₦airaland Forum

KevinDein:
But the feeling isn't really mutual if we are honest.
Your brothers prefer living in the North even when they were told to leave. They find the place very pleasant

Oh, you bet that would be dealt with. Identifying the problem (in this case the igbo drug dealers) it's halfway solving the problem. Next is coming up with appropriate laws that would stifle their activities. Hopefully you won't cry foul when such measures are put in place.

Enjoy your day

on your second paragraph it will not be halfway solving anything if the fundamental issues that give rise to the youths desperately looking for avenues to get high is not addressed

nextstep:
I'll reiterate: we have to condemn all those who sell things that harm any member of our country (whether hard drugs or abused prescription medicine), because we are all in this together. An entire generation of our youths are being decimated in the core North.

I understand that what' we're talking about here is prescription medicine. I also feel what we all have a responsibility to make sure drugs are not abused. I would like to see those importing/selling these drugs support tighter laws regulating the supply of these drugs. Perhaps one should only get them under the discretion of a pharmacist, licensed medical professional, or be only sold the amount that is prescribed for treating symptoms of cough and pains. Those who sell outside these controls (i.e. illegally) should be sanctioned.

Codeine and tramadol are both narcotics - controlled substances (not illegal, just controlled) - prescribed to an treat moderate to severe pain.
They have a high risk for addiction and dependence, and can cause respiratory distress and death when taken in high doses or when combined with other substances, especially alcohol.

There are many fine points to debate and argue about, but I honestly feel this is a ticking time bomb.

have you heard the name dahiru mangal?that should answer your question about people involved in bringing in some of these things(he is not the only one but a major player)

nextstep:
To my brothers all over Nigeria: to my Hausa brothers; to my Igbo brothers; my Yoruba; to my Igala, Fulani, Itshekiri, Anioma, and so many much more, please lend me your ears and at least listen to what I have to say with an open mind.

This is the second "dog-whistle" I've heard this week about this issue. For those who don't know, the phrase "Dog-whistle" in politics is a messaging technique employing coded language that appears to mean one thing to the general population but has an additional, different, or more specific resonance for a targeted subgroup (wikipedia)

We're here arguing about demand and supply. One side argues that Igbos too love money to care about people's welfare, while the other side argues that without demand, there'd be no supply. Both sides may have valid points (as if this was debate team) but are missing the crucial issue, and the looming danger.

I'm from Asaba area, so whoever wants to discredit my opinion can latch unto something.

It wasn't so long ago that our Igbo brothers were selling so much fake drugs that they put the lives of millions of children, their relatives, and loved ones jeopardy. To quote Dr. Dora Akunyili (an Igbo woman by the way) "so many of (her) countrymen and women (were) fighting killer diseases like malaria and tuberculosis with little more than sugar syrup and chalk tablets, cynically packaged to look like the real thing"

The majority of people who threatened her life in order to continue their line of business were mostly - it must be said - Igbo. This is a fact. Without her brave and selfless struggle - which sees that even pure water sachets have an approval stamp - a lot more people would be dead or barely living with badly damaged bodies.

We have to condemn all those who sell things that harm any member of our country (whether hard drugs or abused prescription medicine), because we are all in this together. Entire youths are being decimated in the core North. For those who are defending them, the criminals you're defending because of tribalism or ethnicity don't give a damn about whose lives they destroy - even yours and your loved ones. Criminals, like corrupt politicians, come from all parts of Nigeria, and the irony has always been that: those who defend them due to tribalism, are the very ones who suffer.

Now to the dog-whistle, which a lot of us appear to be deaf to:

Our children are massively into drugs because there is massive, unceasing and incessant supply. We must staunch the supply. [/b]Then review our laws. Then detoxify our children. Or simultaneously and concurrently.


Pan-Arewa, the Jama’atu Nasril Islam (JNI), Northern CAN, Usman Bugaje’s Arewa Research and Development Project (ARDP), the Arewa Consultative Forum (ACF), the Northern Elders Forum (NEF) and those Arewa October Youths must [b]just have to collaborate and do something in unison, for once.

We just have to do it, and may Allah make it easy for us.

Now, I'm not a fortune-teller, nor a prophet with divine vision, but I can tell if it's going to rain by how dark the clouds look. And I'm saying though it may looks sunny now, the clouds are gathering. Are we prepared to deal with a horde* of drugged-up youths who have been given orders to wipe you out? We can debate about demand-side or supply-side economics, but when the horde hears and responds to the whistle, all they will know is that "the suppliers must be wiped out".

I wish I had a bigger platform to make this appeal: we have to condemn drug trafficking no matter who is doing it. There are many other ways to make a good living, by making things and offering services that benefit us. It does us no good to defend activity that will turn around and bite us, or a loved one. We must be our brothers' keeper no matter where he is from because it's only then we can prosper as a nation of black people.

*To my northern brothers, please don't take offense at the word horde... I only mean it within the context of a group of people who are under the influence of drugs.

Oh, and to those who think that splitting the country will solve all our problems: some criminal Igbo traders happily sell counterfeit drugs and parts to Igbo people too.

drug trafficking here implies illegal drugs..the drugs in question here are not and they are not fake

slowice:
Yes they ve seen the problem, they want to deal with problem but they just ve to put the blame on somebody or a tribe to make it easier for their people to act. History has show that for the people of Northern Nigeria to act they must ve to blame the Igbos somehow. I live close to a place in ph where we ve large numbers of Northerners, in my years I ve observe that some of them re always sniffing stuff in a bottle or hanky n by this time hard drugs isn't popular at all, you hardly see guys smoking or doping publicly. Drug addiction ve been prevalent in the north for many years[b] but they are just paying attention now [/b]n looking for a tribe to blame as usually.

they are doing that now because it is now affecting their elite(kids and women)

Omofunaab2:
Is it only trams and codeine you wayrays supply to the public?

what is the topic about?

jodeci:
The writer had better be careful because the guys might come for him if they discover he wants to stand between them and their source of drugs supply.

Drug addiction is so bad that victims can go to any length to satisfy their hunger for drugs.

you dey mind him..i got a guy here in abuja that some of these youths broke into his chemist shop because the guy stopped selling codeine and tramadol..they probably thought he was lieing when he told them he no longer sold them..they scattered and ransacked the shop.

Omofunaab2:
It's funny how no single igbo on this thread see anything wrong in selling hard drugs to the public.

This is what we keep saying about these people

so tramadol and codeine are hard drugs now right?you dey well so?

neezar:
They've used almost all the lands there, I Just don't know why the Federal government don't wanna turn that Polytechnic to a university

not sure if it makes much difference as polytechnic is for a particular set of skills(practical)

Aaronsrod:
Science fools!

They do not realize we are slaves to spirits demons and powers waaay beyond our control.

Without our pastors we would be a nation of lesbians gays, thieves and killers!

God bless our divine Temitope! Without him we are nothing before the forces of Evil.

without science you would not have made use of this website in the first instance

post=66421647:
The road is still under construction.

ok

post=66409223:
The road lead to express

wonder why it is not tarred

nextstep:
You have a good point. Initially, I was going to say: "nobody forced them to become junkies...", but on a deeper level, one needs to listen to the subliminal message being sent, which is: "Igbo are responsible for all your problems, from poverty to drugs abuse". In these months running up to elections, dog whistles like these need to be carefully monitored and countered.

what this scenario seems to.suggest is that the average person over there can't think for himself

Elliot2:
whatever! whether the medication is legal or not,we all will agree that people now abuse it,leading to grave consequence. And therefore stakeholders are looking for means to address it. The above Prof has only hinted that the suppliers of those drugs-whether their intentions were good or not-are most the Igbo's. It is their problem,and they have identified the source,so please we should leave them to sort their people's issues.

if they are truly concerned about their people addictions to these drugs(I actually feel it is the because the elite's kids have joined the fray)they should find out why their people are aggressively seeking out avenues to get high that highlighting just one aspect of the issue

Elliot2:
If you are addicted to sex,and ur girl fails to turn up while u r on heat,can u go to bed like that? won't u masturbate to free yourself? Those guys have been introduced to drugs and are addicted, therefore they will try anything to give them highness. The point is,who is introducing them to this life?-it is the supplier! no body was born a drug addict-he or she was introduced to it at some point. so the major culprit is the supplier,without whom none will be victim. Please,we should leave the northerners to solve their own issues. I don't know what business is with the Igbo man who is not in the north,unless u are part of the drug network.

your first two sentences or questions show me you do not even understand what I am getting at..what made them addicted to gutter fumes and soakaway pits in the first instance?hope you know that addiction start far back before the 'power' of codeine and tramadol became known? I repeat why was that addiction there in the first instance?you realize that even if codeine and tramadol are curtailed they will find other outlets?

Elliot2:
If this is the kind of attitude u guys will put up in ur Biafra,I think it will be a terrible place. the prof pointed out that from those that have been arrested, it shows the Igbo's are the major suppliers of the drugs the youths abuse. you can't counter that observation! So what the hell are u guys ranting?! do you want them to let your brothers be simply because they are not forcing the northerners to take or abuse it? Can you say that to the Malaysian and Indian govts., argue for your brothers in different cells and have them freed?

take this biafra talk to the dustbin as I am not interested..I repeat if you are disciplined around alcohol and prescription drugs you deserve to shut up and find out why people abusing it are doing so in the firsr instance...as for the Malaysian and Indian issue wrt to this I guess you do not know the difference between legal and illegal drugs

Elliot2:
how can they stop when they are addicted to it already,all thanks to the drug Lords mostly from the east. do you mean that the govts. of Malaysia,India and all the rest that comes hard on your brothers,do not know what is leading their people into the act? Whether their govt made them jobless or not,it does not give u right to sell those hard drugs to them.

why are addicted to fumes from suckaway pits and gutter fumes?answer this first?

0monnak0da:
My take is there is a bigger demand problem in the North than elsewhere and my theory is that it is related to the clamp doown on alcohol

exactly the scenario..the clamp down on alcohol..probably why this menace is much lower in the south (at least east)

Elliot2:
I don't know why the igbo here are antagonising the man for this open truth that their brothers are the major suppliers of drugs to the north,therefore causing the epidemic. This attitude of "them against us" is becoming disgusting. I can remember my nysc days in kogi stay,where I served had the Igbo's exclusively as owners of all shops and supermarkets. You need to see how both the old and young drink to stupor from the dry gins supplied by those guys. They don't care about the effect those things have on the consumers,all they care is the profit. It is very bad,and when drug enforcers go after them no body should say "victimization".

yes blame shop sellers for the indiscipline of drinkers you just can't make this up

tiger28:
this aint no trash.....this is a FACT!!!.Those that have been arrested transporting the drugs are igbos.if EVERYONE thinks that this is ok because they aren't forcing the northerners to use it then we shouldn't be angry when our brothers are arrested in malaysia. This is how it all started....when we love money so much that we dont care about the well being and health of our own brothers and sisters then something is inherently wrong with us as a people.

if you do not solve the issue why those guys are hooked on drugs in the first instance if you like wipe out the whole igbos in nigeria it wouldn't solve up to 10% of the drug issues in the north.

hammer6F:
IF YOUTH IN THE SOUTH GO TO CHEMIST TO BUY MEDICINE AND START DRINKING, WHO IS TO BLAME.

THE CHEMIST OR THE PERSON THAT WENT TO BUY MEDICINE AND START DRINKING LIKE FANTA?

WAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS MEDICATION NOT DRUGS.

THUS, THE TITLE IS MISLEADING.

the "advantage' the south has is that alcohol is freely taken there unlike in the muslim north..but the guys in the muslim north are also humans who want a form of escapism from their own issues so since they cannot drink alcohol freely because of religous injunctions they have to seek other ways to gain relief

0monnak0da:
They are illegal if you do not have authority to possess handle or supply them just like guns and bullets
If you are caght with one gun it is not the same as having a container full of guns so the quantity also matters

banning those drugs up north does not solve the underlying issue why the youths,women and even rich folks there abuse it..ban those drugs another outlet to 'feel cool' will simply surface or the banning will simply up the price of those drugs and simply make those guys that sell it richer

abduljabbar4:
That doesnt make sense. If we are to go by your logic it means that drug peddlers shouldnt be arrested at all

so codeine and tramadol are illegal drugs right?

inability to introspect is a very big issue..like igbo people forced guys up there to abuse tramadol and codeine

Abagworo:
Every form of development at home must be encouraged and not politicized so that more people will think home. The biggest move by Okorocha recently is bringing Alaba market to Owerri. I understand most Igbo politicians have this hatred and jealousy for Okorocha and are behind all the media propaganda against his person and his State in order to humble him. Okorocha on his part seems too busy with his ambition and quest to leave unrivaled legacy to notice the propaganda.

what do you mean by this?

IgboticGirl:
i understand dat but every thing must not be about money and gains



is should about being patriotisim and what is right



all this hotels wont make area develop but rather it will encourage immorality

wrong perception as hell..go tell nevada to close down all casinos and hotels in that area since those outfits promotes 'immorality' too..no need for this pedestrian thinking..by the way it is not all parts of igboland that there is a deluge of hotels springing up..in some other parts it is other industrial and business concerns..there are some igbo people who are not all money and gains..everyone should be allowed to build what he or she wants to build as far as it is legal.

IgboticGirl:
i am saying dat igbos take the first step in actualizing if only they stop building hotel

errrrh people build what they want to build..you cannot shame them to build what you like..it is not as if a few have not build unis in se(of course non is world class like the rest of nigeria)

IgboticGirl:
how many private university do we have in south



we need more university


[b]international standand [/b]not all this mini secondary

please which nigerian uni is actually international standard?

IgboticGirl:
build more university will create more employment


most yorubas elite are building university while our own are into hotels


is not good


that is y most of youth sschool there

lets bring our kids back home ...

this line of thinking actually has it flaws but continue

IgboticGirl:
how many private university do we have in south



we need more university


international standand not all this mini secondary

only the sw has more private unis than se..if you ask me i am actually more interested in solid primary and secondary schools than universities because if you miss it from the basic you have missed it..and in the se there are lots of private primary and secondary compared to other parts of the country(perhaps minus sw)..churches helped a great deal here .

IgboticGirl:
if only Igbos can hid with what Bill Gate said about investing on Education and health i will be happy



in south east we build more hotels than school

let us iGBo start being the first to bring advanced development


lets set the pace

false you see what you want to see..ok if na lie bring data showing se is lacking in literacy,school enrolment and health indices compared to other parts of the country..you just dont say things with emotion and hold it as fact.

IgboticGirl:
We have long way to go and d earlier we d start it d better for us

infrastructure building is going on everywhere..if you travel you will see

IgboticGirl:
it is my brother

it is not because if it is people will not complain about their leaders in developed world..their infrastructure is top notch isn't it?