the story? |
safarigirl: the bible is one of the most twisted things you'll ever read. God has given each person a brain to interprete it's teachings as they see it, just, some brains have been invaded by dust and cobwebs, thereby prompting questions such as this. @OP, ask your pastor.Like you do with everything else that troubles your life! silly ![]() think for yourself woman!!! |
^^ LOL at Musketoo As far as I know, God and Satan are having a dispute and satan is being the bigger fcking man! God is the one writing sh1t about satan and saying all sorts of evil about him and the devil has said nothing so far. So we can conclude who is immature here. I guess we should all wait to hear Satan Side of the story before we jump to conclusions ![]() Jim Jefferies ** |
francis247: His answer is based on simple logic @k2039. Satan in the beginning existed as Lucifer alongside God. Out of rebellion, carved out his own kingdom against God. Now satan use humans as his agent of destruction. These humans are whom according to the bible, we are to love and pray for to repent.That logic is flawed unfortunately. It seems Christians only make excuses for God when they have to, other times they just say "God knows best" I'm surprised i dont see that response here. Rather someone trying to reason what a mess the contradictions in the bible causes? The more you ask questions, the more you know The more you know, the smaller god becomes ![]() |
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