₦airaland Forum

kimbraa:
These Nairaland guys though! The lady has said what she can't deal with. Funny enough, the derogatory remarks won't make her change her mind on this. No one wants to associate with a poor man and that's a fact. Free the lady joor! And go hustle.

It is not about changing anybody's mind. Who don lost don lost tey tey. At least there are young impressionable jambites and young girls on social media. They are still finding their bearings in life. Maybe they can still choose their role models more carefully.

Yellowdayzee:
You guys are too sensitive

Really? We men are often attacked for not being sensitive enough.

We know you're saying the obvious. But women strenuously deny what you just said whenever we men express our similar experiences with women. They tell us we are just trying to rubbish women.

Even though you are saying the obvious, it doesn't seem the moral thing to be accepted as normal. In the same way that bribery & corruption though rampant in Nigeria, should still not be accepted as a way of life that can ever take us forward.

princfred:
You dey mind the semi-Olosho mindset of average Nigerian lady? Dont take them serious o. They are raised to be semi pay-as-you-dig and taking them as anything more than that is at a mans peril.

A very worrying thought my brother.

Billion2612:
She needs to visit a psychiatric hospital.......She needs to be checked

Actually not a big deal in the West. They can use all their savings to treat pet. Even to put down a pet can be costly. I only wonder she has no pet insurance for the dog. That covers most conditions normally.

Very wicked and evil.

NASS should enact a special act against child and juvenile abuse. And enforced by a special department created within NPF complete with child psychologists/counselors, pediatricians and special investigators.

Damaged kids make damaged adults in the future.

Yellowdayzee:
Looking at her body I'm sure she had to turn down many guys to remain loyal to him ...so if we get technical and use the law of economics... She had a lot of opportunity costs from not saying yes to those guys...


Example if you keep your money at home you loose out on interest that could have been earned at the bank

That's all the audacity

Her body? That poo-retaining stuff behind her can never attract me. And I am not alone. Oloshoism is now audacity? Wow! What a great stride & progress for women!

But fact is she's speaking for many women. We men are not naive not to know. This knowledge is well exploited by wealthy guys. An averagely wealthy guy with a nice house, two decent cars and regular income as low as 250k per month can have 5 girlfriends pere. Some of his girls too might be juggling 10 different guys to fund their living. So nobody is fooling is nobody. If you know you know.

Yellowdayzee:
I think you miss understood her frustrations... Imagen a broke guy cheating on you After the sacrifice you are making to stick by him and be loyal ... The audacity

Now if he cheats on you and he is rich ... Atleast you were compensated a bit for the emotional trauma

So a broke guy is not making sacrifices to stay with a broke ass lady? What stops the broke lady from being rich on her own? Are jobs from barber/hair dresser to pilot not open to ladies in Nigeria?

The message some ladies are sending out is that it's all about the money. Meaning at least if a guy has money his cheating is not such a big deal or least much more tolerable. They seem to be gradually admitting they are for sale.

Women easily defeat the equal status they claim to be fighting for. Buy a cake, eat it and see if the cake is still intact in the package.

1zynnvn:
Most of these guys became pastors when being a pastor was regarded as a poor mans job. They called them church rats then.

I will believe your theory of poor pastors in the days of Oshofa and early pastors.

Bishop Benson Idahosa glamourised pastoral work flaunting wealth in early 1980s. Virtually all rich pastors today were mentored by him. Pictures of Oyedepo and others visiting him in early 1980s are online. Idahosa set many records yet unbroken. Like the first black pastor to preach to the most number of non-Africans, first black man to have a World Outreach ministry, etc.

Oritsejafor was his boy too.

Some here on Nairaland are old enough to remember.

What is evident is that because of much higher rural-urban migration in the last 25 years, detachment from extended family system and from tradition and culture coupled with high urban poverty, the Church has taken up many roles: family, social circle, a place to seek miracle of healing, solution to poverty and re-assurance.

The more educated generation seek non-existent jobs in the towns and cities. Even those without much training or education are trying their luck in cities. Marrying and bearing kids. This large pool of poor people seek miracles.

Churches have been savvy enough to tap into this niche market of promising prosperity and miracle to cause exponential growth and create huge business.

The African condition is just currently perfect for church growth.

mimimile93:
I bet this girl is not a Nigerian.

She's a foreigner acting a Nigerian.

Nigerian girls don't give this kind of brain she's giving

Or if she's Nigerian she must have been shaped by a saner society elsewhere. Because almost any 9ja babe as beautiful as she is will be too busy scoping for a rich guy, including a pastor, to marry rather than have sense like this.

greatman247:
She speaks the obvious truth

And truth is extremely bitter in Nigeria.

Everyone has given up on the country already. Na sweet mouth to get even more power & money our so called leaders dey.

Every one who gets the opportunity is just cutting and carving out bits of "meat" from Nigeria like the whale that beached at Lekki.

post=68919368:
She will get her passport.
Go to the Nigeria embassy in Greece, pay the visa fee to get a visa to Nigeria.
You will write a Letter of Invitation stating where she will stay when she comes and how you will take care of your visitor.
Also stating her arrival and departure date.
She will buy her ticket..... that's all i remember at this point.

All the best bro.

Aside the ones Mannabbq already listed, at the Embassy they may require her latest bank statement with some money in the account, some proofs of address (rent or mortgage document, utility/electricity/water rate bill), your invitation letter might need to be accompanied by a photocopy of the data page of your international passport. Best is to visit or contact Nigerian Embassy in Greece for visa requirements.

After getting the visa, she should bring her birth certificate with her when coming to Nigeria. She might need a "certificate of no impediment to marriage" (if her country routinely requires that before marriage, Italy does for example). If previously married she must bring her divorce certificate when coming too.

minasota:
Useless country, go to Rwanda and see how a country should be.just 22 years after.

We will never learn in 9ja o sadly.

Wait o dear, is Rwanda a good place to visit as a tourist? How is life and security situation generally?
Thanks.

YoungFr:
This is Nigeria, every body is a

....Jaguda.

Religion operates in cahoots with politics. Deliberately in many cases. Religious faith is used to pacify people. To hope in God and leave those in authority to continue mismanaging.

Prayer strengthens faith, nothing wrong with whoever that's his cup of tea. But things we can do easily, things other serious minded across the world do to better their lives, do we need prayers to do them? NO!

Even as a human parent there are things you expect your kids to be able to do routine depending on age and training. He/she doesn't need appealing to you to have it done for them.

But in 9ja, to pour sand in puddles in the street, na prayer. To get PHCN light, na prayer. Haba!

Simple rules we cannot properly formulate and enforce ruthlessly.

Disasters will continue to happen if we do not do our part. God ain't coming to spoon feed us. We are not in the wilderness, so expect no manna from heaven.

Religion operates in cahoots with politics. Deliberately in many cases. Religious faith is used to pacify people. To hope in God and leave those in authority to continue mismanaging.

Prayer strengthens faith, nothing wrong with whoever that's his cup of tea. But things we can do easily, things other serious minded minded across the world do to better their lives, do we need prayers to do them? NO!

Even as a human parent there are things you expect your kids to be able to do routinely depending on age and training. He/she doesn't need appealing to you to have it done for them.

But in 9ja, to pour sand in puddles in the street, na prayer. To get PHCN light, na prayer. Haba!

Disasters will continue to happen if we do not do our part. God ain't coming to spoon feed us. We are not in the wilderness, so expect no manna from heaven.

If anybody like make e join Ku Klux Klan or Illuminati, wetin come konsain us na?

Sadly the excesses of the MoGs will bring about the fall of popular Christianity as Africans currently practice it.

Gradually the excesses will be too much and questions will be asked increasingly by younger generations.

It happened in the past in Europe. Churches became too powerful and abused their privileges. If not for Africans/Caribbeans, many more church buildings would be pubs, club houses, art galleries, private homes or such by now. Some already are. I mean current Catholic and Protestant churches.

Paulono:
I don't think this is too much, in fact it should be increase. I just paid $567 for a two year UK visa. Imagine that the British colonize us yet charging us hell to enter their country for a legitimate reason while countries colonize by France was given free visa to enter. Please let them increase the fee.

Dude, Nigerian visa or UK visa which is more in demand? Ever heard of demand and supply? In reality most visitors to Nigeria already have ties to Nigeria via marriage, family members, etc. Whereas lots of Nigerians travel to hustle in UK or do it as a status symbol: so they can say "I vacationed in UK, I did medical check up in UK", etc

What you do not get is the visitors in question already paid around £350 to over £1000 pounds depending category of visa, if issued to a British person from UK for example. The new fee at MMA IS NOT VISA COST. It is a different extra fee collected by an outsourcing company doing biometrics called IOS. IOS also handles Nigerian visa processing abroad like in UK, Dubai, etc. You can bet your last penny on it that some 9ja big man has a large stake in the Nigerian operation.

The $110 is not going to Immigration Service or FG. It's for private pockets.
The matter is IOS already does Biometrics when processing Nigerian visa (in separate office not within Nigerian Embassy/High Commission) and not owned by 9ja. IOS charges £70 just to process it and send to embassy to issue visa. Embassy fee, actual visa fees are separate.

Why not just tell IOS to collect all the biometrics fees during visa processing in London, Dubai or elsewhere rather than doing another biometrics and collecting fees in Lagos? Or just make it visa on arrival so that visitors know where to pay all the money?

I remember the embarrassment when a friend had to cancel his wedding in 9ja. Nigerian High Commission in UK had no passport booklet. He applied good 5 months before due to go home to marry in December 2016. Friends and colleague had already bought flight tickets to 9ja. He just can't wait to get his hands on UK passport.

We mess up big time and then we blame others for looking down on us. Fix things and serious countries will not even require you to have a visa.

[quote author=LaudableXX post=68906245][/quote]To a fool, words of wisdom sounds foolish.
You now realized how shallow you're.
hope you learned your lessons.

God is surely merciful.

But first we need to do things right ourselves too. Vehicles were made to be maintained regularly. But we like short-cuts. Precautions have to be taken as recommended. a lot of the disasters we experience are avoidable or can be mitigated.

I remember many years ago when over kilometers along Berger, a tanker bearing "flammable liquid" or something similar was spilling fuel (anything that burns is fuel, not just petrol as most Nigerians erroneously believe) on the road. Efforts to alert the driver failed. We were just praying that nobody lights a cigarette. Most road users either didn't notice it or realize the imminent danger of going up in flames everyone was in.

As it stands with the Otedola Bridge, we will probably never find the cause of explosion or even ever identify some of the dead. Many people in Lagos have no close friends or relatives to miss them quickly. Some are from various corners of the country.
Very sad in deed.

RIP to the dead and quick recovery to the injured.

LaudableXX:
Oga, you really need to educate yourself when it comes to the world of international politics, so that you can realise it is an intricate game played by countries to derive the highest gain, that feeds their own interests. It would take ages to lecture you about the politics playing out in the case of Albania, Armenia, Moldova, & Serbia - due to the stronghold Russia has on those countries within that region, and its constant face-off with other Western nations. I am glad you understand that Turkey's issue is more religious than political. Some Arab countries have oppressive regimes and their citizens have quite limited freedoms, (in fact they treat them like poo) yet they are actively courted by the West for various reasons ranging from strategic, to economic to political ones.

Now for the umpteenth time, when are you going to get off my mentions? You can continue commenting without quoting me, or is that too hard for you to do, simply because you are obsessed with wanting lesser developed countries to worship citizens with Western passports?

Your ignorance is staggering. What do you know about international politics? Which universities did you study politics in? How much international exposure have you even?

Do you even know the people who historically shaped international diplomacy? Would you know how Mitternich, Castlereagh or Hardenberg and others helped to lay the foundation for modern diplomacy, without checking Google? Certainly not.

You're talking of reciprocity as if every country can use it effectively. USA is about to deport 7,000 Ghanians, how many Americans can Ghana deport in reciprocation? If USA decides to deport 25,000 Nigerians today, how many Americans can Nigeria deport in reply? Use your head.

So if you know that the point of appendix pain/incision is McBurney's point does it mean you know anything about doing appendectomy?
Or if you just know that DNA can be amplified, does it mean you the first or last thing about doing PCR?

You're happing on Diplomacy 101, what of 202 to 606? You think mundane and basic kindergarten stuff is what diplomacy is all about/
That you even need google to prove "reciprocity" means you either have very little real life experience or exposure. All I see is sour grapes. Someone furious about being screened carefully at airports but not interested in how we caused it ourselves. You cannot have Abacha loot billions, 419 everywhere, prostitution, many hanged in Asia for drugs yearly and not expect people to be suspicious. The world is not fair. Deal with it.

You cannot do things that re-enforce stereotypes and prejudices knowing how biased the world already is. It is your duty to be good ambassadors so that over time things will improve. Far Easterners faced similar stuff but they rose above it. Even 0.5 % of bad eggs is enough to ruin reputation.

As regard Albania, have you been to any of those countries you mentioned? I visited two of those countries among others in former East Block soon after the end of cold war to see for myself. Poland where Warsaw Pact was signed is now part of EU. Russia could not stop Latvia or Lithuania that were formerly part of USSR joining EU. Any country in Eastern Europe that makes enough economic, social, democratic and human rights progress can join EU. Even Ukraine!

Talking of "lecturing" is rich from you. Can you even teach kindergarten kids in a country with proper regulations? May be at Auntie Gbemi Nursery School in Bariga or Mushin.
Again, I will reply as long as I want.

bigpicture001:
Nigeria as a country should begin to decrease thier importation of Chinese products of whatsoever ever kind,patronisw them less even in services,just like the US is currently doing.. we all are making that country grow and making them very careless about the world community. that is so that dey can understand that to whom.much is given,much is expected. how can we flood our whole country with chinese products,china takes away all of our money earned,yet dey can't assist in whatsoever form in our struggles. etc boko haram,economic collapse, favourable bilateral agreements etc. all they care about is trade nd ur money.... we should re trace our steps and embrace the Europeans. they scratch our bak as we scratch thiers......

They will not hear o. Nobody cares. The touted currency swap with China if it works will make things worse. China goods will flood everywhere .

LaudableXX:
Oga stop it...you are the one who still does not get it. Every country, relates with the rest of the world based on its' own enlightened self-interest, and whatever best suits the interests of its citizens. Only a stupid country with no sense, will allow its citizens to be treated like mini-criminals by another country, while it treats the citizens of that other country, like royalty simply because it wants to curry some misplaced favour with them. It has nothing to do with how wealthy a particular country is, or isn't. It is called Diplomacy 101. Ask any good student of international relations.

The citizens of Eastern Europe got a free pass to travel to most parts of the West, [b]because their countries joined the European Union (EU) which promoted free movement to a large extent, among its members, not because their countries became rich overnight.[/b] The EU as a continental bloc, also signed agreements with other regional blocs to promote trade, defence and migration agreements which benefited its member states and their citizens. The whole arrangement had very little to do with how prosperous such nations were...it was more about how strategic those countries were, and also about promoting a common interest, on a continental level. Greece is almost bankrupt today, but its citizens are not treated like the dregs of the world, are they? Now please for the last time, kindly get off my mentions....if you do not mind.

In your diplomatic wisdom, Eastern Europeans were just admitted into EU without meeting any conditions that included economy among others? So why have Albania, Armenia, Moldova, & Serbia and others not been admitted?

I will not mention Turkey because you might claim religion is the reason.

Which country has not faced near bankruptcy at some point? But you wouldn't know why Greece ended up in a dilemma after a massive growth compared to 30 years earlier.

I will stop commenting when I want. It is a free forum.

You gain respect by how your country treats you. If a country treats its people like poo, foreign countries will do same.

LaudableXX:
Oga, na God I take beg you.... instead of trying slavishly to promote colonial mentality, kindly depart from my mentions. In diplomatic circles, there is something called the law of reciprocity. A country cannot treat me and my fellow citizens like crap or horsesh*it, simply because I hold a green passport, and then expect me and my own immigration services to treat them like royalty, because they carry a foreign passport. The law of reciprocity applies. As I speak, Botswana citizens do not need a visa to go to the UK, for visits that do not extend beyond 90 days.

If I stand in a foreign immigration queue with a fellow African from Botswana, my passport would be scrutinised as if it was contraband, while the other chap gets ushered in, with a smile and a wave. Yet you are making it seem I must grin and bear it, while I kiss the arse of the citizens of such foreign countries? Nah...

Until the economy of my country is fixed, citizens of such foreign Western countries should NOT expect deference or any royal treatment from my own country. No be by force! It is silly to think I should kow-tow to you because you are visiting my land as a foreign citizen, while your own nation treats my citizens, like dung.

You do not get it. So all the politicians and military junta that impoverished and enslaved Nigerians over the decades treated Nigerians like human beings, right? So it does not occur to you that in a country whole villages are eliminated by herdsmen while their leaders sing and dance at Eagle Square, not country will respect leaders or citizens from such a country? Or a country where their president go abroad and say the country is corrupt and its youth are lazy?

Respect and value yourself through deed and actions and everyone will respect you.

Chinese and Japanese were derided as little yellow monkeys just decades ago by Westerns. They got their acts together and now have massive respect worldwide.
Nobody owes you any respect. You have to earn it.

I saw Eastern Europeans being delayed at borders just 20 years ago. Now they are mostly part of EU.

The point remains Nigerians came to be treated with suspicion everywhere as the economy and country went down, making millions travel anyhow and some doing all kinds of things for money. Some have been terrible ambassadors causing increased hostility.
Only us can change it positively. Not reciprocation due to dogma.
Flashing colonial mentality card will not cut it because we depend on oyinbo for almost everything. Be self sufficient first. Drive innoson, use made in Nigeria goods only.

LaudableXX:
Oga, Nigerians wishing to visit the UK, also pay different fees for different classes of visas, when they want to visit. For an ordinary single entry visa, it is slightly over 200 USD. And at some foreign embassies, you cannot pay visa fees in Naira, even within your own country. If you want a refund, they deduct all they can from what you initially paid, before returning a fraction of the fees to you, at official rate.

Please let us stop waving the tourism flag, as an excuse, especially since foreign countries that are serious about tourism, do NOT give Nigerians any special concessions. In fact, if you tell them you are a Nigerian tourist in some embassies, without producing an invitation letter or evidence of hotel accomodation already fully paid, the way they would eye you and proceed to bounce you & your passport, you will feel sorry for yourself. If you see the hardships inflicted on Nigerians, because of our green passports at some of these embassies and at their entry points, you would not feel sorry for their nationals when they decide to visit Naija, and are given similar treatment.

This mentality you expressed here is keeping Nigeria in the dark. Look, within a generation, Chinese have moved from unwanted immigrants to those highly desired as tourists. That even UK that is outside Schengen is collaborating with Schengen countries to include UK in Schengen visas specially for the Chinese! Any credible country tourists come from gets concessions from destination countries. Most Nigerian over-stayers abroad go as visitors/tourists.
Trying to form reciprocation when you are clearly in a position of weakness, from where you cannot win is wishful thinking. Use your head.

Nobody outside Nigeria inflicted any hardship on Nigerians. Bad governance that created poverty did. When our economy was better, we needed no visa to many countries. Newly rich countries in the Far East Asia are getting visa waiver with Western countries. Fix your economy & people will not see you as potential economic migrants.

Lol. Bad mouthed beggar. Her poverty nor go go soon. She's too hateful.

LaudableXX:
The charges are for foreigners trying to enter Nigeria, with foreign passports and does not apply to Nigerians with Nigerian passports. So what is the problem? A number of other countries charge similar fees for similar purposes, and many Nigerians gladly pay such fees at the entry point of those countries, without any murmuring or complaints. So why is everyone now complaining about NIS doing the same thing, a number of other nations have been doing for the past few years?

I have paid $45 USD for visa on arrival at the entry point of another African country before, and I witnessed many other travellers doing so freely, without any issue. But why is it that when it comes to our own shores, everyone complains without thinking? It is NOT by force to come to Naija, o!

Guy visa on arrival is different. In this case of 9ja people already paid for visa and the processing fees in their country and have a visa in their passport before coming to Nigeria.

For a UK citizen coming to visit his Nigerian in-laws for example, immigration fee, embassy fee and processing fee of outsourcing company for a visa to just visit can be over £350 to £400! Enough to pay for 3 days holiday break in Morocco covering both flight and hotel. No visa needed. So how can that visitor persuade his friends to visit Nigeria (to see Eyo festival in Lagos, Igue festival in Benin, Argungu festival, Ofalla Festival in Onitsha, Osun Festival or to visit Obudu Cattle Ranch or Yankari G. R.) instead of Tunisia, Morocco or Balearic Islands?

Also remember that most foreigners coming to Nigeria have ties with Nigeria : spouse of a Nigerian, grandkid of a Nigerian, mother of a Nigerian, etc.

Many are even Nigerians but cannot get booklet at 9ja embassies/High Commissions that issue passport in their country of residence. Some may not know that they can get a TC instead.

There are many countries serious about tourism and attracting foreign dollars. Like Morocco and Tunisia. They let Westerners come in visa free even though such gesture is not reciprocated. They just want rich Westerners to come in and spend hard currency. Just show accommodation/hotel booking proof, enough money to cover stay, etc. Their citizens on average live a better and longer life than Nigerians. You wonder what job tourism ministry does in Nigeria. The minister should be making the case for Visa on arrival for citizens of rich Commonwealth countries (Canada, UK, Australia, NZ, Singapore, Malta, Cyprus, Brunei, etc? We need to be pragmatic, not dogmatic.

Hi-Tech shrine. Stepping their game into 21st century.

Lol.

Some do this at 30 sef.

Una president (Buhari) dey read cartoon books, so no biggie.

anochuko01:
great observations! especially our need for a prolific striker. one in the mould of Etoo and Drogba.
we have a good midfield, defence and keeping dpts. the coach should be retained too.

We do not even have Amuneke sef. Strikers who find that little space between & behind defence to score.

We have a below average team. Most not even playing regularly in their average clubs.

Even though Mikel likes No 10 role, but he has left that role at Chelsea for so long that it's not his best position anymore.

In defence we have no leader. No engine like Uche Okechukwu.

Rohr even tried getting us to world cup considering the material at his disposal.

pode:
It hurt to heard a president of a nation spoke this way, for goodness sake was the reason they called you GCFR

So he's not ashamed to say killings in any other area within Nigeria is even more than the outrageous figures the Middle Belt? Chai!