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CAMEROONPRIDE: naijans are known to always be in a hurry , you should try something new, a new specimen , get a CAMEROONIAN.
on a serious note [b]you look very young [/b]take your time , life is not a race , i'm sure he can wait ,but m not sure if he won't pop someone else cherry

I was gonna say the same thing too.

@OP

Arent you a bit young to be thinking about stuff like that and having boyfriends?

Try and focus on the more important things in life at your age (education, personal development, sports, family etc). There is plenty of time later for both boyfriends and sex. They can be a major distraction at such a critical time. By the way, how old are you?

^^^

Plus no bomb attacks too and no one died on our roads.

princeakolo: fulanis mother fucker, ombatse kill them all retreat no surrender we most win it our land they can win in jesus name

I didnt get a word of that. Are you yay or nay for fulani herdsmen?

Reyginus: Okay. Though it seems you just made this one up.

How do you know?

Also.... who cares if ppl were converted or not? It doesnt change anything.

Paschal007: They'll make their choices and live by it just like i made mine. And no the confrontation wasn't aggressive. Just the usual question and answer, they thought i joined a cult. Cultist activities was making waves around that time.

Good to hear it

Louis007: What do u suggest I do? because I dnt knw how long I can be strong. Am quite focused

Any other way of understanding what u pointing at? Pls talk to me

I dont have all the answers but keep looking for opportunities, try and remain positive, find a means of putting money in your pocket (maybe a lesser paying job) , find a way to do technical training coursed etc. Also consider a masters degree in a course like petroleum engineering or oil and gas engineering.

Heatblast: Haha... That is part of the numerous techniques they use in ensuring that kids stay brainwashed

Side by side with refusing to answer questions.

overdrive: Amen

Dont you want to know if this dude is legit?

I have witnessed gatherings outside of church where offerings are collected.

Is this standardised or is this dubious? Bear in mind this is for house fellowship etc.

Louis007: Funny enough, 80% of jobs I applied for aren't OIl n Gas.I'v even applied to entertainment industry.
I still haven't known what my prob is. because I'v tired. Am beginning to tink its spiritual.

It isnt spiritual. Once you go down that route you will totally be lost. You have to focus. And be strong.

I know someone who was 4 years no employment and even lost his wife due to the unfortunate circumstances. He is doing pretty well right now.

PAGAN 9JA:
Buddhism is worldwide, it is pure spirituality. I myself adhere to some teachings of Busshism. Buddhism has always complemented Pagan Traditional religions well in the East.

for example:

Japan: Buddhism / Shintoism
China:Buddhism / Chinese Traditional Religion
India:Buddhism / Hinduism
Tibet:Buddhism / Bon
Mongolia: Buddhism / Tengriism
etc. .



about the ritual killings and laws, you are stating a very vague example. there are laws against MURDER, RAP.E, CORRUPTION, CHILD ABUSE, etc..

DOES THAT MEAN IT STILL DOESNT TAKE PLACE

christiannity and islam has been the order of the day, has that stopped ritual killings? NO!
infact the other day a church was accused of using body parts, abeg for what?

atleast if there is established Pagan Religions as State Religions , people will be more afraid to invoke the wrath of the Spiritual Force by comitting crime.

The end point is that Pagan Traditional Religion is the need of the hour for Nigeria and the rest of Africa and the developing Tribal world.

Because Pagan religion and Tribal Culture is inseparable. if one loses out, the other will be gone for shown.

unbelievers do not really need to believe. they just need to adhere to and practice it as base Tribal Duty.

For example i know many people in INdia who are not so religious , yet they cleberate their Traditional Festivals and visit their shrines, etc., as a duty.

THis concept of Duty towards your identity must be ever-present.

I agree. Buddhism seems the closest to any religion I would accept. The issue with paganism is in Nigeria or Africa as a whole. Nigeria has a way of tsking the worst of things. It did the same with the Abrahamic faiths. If paganism became dominant i cant see how something similar wont occur.

How many pastors willl convert to babalawos offering financial success for some human Instruments and a small fee .

How would the organised paganist groups clamp down on such stuff. Nigeria is a very lawless society we cant rely on the police to do such.

Heatblast: Exactly.. Even children don't believe this poo.. If you go to a sunday school for children, you'll see them asking lots of similar questions. But their sunday school teachers shut them up in a manner similar to this

Lol. I heard that about a gazillion times when I was younger. I got hit over the head with a bible a couple of times too

Louis007: Looking at the finance, I will say "no".I applied for a no of oversea scholarships but didn't work out. And I graduated wit 2.2. If it was 2.1 or 1st class maybe I would hv gotten one.

Dont give up. It is a difficult time in the oil and gas sector (especially in Nigeria). Just keep at it, try and look at other sectors too. Also consider further education. Sometimes witha 2.2 a masters might bolster your chances. I got a 2.2 myself and did a masters.

Stalwert: So is it best you atheist start up thread exhorting one another from committing suicide than trying to counsel theist who already have a legion of solutions and support to fall upon? All is suicide not one of the worst consequence of mental problems?

No you dont. Your so called solutions are creating both social and psychological problems.

We could but there are many reasons for suicide. Until this is looked into in detail then it will be difficult to ascertain if atheism alone is the key factor. Also maybe atheists display a higher tendency in these stats because they are discrimanted against by religions which adds more stress. The same way a xtian in the middle east would.

Stalwert: No statistics, no studies just your hunch at what you "see" and yet you are the ones who are rational? Please if you want to argue, argue on facts not just what your feelings cook up to justify your misguided venture into psychiatry!

Being on ground can make all the difference in countries like Nigeria. Just like on election day a result is presented but ppl at the ballot boxes have a different story. Stats are hard to acquire in Nigeria.

Louis007: I think mine is worst. because I'v worked hard to get out of it, yet am still dere. I read Geology.

If only it was core science or engineering. Dont panic. Are you in a position to travel overseas to study maybe a masters or take some advanced technical courses? This has been a gateway for many ppl into the industry.

Livingwaters: thats like a deaf and dumb saying there is no sound because i cant hear any sound. Or robots saying there is nothing like human being because of the advancement in science/tech which gives so much abilities to modern robots, ur ancestors who did not ve ur education knew that there is God, but u because of advancements of humanity, u are denying God. But u know what? The programmes in advanced robotics was written by man, and man doesnt need the acknowledgement of robots to prove his existence

Now it isnt. The evidence for Gods existence is pretty much nonsense. Read the bible and kuran... you will understand me.

Paschal007: I guess i'll do what my parents did when i stopped attending their own church. Let them be after confrontation.

What type of comfrontation? Nothing too aggressive I hope?

Isnt it better to talk things through? To discuss a lot and get to fully understand their choices?

thorpido: A tithe is 10 percent of your income.
An offering is what you give out of your free will.It can be any amount of money.
A seed is an amount of money you give for a specific purpose with the expectation of an outcome you desire.You are the one to determine what amount you want to give.

So an offering has no specific amount. When are offerings collected?

What type of stuff are seeds given for? Are they personal or church related?

PAGAN 9JA:
you misunderstand. There is no heresy in Paganism. It all depends on public opinion and Govt. Law at the end."

also define organized religion and why is organized religion bad.

You see,

When you visit the tribal people n the bush, you will notice that they practice Raw Paganism. It is not organized. it is inherent.

when you come to the city with governments and civilization, you see organized religions like Ifa ORisha or Odinani (as it was during AroChkwu,etc.), and it is adapted to the organized society.

In the end , it all comes down to the situation.

However, let us not confuse the very Pagan ideology with that of abrahamic monotheism. that cannot be commpromized.

As to your last, this is the standard attitude of Nigerians. I know many people who agree with Traditional Religion, but when it comes to accepting it outrightly, they will just reject it, because THEY REJECT IT. there is no other reason.

It is time Nigerians step out of this narrow mentality.

just the other day i was watching on New, the Japanese celebrating A SHinto Festival in one of their temples, wearing all their (not modern) regalia. you could see businessmen, docotrs and educated people in the midst.

It is time we start taking a lesson of two from the EAST.

To be Pagan is NOT to be underdeveloped.

To summarise. I have no real beef with pagan religions im Nigeria. They are more accepting and more fluid as opposed to the abrahamic faiths. However in regards to Africa I would prefer something similar to Buddhism.

Check out the number of ritual killings. Arent there already laws against such? If there was a way to prevent ritual killings which are endemic right now are likely to escalate if paganism became the order of the day then I would be all for it.

Sure the organised pagan religions may have strict rules against such (thumbs up for that) but how do you prevent the smaller, hidden babalawos? This is a belief system and as long as ppl believe in it, it will happen.

cyrexx: WORD!!

Logicboy, are you taking note?

Your efforts are yielding fruits.

Lol. Logicboy and anonys detailed arguments made me join nairaland.

Now i have been a pestilence here ever since

For suicides. Suicide is only one aspect of mental health.

Heatblast: Good questions; add these to the list
1)Why did god put that tree in the middle of the garden, imagine putting a gun at the centre of a toddler's room
2)God is supposed to know everything(including the future).. Why didn't god see that coming?(Why get angry when you know exactly what is going to happen even before creation)
3)Why did we all get punished for adams sin, why not wipe out the failed creation and start afresh?
4)Why did the snake get punished?(Wasn't it the devil that posessed the snake or Does it also mean that animals also have 'free-will'
Who do we blame for the myth of the fall of man adam, eve, the serpent, the devil, god

It is meant to be a mythical story on how man came about.

Stalwert: ^
And you are suppose to be the rational one arguing on facts? Smh at nl atheism!

It might be the case in other parts of the world but not Nigeria.

Are you based in Nigeria at all? Do you see what is on ground?

Welcome to the REAL world. What you are going through is pretty much similar to what most youths of today are going through. What did you study?

PAGAN 9JA:
yes and no. There is a difference between establlished Pagan religions and private ritualists.

Established Pagan religions (Ifa Orisha, Odinani, Maguzawa, etc. .) do not commit such illegal murders.

whereas Private ritualists do and these pvt. ritualists do not confirm to any particular Pagan religions. They can be (and usually are christians,muslims, or Pagans). They are experimenting with the occult.

I do not wish to lie, because Paganism encompasses everything be it good or bad, in order to maintain the balance.

The Solution is for these private ritualists to be banned, until the formation of a Pagan state in which case if a University of Pagan Studies is established, experimenters with the occult can be legally allowed using body parts (just as in medical institutions for study), from deceased individuals who wish to donate. so they can continue with their experiments or ritual practices. This will prevent future murders.

or it can be otlawed completely ecause as I have explained before, Paganism is too vast and varied a concept and doesnt necessairly require human body parts, as in the case of Established Pagan Religions.

Hmmm.... so prosecute the heretics.... errr... private ritualists.

Sounds alot like organised religion to me.

I have no interest or fondness for paganism. It sounds cool but will never work in Nigeria. Nigerians have the propensity for the macabre. Ritual killings would only increase if paganism flourished. My two cents.

Paschal007: Good to know

Damn right. So what about you? What would you do if your kid wanted to be a muslim or atheist?

Yes, but what exactly are they? I understand what a tithe is but what is an offering and what is a seed?

^^^

So how do we know your legit? You say God spoke to you but how can we know this?

Is paganism responsible for all the current money and power ritual murders that take place?

striktlymi: Depending on what u mean by "fantasize" but its not a sin for a couple to desire each other sexually.

Just answer the question. Is it a sin or not

Also, wouldnt being away from partner with no self service lead to more risk of cheating?

Joagbaje: Adam didn't have any factory problem. There was nothing wrong in him. Satan deceived him into sin.




His nature became corrupt because of sin.



God didn't throw them out of anger. Rather he sent them out of the garden in love. There were two significant trees in the garden. TREE OF KNOWLEDGE ,and TREE OF LIFE.. The tree of knowledge will make man wise and the tree of life will give man permanence and immortality.

Man fell into sin . And his nature got corrupt. If he had gone ahead and eat the tree of life he will remain in that corruption state for ever. That means there will be no redemption for man again. The reason God sent them out was to prevent them from eating of the tree of life . So that the way f salvation can still be open.

Genesis 3:24
Thus God expelled him, and placed mighty angels at the east of the Garden of Eden, with a flaming sword to guard the entrance to the Tree of Life.

Yoi failed to answer the question. Why didnt God recreate Adam?

Livingwaters: Good stuff, to deny The existence of God is to deny the existence of oneself, like saying- 'i do not exist', thats foolishness

But I do exist. God does not define me.... I define myself