₦airaland Forum

ObaKlaz:
Our brethren in the South South and the South Eastern regions of Nigeria need to understand
a number of things:

1. Goodluck Jonathan is not coming back . That's a done deal. Now that we've got that out of the way, lets move on!

2. No one is seceding from Nigeria. Nigeria's constitution says Nigeria is 'indivisible' (That's a
direct quote)

3.Everyone in Nigeria is marginalised. Even the North is marginalised.
Even though that region has held sway for most of Nigeria's life as an independent nation, most of the people from the region are just as poor as everyone else. There are more beggars and destitutes in that region than any part of Nigeria. I say this not to insult anyone, but to make the point that the common man in the
North of Nigeria is probably worse off than those in the south of Nigeria.

Nigeria's constitution says 'indivisible'? really? Well the constitution is not greater than the people. The people decide what the constitution is. As an Igbo man, I decide if I want to be Nigerian or not. It is not the job of Lord Lugard to do that for me.

Any Igbo man (or woman) who believes in 'one Nigeria' after the beheading of an Igbo woman in Kano must be a morron. It is best for the Igbo nation to work to leave Nigeria, and as we leave, we take Southern minorities who are comfortable with us along and leave those who are not comfortable with us behind. In any case "one Nigeria" died a long time ago. It is time to turn a new page with a new country.

bejeiodus:
You are absolutely wrong. The presidential system of government started in 1979....Alhaji Sheu Shagari became the first Executive President of Nigeria in 1979.

Shagari was just the first democratic president with executive power. The head of State with the first executive power was Ironsi and all military rulers who came after him

Nigeria started practicing the presidential system Government in 1966. Every president that has emerged since then till now has been a monumental disgrace

It is hard to imagine that in just a year of Buhari's administration, more people have been killed under him by the Nigeria security agencies than any other civil dispensation.Hundreds unarmed IPOB/MASSOB agitators, hundreds of Shia Muslims. All killed by people who are paid to protect life. All of this in a democracy. With all the crimes of this Government against the people, many believe it is this administration that will redeem Nigeria? Laughable. The Onitsha/Mkpor massacre is a clear example of why Igbos should strive to be independent of Nigeria and become self governing. The Soldiers who shot unarmed IPOB youths were not Igbos. That's why they felt confortable to kill people. No Igbo Soldier would shoot into a crowd of unarmed Igbos, he wouldn't do this because his own loved one could be in that crowd. But a northern Soldier will do this. So where the so called 'one Nigeria'? It will be the proudest day of my life to see the day my fellow Igbos get their own independent nation (with or without the minorities).

God is on our side and the truth shall set us free. It was the biggest mistake in West Africa for Lord Lugard to have brought the Igbo/Yoruba/Hausa man together. But we shall eventually correct that mistake

jpphilips:
Is this supposed to be an arguement? which law legitimized other geo political zones?





Go and read decree 34 then come back and edit your post, I am allergic to ignorance.





What was the date of Ogundipe's retirement and what date was the counter coup? look around you dude, this discourse is way beyond your pay grade




What do you know about the Aburi conference and what date was decree 34? Toddler discussing history, abeg shift,





You can smell a child from a distance, next!!!!

There are no regions in Nigeria, at least no legitimate ones anyway. The so called SS,SE,SW are just mere geographical expressions. The constitution does not recognise any region or geopolitical Zone, it only recognises tribes, 774 local Govts, 36 states and Abuja. Therefore, SS,SE etc are all illegitimate.

You are telling me to go and read decree 34? You are the one who said this decree dissolved the regions. The federal Government announced the dissolution of the 4 regions on the 27th of May 1967. Ironsi was killed in July 1966. So how could Ironsi dissolve the regions when they were still in existence almost a year after he died? Or don't you know the meaning of 'to dissolve'?

The Aburi agreement was in January 1967, decree 34 was in 1966. The Aburi agreement nullified decree 34 and made Nigeria of confederation of 4 regions (the same regions you are claiming Ironsi dissolved). It may also interest you to know that contained in the Aburi agreement was a proviso that Gowon would not alter or change the confederation of Nigeria agreed in Aburi unless all 4 regional Governors have him the permission to do so. So this talk about decree 34 being the reason Gowon created States is complete nonsense.


You are just throwing about insults because you have no superior argument to present.

One last thing, you said that Boro is a hero of the Niger-Delta people? How? Is he hero of Anioma? Is he a Hero of Ibibios? Outside Ijawland, who recognises Boro? Laughable

There are so many errors in the OP's write up it such as:

If you are not happy with south-south as a legitimate geopolitical zone in Nigeria, You can as well argue that Abuja should not be the capital of Nigeria

South-South isn't a legitimate geopolitical zone and there is no Law in Nigeria recognising it as one. If anything, it is just geographical expression.

The OP also said that Ironsi used decree 34 to dissolve the regions? How could Ironsi dissolve the regions when all 4 regions were still in existence the day I he died? Did Ironsi come back from the dead to dissolve the regions?

The OP said that Ogundipe declined to take willingly when it is a known fact that the northern officers were not willingly to entertain the thought a non Notherner in power. Ogundipe was summarily retired, chased away to London where he was made Nigerian ambassador to pave way for a much junior Gowon to take over.

The OP said that Gowon created States based on Ironsi's decree 34. This pure ignorance at work. Decree 34 was completely removed at the Aburi convention and a system of confederation was agreed and signed. Gowon created states on his own volition and in direct contravention of the Aburi agreement.

The OP said that Ironsi did not court martial the January Coupist like Obasunjo did with coup plotters of Murtala. Both were not the same thing. The January Coupist did not conduct their coup against Ironsi unlike the one against Murtala. Another thing was that Ironsi was there for just 6 months. It took longer than that to court martial Diya and co

Nigeria was just a "British experiment" to see if certain ethnic nationalities could co-habit together. Even Lord Lugard who created Nigeria in 1914 gave it a shelf life of 100 years. We have had time to see that the union does not work. So the time for us all to return to the way we were before Lugard came has come.

Godgay:
three regions without Edo I thought Edo%delta were once bendel state in the old western region?

And before that, they were part of the western region

I think we should all remember that in the event of the break up of Nigeria, some kind of referendum will held so that everyone can choose where they are going. As an Igbo guy, the area I'm interested in is the SE/SS, the Igbos of the lower Benue and the Abi people of cross River who are said to be Igbo speaking. If the minorities vote not to go with the Igbos then the likely scenario is that 3 nations may emerge. In the west will be Ijaw/Edoid tribes (Itshekiris,Urohbos, Isoko, Bini). In the center will be Igbo/Igboids/Igbo speaking tribes (SE,Anioma,Rivers Igbo, Ikwerre, Igbanke, Abi and the Igbos of the lower Benue). In the East will be Efik/Ibibio/Ogoja.

On the whole, these three groups makes sense to me. Another thing that can happen is that these 3 groups may choose to remain together as a confederation of 3 regions. However, without Edo

SonofDevil:
Good but one of it's son nnamdi azikwe said his own igbo is from benin kingdom..
How come..

Why are you asking me? Do I look like Zik?

I also watched the video. It was a very painful day. Soldiers just came out to shoot unarmed people for nothing. However, the killings is a reminder that Nigeria is an instrument of oppression and that Biafrans are better off without it. How can a country claim to be great but it is still shooting unarmed people in this 21st century? Such a country is still backward and heading nowhere. One day, we shall get our freedom and the sun shall rise again.

RIP to all who lost their lives because of a British invented nonsense called "one Nigeria"

SonofDevil:
Every tribe has it's ancestral home and the ruler of the ancestral Land..
Who can answer this question..

The ancestral home of the Igbos is Nri Kingdom and the ruler is the "Eze- Nri"

War? Which war? There is no need for war. We should hold a referendum and go our different ways peacefully

logica:
So why are his people back in the North in the millions? SE isn't conducive enough eh?

What is SE? The Igbo man is everywhere in the millions not just the North.

I don't know why she should say something like that. The same Igbos have been fighting to get out of Nigeria for 50 years and everyone has been fighting to keep them in.

ozoigbondu:
Whether she was beheaded,burnt alive,crucified, beaten to death, strangled to death and what not is inconsequential to this discussion the important was that she was murdered because one dead arab guy and the Cursed animals in the north are fond of murdering people because of Islam a bad

The funny thing is that some people are actually surprised that Ojukwu tried to get his people away from the the "Northern marauders"

I hate Buhari a lot but I don't wish for his death. In the event of Buhari dying while in office, two things will happen. Osibanjo will be immediately sworn as President and he will appoint a Vice President from the core North. The second thing that will happen is that the northerners will find a way to blame Southern Nigeria for Buhari death and a riot will begin where southern Nigeria, particularly Igbos will be targeted to be killed. This might cause Northeners living in southern Nigeria to be targeted. Osibanjo will order the military in to control the situation which will bring about more deaths. In the mean time, Northern leaders will ask Osibanjo to step down to allow the Northern Vice-president to complete Buhari' 8 years. Naturally, Osibanjo will refuse with the full backing of the Yoruba nation. The Northerners will then try to make thing as difficult for Osibanjo as possible. In 2019, APC will then tear its self apart in deciding wether to field the incumbent Osibanjo or a Northerner. While all of this is happening the Niger Delta Avengers, IPOB,MASSOB, BIM will be piling the pressure for the dissolutio of Nigeria.

Enahi:
How will you care when you are a thief, a thief will always be a thief. Suddenly you don't care about the name but you want to claim it, that is why some of you are very backward.

Because of the respect I 've for my Anambra friends I will just ignore you.

Try to think with your head. The Asaba people speak Igbo as their ancestral language, their surnames are Igbo. If a person speaks Igbo as their native language and has an Igbo surname, what is that person?

Enahi:
I guess you don't know that Asagba is a bini name. Go and ask, you Igbos go about populating all states so you can claim territories,, a typical Anambra man doesn't even claim Agbor or Asagba like you dimwits.
I used Anambra as an example because they are the closest to Delta state, they don't see Agbor and Asagba as igbo territories.

I don't care if 'Asaba' is from China, it is just a title. What I care about is the name of the indigenous people and the language they speak

donphilopus:
When did Agbor, Asaba and Port harcourt become Igbo Cities?!

Let me put it this way. The king of Agbor, the Obi of Agbor is Ikechukwu

The king of Asaba, The Asagba of Asaba is Chike

The king of the Ikwere people, the "Eze Ikwere" is Eze Wagor.

What tribe in Nigeia do you think owns the name Ikechukwu,Chike and Wagor?

[b] INDIGENOUS People of Biafra (IPOB) has slammed the Inspector-Gen­eral of Police Mr. Solomon Arase over an order to his men to clampdown on its members and disarm pro-Biafra agita­tors in Delta and Anambra States.

The group had clashed with security agents on Monday during the 30th an­niversary of Biafra during which many lives were lost and scores injured.

In their reactions to the IGP order to deal decisively with IPOB members, spokespersons of the group, Dr. Clifford Iroanya and Mr. Emma Mmezu accused the police boss of alleging that IPOB members were armed and undertook premeditated attacks on police officers which they said was a lie.

According to Iroanya, “I hope Mr. Solomon Arase is aware that there is a case of genocide already hanging on his head at the International Criminal Court (ICC) in the Hague—Netherlands and it will worsen his case with this spewing of lies against IPOB.

“How can the Police disarm people who are not armed in the first place? By the way, did the police disarm Buhari’s men who go by the name Fulani herds­men? How come you never issued any order when Buhari’s armed gang called Fulani herdsmen massacred thousands of Biafrans in Agatu, Nimbo, Aba, and other areas in Biafraland?

“Can IGP provide any proof that Bi­afrans attacked police personnel and at what point in time did this so-called ‘re­surgence disorder’ come into existence? Probably he is trying to make the job easier for DSS who have been look­ing for the “smokine gun“ with which they will convince the trial judge that IPOB is a violent organization so that the judge will uphold charge #2 in the case against the leader of IPOB, Mazi Nnamdi Kanu.

“How many of Fulani herdsmen who massacred men, women, and children in Biafraland have the police arrested? So, are you always aware of the fact that the so-called Fulani herdsmen are moving freely with AK-47 assault rifles?”

The IBOP spokespersons further posed questions for the IGP to answer. “Why are you not arresting them or are they a special breed of Nigerians who are above the law? Why are you turn­ing around this case of murder against your policemen to make it look like it was the unarmed Biafrans that were do­ing the killings? It will interest Mr. Arase to know that the Head of Directorate of State of IPOB discussed the upcoming May 30th Heroes‘ Remembrance Day with the Commissioner of Police (CP) in Anambra, Hosea Karma, and then fol­lowed it up with a letter.

“It is a shame that Solomon Arase is displaying crass incompetence and ig­norance by lying that IPOB members were armed and that they attacked Nige­rian policemen. Perhaps , he would have saved himself this embarrassment by conducting thorough investigation and checking with the CP in Anambra state.

“Mr. IGP Arase, you are aware of the menace of Boko Haram, the serial kill­ings of Biafrans by Fulani herdsmen, and the extra-judicial killings of Biafrans by Nigerian security outfits, yet you have failed to issue a single order on them.

“But you issued tissues of lies which you called press statement even after your policemen and Nigerian soldiers killed unarmed Biafrans some of them in their sleep inside a church as they pre­pared to remember their fallen heroes and some of these fallen heroes were similarly killed by Buhari in 1968 at Ow­erri.

“The restoration of the nation of Biafra is an ideology and no human being born of a woman has ever defeated or exter­minated an ideology. For those of you who participate in the wanton killing of Biafrans, there shall be consequences and the boundary of these consequences is limitless and can include members of your family both immediate and extend­ed. No one takes a Biafran life and gets away scot-free”, they warned. [/b]

Just look at the amount of arms and ammunition Britain gave Nigeria for the war! We are not even talking about the one Russia have them. In addition, British warships blockaded Biafra. Nigeria never won the war, Britain won it for them.

Lezzlie:
But there are no true tribal lines in Nigeria.

How is that? I'm Igbo and I know where Igboland starts and ends

Phagyrhe:
Why is no one talking about the woman whose head was
allegedly dismembered from her body in Kano? Where are
the Igbos? Where are the IPOBS? Where are the
MASSOBS? Where are the Niger Delta Avengers? Bunch of
cowards!!!

You obviously don't listen to Radio Biafra. If you did, you would know that the issue of the beheaded woman is being addressed. Besides, IPOB and MASSOB have consistently warned all Igbos in the North to return home.

Lezzlie:
I like the fact that you described our type of government as unitary. Because the federalism we ascribe to it is nothing but a facade.

So you thing a true federalism is the way to go demarcated along religious lines?

Not along religious lines but along tribal affiliation

I pray that this restructuring happens. This will enable the "Igbo Region" to secede from Nigeria later.

Lezzlie:
Is Democracy really the most ideal political setting most befitting for Africa?

Four years of political tenure. Two years of which is set apart for politicking and plotting for the next general elections!

Is 4 years really enough for fundamental change in socio-economic and ethno-religious harmony?

I have made a casual look at individual Western societies and observed that the leading western countries were built on benevolent absolute rulership.

France, Germany, Great Britain and to the East Russia and China were all pioneered by an absolute monarchy with little or no recourse to be bound by council's decision.

What is France without a King Henry, or Britain without the crown, or German without Hitler (?) Or Russia without Lenin.

Mugabe stands as a possible pointer to the unsuitability of an absolute rulership in Africa, but do we have a democrat in Africa who has left any legacy as a recompense for the suitability of African democracy?

I don't think Democracy is the problem per se. I think that the system of Government has a lot to do with it. Taking Nigeria for example, we should not be practicing this unitary system. Geo-political zones or regions should be created and they should be they federating units. The faliure of many African countries to practice the right type of democracy and system of Government is the problem

As an Igbo man, I am tired of being with the Yoruba and Hausa man in one country. These two groups have been a pain in the a$$ for just too long. If I could, I would grab the minorities who comfortable with being with us Igbos and get out of Nigeria this very day. The Nigerian project has been an expensive waste of time.

krazykoons:
tell that to azikwe and his one Nigeria nationalist zombies or better still to your hero ojukwu would later contested under the aegis of a Fulani party after 3million of his people were used as shooting practice by Fulani soldiers.

We live in the present not the past. If you are concerned about the past, invent a time machine and go back to ask Zik, who is a hated figure in Igboland, why he believed in 'one Nigeria'. After that you can then go and ask Gowon why he came down to the East to kill 3 million people who were enjoying their freedom.

krazykoons:
watch ipob flat.heads refute this account as a creation of their enemy the Yorubas.
no responsible Nigerian wants to be associated with ipob touts,even their governors and politician are ashamed of them,all they have on their mind is the 2019 elections.

Another shameless conny looking for who he will do "one Nigeria" with.

Did anyone notice the coat of arms in the picture? The Horses are replaced with Camels. Any Igbo who is the North is there at their own risk