₦airaland Forum

hundredhunndred:
You are still not making sense. Yorubas dont care about you, we want you away from our region and reason we always pray you go, direct your anger to your leaders and leave us alone. We are not the one holding you.

Then you guys should stop attacking the notion of Biafra. Whenever Biafra is raised, it is Yorubas that come up with every excuse to denounce it. On Nairaland, on Facebook, social network sites, tv, everywhere. Have you ever seen an Igbo man attacking the idea of Oodua Republic? We continue our journey out of this mad house of Lord Lugard called Nigeria.

blackpanda:
You shld probably read up the meaning of federalism...it has nothing to do with regions or how the country is divided. Rather how it is run. Nigeria has come a long way from regional government. It will be almost impossible to go back!

You are right that federalism is not necessarily about regions. America has federalism but has no regions. However, Nigeria is not America. While America is a nation of immigrants, Nigeria is a nation of ethnic nationalities with different norms and customs. The states cannot be the federating unit because they only encourage 'divide and rule'. We must revert back to the regional form of Government. We Igbos will agree to be divided into 'states'. The southern minorities can have their own region(s) if that what the want. The federating units must be amongs the ethnic nationalities who share common norms and value system and not states created by military men.

hundredhunndred:
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Splashing spit everywhere like a rabid dog aint good for you. How are the Yorubas holding you from having biafra? Tell us and stop shedding tears.

Fashola deport you back, you ran to the UN and even threaten him. Why didnt you all vex and go back instead of ranting online. Soyinka, FFK, Fayose, Afenifere all supported your biafra, are they Ibos? Face your elders and stop blaming others for your misfortune, we careless about you cos you are even a burden to us.

You guys had better get used to the fact that Igbos will get their own country some day, and if it's giving you guys nightmares, we Igbo don't care.

bashydemy:
Please stop saying the oil belong to them how do you mean the oil belong to them? The oil belong to Nigeria since Niger Delta is part of Nigeria, before the discovery of oil what are we trading with? Cocoa, groundnut, yam etc and they use the same money generated from those stuffs to build their region or have you forgotten the formal capital of Nigeria is Calabar? At far as they are still in Nigeria the oil belong to nigeria and it just happen to be in that region.


About Biafra I said go and read about rebel and what they do to them, thank God you said Mandela was jail why? because he rebel against the then govt and he was in prison for about 27yrs before he was released. If the Biafra want to go, they don't need shouting up and down and clamoring for war, they can simply approach the UN with their demand instead chanting war every. Also how igbos are ready or support Biafra? Is t every igbos that support Kanu? Is yes then why are the contesting for a post in the Nigeria Government even Ojukwu the first Biafra leader later contest to be president in the same country he want to break out from isn't that a coward way? You have to stand for what you want if Kanu was over amnesty and some huge cash tomorrow with a position in the Govt he will shut his mouth or is it not a Igbo man that I know?

Again you said igbos ho against being with Nigeria even before independence I think you don't know what you are saying, who are the people tha fight for the independence? Is there no Igbo man among them? Who is the first President of Nigeria is he not an Igbo man? Who is the first Military ruler of Nigeria is he not an Igbo man? Please stop misleading the people who don't know about history please.

It is their land and Oil. It only becomes Nigerias Oil if the indigenous people who own their land gave up their sovereignty. Do you think Lugard sought the consent of those people before including them in Nigeria? How can you claim you have a country if nobody ever signed up for it? Nigeria is stealing the Oil wealth of these minorities because there was never an agreement by them to become Nigerians. If you want them to become Nigerians, offer them a referendum. Until then, 'Nigerians' are just trespassing on their lands. That's why they are fighting Nigeria. "Unity by force" will only bring armed conflict.

The same goes with Igbos. We never signed up to Nigeria either. We fought Lugard in the Ekumeku and Arochukwu wars. We wanted to be free. We fell to the superior firepower of Lord Lugard. But that does not make us Nigerians. Nigeria is a forced marriage of ethnic nationalities, it is no better than a prison. It is the right of the people to decide if they want to be part of Nigeria or not. If anyone wants to go, they should be allowed to go same way Britain gave Scotland the option of going. But if Nigeria insists on "we must remain one by force", how can you then expect peace or progress? At least now you know what the problem is.

hundredhunndred:
Can you tell us how Yoruba are doing one Nigeria with you. You are the one running to the SW daily. Dont you people have any shame?

Igbos are leaving for different parts of the world daily. Be it China, Russia, USA. I don't see what is special about SW. The difference between the SW and China, Russia, and USA and us is those places do not care if we get our independence or not. But as soon you guys hear the word Biafra, a hell breaks loose. Why? Cant you guys respect our right to be independent? You think as an Igbo man I would care if you guys wanted Oduduwa Republic tomorrow? Or is it because Lord Lugard came in 1914 to tell you people we are brothers? Laughable

SuperS1Panther:
You killed our leaders and you were trying to run away from justice.

We simply brought justice to you.

Some people are perennial traitors. Zik went into alliance with the North to become a tea-drinking ceremonial President, despite the fact that Awo offered him PM. He preferred heralding his people into slavery. Arthur Nzeribe was instrumental to the annulment of June 12 and Daniel Kanu conveyed a 5million man match for Abacha in the SE a Abuja, under Youth Earnestly Asked for Abacha umbrella.

Traitors you have always been and you will always be.

And yet today, you are the people fighting to do 'one Nigeria' with us

blackpanda:
I dont think u got my point. Federalism is good on paper, but impractical in reality (at least in the short run). Federalism is something we work towards not to wake up one morning and tell everybody there is no more allocation. Apart from the economic concerns, there is also the issue of security. Imagine if we were operating strict federalism now, NDA would have overpowered the state govt and taken over. Also remember that in federalism all the states are responsible for their own security. Now tell me, can delta state match the fire power of NDA? Federalism has extensive ramifications that we are not ready for

With federalism will come the dissolution of the states and the creation or regions. In the context of Nigeria, the states cannot be the federating units

bashydemy:
I disagree with you on so many point you raise up there, From the issue of NDA, what are they fighting for? Do you know what they are fighting for? When are we going to reason like a normal human in this country and Africa. In a sane country militants are enemies of the nation and you don't bargain with them cos they will still corm asking for more. Good Yaradua/GEJ give them amnesty and money in tunes of billion what did they do with the money? Government Tompolo become a billionaire overnight and what did they do to benefit the lives of their people? Asari Dokubo also become a billionaire through the same amnesty but what did he do to his land and people? Did they benefited anything from him? No instead he took all the money to invest in a foreign land, he build schools, football academy, university etc in Cotonou Republic of Benin why can he build those in his state and the people will benefit so much through employment and some people will have access to education.


About the issue of Kanu, did you see the video where he ask the igbos to donate money to buy guns and ammunition to fight Nigeria? Did you know the meaning of what he is doing? They call that rebel. And if you happen to be a president of a nation you will allow a rebel leader to walk free? Maybe you need to go read more about rebel and the punishment for them. Kanu is citizen of the United Kingdom and did UK do anything about his detention? Did his wife ever visit him since he has been in prison? If the court pass death sentence on Kanu tomorrow no world leader will blink an eye cos they know the gravity of his offense. Again about 70% of igbos if not more have put Biafra behind them and move on with their lives if not why are they contesting for a post in Nigeria, we have Igbo Senator, House of reps member, they are in the PMB cabinet etc why are they voting? If you don't want to be part of something they you don't support them in doing and they will take you more serious. Let just be frank with ourselves so many people mostly PDP want the Govt of PMB to fail and they are trying to do anything to achieve that. And also did you also read about what the Niger Delta Governors bargain with federal government so as to enable the NDA cease fire? They want all the corruption cases of there people to be dropped why?

Please think.

Your problem is that you don't seem to realise that we are not in the dark ages any more. This 21st century. It is the age of self determination and awareness. It is not your business what people in the Niger-Delta do with their resources. It is not for you to question what they have done with their Oil money. It is their land and Oil, it was their land and Oil long before Lugard came to create Nigeria. And you are asking what they are fighting for when their resources have been stolen in the name of 'one Nigeria'? You cant go to another man's house, take what belongs to them and when they protest, you ask 'what are they fighting for?'. That's an insult.

As for Nnamdi Kanu, he is right in what is he doing. A person has a right to fight for their freedom. Even Mandela requested for guns to fight white minority rule in his own homeland and was jailed for it. Remember, the Nigeria you are talking about is just the artificial creation of the White man and an instrument of bondage.Igbos did not become part of Nigeria willingly, infact we fought the British not to be part of Nigeria. We later again fought Nigeria not to be part of Nigeria. In 2014, the same Britain that created Nigeria granted Scotland a referendum. Britain did not say "we must be one Britain!" Or call the Scots rebels. So as long as Nigeria refuses to listen to the request of the indigenous people of the land such as Igbos who were forced into the British contraption called Nigeria against their will to granted their freedom, you always have people like Kanu requesting for guns to fight for freedom. The time has come for everyone to decide who they are through a referendum.

Karm16:
This is why we call Biafra a lost cause. Also why we calls Ibos the architect of their own problems. You want Biafra but you don't want to fight for it. You want Biafra but you act like you're too scared of leaving Nigeria.

We Yorubas want Biafra actualization too. We're sick of mosquitos in our environment.

Stop talking nonsense. We left before, you people came for us. If leave again, you will still come for us. Leaving is not the issue here, it never was. The issue here is recognising that if Igbos don't want to be with you, then you have no business being with them. You should encourage your Nigerian Government to support independence of Igbos so we can go back home. As for you Yorubas, every Igbo man knows that you people are fighting for 'one Nigeria' because you can't do without Igbos.

blackpanda:
You seem to be placing the blame on federal govt alone, but federalism is not the problem. Rather its greed, corruption and sheer madness. For example look at bayelsa, one of the smallest states and receives one of the highest allocation. But what do we have? Seriaki Dickson is owing workers more than 12months salary. No infrastructure, zero development, zero investments. Will u still blame federal govt?

The truth is that states can not cope with true federalism. Apart from lagos, no other state can exist without allocation. They dont have the capacity or will to create opportunity for themselves except fg intervenes

You are echoing the sentiments of the OP without knowing it. Don't you know that with true federalism/regionalism/confederation, their will be no 'seriake Dickson' or even 'Bayelsa state' to owe money to? When the regions take form, premiers will be directly in control of their resources and as such, will be held directly accountable to people. Not this stupid unitary system where everyone is waiting for money from Abuja and is accountable to nobody

dragonking2:
Despite having over 100 tribes in the Niger delta region we are still very United.. ..The question you should ask yourself, are all igbos ready to go to biafra.. .i have many Igbo friends who are not in support of biafra

You are still very much United? How? Is their even any umbrella organisation that covers all the tribes in this so called Niger-Delta? What connection has an Urohbo man and an Efik man? At least we all know that the purpose of Biafra is the freedom of Igbos, what is the purpose of Niger-Delta? You may have Igbo friends that don't support Biafra but they are most likely to be Igbos who were born or raised outside Igboland. Biafra is not about some Igbo guy in Kano, Biafra does not cover Kano. Biafra is about the indigenous Igbo who live in Igboland and the minorities who are comfortable being with Igbos. An Igbo who lives in Lagos, Kaduna or Sokoto can stay there all his life if he wants, that's his business. We are talking about Igbos in the east

tundexijim:
To me the igbos are the ones running around like headless chickens..if u are damn serious abt Biafra then start by vacating other man's land. ur rant on NL won't help...

Did the Scots vacate anywhere before they were granted a referendum by Britain? This is is the same Britain that made you a Nigerian.

When Igbos vacated Nigeria to go back home and face Biafra in 1967, you Nigerians came down to the East where they were enjoying their new found freedom to fight for 3 years to bring them back into 'one Nigeria'. Igbos are not vacating anywhere because we have done it before but you guys still would not leave us alone. We will go back home when Biafra is achieved in principle

The write up is an ignorant one. Taking the resumed militancy in the Niger-Delta. Why was it high during the regime of Obasunjo only to calm down during the Yaradua/GEJ era and resume again during Buhari's tenure? What is it that Obasunjo and Buhari have in common? I always knew that it would be a disaster to elect a former Military leader as president of Nigeria. They just can't reason as civilians. Yaradua initiated the amnesty program, gave the restive youths part of the oil money that accrued from their lands. GEJ followed the route. But Buhari being the dictator he is came in and said he will "crush" them. What did people expect will happen? The youths will fold their arms while Nigeria takes their resources and everyone will be singing the tune of 'one Nigeria'? The Niger-Delta militancy is a direct result of Buhari's very bad leadership qualities.

Then we come to Biafra. The issue of Biafra blew up as a result of the arrest of Nnamdi Kanu. What did Kanu do? He operates a London based radio station where he expresses his constitutional right to freedom of expression and is seeking the freedom of his people which enshrined in UN charter on sovereignty? Buhari being the very bad leader he is who does not tolerate dissent had him clamped in jail, denied him bail on 3 occasions and went on national TV to support the desecration of the constitution through bail denial. To make matters worse, when IPOB protested, the Nigerian security forces gunned them down and Buhari again went on Aljazeera to support the killings. Buhari thinks that all problems are solved by using force of arms and that is why we have the problems we have today. Buhari is just a disaster of a leader and his tenure is likely to be filled with unrest, militancy, economic stagnation and suffering

ridwanayo:
why not go and move delta to ur region nd also move rivers nd benue,if nigeria divide its either all the igbo's in those region move to s.east cause nobody would be seceding any land to you,are there no yoruba's in togo,benin republic nd cuba,nd are there no hausa nd mail,chad nd sudan,those igbo's in other region would live like dat,that's why we have to divide peacefully nt not by war some people are calling for

That's why you should support the referendum that IPOB wants. It's the peaceful way of settling everything

All hail 'one Nigeria'!

YorubaHighness:
1. 99.9% of Ibo leaders do not support Biafra

2. More than 80% of Ibo commentators on NL live in Yorubaland.

3. 90% of Ibo traders do not invest in Iboland

4. Ibos would rather live amongst Yorubas and Hausa-Fulanis


Apart from making noise online, how have Ibos shown us that they want Biafra?

I expect y'all to ignore these 4 key points and start shouting "Yoruba Yoruba" like manic patients.

Yorubas are becoming a national embarassment. How is it that a people blessed with so much are still running around like headless chickens looking for who to do "one Nigeria" with? They just can understand the concept of self determination and why Igbos have it and they don't.

dragonking2:
Dont worry, the delta igbos will pack and join you people in biafra. ...Niger delta will be a republic. ....

The Niger-Delta can be a republic if they want. Wether the more than 30 tribes in this so called Niger Delta will actually agree to come together to form a country is another issue, but that's their business. As long as all Igbos get out of Nigeria is what is important to me.

sarrki:
With all our prayer to heal our president from what ever sickness diagonised i see rochas stepping in as the vp

Not possible. The president and the vice always come from either the North or South. If anything happens to Buhari, Osibanjo will be sworn in but will have to appoint a Vice President from the North

He built the house when he was serving under Ukpabi Asika? That means he probably built it in the 70's. I wonder why EFCC would seal of a house built in the 70's?

Omololu007:
your response made no sense to me..why was ojuiku against adaka boro when he declared a republic? Why didnt he support him?

I don't know 'Ojuiku' is. We are are talking about different people

Omololu007:
why did ojuiku and ironsi not let the people of the niger delta have their country,when adaka boro secced from Nigeria

What they never told you is that when Adaka Boro declared his so called "Niger-Delta Republic", he only meant his Ijaw people. Besides, Ironsi and Ojukwu still believed in "one Nigeria" at the time. But when 50,000 Easterners were massacred including Ironsi, Ojukwu knew it was time to pull his people out of the madness called Nigeria.

ridwanayo:
why not go and move delta to ur region nd also move rivers nd benue,if nigeria divide its either all the igbo's in those region move to s.east cause nobody would be seceding any land to you,are there no yoruba's in togo,benin republic nd cuba,nd are there no hausa nd mail,chad nd sudan,those igbo's in other region would live like dat,that's why we have to divide peacefully nt not by war some people are calling for

What are you talking about? I'm talking Nigeria you are talking Togo and Benin. There are no regions. There are only 36 states in law. The contitution does not recognise anything called "regions". Igbos have been living on their lands long before there was anything called Nigeria. It is Nigeria that carved Igbos into what the called "Delta" "Rivers" "Benue". This is the same way Lord Lugard carved Igboland into Nigeria. Nobody is talking about war, what we want is a referendum so that those who want to go can go peacefully

ridwanayo:
must everything be about u igbo's what do u guys even want,there are yoruba's in togo,benin republic,cuba nd ghana they have community there they don't Identify with nigeria but with there tribe yoruba,we also have fulani's in mali,sudan,niger nd chad the only identify with fulani's nt nigeria.those igbo's in river,delta nd benue are only settlers nd d land doesn't belong to them,so if nigeria split no land of any region would secede to biafra,nd if those settlers wanna identify with biafra they should move to the s.east.u guys should start proving people wrong nd stop ur land grabbing attitude

Of course it has to be Igbo! I'm Igbo and Im talking about my tribe. Is it your tribe I should be talking about? What the Igbos want? Every Nigerian knows what the Igbos want. The Igbos want to be 'self governing', they want to administer them selves, they want their sovereignty and their own country. Who told you that the Igbos in the Delta, Rivers and Benue are settlers? How can they be settlers on the lands they have been living for hundreds if not thousands of years before there was anything called Nigeria? Don't make me laugh

Obiano is an iidiot. If someone like Fayose can condemn the shooting of unarmed Biafran supporters but Governor Obiano could not. He did not even order an investigation into what happened. All of this so that he can be in Buhari's good books.

ridwanayo:
I see american trying to push for the fufilment of there last year prophesy that nigeria would split.america hate to be wrong.well I support the division of nigeria

SW-oduduwa
SE-biafra
SS-niger/delta
NC-niger middle belt
NW nd NE-arewa

Nigeria cannot be divided along those lines without a referendum. Igbos of the lower Benue fall into the NC, Delta and Rivers Igbos fall into the SS. Those elements may prefare to go with their fellow Igbos into Biafra.

Omololu007:
I pray it happen soon,,,if that's what the people of the south south and south east want......but when it happen,every ibo must be ready to leave the south west with their property and business

You guys keep saying this but also forget that Igbo left in 1967 to face Biafra. It was you Nigerians that came to the east to fight for 3 years to bring the Igbo man back into Nigeria.


As much as I don't mind the splitting up into as many pieces as possible, I think that IPOB/MASSOB should have defined what these '6 countries' are. In the event that Igbos alone form their own country, we should be careful not to leave behind the Delta-Igbos, Rivers Igbos and the Igbos of the lower Benue. So it is very necessary that a referendum must be held so that everyone can vote where they want to belong

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It is no longer news that the Nigerian Army routinely shoot unarmed Biafran protesters even though the constitution guarateed us all freedom of movement and expression. Below are pictures of the recent 30th of May killings by the Nigerian Army in Onitsha of people who gathered to commemorate Biafran remembrance day. The Nigerian Army can be clearly see in some of the picture with their "victims"

Inter soceity, a leading human rights group, has uncovered the location of mass graves and shocking details of the genocide committed against Igbos by the Nigerian army under the command of General Muhammadu Buhari on Biafra Remembrance Day, Monday, May 30, 2016.

The 1999 Constitution; which firmly guarantees democratic free speeches and freedoms of peaceful and lawful movement and assembly. Indigenous and self determination rights and their campaigns are also guaranteed by the African Charter on Human & Peoples Rights of AU of 1981 as well as the UN Universal Rights Declaration of 1948 and International Covenants on Civil & Political Rights and the Economic, Social and Cultural Rights of 1976; provided they are nonviolent and outside the purview of armed struggle and where armed struggle is resorted to, it is strictly guided by the Geneva Conventions of 1949, which include the Doctrines of Rules of Engagement, Use of Force and Self Defense.


A Rescued Citizen’s Corroboration: Mr. Henry Ibebuike Enekwe is an electrical engineer and 32 years old. He was declared missing in our Coalition (Southeast Based Coalition of Human Rights Organizations) public statement of 3rd of June 2016 after his abduction by soldiers of the Onitsha Military Cantonment in the morning of 30th of May 2016 on his way to Enugu, from his Eke-Nkpor base. Engineer Henry was rushing to Enugu to seal a house wiring contract with a Lagos based businessman. Happily, Engineer Henry Enekwe regained his freedom in the evening of Saturday, 4th of June 2016, following our advocacy intervention and a distress call by the Ebonyi State Directorate of DSS to its Anambra State counterpart, which led to his rescue from five days captivity and torture in the hands of his soldiers’ captors.


Rescued Citizen’s Account: Narrating his ordeal in the hands of his captor-soldiers, Engineer Henry Enekwe told Intersociety that he regretted bringing his young son into this country called “Nigeria” where beasts are perpetually in charge of the affairs of Nigerian people. That the greatest shock of his life was his encounter with soldiers on 30th of May 2016 in front of the street leading to St Edmunds Catholic, Nkpor-Agu. He said before his very eyes, three innocent citizens going home from an early morning church service at St Edmunds Catholic were shot and killed by soldiers.

That the soldiers, having arrested him and pushed him into their military truck, corked their guns and pointed them at the worshippers coming from the Church and violently shouted at them, forcing three of them to run for safety out of fear and panic, only for the soldiers to open fire on them, killing them instantly. That the soldiers were of Hausa-Fulani tribe and that they recovered the corpses and dumped them in their van and zoomed off to the Onitsha Military Barracks, in company of himself and others abducted alive. That he sat beside the dead corpses and the soldiers kept mocking them and their tribe.

That when they got to the Barracks, he saw a heap of dead bodies and those who were deadly wounded were dumped on top of dead ones. That the soldiers moved him, alongside others to open cells from where he saw more dead bodies being brought in and dumped. That later in the evening, the corpses were moved in the direction of a certain nursery and primary school inside the Barracks, from where they were never sighted again till the cell guards violently mentioned to them that they had been given mass burial.

That in the early hours of Friday 3rd of June 2016, around 1.30am, soldiers stormed their cells and took away 27 of his fellow captives and six deadly wounded citizens to unknown destinations. That the abducted citizens were never returned to the Barracks till Saturday evening, 4th of June 2016, when he regained his freedom. That while in the captivity of the soldiers of the Onitsha Military Cantonment, himself and others were tortured every morning and soldiers called it “morning tea”; whereby each of them was laid on a bench chair, flogged with “koboko”, with sachet water poured on the parts of their bodies where flogging or torture was being inflicted. That many innocent citizens were still being held in the Barracks amidst torture as at the time he regained his freedom. That torture was a routine and the wounded were left unattended to and that extra judicial killing of some captives including those with terminal gunshot wounds may most likely have taken place.

Why promote unity that has never existed? I support promoting peace but I do not support a non existent "one Nigeria".

"If I don't refun prom Landan, make shua Nnamdi Kanu stays in Kuje frison porever"