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aspabay: Well copied and well pasted
Church exists for the promotion of the kingdom of God. Service to humanity is intertwined with this task.
Who pays to sponsor Evangelism,(personal, out reaches, media etc)
Who pays the bills incurred by the church (utilities etc)
Who pays the church workers who are full time employees
Who pays for other modifications, beautification and enlargement of the church.
I can go on and on.
All you want the church to do is charity. There is much more to do aside from charity, which of course almost all churches are engaged in, in varied ways and methods.
So OP, leave the churches alone and mind your business. Direct your grievances to the govt taking your taxes.

Why doesnt God pay for these things?

It is clear churches are means for ppl to gather. Nothing more. So why not do something tangible with the gathering. Raise money to do charity and community works. The church keeps asking for more money but never gives anything in return.

^^^

Really? Religion and better mental health?

You need to come to Nigeria. It is the direct opposite. Religion is turning ppl into cold blooded murderers and paranoid schizophrenics.

ihedioramma: THAT IS NOT WHAT AM SAYING. AM TALKING OF HOW OUR YOUNG GIRLS,LADYS OR WOMAN SELL THERE BABYS FOR MONEY LIKE AS IF IS A PHONE AND CALL IT ADOPT. IS IT NOT BLOOD MONEY?

Isnt it meant to be illegal to do stuff like that

Agnosticism is a safer view point however they are not too far off from atheists. They reject the Abrahamic God too. So why do xtians like using them as some sort of shining example.

Paschal007: That said i hope and pray that the evangelical, fanatic atheist on this forum who spend up to 19-22 hrs obsessing about God don't kick their kids out if they dare become religious.

If he/she wanrs to be a xtian, muslim, hindu, buddhist, pagan or any other religion it is their preserved right and I will support them. As long as they dont bexome evil with their religion i.e. boko haram extremist or tithe robbing pastor.

Not too long ago I was told that anytime a group of xtians gather for prayer (outside the church) an offering must be collected.

I am curious as to what these things mean and what scripture says about them.

brotherly: Any real deliverance is supposed to be done by appropriating the word of God, However saying that being born again places one above the need for deliverance is not entirely correct. Here in Africa there are a lot of negative spiritual transactions our forebears entered on our behalf without our knowledge, such cases have to be treated specially

Here we go again

So what did Africas forefathers do that is so much worse than other parts of the world?

I am really tired of the stupidity of these xtians. Do you know this deliverance does more harm than good? It creates so much fear that ppl feel the need to go multiple times. Ppl also change too. They become more paranoid.

Stake. At the time of Christ the Romans rarely used crosses for crucifixion. A long stake saved wood and was cheaper. Check out Spartacus. He was crucified and it was by a stake too.

cyrexx: A christian (and muslim's) mind is damaged from cognitive dissonance.. in order to sustain Christianity, it has toaccept contradicting beliefs .. such contradictions are just part of how a christian "thinks", and rather than face them they hide behind the crutch of "god is mysterious" "we should not question" "you do not understand my faith".

The problem is, I've never met a christian who really DOES understand their OWN faith. Its just not possible to understand it as a whole

And then they call Atheists fools. Most know little about their religion. They know little about God, next to nothing about heaven and hell, even less about how they should treat unbelievers etc.

Ppl are confusing the issue. The issue is that the child has a right to whatever religion they prefer or no religion at all. It is a fundamental human right.

If the child is committing criminal acts or putting your life and those of others in danger then you can disown such a child. For religous purposes you either reason with the child or let the child be.

What if my child decides to be xtian? Should I throw the child out?

This even extends to marriage these days. Some parents refuse to allow their offspring to marry other xtian debominations i.e. Catholic marrying Anglican or pentecostal etc. Where is the love and tolerance?

Why must an individual stick to only one church? Wouldnt it be wiser to atend multie churches so that one can attain knowledge from different churches?

So what did he do? Did he take the wife back or not?

musKeeto: Believe it or not, most would take the first one.

Maybe God had a reason. There are lessons we're supposesd to learn. All scripture is God inspired and for our learning and instruction. God knows best. His ways are not our ways.....

There's a way that seemeth right to man...

It is clearly the first. Anyone who argues otherwise is deluded and a fool

God created all men equal. God also ensured that some are more EQUAL than others and hence above others. This means God did not create all men equal after all and we have a paradox. No need to worry about this however as xtianity is full of paradoxes and God Himself in all His omnipotent glory is a paradox too.

Xtians and their esoteric nonsense
Why not just keep it simple. We all know the adam story is a lie. The "mythological" claims are just to save face.

julietjuks: IT IS ONLY A FOOL THAT SAYS THERE IS NO GOD BECAUSE HE IS WITHOUT EXCUSE EVEN NATURE ITSELF CAN NOT DENY THE EXISTENCE OF GOD.DO U THINK O SIMPLE THAT ALL U SEE WAS A MERE ACCIDENT. THINK AGAIN. GOD LOVES U.

You guys love calling ppl fools. I hope you can accept as good as you can give.

We cant take God to court for the actions in the old testament. This is because God as an entity does not exist.

We can however take men of God to court who commit atrocities in the name of God.

true2god: Birds of a feather already flocking together. An open atheist openly acknowledging a view of an undeciding atheist.

We are watching.

But he is right. These false pastors are doing a disservice to xtianity. Why cant you see that?

What about if you are married, you are away from your wife for a month. You decide to self-service using your wife as a thought.

Since it is your wife it can hardly ne called cheating or impure

This is over 600 years after Muhammads death.

Paris_Love: Lol, have a little 'faith'. if they could be worried about 'sexualiazation' of infidel women in the west, surely they would be more than willing to correct this injustice done against their women...hopefully ~

Well. Hopefully is the right word. We can only hope theu respond.

No one is gonna answer you .

They dont like difficult topics

greatgenius: why should there be a limits on these

Society and the individual decide the limit.

For instance as a heterosexual I am limited to only one sexual gender. It is who I am and hence it is a limit. Some are not limited as they are bi.

In the West monogamic laws limit most people to kne partner.

frosbel: Indeed it was, they politically controlled and dominated Europe during the middle ages and even authorized wars , subjugated kingdoms and kings etc , none of these actions were encouraged or supported by the bible.

You cannot eat your cake and have it !

So did Islam. Even today some Islamic countries are ruled by certain Islamic groups. That does not make Islam a political theology. These groups still fall into a standardised system of govt. It is not a political ideology. Its specific purpose and reason for being is for religious purposes.

The papacy has a small territory it governs (vatican city). That doesnt make them a political ideology. Also atheism is not a religion either so it would be pretty different to kill in the name of atheism.

Finally, try and understand this.... COMMUNISM IS NOT ATHEISM. You can have non atheist communist countries and you can have non communist atheist countries.

It would be like calling xtianity a political party because America is Xtian.

greatgenius: ..one of the reasons why humanity is still uncivilized.. but what limits if I may ask

Number of partners. Their sexual preferences and sexual activities.

frosbel: well catholicism was also a political ideology , no ?

Really? Catholicism is a political ideology? Hmmmm...

I think not. It is a religion.

I also heard they found noahs ark in Turkey.

How come no one has been able to identify the garden of eden?

greatgenius: are you sure you are not?.. I'm your god brother... My interest though lies in the fact that you seem to be surprised by my answer..do you believe there should be limits ?

There will always be limits. These are defined by society and the imdividual.

tpia@:
Those of you who have the same whine on every thread.

Why mot be specific so we know what you are talking about?

Are you referring to thw atheist vs xtian debates?

greatgenius: of course no limits should be placed on it ..why should there

Gulp

No limits

Are you sure you are a xian?

Evolution my god man is how we came about

Things are beautiful but there are ugly and shocking things too.

Ever thought of how wasps lay their eggs in caterpillars?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wasp

What about other parasites?

wiegraf: An obvious "be careful" is in order, even if just to satisfy social norms. You an amateur/pro photographer?

Ahh, off topic

Amateur photographer. It is more about the conquering of the mountain than the pictures.

greatgenius: without the stigma and guilt

Sure but with limits or without limits?