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greatgenius: good point...The introduction of polarity was what brought about religion .. Religions has always existed all the way to antiquity from when women used to control every aspect of society till now...

Religion could be blamed for part of the problem but the truth is that THE PEOPLE ARE THE PROBLEM not religion...

When humans begins to remember who they are the need for religion will be no more..

Religion however is now part of the problem. These days there must be a justification for any axtion carried out and it has become too easy to use religion as a convenient excuse. Ppl follow religion blindly and that in itself is why some religions are exploitative

Jakumo: I hear ya about those Zulu maidens who show off their luscious jugs in Swaziland, during the annual Reed Dance for the king, that lucky dawg who gets to pick each year's wife on the basis of how delectable her melons look.

Talk about a serious eyefull. Holy chit ! Swaziland is definitely the hooter capital of the world. Thank you Jeeesus !

Just take it easy lol

Image123: you're bargaining? okay, I'll answer 5 of your questions that you deem important, with Scripture as i think fit.

Scripture

Ok. But I will interpret it.

You have a deal.

Martian: Basically, the earth is a breeding ground for slaves and just like antebellum America you niggers will still be niggers. I hope those slaves and their descendants who love jesus know this.
"Spirit" slaves who have no time for play.............just "work! Work!! And work!!!......."

Now this needs clarification. What type of work?

From the description there will be nothing to do.

caseless: be specific, pls.

It was a weak attempt to try to convert me . I have gotten used to more aggressive attempts on nairaland so you have to step up your game

caseless: Again, do u have any description of the heaven?

The thread is called "heaven pls... describe". Just fill out the info so I can understand what you are expecting to enjoy when you finally move on.

Brisingr: i am beginning to think some people now think atheism is cool@op u ever wondered why there are no people walking to your door trying to convert you to the atheist movement it because its hard to be passionate about a lack of belief.

There is no financial reward for such.

Uyi Iredia: It will be. It's a pretty flexible religion.

It is

It would need to be extremely flexible to survive.

It would need to:

Do away with the old testament
Do away with most of the new
Do away with the belief in God and any other deities
Do away with the binding nature of the religion
Do away with heaven and hell
Add a lot of new stuff mostly related to current society
Add a balanced view in regards to races, cultures, sex, sexuality etc
State that the bible is not literal.
State that the bible is fictional with a view to understanding how to relate with man.

Todaynatoday: What would you possibly learn from something that is non-existent? If there is no heaven, why would you want to discuss about it?
Knowledge is only power when you know how to use it.

You are beating around the bush... another Xtian trait. Why do you care about my interest in heaven? Why not just describe heaven so we can debate and discuss?

caseless: the Godless, if u think that u are breathing, u eat, u drink , u walk, u love, infact, u do everything...and u think there is no God behind those activities u find ursef doin, u must be high on some gruel.

Dont let charles darwing(theory of evolution) decieve u. His work was left unattended to for many years without any reference to it cos it was not factual. His work came to limelight when those that are into something that predate religion needed a tool for their war against religion, that was when his work gained attention.


How can someone tell u that we all came into being as a result of explosion of solar-nebular or teeny-tiny ball?
Or, someone telling u man evolved from monkey and we stil have monkeys here? Ok , if we evolved frm monkeys, why have we not evolved to something else?

After all this rubbish they've postulated, they stil give u room to believe in ultimate designer(GOD). My broda, they ar confusing u.

Like ALBERT EINSTEIN said, "no science without religion".
If it is science that's causing to stray, then listen to what d scientist themselves are sayin.

isaac newton was a xtain. galileo i think was killed as a result of his push to commonise bible so that everybody cud have access to it...cos it was jst about church leaders then. I'm sure it was as result of that simple cult turned into a deadly one today(u knw the cult i mean).

Chaman, wake up!

This is a very poor attempt at proselytyzing. We atheists need a lot more than that.

By the way, have you checked out my heaven thread yet? Pop in and tell me what your description of heaven is.

That and heaven.

Two weapons in the evangelists arsenal

Todaynatoday: You are extremely funny! You say heaven does not exist yet you want a description of heaven.

Because I am open minded and like to learn and discuss things. After all my signature states that knowledge is power

Ppl can say what they want. If there is a God they will face the consequences. So stop blackmailing ppl with fear.

PS through my personal experiences of late on nairaland I have decided that


there is no God

inurmind: all the the threads I have opened actually challenging the practicality of their religion have so far being greatly despised by them.

Same here. Most have dodged talking about heaven in detail.

trolling: but from my research christianity was made the official religion of the roman empire in 321bc by Pope leo and Emperor Constantine, christianity is a religion

321 AD. By emperor constantine. Pope Leo played a role but was part of a group of church leaders who worked towards it.

inurmind: is it just me or do u guys also think Christians hate being challenged?

Some dont mind but most seem to hate it.

This is good.

Most women scream they want attention, they also dont want a broke man

If the man was working all hours to ensure plenty of money and there was a trafe off between time and finances, which would the ladies prefer?

I reckon most would prefer the finances .

ooman: You want me to believe in God? then show me God! You can't? then shut up.

No they dont want you to believe. As long as you pay your tithes and dont ask questions your good

Uyi Iredia: Was car transport available then ? cell phones ? airplanes ? the Internet ? or advanced health care ? You must the stupid to think life was better 2000 years ago. You or I won't be alive 2000 years from now but I'm rest assured that religion will be because it has been over the past millenia and it is an inescapable part of being human.

Ah yes.... but will Xtianity be around in 2000 years?

Dap07: I guess Adeboye's g(G)od didn't see it coming

This has nothing to with Adeboye. It was God who did not see it coming

Because of this post some xtians are selling their property and fleeing to their rapture bunkers.

frosbel: And he lived a wonderful life dying at the age of 32.

At what age did Christ die?

frosbel: And he lived a wonderful life dying at the age of 32.

When did Christ die?

advocate666: You will go to hell for asking silly questions!
Who are you to question god?
Don't you know that you are a tiny little ant to god? (who also created those ants and their dna, by the way)
He does what he wants and will not condescend to answer you.
You must repent today to be saved because he loves you.
But be prepared to burn for eternity if you don't because he is also a jealous god and doesn't tolerate unbelievbers.

Disclaimer: any similarities to an entity that recently escaped yaba left is coincidential.

Is it too late to repent
That reminds me, I should do a thread on hell. I would like to know how much ppl know about hell.

plaetton: Homosexuality has always been a taboo in traditonal afrcian societies. we did not need the bible to tell us that. I[b]nfact, with the exception of ancient Rome, has always been taboo in all cultures up unitl the our common era. [/b]in africa, we are still far behind when it comes to accepting things that our minds are not conditioned to accept. I do not think that homosexuals should be given any special rights. I also do not think that any human being should be persecuted, prosecuted, discriminated on or denied basic human right on the basis of sexual orientation. It should be no one's business about what another person does in the confines of their bedrooms.
As far as homosexuality being a sin. Yes . so? Lying and cheating are sins, envy and jealousy are sins, stealing is a sin, corruption is a sin.Fornication and adultery are sins. Picking the pockets of people in the name of god is a sin. murder is a sin. and so on and so forth.

Are there heirachies of sin? is one sin greater than others in the eyes of your god? If all sinners are going to hell, then what difference does it make whether you are a homosexual sinner or a heterosexual fornicator or adulterer?
If your god is obviously pissed off at all sins, I can understand, but to say that he is more pissed off at homosexuals who do less harm to life than the heterosexual fornicators who kill millions of foetuses on abortions, is to me ,very very silly .

Err.... the Babylonians, the achaemenid Persians, the Greek civilisations. All have at one point practised and had pederasty ingrained into their society.

Spartans specifically were aggressive with thwir form of pederasty.

Alexander the great was gay or at least bi.

advocate666: Hehe
Freewill does not apply to spirits. To use a language you would understand, we will all be like god's zombies. No brainwork. No choice. One direction only: doing only god's will.

If that is the case then what is the purpose of existence?

advocate666: Dear sinner, you are thinking of the things and needs of the flesh. Heaven is a spiritual abode and we will all be there in spirit. Material world needs and doings don't apply. You got it? Do I now sound intelligent to you? If yes, then you are a christian.
Note that I have not answered your question.

Lol. Spiritual or no spiritual but if we have free will and the ability to learn then there will always be certain things in any human society.

They also said no disputes? How can there be no disputes if there is free will?

advocate666: The image of Abraham using a computer got me roflol

Me too.

It poses that question how will p of different historical periods live together in one society?

What type of society does not have an economy?

Image123: i didn't see those questions. Would atheist d get to Heaven? does atheist d want to go to Heaven? I'm asking you personally, it's a more important question than all the ones you've asked on this thread.

I like the question.

If I answer your question would you answer mine?

Can you fill out my heaven questions?

ooman: They have nothing to describe because they are not even sure heaven exist. The wish is the father to the thought. The earth is all there is.

My thoughts too.

Isnt heaven the prize for worshipping God? If Xtians are to spend an eternity there, wouldnt it be prudent for them to know as much about it as possible?

The truth is most know little and it doesnt stand up to scrutiny.

Image123: a discussion that does not permit the use of Scripture is unscriptural, duh. can you please provide the link to your thread, thanks.

Here is the thread

https://www.nairaland.com/1135247/atheist-make-heaven

Also, your primary school cop outs are hilarious. So you cannot answer any question on your religion without quoting scripture? Can you not take that same scripture and break it into my format. You do not want to because you do not want to expose your lack of knowledge. It is best you go to that thread.... no one will ask you difficult questions there.