₦airaland Forum

Ecosol: . If u read thru d post carefully, u wuld discover dat dis is not d 1st time dat doctor is making a mistake. In 2007 a high court in d uk branded him incompetent! Dat speaks volumes 0.

EliteYouth: [b]
Rukaiya, who shuttles between Yola, London and Dubai, wrote on her Twitter page.

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HNosegbe: As a Deltan, I am extremely pessimistic about Pat Utomi's chances. In fact I don't think he stands a chance.

I really hope I'm wrong, though.

nursemyke: oga philips you are most ignorant concerning the politics and practices in the health sector. kindly stop misleading the general public. nobody is stealing the ownership of the patients from the medical consultants, all JOHESU is saying is that healthcare is a teamwork with respect being mutual and reciprocal. let me educate you that the so called members of JOHESU who wants to be adressed and treated as consultants have acquired the requisite academic and clinical competence in their various field of practice. this will enhance more patient care outcome. more consultant specialist in various field more healthcare benefit to the client.
there is paradigm shift in the healthcare industry now lets all accept it.

adeoladrg: If you, or les say your cousin (God forbid) has a kidney or liver transplant to do, will you allow your colleagues perform magic on him or send him abroad?

matify: Bigotry loquaciously displayed with pernicious and malicious intent to sway the uninformed into a frenzy of mental torture.

You have twisted facts to suit you depravity and your penchant to denigrate the nobility of the physician using flawed resource is unconvincing.

The purulent vile spewed in the write-up only typifies your ignominy for the medical doctor for whom you have displayed an innate rancour.

We leave you to your doomed fate!!

phantom: we are heading somewhere gradually.
i am happy with obembe's reply.he is learning fast.the decision to call off does not lie with him and if he takes any decision to the contrary,then he should get ready for an impeachment.

It is also high time NMA ask for the sack of the health minister. he is grossly incompetent.
ASUP have suspended their 10month old strike thanks to shekarau who has spent barely a week in office.
it is not difficult to call a roundtable of FG,NMA,MDCAN,NARD and JOHESU to trash these things once and for all.

adeoladrg: Lmaooooooooooooooooooooooooooo



I dare you to open a thread for people who have lost their loved ones due to doctor's negligence and see how many people we are talking about.



Mods, do the needful.

Morotov1: FG begging as Fashola begged before he striked. Coming from NMA kith and kin it seem FG is not going to shift ground.
I think they better get back to work and save face then give FG time for dialogue.

house37: Please an appeal to the doctors in the house kindly disregard posts by people like sagamite that cannot make useful contributions.

rolex29: very sound and objective write up .Doctors own the patient and nobody want to take your patient away from you we only want to reach the zenith of our respective fields it doesnt stop any doctor from performing his or her duties at all . A house officer pay is d same thing with a PMLS (atleast u must ve worked for 10 years to get to that salary level o! ) while interns get N112 ,546 in d eastern state where i reside so its really poor .Delivering quality healthcare to patients is a focal point in all medical professions and lets not forget anybody can be a patient nobody is excluded not even the doctors who own the patient so i dont how hindering the progress and welfare of other medical professionals will improve the quality of healthcare in this our nation.

drered: Period? Who made you author and finisher? Kindly swerve..

adeoladrg: I don't mind if we're are not giving the title consultant. For the reason that, a postgraduate course doesn't make you a consultant in the US doesn't apply to Africa. Here, you need to go through a postgraduate college to become one. That said, whatever process it takes, the roles are the same everywhere. To hell with the title!!!

adeoladrg: What about when you have an eye surgery? Organ transplant? Would you allow a Nigerian medical doctor perform magic on you? Op pls answer!


My point is pls strike to improve your practice! Not too stop others from improving their practice! We are tired of going to India.

GentleMimi: Lol. Yet u claim to be a patient. Come out clean,boy!
Nobody ''owns'' any patient. Stop confusing yourself with that phrase. Very funny and naive.
Who does the diagnosis,to confirm the prognosis? Medical scientists.

Who handles patient care in the wards? Nurses.

Who handles therapy in patients with bone issues? Physiotherapists

A patient comes into the hospital with complaints of malaise,nausea,weakness and pain. There are more than ten disease conditions with the same set of symptoms. Automatically,he requests for MP/widal. It comes out negative. What next? If he is a god,let him now determine the cause of the patient's ailment with his ''prognosis''. If he is a god,let him take care of the patient when admitted.
I repeat,nobody owns the patient. It is a collective effort.

chucs: Mr man its not every nurse that packs faeces. There is hierarchy and carder in nursing profession which is also found in other profession. U seem to be a patient that has vast knowledge in medical field but[b] found it difficult to acknowledge the existence of nurse consultants as seen all over the world.[/b] I find it difficult to understand why a professional will not be allowed to get to the peak of his/her career. The issue on ground is not about ownership of the patients but the a clear knowledge of what consultant stand for. According to wikipedia "a consultant is a professional who provides professional or expert advice in a particular area such as security(electronic or physical),management,accountancy,law,human resources,marketing(and public relations),finance,engineering or any of many other specialized fields"

jpphilips: Simple question behooves simple answer, I may not be a health practitioner doesn't mean I left my common sense abroad.

Who does the prognosis and logs in the patients complain?
who tells the scientist which test to run to confirm his prognosis?
who writes the drug prescription and dosage that wakes the pharmacist from coma?
whose signature admits and discharges the patient?
who certifies a patient DEAD?

back to the issue again, who owns the patient??

phantom: look brother....if you want to import from the US do it well.if your consultancy entails a residency training,go ahead and do it.if it entails a masters and PhD,go ahead and do it.
the west African college of pharmacists has been in existence for years.HOW MANY OF YOUR SENIORS ARE FELLOWS?
you prefer to open pharmacies and sell drugs.
you, adeola when did you qualify as a pharmacist? have you considered a residency in pharmacy??

adeoladrg: Oh cool, you must have also seen experienced pharmacist correct doctors on the use of drugs! Probably tell the doctor or a not-so-expensive drug to use for a particular condition, or device a better route of administration or an alternative therapy and lots more. We want more knowledge, we want more specialization! WE WANT TO UNDERGO RESIDENCY TRAINING FOR 6 YEARS? 7? 8? WHATEVER!

It adds to patient care! IT'S NOT ABOUT OWNING THE PATIENTS!

GentleMimi: Young man,being a consultant does not mean ''ownership'' of a human being. It means being an expert in ur field of work,so as to be able to give advice and top notch contributions towards the improvement of services.
the posts have four key functions: expert practice (max. 50%); research, evaluation and service development; education, mentoring and overview of practice; professional leadership.

adeoladrg: You think this is a fight about owning the patient? You'll understand better when you lose a loved one to a doctor's mistake that could have been corrected by a pharmacist or nurse.

Dazzlee: I get what you're saying. And I agree with you, no one wants to be cheated on. I won't want to be cheated on too - I guess that answers your question.

But then, I still wonder, is the title 'consultant' only meant for doctors? Because to my understanding, a consultant is someone who has a broad knowledge about a particular subject and is emloyed to give advice about it to other people.

Btw, @bolded.....I'm a lady. And thanks for the correction. Radiographer, radiologist.....got it!

sogodihno: Relativity in health sector: here's enough relativity now, other start frm grade 9 or 10. u guys start frm grade 12, yet wat do u want? is it dat u want other to start frm grade 6 and u guys start frm grade 15?
Consultant? ao does it affect u guys, dz A d pple yoruba called "ANIKANJOPON". If u put yrself in a position of respect nobody will dishonor u.
In OAU, all health sciences and pharmacy pay d same sch fees. am not sure of others. so if d sch fees for medical students is higher dan others in ur sch, dt's ur own cup of tea. U shud av come to OAU if u fink others paying less dan u is a problem
Again and again, not all health professional wan to study medicine, and dont say all other health profesional fail out of medical sch, in OAU wen u fail out of medical sch u cant go to other all health science.
Once again, patient view? patient view indeed. u dont talk abt dia demand of apointin surgeon general yet dz A d pple dt dont want other to b apoint as consultant. 100,000 for health hazard alowance, A u d only one dt av contact wth d patient? wat abt nurses and medical lab scientist dt mostly do d dirty work, wat abt dia special plate no? dey wil son ask for special road so dt dia wont b odd up, in case of emergency. Wat u said u dont want for others u A claiming it for yrself. SMH.
D point is NMA is loosing it dignity and valu gradually, u A in stike for almost 2 wks and u still cant achieve anytin, dey tink wen dey stike for even 2 days FG wil come to dem begging. Wen u pple A tire u will go back to work.
GREEDINESS at it peak

malbruno: my dear, u have Said it all, just an addition d consultants are meant to specialize in a particular area of study like consultant gyenocologist, consultant urologist etc. Their role differ, so it will be for[b[b]] Consultant chem pathologist, consultant haematologist[/b][/b] consultant pharmacist when they have got the requisit qualification. How is it affecting other consultants who shld face their own specialty. what kind egocentric set of human beings