₦airaland Forum

infolekan: This is one of the effects of skin deep education that's just barely scratching the surface.
And this I believe is not a Pharmacist but one of those wannabes.
Amoxil and Augmentin are both in the same class for Pregnancy in all Drug compendium and that's either A or B.
Your mentioning of Paludrine as an alternative gives me no other alternative than to leave you to your sea of knowledge.
The person that clicked that LIKE under your post must be a johesuite under a spell cos I'm sure the person had no idea why he clicked the like.
NB - I said you're most likely not a Pharmacists because all the Pharmacists I know could easily have studied Med but decided to go for Pharmacy and would not commit this heresy you just committed up here

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Dio1: You have clearly lied in this comment, the boy who scored 91 in the 2011/2012 PD of OAU is a medical student,Ihemebiri Chinazo is his name, I'm in prime position to know this as he's my classmate and our matric numbers Re apposed

caught in the act.



though am no longer surprised at the lies.

yes

eejo: The truth is bitter

yes it is.

Bantino: Where have you been?

Up and down to see the queen . Good to be back. Am going ghost mode again for the unexplained likes.

^^^^^^


You wan use person eye take play abi? Just to sell tablets of vitamins.

Healing process in glaucoma.? No wonder the guy said you should say what you have to say here.

Guy Google glaucoma pathophysiology management and prognosis and return here to edit what you wrote.

Pls I need 25 likes. As you pass just click like. God bless you as you like.

godsony: NOW THEY VE. INFEESTED. ALL OF. US!
DOCTORS ARE NOW CLUELESS INEPT. Nd IMPISH
WE The PEOPLE.
NOW CLUELESS
PRESIDO MORE CLUELESS! NAIRALANDERS NOW CLUELESS
MADAM, PLS GIVE ME. A COOL. BOTTLE OF BEER ... CHINEKE! ...
MADAM IS ALSO CLUELESS

You k ow its guys like you that make naira land lively. Lol

My advice is for you to see a Dr. Get your ocular pressures measured and have a visual field analysis done. It should be compared to your last one if you had done one before.

Glaucoma isn't a joke. don't ever stop that timolol till you see a dr.

All the Best.

myads890: @op, this is a senseless post. Just because doctors study for 6 years doesn't make them any more than my gateman.

If you doubt me, you should ask a doctor to cure your inferiority complex.

I admire your belief in self. At least one person gets it.

Its high time NMA responds to such blatant lies. So the salary drs earn is what they use to become senators.

This write up needs to be dissected and trashed.

Its a pity a large portion of the populace will read and believe the lies told.


Punch punch all for a plate of porridge journalism has been thrown to the dogs. Which if the aforementioned issues did the writer investigate before printing this nonsense.

alakid: Wow! I just hv to respond to this.
1. Augmentin is that same amoxicillin you were referring to, just enhanced with clavulanic acid. It is a category A drug, safe in pregnancy, and more effective than amoxicillin alone. What we can take home from this is that you have cheated your sister.
2. Proguanil (Paludrine) is no longer recommended for treatment of malaria, it is rather used for preventing malaria in high risk patients, drug of choice is quinine, however, Artesunate has not been found to be harmful to pregnant animals, as such can be used in malaria in pregnancy. Our take home lesson from this also is that you didn't allow your sister treat malaria effectively, placing her at risk of many complications of malaria including preterm labor, the very thing you were trying to avoid.
In conclusion, I would advise you to always seek wise counsel from people of knowledge (in this case doctors) whenever you are confused. Thanks

You shouldn't have talked let him show his face here again. At least in know he isn't a pharmacist. Johesuites already encroaching on each others territory.

ILIDEFI: With all sincerity, I believe that whoever does residency in a particular specialty should be appointed a consultant. Physiotherapists stand a very high chance of becoming consultants who would be useful in health care practice. Very very useful.

But, what will be the role of consultant nurses, lab scientists and pharmacists? From my research, consultant nurses and pharmacists in US and other advanced countries don't work in hospitals. They work in places like psychiatric and geriatric homes. Their working in hospitals will cause a lot of confusion, as it happened in a teaching hospital where a consultant pharmacist went inside a ward and started cancelling prescriptions made by a consultant cardiologist.

If other health workers will develop their post graduate colleges and start residency, then they can be appointed consultants when they become specialists, but not based on years of service. In that case, they will be willing to face the risk of losing their jobs and applying afresh as consultants, in which they may or may not be employed. Also, the onus lies on each hospital to determine how many consultants it will need. Believe me, most hospitals in Nigeria won't need consultant nurses and pharmacists, cos they have very little extra to impart in the health care as consultants, compared to how much their salaries will be.

JOHESU is an amorphous body. They should come and fight as individual professional groups. What applies to physiotherapists may not apply to nurses. Consultant physiotherapist makes sense, but not consultant nurse. There is also no need for consultant radiographers and optometrists when consultant radiologists and ophthalmologists are available. What value will the consultant radiographers and optometrists impart that the radiologist and ophthalmologist can't? It will bring anarchy in health care practice. What will consultant lab scientists do in the labs? Even abroad, they mostly don't work in hospitals, but just consult in different facilities just like consultants in other disciplines generally.

I just pray the government will handle this issue maturely and bring a lasting solution to this chaos. God bless us all.

Outstanding logic.

Sunshinelady: . Shut d mess up, wat is not enlightening about his comment? Are u blind or slow dat u can't grasp d points he made? (MODs wich one is 'mess up' again? Can't u allow me express myself? Pls wat I said is 'shut d f_uc*k u*p! )

Why so much venom. The fact that you don't see anything wrong with the post is rather frightening. Do you require an explanation or would you rather vent your spleen after all love makes the world go round.

Lets take Dr. Adewale Owolabi is a health expert opinion as the first. he bares his mind.




this is another opinion

MeAboki: In a house of 10, when only 1 is against the rest then something fishy must be going on, because all other 9 cannot be wrong.
Doctors greed and selfishness against other health workers is the cause of this wahala.
Imagine going on strike because:
you don't want others to graduate as consultants - even though anyone can become consultant in his own field
you don't others to be promoted to directors - even though the law entitles them to it
you don't want others to skip GL 11 - even though the law entitles them to it like other civil servants.
you want house officers & resident doctors to be paid teaching allowances - even though they are students & not teaching anybody.
You want to be given the highest Hazard allowance - even though there are others more exposed to hazards than you.
you want to take over control importation of laboratory reagents & equipment - even though there is the laboratory regulatory body (MLSCN) as provided by law
you want to head departments or organisations of other health professionals - e.g. NAFDAC even though they are not meant for you.
you do not want other professionals to head hospitals or become minister for health - even though these positions are essentially and purely administrative/political.

And the list goes on.....haba doctors, na una only be ppl?

The above post was by an individual making his opinion known concerning this issue by his reckoning this Dr is talking thrash since a high % of Drs wont support his opinion as expressed but that's beside the point.




here is a 3rd opinion an intellectual and unbised one if i may say so

nnewa: itz a pity our health system has degenerated to this. i must hold our health system planners, managers & policy makers responsible. itz either of d following:
1we hve lost d basics and grain of team work.
2 d team leader has lost d confidence of d members for reasons of his style of leadership, abuse of power, inability to maintain a balance among component members or an other.
3 an igbo adage has it dat wen a child is of age and demands certain entitlements, he becomes d bad child.
4 we want to retain processes as it has always been not caring if they need refinement.

many pple hv written and even wen attempting a fair analysis end up exposing & supporting their constituencies.
cant we make contributions without being sarcastic or make statemnts dat obviously
debase any people or job description to score points?. i hv a few questions:
1 wat is in d name consultants dat we must attain or defend
2 wen a doctor finally invites d services of another in his management of a a patient is it in a mere division of labour or recognition if d nxt person's ability.
3 some contributors make it look dat every person wants consultancy. cant there be requiremnts & qualifications b4 such is awarded & if one has met them wll it nt b given?
4 JOHESU consultant does it measure up to, diminish add or obscure d medical consultant.
5 wat is d clear threat d non medical consultant poses.
6 if d medical consultant owns d patient cant he lead a team of other non medical consultants in favour of d patient.
6 is there nothing a senior doc can learn frm a nurse about and in treating d patient and vice versa. if there is y pollute d arena dat can improve ur service. also a young hise officer newly engaged has a lot t learn frm his non doc colleagues. so a resident doc in training needs d input if others at diff stages to make it in his exams. y statements that sound disdainful.
7 where is d place of so many other brains who r actually bhind several breakthrus in medicine, d physicists biochemists microbiologists geneticists physiologists etc. i feel these are actually our heroes NOT whoever dat may play tingod
8 if headship of a hosp is managerial how can a non doc CMD who of course has a retinue of other clinical heads and a CMAC weigh negatively to d management if d patient.
9 wat may hv prompted JOHESU reawaking
10 y d bias of senior govt. officials in strike issues.
11 r there no seniors in these gps to sound caution.?

d adage of live and let live can guide us better. one does not tell his fellow man that there is nothing he can do because of your disposition. no little man is told dat to his face.

another

webincomeplus: Looking at things from a neutral perspective, all I see is hatred for doctors as well as inferiority complex.

from a johesuite

tunesoft: I am a Medical lab scientist in one of the state hospitals. I have this strange feeling for doctors, hatred is the extreme form of what i feel about them. Its nothing personal. My family are JOHESU-mother is a nurse practising in the US for more than 16yrs, father is a pharmacist. 2 of my siblings are pharmacist and one a nurse. My mother watched the sunrise daily yesterday and kept on screaming. Theres no place in the US in which the other health workers heads. They are usually headed by doctors. Not all nurses are made consultants. You talk about consultant nurse when you talk about the legal aspect and they dont work in hospitals. Relativity is maintained everywhere in the health sector. Whats the debate about?
As hard as it is for me to write this, i want to be on the side of truth. The doctors in this country are not given the necessary respect that they need. Personally, i have read the 24 point demands and i think theres so much sense in it. The FG needs to do something about this. Lets join our hands and build our health sector. Health they say is wealth

my point one doctors opinion is just that his opinion as you can see different people from different areas have different opinions concerning this issue.


the only interesting thing is this


http://medifieldschoolhealth.com/team.php


thats the link to " Dr owolabis" organisation which am sure he heads.

there are 5 people there

tell me what you notice.

NaMe4: Really?

Augmentin? Never knew penicillins should be avoided in the first trimester o!

As for the artemisinins, though generally avoided (with no scientific evidence of adverse pregnancy outcome), I would need to know the reason for your cause for alarm.

I wonder how you even knew it was her first month pregnancy.

i asked what was wrong with the prescription and he is yet to answer.

spankyflex: nigerian doctors:vry selfish n arrogant set of pple

shoooooior. whats with the beef?

katordidi: yea, it always comes down to money somehow or most of it anyways

this case isnt about money at all. read up on the issues and check the so called international practices. be unbiased.

phantom: ............ and Lucifer thought in his heart, "I will be higher than the most high"....... he ended up getting his a** kicked and got kicked out along with a third of heavens host of angels.

.........man ended up and i still suffering from that sin of pride.
if only Lucifer knew his place!

this phantom guy sha

adekayo1234: chai! this war never finish? Am really looking forward to how this will end.

me too.

omotalkie: How about ur "almighty consultant" in antenatal clinic, who prescribed artesunate & Augumentin (two strong drugs) for my sister in her first month pregnancy? I tank God she showed me d prescription b4 proceeding, else it wudve ended in DISASTER! (Wch u knw) u may not even knw sef! Cos pple lyk u don't even knw dia onions, Ure opening ur mouth wide. I smh for u

pics of the prescription or idonbilivit.

ps whats wrong with the prescription elaborate pls. i see a flaw

Joenz: NO!Until this phantom MLS comes out publicly like dr Owolabi did,everything credited to her remain mere tissue of lies and figment of the imagination of whoever cooked that up.I av no comments for ur other tantrums.

Really you expect her to come out publicly and state her issue. You make me laugh. Dr owolabi was able to come out and say he disagreed publicly because he was well aware nothing would happen to him unlike the phantom who knowa what her fellow JOHESUITES are capeable of over an issue of difference of opinion. I wouldn't expect advise her to come out.

Joenz: Do you actually think a Lab Scientist can say what was credited to the said Gloria?All is fair in war they say.Many Nigerian physicians can go to any level n do the ridiculous to drive home their egoistic points.I'm not suprised at all.

so first we agree that the Dr gloria whom you "googled" is not the same as the one that you are claiming to be pretending to be an MLS (meaning you are predisposed to telling half truths or outright lies).

secondly if a Dr Owolabi can come out publicly to declare his opinion AGAINST the on going strike for whatever reason does it not stand to reason that an MLS can also be against the stand of JOHESU.

Is this beyond your comprehension

Joenz: All is fair in war YOU say.Many Nigerian physicians can go to any level n do the ridiculous to drive home their egoistic points.I'm not suprised at all.

If this is your opinion I wonder just how far you will go to prove your point. as I said above we only see the world the way we are.

katordidi: i chose the case of keshi 2 emphasize my point, docs provide essential services they could mak do wit wat they 're recievin nw nd continue negotiations wit de govt. Its nt lyk they 're nt being paid. Medicine is nt 4 everybody sha its 4 dos wit compassion. Pls visit a govt hosp near u nd u'll be moved to tears

Do yiu think the strike is all about money??

bymigokeph: since ur so enlightened on this issue y not educate people instead of....

After repeated attempts at education fails what do you do?

Exmay: . If being a Professor = Consultant, then na only Professor of Law pple go dey consult on law matters... Please do the needful and get enlighten before commenting...

Please help me tell him. Am tired of explaining the same thing over and over

Joenz: You see I just did a google search on the name Gloria Ihenacho and the results showed her to be a medical doctor,masquerading here as a Scientist.This sadly is a classical example of how low most Nigerian drs can go to mislead the public and sabotage their colleagues to protect their overbloated ego.This fool s here lying to deride the public to her constituency's advantage,a big disgrace to the noble profession if u ask me.It is therefore left to our policy makers to verify all claims n ascertain their veracity b4 dis chalatans mislead the whole nation as many of us do no have the luxury of time to continue exposing these ignoble maniacs.You claim to be the most brilliant of all,why are u afraid of competing to head the hospital?You a fellowship program of ur council n became a consultant,another man wants to do the fellowship of his council to become a consultant n you said no,is it ur business?This surely is far from being over,the faint-hearted should opt out now when they can!

Check the spelling of the name you googled and the one the op you quoted wrote.


PS do you actually think a fellowship holder in newyork will come to naira land and pretend to be a lab scientist in order to make a point.


Anyway we never see the world the way it is we only see the world the way we are.

tosin2013: With due respect DR, u are spewing rubbish!!!

Were was d silly doc when johesu was on strike for weeks while docs were working ? Mtsceww Attention seeker

This nation is full of hypocrites!!

I already answered this guy buy spam not deleted my post and banned me. I wonder why. Anyway the basic point of my response was its his opinion and he is entitled to it

. However have a look at his media health organisation. ( Google his name)

There are five people on that page. Please tell me what you notice.

PerfectFortune: It is only in Nigeria that the Drs want to head all aspects of the medical profession but want to remainunprofessional, arrogant and complete chEats.

They want All nurses to have Bsc cos that is the minimum in the USA currently (without a pay rise and when they get there Phd they should not be addressed as Drs of Nursing and when they become Profs should still not be consultants) . Pharm D should not be approved (as it is currently in the USA) cos it will give the Pharmacists the privilege of being addressed as Drs which will inturn lead to them becoming a consultant and as such can head a medical institution which is d practise in the USA currently.

They are less concerned about the patients, self centered, arrogant and completely undertrained (unprofessional) harbalists are better than some of them but want to remain at the top.

Na wa o

Please try and be at least enlightened on issues before commenting.

ibietela2: What is this thread about sef

abeg when you get answer pm me.

snadguy007: Has FIFA ban Nigeria ??

every once in a while i come across a post that is just hilarious.

Lets take Dr. Adewale Owolabi is a health expert opinion as the first. he bares his mind.




this is another opinion

MeAboki: In a house of 10, when only 1 is against the rest then something fishy must be going on, because all other 9 cannot be wrong.
Doctors greed and selfishness against other health workers is the cause of this wahala.
Imagine going on strike because:
you don't want others to graduate as consultants - even though anyone can become consultant in his own field
you don't others to be promoted to directors - even though the law entitles them to it
you don't want others to skip GL 11 - even though the law entitles them to it like other civil servants.
you want house officers & resident doctors to be paid teaching allowances - even though they are students & not teaching anybody.
You want to be given the highest Hazard allowance - even though there are others more exposed to hazards than you.
you want to take over control importation of laboratory reagents & equipment - even though there is the laboratory regulatory body (MLSCN) as provided by law
you want to head departments or organisations of other health professionals - e.g. NAFDAC even though they are not meant for you.
you do not want other professionals to head hospitals or become minister for health - even though these positions are essentially and purely administrative/political.

And the list goes on.....haba doctors, na una only be ppl?

The above post was by an individual making his opinion known concerning this issue by his reckoning this Dr is talking thrash since a high % of Drs wont support his opinion as expressed but that's beside the point.




here is a 3rd opinion an intellectual and unbised one if i may say so

nnewa: itz a pity our health system has degenerated to this. i must hold our health system planners, managers & policy makers responsible. itz either of d following:
1we hve lost d basics and grain of team work.
2 d team leader has lost d confidence of d members for reasons of his style of leadership, abuse of power, inability to maintain a balance among component members or an other.
3 an igbo adage has it dat wen a child is of age and demands certain entitlements, he becomes d bad child.
4 we want to retain processes as it has always been not caring if they need refinement.

many pple hv written and even wen attempting a fair analysis end up exposing & supporting their constituencies.
cant we make contributions without being sarcastic or make statemnts dat obviously
debase any people or job description to score points?. i hv a few questions:
1 wat is in d name consultants dat we must attain or defend
2 wen a doctor finally invites d services of another in his management of a a patient is it in a mere division of labour or recognition if d nxt person's ability.
3 some contributors make it look dat every person wants consultancy. cant there be requiremnts & qualifications b4 such is awarded & if one has met them wll it nt b given?
4 JOHESU consultant does it measure up to, diminish add or obscure d medical consultant.
5 wat is d clear threat d non medical consultant poses.
6 if d medical consultant owns d patient cant he lead a team of other non medical consultants in favour of d patient.
6 is there nothing a senior doc can learn frm a nurse about and in treating d patient and vice versa. if there is y pollute d arena dat can improve ur service. also a young hise officer newly engaged has a lot t learn frm his non doc colleagues. so a resident doc in training needs d input if others at diff stages to make it in his exams. y statements that sound disdainful.
7 where is d place of so many other brains who r actually bhind several breakthrus in medicine, d physicists biochemists microbiologists geneticists physiologists etc. i feel these are actually our heroes NOT whoever dat may play tingod
8 if headship of a hosp is managerial how can a non doc CMD who of course has a retinue of other clinical heads and a CMAC weigh negatively to d management if d patient.
9 wat may hv prompted JOHESU reawaking
10 y d bias of senior govt. officials in strike issues.
11 r there no seniors in these gps to sound caution.?

d adage of live and let live can guide us better. one does not tell his fellow man that there is nothing he can do because of your disposition. no little man is told dat to his face.

another

webincomeplus: Looking at things from a neutral perspective, all I see is hatred for doctors as well as inferiority complex.

from a johesuite

tunesoft: I am a Medical lab scientist in one of the state hospitals. I have this strange feeling for doctors, hatred is the extreme form of what i feel about them. Its nothing personal. My family are JOHESU-mother is a nurse practising in the US for more than 16yrs, father is a pharmacist. 2 of my siblings are pharmacist and one a nurse. My mother watched the sunrise daily yesterday and kept on screaming. Theres no place in the US in which the other health workers heads. They are usually headed by doctors. Not all nurses are made consultants. You talk about consultant nurse when you talk about the legal aspect and they dont work in hospitals. Relativity is maintained everywhere in the health sector. Whats the debate about?
As hard as it is for me to write this, i want to be on the side of truth. The doctors in this country are not given the necessary respect that they need. Personally, i have read the 24 point demands and i think theres so much sense in it. The FG needs to do something about this. Lets join our hands and build our health sector. Health they say is wealth

my point one doctors opinion is just that his opinion as you can see different people from different areas have different opinions concerning this issue.


the only interesting thing is this


http://medifieldschoolhealth.com/team.php


thats the link to " Dr owolabis" organisation which am sure he heads.


tell me what you notice.