Culture › Re: Our Stolen Cultural Artficts From Ancient Kingdoms Of Oyo, Bini, Ife Empires . by AutomaticMotors: 10:06am On Oct 22, 2022 |
Naijap99us: Did you even watch the video footage that wasn't originated by me before running your mouth.
Ife was a kingdom of its own Dumbo.
I wish you could hold your politicians accountable with that much energy. Ife was never a kingdom ife was an hamlet and nothing more you are the one who looks like a dumbo lol, I can never watch your cut and paste 2mb video because you clearly don't know history better go find work because hunger go finish you |
Culture › Re: Shameless Yoruba Obas!! by AutomaticMotors: 2:07pm On Oct 21, 2022 |
There is truth here |
Culture › Re: Highlighting The Ethno-linguistic Groups that Make Up Akoko Ondo by AutomaticMotors: 1:43pm On Oct 21, 2022 |
KingOvoramwen1: How Emir Of Ilorin, Kwara Governor And Saraki Have Oppressed Oba Of Jebba Since 2003
He may be a monarch, but Alhaji Abdulkabir Alabi Adebara, the Oba of Jebba in Moro Local Government Area of Kwara State, is treated with contempt by the Emir of Ilorin, Alhaji Ibrahim Kolapo Sulu-Gambari. BY SAHARAREPORTERS, NEW YORKJUL 20, 2016
He may be a monarch, but Alhaji Abdulkabir Alabi Adebara, the Oba of Jebba in Moro Local Government Area of Kwara State, is treated with contempt by the Emir of Ilorin, Alhaji Ibrahim Kolapo Sulu-Gambari.
The Emir, actively abetted by the state government of Governor Abdulfattah Ahmed and his godfather, Bukola Saraki, the Nigerian Senate President, has refused to recognise Adebara as the Oba of Jebba. And for 11 years, beginning from the time Saraki became governor, the state government did not pay Adebara his entitlements. The Emir continues to claim that Jebba is under the Ilorin Emirate despite a 1997 court ruling (in suit KWS/231/89) stating otherwise.
In October 2014, the Afenifere Renewal Group (ARG), a Yoruba socio-cultural group, drew attention to the ill-treatment of Adebara, notably marked by the state government's studious refusal to recognise him a third class traditional ruler even after two courts had affirmed his status.
“Six monarchs from Asa, Moro and Ilorin East Local Government Areas – Ohoro of Shao, Oba of Jebba, Alapado of Apado, Baale of Afon, Dado of Okeso, and Magaji Aare of Ilorin – submitted memoranda for the exercise, but none was deemed qualified even though they all met the criteria set out in the advertisement,” the organisation said.
At the Jebba Muslim praying ground on July 6, 2016, Oba Adebara was attacked after the Eid-el-Fitr prayers in a disturbance that resulted in the death of three persons and injuries to 12 others. The attack was reportedly sponsored by members of Okedare family, who want one of them to be Oba of the town. Among the Okedares, who are loyal to the state government and the Emir of Ilorin, are Matthew Okedare, Deputy Speaker of the Kwara State House of Assembly; Simon Okedare, Clerk of the Assembly; and Kayode Okedare, the Principal of Government Secondary School, Jebba.
Adebara's unfortunate situation persists despite the fact that suits filed by the state government in various courts against his claim to the Jebba stool have been decided in his favor.
Adebara became the Oba of Jebba in 2003 and was given a letter of appointment, which categorised him as a "Third Class" traditional ruler, by Governor Alhaji Mohammed Lawal (now late), whose tenure as governor was about ending and was later succeeded by Saraki.
Adebara's ordeal began a few months into Saraki's first term of office when the state government ordered that he should no longer be paid his entitlements because Jebba was yet to have a traditional ruler.
He was subsequently arrested and detained at Okekura Prison for 19 days on criminal charges. He was later released on bail.
Shortly after, the state government dragged Adebara before a Chief Magistrate's Court, alleging that he was parading himself illegally as Oba in violation of both the state and local government orders as well as well as giving evidence in a suit before a High Court as the traditional ruler of Jebba when he knew that his action contravened the "Chiefs Appointment Deposition Law and the Penal Code." Adebara, a retired civil servant, pleaded not guilty to the charges, affirming in his examination-in-chief that, "I am presently the Oba of Jebba and I became monarch since May 16th 2003, having succeeded the deceased Oba Ahmadu Adebara."
Adebara's counsel, Joseph Bamigboye, successfully contested the jurisdiction of the magistrate's court to entertain the matter, as it was criminal in nature.
The matter (Suit No. KWS/2c/2006, The State Vs Alhaji AbdulKadir) then moved to the state High Court, where, SaharaReporters learnt, two judges were forced to withdraw from the case on account of pressure from the Emir of Ilorin, supported by the state government.
Before the third judge, Justice Hannah Ajayi, the state counsel, Mrs. FB Ishola, called four witnesses, while Adebara called two. Ishola told the court that all the prosecution required was to prove that Adebara paraded himself as a monarch in violation of government order. She averred that Adebara kept on parading himself as such despite a letter from the Ministry of Local Government and Chieftaincy Affairs, dated November 3, 2003, instructing him to stop doing so and revert to the status quo. She further submitted that Adebara failed to prove that he was appointed by kingmakers, saying the town had no kingmakers as claimed by the four prosecution witnesses.
Ishola maintained that Adebara's refusal to revert to the status quo made him criminally liable for advertising himself as what he is not. Ishola similarly argued that the prosecution had successfully established a case of an "illegal parade" as a monarch against Adebara and urged the court convict him as charged.
In Adebara's defence, his counsel submitted that the letter the Ministry of Local Government and Chieftaincy Affairs claimed to have written was not addressed to any person or stool in particularly, arguing that its content was imprecise.
For the prosecution to show that the letter was addressed to Adebara, the counsel added, it must prove, among other things, that his appointment as Oba of Jebba in 2003 did not comply with the Chiefs Appointment and Deposition Law of 1963. He further submitted that no evidence had been tendered before the court showing the provision of the Chiefs Appointment and Deposition Law of 1963 that was breached by Adebara's traditional and governmental appointment. The counsel also told the court that the prosecution failed to adduce any evidence to suggest that Adebara did not take an oath of office upon his appointment as is required by law. Adebara's lawyer then proceeded to punch holes in the prosecution's claim that the Oba's appointment provoked huge protests in the town, arguing that the Jebba community, including 33 surrounding villages under it, expressed massive support for the appointment. "There was no challenge to the appointment of the accused within the ruling house and there was no acknowledged petition to the Governor over the appointment and that there was no lawsuit against the appointment," said Bamgboye.
The counsel further argued that government's appointment and grading under the Chiefs Appointment and Deposition Law were strictly for the government recognition of the appointment, adding that "the purported government withdrawal of appointment and grading will only withdraw the recognition under the referred law, but cannot withdraw the traditional appointment.
"Where an Oba is not appointed by the government and is not graded, he is still an Oba within the Interpretation Act once he is accepted by his people and the kingmakers.
"Even where his appointment by government and grading are subsequently withdrawn, he remains an Oba under the Interpretation Act, but not under the Chiefs Appointment and Deposition Law.
"In effect, the purported letter, including the two, which emanated from the local government, do not and cannot act as instruments of deposition. The Oba still remains an Oba by virtue of his traditional appointment and is competent to parade himself as such," Adebara's lawyer told the court.
In her judgment, delivered in January 2014, Justice Ajayi said there were contradictions in the testimonies of the four prosecution witnesses, while those given by defence witnesses were found to have been consistent.
The judge decided that the prosecution had failed to prove that Adebara's appointment in 2003 contravened the Chiefs Appointment and Deposition Law of 1963. She subsequently pronounced a no-guilty verdict on Adebara, subsequently discharging and acquitting him of the two-count criminal charge and affirming his status as the legitimate traditional ruler of Jebba with third class status.
The court also ordered the state government to pay all the arrears of Adebara's entitlements for 11 years, which it has failed to comply with.
Dissatisfied, the state government headed to the Federal Appeal, which upheld the judgment of the lower court.
On Monday July 18 2016, the Kwara State Governor announced the elevation of a number of chiefs to "First Class" traditional rulers, one of those elevated includes the Olupako of Share who is Oba of the Governor's hometown. The Olupako of Share and the Oba of Jebba were both recognised as Third Class in 1983. The Governor still won't recognize and accord Oba Adebare of Jebba his entitlements and court ordered status.
Oya cry na hahaha  |
Culture › Re: Our Stolen Cultural Artficts From Ancient Kingdoms Of Oyo, Bini, Ife Empires . by AutomaticMotors: 5:40am On Oct 19, 2022 |
Ife empire?  nothing I won't see online |
Culture › Re: Ika People by AutomaticMotors: 5:38am On Oct 19, 2022 |
Everything Ehikwe posted on this thread are facts!!!
100% |
Culture › Re: Are Haitian Descendants Of The Igbos? by AutomaticMotors: 11:44am On Oct 18, 2022 |
Haitains have more DAHOMEY ancestry this is not even a debate it's a well known fact proven by scholars |
Culture › Re: Praise Names Of Omo N'oba N'edo by AutomaticMotors: 2:07pm On Oct 17, 2022 |
macof: Benin City is a reserve of rich traditions and high Abieyuwa N'Ovbi Odua N'uhe[/b] The son of the wealthy Odua of Uhe(Ife).
Ovbi' Ada, Ovbi' Eben The child of the owner of the Ada = scimitar and Eben = royal sword, Edo symbol of sovereignty.
Ovbi'Ekenekene ma deyo The son of beauty that never fades.
Ovbi'Ekuaho N'Olo, Ovbi'Ekuabo N'Olo The son of the rocky arm, the brave and powerful
Ovbie Ikpinhianbo kpuru no Gb'oduma The son of the short fingered man that was still able to kill a lion
Nohien utete no gh'ughe s'omwan The king on a hill, who sees more than everybody
Ovbi'Oghonwan nei bun aro The son of the fearless, who looks without twinkling his eyes
Ovbi'ode, ode n'ohan ren mu' ete The son of the warrior whose enemies got frightened at the announcement of the approach
Uku Akpolokpolo The mighty that rules
Ovbi' Adolo no dolo uwa dolo utomwen/b] The son of the wise judge and peace maker who combined wisdom and wealth with long life [b] Ovbi' oven owie no gbaisi The son of the morning sun that covers everywhere
Ovbi' Akpogunla, ogie no y'igho b'owa The child of the womb of Akpogunla - the warrior who fought big wars and built a house of cowries
Oba n'osa A king that is god
Ovbi' otolo n'olomi; Ologberonmwon nei rie iruen, ebo, ayemwinre eminiminimini The son of the water controller, the son of beauty itself, the starter of things and the person whose reign saw people with many tongues
These appellation are in cognissance of the greatness of the Omo n'oba ne edo, the Oba of Benin. Delusion  |
Culture › Re: How Do U Greet Good Morning In Ur Language by AutomaticMotors: 1:54pm On Oct 17, 2022 |
RedboneSmith: What is this?
An Ikwerre man is telling you how they say good morning in his place, and you're bringing your own village (mis)interpretation into it. Does his people have to use the same expressions your people use in greeting?  |
Politics › Re: Omah Lay's Grand Father (the Musical Legend Of His Time) by AutomaticMotors: 12:52am On Oct 10, 2022 |
Nigeriabiafra80: Am a full igbo man from ogidi In anambra state I don’t claim Anambra or ogidi as a tribe Am igbo Werey even your Onitsha Anambra was established by Benin Kingdom |
Culture › Re: Stop Promoting Igbo Culture Says Dein Of Agbor by AutomaticMotors: 8:39am On Oct 06, 2022 |
samuk: The Igbo gave Nigeria the current unitary system of governance we are practicing, we are all going to stay and enjoy it together. If you don't like it, you can try to leave and we can still remember how that ended before. Wotowoto  |
Celebrities › Re: Flavour And Anna At His Father's Birthday Celebration by AutomaticMotors: 11:35pm On Oct 03, 2022 |
Charmerbeautylooks: Flavour 's dad will nt wish his son to marry Sandra, she n her mum has a questionable character, Sandra is like flavour mama. Chai I wish Anna n flavour well. Anna is calm, homely n reserved nt like Sandra who slept wit everybdy, Tony nkiruka, orange drug boss,mikel m n others! Wow and you talk this thing over 6yrs ago! Bella went to bigbrother house to prove your point |
Culture › Re: Oba Of Benin, Others Participate At Berlin Humboldt Forum Arts Exhibition In Ger by AutomaticMotors: 4:25pm On Sep 29, 2022 |
gregyboy: Urhobo people in the begin were independent clan from edo until edo brought her under their control and influence
Urhobo people has high percentage of Edo bloods in them because the edos did a mass migration into their tribe
In modern times the words to use to describe Urhobo people are offshoot of Edo
Forget who urhobo was before benin occupation nobody see that anymore
Urhobo people has edo old words as vocabulary that old benin in benin use interchangeably
Kill that history of ogiso and oduduwa from your brain that story was formed to untie edo people as yorubas during indirect rule system
It's been recircle today for the purpose of tribal bashing What are you even saying ? |
Culture › Re: Moment Sango Arrived Ooni's Palace, Oloni Festival (Video) by AutomaticMotors: 10:28pm On Sep 28, 2022 |
bennybuhari: And the Ooni is still using generator in his palace. Sango that can't provide electricity, that one na Sango?  |
Culture › Re: 10 Princes Shortlisted For Vacant Alaafin Stool by AutomaticMotors: 10:13pm On Sep 28, 2022 |
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Culture › Re: Oba Of Benin, Others Participate At Berlin Humboldt Forum Arts Exhibition In Ger by AutomaticMotors: 1:58pm On Sep 28, 2022 |
SeamT: You are a comedian.. the only thing linking urhobo and Edo is the edoid language. And theirs no proof that it was adopted from Benin. It could be the other way round
This superiority complex mentality is the reason we broke out of the then bendel state. You are the comedian here! This mentality of yours is why urhobo are presently playing 3rd fiddle in a state that was meant to be yours! God bye! Urhobo is Edo! And there is nothing you can do about this now or the future! |
Culture › Re: Oba Of Benin, Others Participate At Berlin Humboldt Forum Arts Exhibition In Ger by AutomaticMotors: 9:07am On Sep 28, 2022 |
SeamT: Show me evidence then that suggests that the urhobo are offspring of Edo tribe. Guy!! Wtf everything from your language down to traditions/norms/culture/dressing is EDO!! I got nothing to prove to you bro!!!! And this is by no means belittling Urhobo, you all are family but you are from Benin and all your kings are Benin princes installed as Enogies from the palace all this are facts!! Both online and offline |
Culture › Re: Oba Of Benin, Others Participate At Berlin Humboldt Forum Arts Exhibition In Ger by AutomaticMotors: 9:02am On Sep 28, 2022 |
SeamT: You have your history. We have ours. And according to our folktales. Urhobo is as old as Edo it self. What did you just post  screenshot a word doc from your laptop?  Give it a rest !! Urhobo is an Edo clan! You have no legit documents to prove your wishfull tales!! Didn't you read the part I said Urhobo kings are Enogies? Do you even know what Enogies means?  |
Culture › Re: Itsekiri Names And Their Meaning by AutomaticMotors: 7:35am On Sep 28, 2022 |
Efewestern: Lost in the sense that most sub-Edoid groups now substitute Okoro with other words. Example, we now make use of Oshare. Okoro as a word is fast loosing its place in our lexicon.
Even the far end of Eastern Yoruba territory make use of Okoro. If Okoro wasn't of Edo origin, how did Ikale/ilaje and Itsekiri who had no single contact with Igbo got use of the word? Don't want to sound too pro-Edo but some conc Yoruba words such as Ode- Big/mighty , Oba - King, Olori - Head, might be of Edo origin. 100% Facts!! |
Culture › Re: Itsekiri Names And Their Meaning by AutomaticMotors: 7:30am On Sep 28, 2022 |
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Culture › Re: Itsekiri Names And Their Meaning by AutomaticMotors: 7:15am On Sep 28, 2022 |
Dartilo: How does this prove anything  |
Culture › Re: Ibibios May Be The 4th Largest Ethnic Group In Nigeria by AutomaticMotors: 6:40am On Sep 28, 2022 |
Eastlink: Alegi Olotu with your several Nairaland moniker which includes Blacksaint come and see the title of the Okrika group. Did you see any attachee by force Okrika-Ijaws you IYC Bayelsa clowns like to flaunt.
Okrika people are using their platform to discuss issues that affect them, such as their preferred Okrika/Ogu-Bolo state for themselves, the Toboniju/Koniju problem, chieftaincy issues, the problem of unemployment, oil spill, cultism and insecurity.
Only you Ijaw land-grabbing clowns will come from nowhere to talk about IYC politics and other Okrika-Ijaw nonsense all to claim Port-Harcourt that has no boundary with Bayelsa.
Wakrike Nation is the title of the group. Not Okrika-Ijaw that you unity beggars are propagating. This was why they warned you Ijaw clowns to mind your business and stop dragging them into issues they are not interested in. Okrika people are talking about how to win Governorship election and sell a formidable candidate to their upland comrades and not street talks of Izon ogogoro drinkers. Eastlink: No na Izon keme. Izon-ibe occupied states for mouth. How are you different from IPOB who allocate fake figures to themselves.
Na only online we dey see this fraudulent Izon population. Lol  UGBE634: Ijaws are not even up to one percent in Edo state. The whole of Etsako is about 12percent and they have three local government. The whole of akoko Edo is about 5% and they have a full local government to themselves, The Igbankes alone is more populated than the sparsely populated Ijaw communities in Edo state and they have two wards, E be like you think say Edo end for gele-gele and Ikhoro. Imo 5?Abia5% you are a clown. In Delta state The Urhobos are the largest with about 35 percent, Then the Aniomas(Ukwuanis,Aniocha, Oshimili, Ika)which cannot be less than 30% of the population of Delta state with nine local government areas in Delta north. That is about 65 %, the Isokos and the Itsekiris can't be less than ten percent each. You at most will have 15 percent in Delta state. In Bayelsa, your fraud of a state, We know you wont pass for a senatorial district in a state like Edo state. Edo central (Esanland) the least populated senatorial district in Edo state will match Bayelsa toe to toe in population. Your claim of the fourth largest group will always fall like the pack of card when carefully scrutinized. Kanuri, Tiv, Fulani, Ibibio are all bigger groups when compared to the Ijaws. Ijaw at best will make a an 8 position, the lie that came after Jonathan became president cannot stand in the face of men that can carefully analyze issues the truth must be told to your face whether you like it or not. How can you be 60% of rivers state when there is Ogoni and Ikwerre. And both are both large groups with nothing less than than 1.5 million each and a heavy migrant population in Rivers state UGBE634: See you don't hide population If you were up to as much as even 2% let alone 5%percent or more you will know you will know .The Owans are with two local government areas and they are about seven percent of Edo state numerically. We know the group that matters much and matters little in Edo state and you know you are inconsequential numerically. sometimes I forget you are in Edo state. One can stay four years in Edo state and not meet an Edo Ijaw. Stop calling it town! is it those your five hundred persons town which they sometimes show on Itv back then. call it Hamlet bikonu  |
Culture › Re: Ibibios May Be The 4th Largest Ethnic Group In Nigeria by AutomaticMotors: 6:21am On Sep 28, 2022 |
Eastlink: Below is the rebuttal by Okrika people who blasted you before you stylishly used your 2nd fake account (Theist Humanist) to beg for brotherhood. Hope you can see where the Azipabu elderly man told you that Ijaw is not a tribe. And you could also see where Okrika themselves questioned what Ijaw clowns were doing in their group.   |
Culture › Re: Ibibios May Be The 4th Largest Ethnic Group In Nigeria by AutomaticMotors: 6:09am On Sep 28, 2022 |
UGBE634: Ijaws are not seven state, Ijaws are so inconsequential in Edo state numerically, Even in Delta state, the largest group there are the Urhobos, then the Ukwuanis before ijos and others. It is not by having one, two sparsely populated communities in every state and saying you are in Every state in the south south. What ward do you control, what local government do you control? what senatorial do you control convincingly, Even Delta south, you share with the Itsekiris and Isokos . The Ijaws would stagger with seven million in total population, there is no way you can be more than Ibibios in population not now not ever Wow! Such Brutality  |
Culture › Re: Ibibios May Be The 4th Largest Ethnic Group In Nigeria by AutomaticMotors: 6:04am On Sep 28, 2022 |
richmond500: na u deh spoil ur day thinking Ijaw is 20m and takes 60% of Rivers population  |
Culture › Re: The Oldest Kingdoms In Nigeria by AutomaticMotors: 5:47am On Sep 28, 2022 |
Benin did not request any retar.ded prince from Ife!!! |
Culture › Re: Yoruba Does Not Exist In Ifa ― Elebuibon by AutomaticMotors: 5:43am On Sep 28, 2022 |
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Culture › Re: Oba Of Benin, Others Participate At Berlin Humboldt Forum Arts Exhibition In Ger by AutomaticMotors: 12:55am On Sep 28, 2022 |
gregyboy: Haha prove this or I will take you as joke l
Brother state is that what you guys tell yourself now not to feel inferior beside the bini people cheap lies don't help..
The urhobos are not brother state to edo
The urhobos are made of native urhobos people called the urhobo indigenes and heavy flow of benin people throughout the kingdom
So urhobo is an offshoot of edo Urhobo is an Edo clan! Same with all tribes in Delta state including the ones in Delta North igbos are trying to claim |
Business › Re: How To Open A Stripe Account In Nigeria by AutomaticMotors: 12:52am On Sep 28, 2022 |
SeamT: Hello
Please I need information on how to open and validate stripe account here in Nigeria. It seems like, a valid ID is required for validation.
Also if there are any other alternatives, that provide same service in accepting card payment online, world wide please state below.
Thank you Old thread but for reference sake Flutterwave Paystack |
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Culture › Re: Oba Of Benin, Others Participate At Berlin Humboldt Forum Arts Exhibition In Ger by AutomaticMotors: 12:20am On Sep 28, 2022 |
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Culture › Re: Oba Of Benin, Others Participate At Berlin Humboldt Forum Arts Exhibition In Ger by AutomaticMotors: 12:18am On Sep 28, 2022 |
SeamT: The ughelli kingdom is believed to be as old as Benin it self. Predating the oba’s dynasty. The term “from” is wrong. But same group of people back then. It is "Believed"!! Lol stop spinning drunken fairy tales nothing urhobo predates Benin Empire! Nothing Documented! Nothing Factual! Again I repeat all urhobo kings are Enogies for a reason!! |