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Christianity EtcRe: "I Traveled To Mecca And Came Back To Become A Pastor" by ayenny02(m): 7:32am On May 19, 2013
noblefada: @ayenny02 to answer your question man is made of spirit, soul and body. What we use as mortal men is our soul which is very limited, but our spirit knows and can recognise spirit beings. Pls don't use ur natural mind to explain the things of the spirit. That's why any one dat dies will be able to distinguish spirit beings including angels & Christ Jesus.

And pls your guys so stop this nonsense that Jesus was a Muslim, pls Islam came a long while after Christianity and adopted some of the practise of Judaism. In otherwise they copied from some of the Jews religious ways of worship, which was also observed by Jesus and the early apostles because they were Jews. But now as xtians we have liberty in Christ 2 Corinthians 3:12-18
Christianity had deviated a long way from the original teachings of Jesus. Jesus said in

Matthew5:17-18
17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

God then sent as part of His original plan His last Prophet as revivalist to restore all these changes: the Roman Julian calendar introduced as the Christian era; pork not prohibited; circumcision abolished by Paul
Galatians 5:2
2 Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing.

All doctrines of modern Christianity are made by Men: the trinity, Divine Sonship of Jesus, Divinity of Jesus Christ, Original Sin and Atonement.
IslamRe: The Sources Of The Quran by ayenny02(op): 6:01am On May 19, 2013
truthman2012: You shall know the truth and it will set you free. Who is the truth? Jesus (John 14:6) Sura 3:55

You know the truth only if you wish to know. I qouted the quran because that is what you believe in. Even Allah recorgnises Jesus and His followers better than the muslims. Thank you.
Thank God that you have known the truth and accepted that Jesus Christ was not crucified and not killed. Small Small now you go accept that Christianity is falsehood.

Q3:55
Behold! Allah said: "O Jesus! I will take thee and raise thee to Myself and clear thee (of the falsehoods) of those who blaspheme; I will make those who follow thee superior to those who reject faith, to the Day of Resurrection: Then shall ye all return unto me, and I will judge between you of the matters wherein ye dispute.
IslamRe: The Sources Of The Quran by ayenny02(op): 8:38pm On May 18, 2013
truthman2012: I don't trust the words of the quran, which you call your proof. They were revealed to Muhammad by a violent spirit, which could not have come from the true God.

I realise the spirit of islam (violence) is already working inside you, going by your harsh words. Thank you.
You don't trust Quran but you disagreed with ur Bible after the clear envidence from your Bible. Don't worry continue with ur disbelief and your conscience will be telling you that you are not on a right path.
Christianity EtcRe: "I Traveled To Mecca And Came Back To Become A Pastor" by ayenny02(m): 8:19pm On May 18, 2013
truthman2012: Read the Bible. Search for the truth.
Which truth? I asked you to tell me how Jesus worshiped his Lord to know maybe you are serving the truth God
Christianity EtcRe: "I Traveled To Mecca And Came Back To Become A Pastor" by ayenny02(m): 5:19pm On May 18, 2013
truthman2012: You should know that Christianity is not the same as Judaism and they are not practiced the same way.
Ok tell me how Jesus worshiped his God then?
Christianity EtcRe: "I Traveled To Mecca And Came Back To Become A Pastor" by ayenny02(m): 5:15pm On May 18, 2013
highyo: @ ayenny002 I believe what He said about God freeing Abraham after The Ressurection of Jesus
Exampla

Darkness can only summon people out of darkness
not summoning people of God under the shadow of the Lord with demonics power
e.g. 1 sam 28:15, The Womam could summon Samuel with demonic power because He is in the realm of darkness
Jesus Came to set the captive free, the holy one that were captured in the underworld were set free and was taken to heaven
The underworld is where the dead moved to when they died then.
but now the saint go to heaven and the wicked go to the hades

He (Jesus) collected the key from death and Hades

Secondly, why allah will want the muslim body to be buried immediately, he knew God have the power to raised the dead
and the secreat in Islam will be exposed most expecially if a strong man in islam died and come back to life after two or three days

He might exposed where muslim end up their journey after life

that was the reason why they must be buried immidiately after death,
and they must be thight with a rope so that even when the have the strentgth they will not be able to get out from their grave

We have heard about many hundred of christains that have died and came back after a day, two, three, even four

Example is T.O Obadare that later died again

and Gbenga Adeboye that also died again

they were many but this one are very popular

Muslim, please seek for the truth and it will set you free
Hope u understand what u are saying, I said give me authoritative reference how Abraham didn't make heaven till after jesus death.
Am not asking u how death will come back in 2day and if that the case let wait and see maybe Achebe or Ojukwu will raise back to life. LIARS
IslamRe: The Sources Of The Quran by ayenny02(op): 8:58am On May 18, 2013
truthman2012: This argument appears endless and that is why I got disinterested talking further.

The Jews told Jesus that they were Abraham descendants. Jesus agreed with them (John 8:31-37). If this is not enough for you to believe Abraham was a jew, leave it.

You said Sarah gave Hagar to Abraham to marry, did that make her his legal wife? Was Sarah the mother of Hagar to give her out in marriage?

If Hagar was Abraham's legal wife, would Sarah as a wife herself have the gut to ask her to leave the house? Why would God support Hagar being sent away if a legal wife?

If you will answer those questions objectively, you will get my message.

If you are now settled with the questions of illegitimate marriage, then there are yet two more questions and they are;

(1) Why would God choose to build His house with the illegitimate family, which He supported their being sent away and not with the legitimate family? Pls note that Ishmael was not the child God promised Abraham. Why would God leave Isaac, the child He promised and build house with Ishmael?

(2) From your writing, there is no argument that Abraham and Ishmael were not living together because you said Abraham went on a visit to Ishmael. How then was the black stone sent to both of them in Arabia as a mark or pointer of the location of Kaaba?

I rest my case here.
See how you failed woefully, you better leave ur misguided religion and come to religion which God will accept from mankind.

I asked to produce proof how Abraham was a jews and come here with rubbish, go back to my explaination how judah was named jews as nick name. The quran says the truth abt Abraham;

And in Q3:67
Abraham was not a Jew nor yet a Christian; but he was true in Faith, and bowed his will to Allah's (Which is Islam), and he joined not gods with Allah.

Also I asked you to give authoritative references where Bible called ismael an illegitimate son but come here with empty head without any proof.

I will advice to leave that false you are in and accept true and accepted religion
Christianity EtcRe: "I Traveled To Mecca And Came Back To Become A Pastor" by ayenny02(m): 8:05am On May 18, 2013
truthman2012: @ ayenny02

I want to believe you did not understand my post because in all you said I could not see where anyone washed his legs hand, nose, mouth etc AT THE SAME TIME and face Kaaba putting only his forehead on the ground like muslims.

All I could see are people kneeling down praying. I even saw praying with fasting, how relevant this is, I don't know.

I saw some people praying facing a particular direction requesting God to answer their prayer because they did so (no washing of all body parts like muslims). It was their personal decision to face the direction, it was not commanded by God and not a ROUTINE.

Pilgrimage. Christians too go to Jerusalem to see those things the Bible talks about not to worship an idol like the muslims do in Mecca.

Acts 21:26
The Jews have days they set aside for purification of the temple, which Paul also had to observe. It was not every hour or every day affairs.

In all you have stated nobody followed the muslims way of praying. Those who washed their hands and legs never washed the mouth, nose and ear at the same time.

Those who faced a particular direction praying never washed any part of their body. No where did anybody complete the proccess of muslim prayer at the same. You people just picked one here one there and incompletely joined them together.
Can u tell me how many christian performed those verses I qouted above unless you tell me is not in the Bible
Christianity EtcRe: "I Traveled To Mecca And Came Back To Become A Pastor" by ayenny02(m): 7:40pm On May 17, 2013
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Christianity EtcRe: "I Traveled To Mecca And Came Back To Become A Pastor" by ayenny02(m): 7:38pm On May 17, 2013
truthman2012: When will you stop deceiving yourself, Jesus did not wash His hands, legs, nose, mouth etc before He prayed. Christians do lie down, putting their face (not forehead alone) on the ground when praying, not as a law but when they feel like doing so.

Tell me where Jesus or Moses or any prophets washed their hands, leg, nose, face etc at the same time before putting their face on ground facing Kaaba praying. If it is NOT exactly this, it is not muslim prayer. Is it?

Muslims must face Kaaba and do the rituals of washing certain parts of their body before Allah can hear them because that is where his throne is. He is not everywhere. He is not the Omnipresent God.
1.) Taking off your shoes before entering the place of worship:
Exodus 3:5
"Do not come any closer," God said. "Take off your sandals, for the place where you are standing is holy ground."
Acts 7:33
"Then the Lord said to him, 'Take off your sandals; the place where you are standing is holy ground.


2.) Ablution-Washing before prayers
Exodus 40:31-32
and Moses and Aaron and his sons used it to wash their hands and feet.They washed whenever they entered the Tent of Meeting or approached the altar, as the Lord commanded Moses.

Acts 21:26
Then Paul took the men, and the next day purifying himself with them entered into the temple, to signify the accomplishment of the days of purification, until that an offering should be offered for every one of them.


3.) Genuflection (Rukoo)
Luke 22:41
“He withdrew about a stone's throw beyond them, knelt down and prayed”,

Acts 7:60
“And he kneeled down, and cried with a loud voice, Lord, lay not this sin to their charge. And when he had said this, he fell asleep”

Acts 20:36.
“When he had said this, he knelt down with all of them and prayed”.


4.) Prostration (Sujood)

Nehemiah 8:4-6:
4And Ezra the scribe stood upon a pulpit of wood, which they had made for the purpose; and beside him stood Mattithiah, and Shema, and Anaiah, and Urijah, and Hilkiah, and Maaseiah, on his right hand; and on his left hand, Pedaiah, and Mishael, and Malchiah, and Hashum, and Hashbadana, Zechariah, and Meshullam.

5And Ezra opened the book in the sight of all the people; (for he was above all the people and when he opened it, all the people stood up:

6And Ezra blessed the LORD, the great God. And all the people answered, Amen, Amen, with lifting up their hands: and they bowed their heads, and worshipped the LORD with their faces to the ground


Genesis 17:3
Abram fell facedown, and God said to him,

Numbers 20:6
Moses and Aaron went from the assembly to the entrance to the Tent of Meeting and fell facedown, and the glory of the LORD appeared to them.

Joshua 5:14
"Neither," he replied, "but as commander of the army of the LORD I have now come." Then Joshua fell facedown to the ground in reverence, and asked him, "What message does my Lord have for his servant?"

Matthew 26:39
"Going a little farther, he (Jesus) fell with his face to the ground and prayed, "My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me. Yet not as I will, but as you will."


5.) Zakat (Charity) as a means of purification and growth
1Peter 4:8
"And above all things have fervent charity among yourselves: for charity shall cover the multitude of sins".


6.) Fasting and Prayers
Matthew 17:21
Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting.
Mark 9:29
"And he said unto them, This kind can come forth by nothing, but by prayer and fasting".


7.) Hajj-Pilgrimage To Makkah (aka Bacca in the Quran)
Psalm 84:4-7
"Blessed are those who dwell in your house;they are ever praising you.Selah Blessed are those whose strength is in you,who have set their hearts on pilgrimage.As they pass through the Valley of Baca,they make it a place of springs;the autumn rains also cover it with pools.They go from strength to strength,till each appears before God in Zion.Hear my prayer, O Lord God Almighty;listen to me, O God of Jacob.Selah Look upon our shield,c O God;look with favor on your anointed one.Better is one day in your courts than a thousand elsewhere;I would rather be a doorkeeper in the house of my God than dwell in the tents of the wicked. For the Lord God is a sun and shield;the Lord bestows favor and honor;no good thing does he withhold from those whose walk is blameless. Lord Almighty,blessed is the man who trusts in you.


8.) Qiblah-Direction Towards the House of God While Praying
Daniel 6:10
Now when Daniel learned that the decree had been published, he went home to his upstairs room where the windows opened toward Jerusalem. Three times a day he got down on his knees and prayed, giving thanks to his God, just as he had done before.

Jonah 2: 4-7
“Then I said, I am cast out of thy sight; yet ‘I will look again’ toward thy holy temple…When my soul fainted within me I remembered Yahweh; and my prayer came in unto thee, into thine holy temple.”

2 Chronicles 6:18-21
18 “But will God really dwell on earth with humans? The heavens, even the highest heavens, cannot contain you. How much less this temple I have built! 19 Yet, LORD my God, give attention to your servant’s prayer and his plea for mercy. Hear the cry and the prayer that your servant is praying in your presence. 20 May your eyes be open toward this temple day and night, this place of which you said you would put your Name there. May you hear the prayer your servant prays toward this place. 21 Hear the supplications of your servant and of your people Israel when they pray toward this place. Hear from heaven, your dwelling place; and when you hear, forgive.

1 Kings 8:27-29
27 “But will God really dwell on earth? The heavens, even the highest heaven, cannot contain you. How much less this temple I have built! 28 Yet give attention to your servant’s prayer and his plea for mercy, LORD my God. Hear the cry and the prayer that your servant is praying in your presence this day. 29 May your eyes be open toward this temple night and day, this place of which you said, ‘My Name shall be there,’ so that you will hear the prayer your servant prays toward this place.

Isaiah 38:2
"Then Hezekiah turned his face toward the wall, and prayed unto the LORD".

1 Kings 8:44-45
"When you command your people to go into battle against their enemies and they pray to you, wherever they are, facing this city which you have chosen and this Temple which I have built for you, listen to their prayers. Hear them in heaven and give them victory".
Christianity EtcRe: "I Traveled To Mecca And Came Back To Become A Pastor" by ayenny02(m): 7:21pm On May 17, 2013
truthman2012: If you see Jesus in dream all of these your questions will be answered. I pray you see him and your life will not remain the same. He might even decide to appear to you when you are not sleeping like the experience of some people.
I asked you to describe jesus to me to be able to recognize if I see him, but you refused, the person that I don't know, how can I recognise him or maybe the one you are carrying all along on the cross?
Christianity EtcRe: "I Traveled To Mecca And Came Back To Become A Pastor" by ayenny02(m): 6:33pm On May 17, 2013
truthman2012: Who has satan appeared to in dream and directed him to Jesus who he (satan) hates so much? Can satan direct people to Jesus?
Simple question, how can we recognize Jesus in dream? Was he a white man, or black man, or brown man, or short, long, fat or slim man, tell me if I see him in dream I can be able to recognize him.
Christianity EtcRe: "I Traveled To Mecca And Came Back To Become A Pastor" by ayenny02(m): 6:28pm On May 17, 2013
enilove: Your point above shows you are not aknowlegeable spiritually.
When you disprove of what someone says,there is need for you to prove where you don't agree with his points.

It is easy to say something is wrong than to prove the wrong.
Even in schools,teachers do not just come to class to mark assingments but will also prove where d students have made mistakes.

May be you do not know that no one can be saved without Jesus Christ. Even Abraham did not make heaven until the death of Jesus Christ.

Mind you,what you write ,say and think about might be used against you on the day of judgment,especially when it partains to the saving or destruction of souls.

Rev.21:8 says " But d fearful, & UNBELIEVING,& d abominable,& d murderers, d whoremongers,sorcerers,idolaters and all LIARS, shall have their part in d lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death."

Think very well on this scripture. If the message is from God to save many,and you and others do not believe,it is not a sin,but to write and to make others not to believe, can lead to eternal damnation.

More so,you could not point out the inconsistency in the message for others to reason with.

Anyone who lies using the name of God shall end up in hell fire ,unless he repents.
If the OP has given a false revelation, let him alone,he will face the wrath of God.

What has the poster got to gain in given a false message?
I don't know why christianity is full of lies.

Your statement (Even Abraham did not make heaven until the death of Jesus Christ.) I need reference on that statement how Abraham did not make heaven
(Another lies)
Christianity EtcRe: "I Traveled To Mecca And Came Back To Become A Pastor" by ayenny02(m): 5:22pm On May 17, 2013
truthman2012: Have you dreamt before? Dream is another spiritual existence. Aside the fact that when you dream you have spiritual knowledge, the person who appears in dream will show you who he is or else his appearance is of no use.

Jesus can go to Jerusalem and save the muslims. He knows those who are sincerely but ignorantly serving a false god. Who said He had not been there?
So if satan appears to you in your dream he (satan) would tell you he is satan abi? How do you recognise Jesus from Satan when you don't recognise them? Can u recognise Jonatan if u see him in you dream? Liars
Christianity EtcRe: "I Traveled To Mecca And Came Back To Become A Pastor" by ayenny02(m): 3:54pm On May 17, 2013
highyo: This is the right time for you because tomorrow might be too late
He will judge the world.
but by then it will be too late to give your life to him
I have heard many testimonies about many muslims ending up in hell all just they fails to believe the truth
No one can enter into the Kingdom of God except trough Jesus
He is the Gate
No one can Get to the father except trough Him
I know you may say this, Can 1.5Billions of Muslim be wrong and only you be right?
well Noah alone was right and the whole world were wrong and they all perished
If you believe the story of Noah, Then you Must believe the word of God (Bible)
1John 2:22 If any one said Jesus in not the son of God, He is a liar and an antichrist. He has not believed in God
This might be your last chance, because when you died withou Christ, it will be too late
Pray to the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob to show you the truth, before is too late. when you died it will be too late.
even if The lord sent you back to the world, you know Islam corpse does not spend a day?
You would have being buried by then, then you will die again
Maybe you forgot to call ur BOSS Apostle PAUL false prophet;
In Second Corinthians 12:16, paul says, “Being crafty, I caught you with guile.”

So some assert paul was teaching that it is ok to lie. But if you read the passage, the sentence is a rhetorical reference to an apparent charge by skeptics.
paul seems to be answering a charge against him that he had enriched himself with the money collected for the saints. So contrary to the assertion, paul is teaching that skeptics slander teachers of the gospel, and not that it is ok to lie.

In Romans 3:7, paul says, “For if the truth of God hath abounded through my lie unto his glory; why yet am I also judged as a sinner?


It is at this point in paul’s discussion, that paul addresses another possible charge by skeptics. paul phrases the charge rhetorically in our verse (Rom. 3:7) that if our lies make God look good, why does God hold our lies against us. He, of course, answers the rhetorical question by saying those that say, “Let us do evil that good may come” deserve condemnation.

If through my falsehood God's truthfulness abounds to His glory, why am I still being condemned as a sinner.' (Romans 3:7), thereby disregarding and contradicting his own book where we read: 'A faithful witness does not lie, but a false witness breathes out lies.' (Proverbs 14:5)."
Christianity EtcRe: "I Traveled To Mecca And Came Back To Become A Pastor" by ayenny02(m): 2:51pm On May 17, 2013
highyo: One things I will want you to understand
The Bible said in Romans 10:20 I showed myself to those who were not asking for me." ... And Isaiah says boldly: I was found by those who were not looking for Me;

He review Himself
Simple question you can't answer. Were u among the disciples of Jesus Christ to make u recognised jesus or maybe you have Jesus photo with you to be able to recognised him. I beg leave story Mr liar and I don't blame u becos ur boss PAUL used lies too
Christianity EtcRe: "I Traveled To Mecca And Came Back To Become A Pastor" by ayenny02(m): 9:33am On May 17, 2013
Pls don't forget to tell Jesus whenever he appears again in your dream that he should go to Jerusalem to convert all muslim in that city to christianity because na that place him birth place.
Christianity EtcRe: "I Traveled To Mecca And Came Back To Become A Pastor" by ayenny02(m): 9:05am On May 17, 2013
highyo: I TRAVEL TO MECCA AND CAME BACK TO BECOME A PASTOR
My name is Ali, I beat my wife every day, she still has marks on her body from where I beat her, I could not help myself. As I talk about my weaknesses, I feel ashamed. I beat her daily. My wife and children were fully humiliated, but it was beyond my control. At times,, I will spend a month at times a year outside, not to harm them. I spent my money on drinking at times I sit to watch other family, how their father cares for them, but I could not imitate them.
I was a very devoted Muslim. I later quit drinking, and then I decided to move to Saudi Arabia, because I was told there is no selling of alcoholic there. Then I became very devoted Muslim in Saudi Arabia.
After year, I decide to go to Hajj. We reach Mecca by sunset and entered the Ka’aba. After going around the Ka’aba, evening prayers were performed; I became a Muslim devoted to this religion and a real pilgrim. Now I am going to live peacefully with my family I thought. Allah has accepted my prayers. That night, I slept outside because it was too hot in the tent. Suddenly, I saw a white shining man who asks me to go with him. Who is this? It was Isa, He ask me to follow him that I belong to him. He touched my head and ask me to depart from here. I do not belong there. When I woke up, the voice keeps warning me to depart from there, that I do not belong there. Then I rushed into the tent to woke my friend and told them about the dream, but they said, It is not possible to see Isa here, but the voice keep talking to my. I was not sleeping.
I decide to sleep again but the voice said, Ali, you do not belong here, leave that place now. You will not make this pilgrimage. I could not sleep, then I went into my car to sleep. The next morning my friend saw me in the car, they asked why and I told them Jesus keep talking to me, then we all concluded it was a bad night, that we should go to MINA. I set to go with them that morning then again, the voice ask me not to go to the pigramage. Then I rushed back to Akba, and rushed back home.
Many people came to welcome me, they were many, then I rose up and told them what happened to me. No one believed me, because no one can become a christain in Saudi Arabia. They all laugh at me that I has started drinking again. when other people left, I told my wife the whole story, I begged her for her forgiveness, and promise never to strike her again. Then I started crying. She was very surprised and agree join my new religion
People were very surprised for the new changes in me.for more than two years, I could not find a single christain in my country. So I was very disturbed, I never even came across bible, despite all my effort, so one day, I tuned my Radio, I heard a chistain message, then I worte down the station number, then they sent me a bible. I read the whole bible since then, My life changed totally, when I started living according to the bible. Christ is the true savior, and only him can give salvation, accept him today
Mr story teller, can I ask u a question and if u get it I will believe your story.

My question is that, you said you saw jesus in ur dream, were you among the the disciples of jesus Christ then that you can be able to recognised him that the man appeared to u in ur dream was Jesus?
Christianity EtcRe: God Plans To Destroy The Muslims by ayenny02(m): 8:42am On May 17, 2013
perilioustime: God plans to destroy The Muslims
We must fight Jihad, for this is the process to enter the paradise. This was what we were thought as a Muslims. I studied Islamic tautology, and we were told that the Jews will be destroyed to the extent that the stone will cry out.
I never ask myself as a Muslim what was the secret behind this? We belief Jews stole Palestine land. They persecute them, Jews are prophet killers, they practice cultism, they trade drugs, Jews has over throne the west so all this Ideology I had was from My religion. So we must fight the Christians and the Jews and get them destroyed
So I later got married to an American woman and I tried to convert her to Islam, I told her that the bible is corrupted. The Old Testament was corrupted by the Jews and the New Testament was corrupted by the Christians.
So she gave me a bible to figure out the corruption in it, that if I can do that, she will change into a Muslim. So I ask myself, why my teachings in Islam hate the Jew so much. Then I began to read the Bible, and came across how the Lord will come to fight for Jerusalem in book of Isaiah and how God will enter into judgment with those that persecute the Israelite. I was only interested in figuring out the corruption, I believe the Quran was true because of the classical language.
But I discovered that there are certain things written in the Quran that has scientific evidence, also the Bible also has so more than the Quran and the Quran scientific evidence was taken out of the Bible. I read 1352 prophetic evidence in the Bible. No other book in history has this kind of evidence.
So I started praying to the Lord of Isaac Abraham and Jacob to show me the truth, I was very afraid because to become a Christians in Islam is Hell. Then I kneel and pray for to the lord, and ask Jesus to come into my life, and then my life was changed immediately. It was just like a miracle
All my life I was thought to hate the Jews and kill Christians in the name of Jihad, but I was wrong.

MY MESSAGE TO ALL MY MUSLIMS BROTHERS AND SISTERS

I will want you all to read psalm 83, which talk about Muslims coming to destroyed Christians, talks about Muslims coming to destroy Israel, talks about Muslims nations destroying Christians
ISHMAELITE, EDOMITES, ASSYRIA, MOABITES, HAGRITES, TYRE, GEBAL, AMMON, AMLEK, PHILISTIA
Also I came to the word of Christ which says I am the Truth The Way and the Life, No one can get to Heaven except through Him. If that is true, without him no salvation and without salvation then eternal hell
If Islam rejects that Jesus pay for their sins, then they must reject Mecca, black stone etc
Jesus is the bridge to God. There is no claim for Islam’s except punishment that they will get at the end time. Read Ezekiel 28,29,30,31. Isaiah 10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18 and 19.
E.g. Isaiah 19 talks about the Lord coming to fight Egypt,
Isaiah 63, how the Lord will destroy them.
These country is a Muslim country. Jesus is not a Muslim, but a Jew
The message of the Lord Jesus was proclaim 1000 years ago and Mohammed has produces messages contradict the message. And the bible warned against false prophet coming
God promise to reign in Jerusalem, and not MECCA. Jerusalem is the holy place, and Mecca was never the holy place
Abraham never build a KABBA. Zachariah 12 & 14 warn the Muslim so much. The message between Quran and Muhammad is very satanic. It is not from God
Satan is a liar, you must examine the evidence. Ask your self is it from God or devil? Devil hate human and God Loves human. God said I those who lose his life will find it. Losing your life is not about blowing up yourself up but it means
I WILL SEND YOU SHEEP AMONG THE WOLVES. In other way Muslims are the wolves and Christians are the Sheep’s.
You can only find the Christians been killed and persecuted by the Muslims. If the Islam’s is the true religion, why then did they persecute the Christians and not Christians persecuting the Muslims?.
No one will want to kill another except the Muslims

My Muslim brother, try to pray to the lord of Isaac, Abraham and Jacob to show you the truth. Quran is not the truth but the Bible, loving Muslims is telling them the truth, but if you know the truth and you did not tell them, they will died and go to hell and they will curse you forever for not telling them the truth.
They may ask you that can just one person be right and 2billion people be wrong? If you believe the story of Noah, only Noah was right and the whole world was wrong
YOU ARE A LIAR, you are not a muslim. Let me expose some of ur lies below

Firstly, you said ur america woman asked u to show her some corrupted verses in bible and as a muslim you can't show her some of these below, definitely you were ot a muslim;

May be u forgot those contradiction in ur bible

ARE U SURE THAT THE BIBLE IS HOLY (YES or NO)

1a). 2 Samuel 24:1
24 And again the anger of the Lord was kindled against Israel, and he moved David against them to say, Go, number Israel and Judah.

1b). 1 Chronicles 21:1
21 And Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel.

QUESTION------( is lord of david then satan)


2a). 2 Samuel 8:4
4 And David took from him a thousand chariots, and seven hundred horsemen, and twenty thousand footmen: and David houghed all the chariot horses, but reserved of them for an hundred chariots.

2b). 1 Chronicles 18:4
4 And David took from him a thousand chariots, and seven thousand horsemen, and twenty thousand footmen: David also houghed all the chariot horses, but reserved of them an hundred chariots.

QUESTION--(seven hundred OR seven thousand)


3a). 2 Samuel 10:18
18 And the Syrians fled before Israel; and David slew the men of seven hundred chariots of the Syrians, and forty thousand horsemen, and smote Shobach the captain of their host, who died there.

3b). 1 Chronicles 19:18
18 But the Syrians fled before Israel; and David slew of the Syrians seven thousand men which fought in chariots, and forty thousand footmen, and killed Shophach the captain of the host.

QUESTION--(seven hundred chariots OR seven thousand men? Forty thousand horsemen OR footmen? Shobach OR shophach)


4a). 2 Kings 8:26
26 Two and twenty years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign; and he reigned one year in Jerusalem. And his mother's name was Athaliah, the daughter of Omri king of Israel

4b). 2 Chronicles 22:2
2 Forty and two years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign, and he reigned one year in Jerusalem. His mother's name also was Athaliah the daughter of Omri.

QUESTION---( twenty two OR forty two years)


5a). 2 Kings 24:8
8 Jehoiachin was eighteen years old when he began to reign, and he reigned in Jerusalem three months. And his mother's name was Nehushta, the daughter of Elnathan of Jerusalem.

5b). 2 Chronicles 36:9
9 Jehoiachin was eight years old when he began to reign, and he reigned three months and ten days in Jerusalem: and he did that which was evil in the sight of the Lord.

QUESTION---(eighteen yrs OR eight yrs? Three mths OR three mths and ten days)


FROM NEW TESTAMENT

1a). John 5:37
37 And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape.

1b). John 14:9
9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?


2a). John 5:31
31 If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true.

2b). John 8:14
14 Jesus answered and said unto them, Though I bear record of myself, yet my record is true: for I know whence I came, and whither I go; but ye cannot tell whence I come, and whither I go.


Secondly, you said jesus was a jews, pls bring ur proof how jesus became a jew. Another lie (another lies)

Thirdly, tell me how verses you quoted in psalms, ezekiel, isaiah were referred to christian becos I believed that there was noting like christianity in old testament.(Another lies)

I need response from u MR OP abt ur lies
Christianity EtcRe: God Plans To Destroy The Muslims by ayenny02(m): 8:36am On May 17, 2013
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IslamRe: Origin Of Ancient And Modern Festivals by ayenny02(op): 2:43pm On May 16, 2013
EASTER

Easter is the period when christian celebrate the”death” and “resurrection” of Jesus Christ. It is a major celebration becos it is on the belief in the crucificaxion of jesus that christianity hangs.

ORIGIN OF EASTER

Is easter a biblical celebration?

“The celebration of Easter is believed to have begun in about 68 AD. The english word easter probably comes from Eostre, a saxon goddess whose festival was celebrated about the time of the vernal equinox” Easter was thus unknown to the disciples of Jesus Christ. (Guinness Book of Answer)

Encyclopaedia Btitannica says that “the Anglo-saxon priest venerable bede in the 8th century derived the word Easter from the Anglo-saxon spring goddess Eostre”

Does the word “Easter” apper in the Bible?
Nelson’s illustrated Bible Dictionary goes on to say “The only appearance of the word Easter (KJV) is a mistranslation of pascha, the ordinary greek word for “passover” (Acts 12:4)

ORIGIN OF EASTER PRACTICES

Encyclopaedia Britannical says, “As at Christmas, so also at Easter , popular customs reflect many ancient pagan survivals. In this instance, connected with spring fertility rites such as tthe symbols of the easter egg and easter hare or rabbit”. This is similar to the osun festival among pagan yorubas.

Easter begins with Ash Wednesday, followed by lent, which is a forty-days fasting observed by Orthodox and Aladura churches but rejected by pentecostal churches. Palm Sunday follows lent. Christian bear palm frond about to mark Jesus entry into jerusalem. This is followed by Good Friday, which most christians observed. They claimed that

Good Friday is the day Christ was crucified. Good Friday is “good” because according to them, jesus blood was shed to “wash away” their sins. The Monday after Good Friday is called Easter.
IslamRe: Why Did This Happen? Are You Ok With It? by ayenny02(m): 7:36am On May 14, 2013
Kairoseki77: Unless you think the holy Hadiths are lies, then it is obvious that the girl was 6 (or 7) when they were engaged and that she was 9 when they consummated the marriage.

If you cannot defend this action without lying about it, then maybe you should admit that it was wrong.
I thought you came here to learn what u don't understand but come here with blasphemy from anti-islam site. I gave u a link abt famous case of a Thai girl, that got pregnant at d age of 9yrs but not satisfied you
http://www.kboi2.com/news/local/18769804.html

I gave you references how Aisha was already engaged to a non Muslim man, then, the people of Mecca did not object to Aisha's engagement and she was physically big enough and tall enough to be considered for marriage. Her parents saw that and they engaged her to Jober, but u are not satisfied again.

OK, What about Mary, Jesus' Mother peace be upon both of them? How old was she when she got pregnant?

Not only was it a custom in the Arab society to Engage/Marry a young girl it was also common in the Jewish society. the case of Mary the mother of Jesus comes to mind, she was between 11-14 years old when she conceived Jesus. Mary had already been "BETHROED" to Joseph before conceiving Jesus.

Joseph was a much older man. therefore Mary was younger than 11-14 years of age when she was "BETHROED" to Joseph. we Muslims would never call Joseph a Child Molester, nor would we refer to the "Holy Ghost" of the Bible, that "Impregnated" Mary as a "Rapist" or "Adulterer".

According to the Priest of Saint Mary's Catholic Church: "Mary was approximately 14 years old when she got pregnant with Jesus. Joseph, Mary's Husband is believed to be around 36. Mary was only 13 when she married Joseph. When she first was arranged with Joseph she was between 7 to 9 years old."

According to the "Oxford Dictionary Bible" commentary, Mary (peace be upon her) was 12 years old when she became impregnated.

So if I want to be as silly and ridiculous as many of the Christians, I would respond to them by saying that Mary was psychologically and emotionally devastated for getting pregnant at a very young age. And speaking of "child molesting", since most Christians believe that Jesus is the Creater of this universe, then why did GOD allow himself to enter life through a 12-year old young girl's vagina?

Please note that we Muslims love and respect Allah Almighty, Mary, Jesus and Allah's Message to the People of the Book (The Jews and Christians). In other words, we Muslims would never make fun of Christianity through such childish topic like this one as many ridiculous Christians do make fun of Islam through our Prophet's (peace be upon him) marriage.



LASTLY, when nobody 1400 years ago from his tribe had objected to his marriage? Not even the Pagans of Mecca, nor the Jews and Christians of Medina ever objected to it or used it as a point against Islam as anti-Islamic do today. So my brother u will never see anytin against Islam in as much as those who against the Prophet then, were not use it against him.

ON THIS, I BEG NO SHAKING, go to another anti-islam sites to bring another one.
IslamRe: Origin Of Ancient And Modern Festivals by ayenny02(op):
ayenny02: NEW YEAR’S DAY

New year’s day is the biggest festival of the yearfor many christians. Christian believe new year marks another year since the “death of jesus. They believe that the year belongs to jesus christ; therefore the year is called Anno Domini, i.e “the year of the Lord (Christ)”, that is, the number of the year since Jesus “died”.

ORIGIN OF NEW YEAR

The first new year was celebrated in 713 BC. The guinness Book of Answer says, “The first recorded new year’s festival is that constituted by Numa 713 BC and dedicated to Janus.

Also (Robert J. Myers, Celebration) tell us that, “The Roman, in 152 BC, were the first to use january 1 as the beginning of the year” Note that BC means Before (the birth of) Christ. In other words before the birth of Christ, pagans had been celebrating the New year. The Bible does not record that jesus took part in such a celebration.
Numa dedicated the new year to janus, a roman god, from whom january is obtained. Janus was supposed to be a god with two heads!. The equivalent of janus among the yoruba is Esu: messenger of the gods; master of deception; curator of evils! Today, the festival dedicated to janus is sustained by New Year celebration

THE GREGORIAN CALENDAR

The gregorian calendar is named after pope gregory xiii. The calendar is so called because gregory xiii was the last person to “reform” its precursor, the julian calendar, in 1582 CE. The refprmation was thought necessary becos of inaccurancies in calculating the solar calendar

THE NUMAN CALENDAR

The first person to reform the calendar was Numa. He was also the first person to celebrate the new year festival, as it is currently known in the world.

Months origin
March.... Named for Mars
April.... Named for Aphrodite
May .... Named for Maia
June .... Named for Juno
Quintilis.... Latin for fifth as in quintusplets
Sextilis.... Latin for sixth as in sextet
September..... Latin for seventh as in septennial
October..... Latin for eighth as in octopus
November..... Latin for ninth
December..... Latin for tenth as in decimal
January..... Named for janus
February..... Named for the festival of Februa

Before Numa, the calendar had only ten months in a year. During the rule of numa, january and february were added to the calendar as the 11th and 12th mths.



To be continued.....
THE JULIAN CALENDAR
In 45 BC, julius caesar carried out his own “reform” of the calendar. On the advice of sosigenes, an astronomer, he brought january from 11th position and took it to the 1st position, and he took february from 12th position to the 2nd position

1st . january. 2nd. february. 3rd. March 4th. april. 5th. may. 6th june 7th quintils. 8th. Sextilis. 9th september 10th october. 11th november. 12th december.

In 44 BC, the roman senate decided to honour julius caesar by dedicating a mth to him. The fifth mth, quintilis (which had been pushed to the seventh position in julian calendar), was chosen. The mth was renamed july from the name julius.

In the yr 8 BC, eight yrs b4 Jesus is reckoned to have been born, the roman senate decided to honour the first emperor of rome, Augistus Caesar. Sexitilis was dedicated to Augustus Caesar. Sextilis was thus change to August from name Augustus Caesar

Julius Caesar’s mth, july, then had 31st days and Augustus Caesar’s mth, August, had 30 days. Augustus was not happy that August, his mth, was shorter than july, julius’ mth. So he reduced February from 29 to 28 days and added the day he had cut off from february to august. August thus became 31 days. Setember then had 31 days.

August did not want three mths following successively (i.e july, august and september) to have 31 days. So, he cut sept to 30 days, made october 31 days, reducednovember to 30 days and made december 31 days. That is how the months got their present lenghts. (encyclopaedia britannica)
TravelRe: QATAR And UAE General Visa Enquiries by ayenny02(m): 3:25am On May 13, 2013
Yaasir: @ogakpatakpata and others
Pls, I need a sincere advice concerning my case. I have the the following qualification and experience
1) a B.Sc in Accounting
2) 2 Professional qualifications; ACA and Taxation
3) 5 years banking experience in Nigeria.

I also have a wife, a B.Sc holder in Linguistics, who is a teacher in government school.

I really want to travel to UAE or any other promising country for that matter.
Mind you, I am working with a Nigerian bank at present and my salary is roughly 190k per month.

Your sincere assessment will be highly appreciated.
Thank you.
From what u have said, I will advice u to stay in nigeria and search for job here, if you fortunately getting one pls just compare it with ur salary in nigeria if it is ok. But if you dont have a job presently then you can make a move to travel
IslamRe: Origin Of Ancient And Modern Festivals by ayenny02(op): 9:17pm On May 12, 2013
NEW YEAR’S DAY

New year’s day is the biggest festival of the yearfor many christians. Christian believe new year marks another year since the “death of jesus. They believe that the year belongs to jesus christ; therefore the year is called Anno Domini, i.e “the year of the Lord (Christ)”, that is, the number of the year since Jesus “died”.

ORIGIN OF NEW YEAR

The first new year was celebrated in 713 BC. The guinness Book of Answer says, “The first recorded new year’s festival is that constituted by Numa 713 BC and dedicated to Janus.

Also (Robert J. Myers, Celebration) tell us that, “The Roman, in 152 BC, were the first to use january 1 as the beginning of the year” Note that BC means Before (the birth of) Christ. In other words before the birth of Christ, pagans had been celebrating the New year. The Bible does not record that jesus took part in such a celebration.
Numa dedicated the new year to janus, a roman god, from whom january is obtained. Janus was supposed to be a god with two heads!. The equivalent of janus among the yoruba is Esu: messenger of the gods; master of deception; curator of evils! Today, the festival dedicated to janus is sustained by New Year celebration

THE GREGORIAN CALENDAR

The gregorian calendar is named after pope gregory xiii. The calendar is so called because gregory xiii was the last person to “reform” its precursor, the julian calendar, in 1582 CE. The refprmation was thought necessary becos of inaccurancies in calculating the solar calendar

THE NUMAN CALENDAR

The first person to reform the calendar was Numa. He was also the first person to celebrate the new year festival, as it is currently known in the world.

Months origin
March.... Named for Mars
April.... Named for Aphrodite
May .... Named for Maia
June .... Named for Juno
Quintilis.... Latin for fifth as in quintusplets
Sextilis.... Latin for sixth as in sextet
September..... Latin for seventh as in septennial
October..... Latin for eighth as in octopus
November..... Latin for ninth
December..... Latin for tenth as in decimal
January..... Named for janus
February..... Named for the festival of Februa

Before Numa, the calendar had only ten months in a year. During the rule of numa, january and february were added to the calendar as the 11th and 12th mths.



To be continued.....
IslamOrigin Of Ancient And Modern Festivals by ayenny02(op): 8:38pm On May 12, 2013
ANCIENT AND MODERN FESTIVALS

Ancient and modern festivals in an investigation of the origin of those festivals; how they came about; who started them; where they began; and why they were started.

Muslim and christian today ask question about festivities all year round all around the world:

NEW YEAR,
EASTER,
CHRISTMAX, among christian while

ID AL-ADHA,
ID AL-FITR,
MAULOOD NABIYY,
HIJRAH among muslims and

APRIL FOOL,
WHITE WEDDING,
BIRTHDAY which are generally marked.

We are going to offer references from the scholar to aid us in arriving at a decision about what our attitude should be regarding those festivities.
In-shaAllahu
IslamRe: Nairaland Muslim Newbies: Introduce Yourselves Here by ayenny02(m): 8:30pm On May 12, 2013
Salam Alaykum everyone
IslamRe: Why Did This Happen? Are You Ok With It? by ayenny02(m): 6:10pm On May 12, 2013
Kairoseki77: Why did the Prophet Muhammad do these things? Please don't mention historical context, as Muslims believe he is a holy man that was sent to leave an ETERNAL model to follow.

Second question, are you happy he did these things?
Bonus points if you can answer the question without attacking other religions.

He married a 6 year old girl and consummated the marriage when she was 9, he married his son's wife (after he made his son divorce her), and he ordered the deaths of thousands.

At the Battle of The Trench he ordered the beheading of 900 people who had already surrendered. Then he sold the women and children into slavery.

He also owned slaves.

Please explain this to me. I mean no disrespect.
Even in this time of modern history, young girls are giving birth at the age of 9 what to talk of getting married. A very famous case of a Thai girl, that luckly got media's attention, must not be forgotten. you can visit the website yourself at

http://www.kboi2.com/news/local/18769804.html



Our response to the "Child Molester" lie against our beloved Prophet, Muhammad peace be upon him:


Every time the Muslims talk about Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him to the anti-Islamic, the anti-Islamic use Muhammad's marriage with a girl named Aisha as a point against Islam. They claim that since Muhammad was in his 50's and Aisha was only 9 years old, then its ok to call him a "Child Molester".

This is a terrible unfair attack on Islam because it doesn't apply to our beloved prophet in anyway !.

Was Aisha engaged to someone else before she got engaged to Muhammad?

Aisha was already engaged to a non Muslim man named Jober Ibn Al-Moteam Ibn Oday. Back then, the people of Mecca did not object to Aisha's engagement to Jober because she was physically big enough and tall enough to be considered for marriage. Her parents saw that and they engaged her to Jober.

The only reason why Aisha's father, Abu Baker Al Siddeek, broke her engagement with Jober is because he was a non Muslim. Later, a woman named Kholeah Bint Hakeem suggested for Muhammad to marry Aisha, because Muhammad and Abu Baker became best friends. Muhammad engaged Aisha for 2 years before he married her.

All Muslim scholars agree 100% that Muhammad and Aisha were engaged for 2 years before marriage. However, some say that she was 7 when she got engaged, and 9 when she got married. Others say that she was 9 when she got engaged and 11 when she got married.

It makes more logical sense to say that she was 9 when she got engaged to Muhammad and 11 when she got married, because if she were 7 when she got engaged to Muhammad, then how old was she when she first got engaged to Jober? I don't think she was big enough and mature enough to get engaged with Jober before the age of 7. I don't think her parents would have allowed it.

The Middle Eastern and other Cultures:

If you take the time to study a little bit about the history of the tribes in South America, Middle East, Africa, India and the far eastern Oriental countries 1400 years ago, you would find that many tribes even until today allow the marriage of females at a very young age.

Do you think it is fair for you to come today and attack our beloved Prophet and call him a child molester when nobody 1400 years ago from his tribe had objected to his marriage? Not even the Pagans of Mecca, nor the Jews and Christians of Medina ever objected to it or used it as a point against Islam as anti-Islamic do today.

We all need to understand the culture that we are talking about. Life in the Middle East is a very simple one. It is a lot simpler than what our brain can imagine,

Parents look at the girl's physical appearance when they prepare her for marriage. They don't care about her age. She could be 9 or 13, it doesn't matter.

What about Aisha's parents (mom and dad), are they too "Child Molesters"?

Since Aisha's parents both approved of her engagement with Jober and later approved to her marriage to Muhammad, is it fair for anyone to call her mom and dad and former fiancée and whole tribe all child molesters? I think whoever does that would be out of his mind and needs to study a little history about the Middle East.

Another points:

"Firstly - if indeed the marriage of Lady Aisha was something which was despicable even at that time and in that culture, this fact would never have been recorded for posterity and all efforts to conceal or cloud it would have been undertaken.

But the fact that this hadith had reached us after it was recorded centuries ago and to all the Muslim generations in between proved that the marriage was culturally and morally acceptable and the fact is also that the Muslim community at that time remained unshakened in its faith in his Prophethood and the message which he had brought bear testimony to this assertion.

Secondly - we have to look at the life of Lady Aisha afterwards. She was without doubt one of the foremost scholars of Islam. It is even said that she had attained in her lifetime the position of Mufti - someone capable of giving religious rulings - a position very few Muslims will ever occupy.

She was seeked by many, both men and women, who hungered for knowledge and they came to her from all directions, Yemen, Bahrain, Syria. History does not know of any woman who was approached by so many for such a noble purpose.

If indeed she had became a victim of sexual abuse she would in most probability be devastated emotionally, psychologically, mentally and perhaps even physically but the achievements she had made in her life after the death of the Prophet proved that she was a woman who was in complete control of her faculties, becoming one of the intellectual giants of Islam.

And the fact that she had spoken so dearly of the Prophet was indicative of the innocence of the marriage and of the impeccable character of her husband because given the trust enjoyed by her by the virtue of her relationship with him, she could have unleashed a vengeful attack against him by attributing to him words or deeds of horrendous nature if indeed she was a victim of his supposed lust, destroying both the Prophet and Islam.

No sexual abuse victim would ever spoke positively of her attacker, much less becoming a channel that promote love and understanding of him and the message which he had brought."

Conclusion

Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him was not a child molester as the haters of Islam claim. He was a Noble Messenger of God. Muhammad peace be upon him lived in a society and culture that existed 1400 years ago, and we must not judge what he or others did based on our standards today. It is wrong and foolish to do so !.


ARE U SATISFIED BEFORE I PROCEED TO NEXT QUESTION?
IslamRe: Is Ritual bath(janaba) Compulsory On Him Or Not? by ayenny02(m): 5:17pm On May 12, 2013
abdulkayus: Pls, wat is d rule on someone whose semen come out from his private part witout enjoyment i.e nt by sex, wet dream or mastubation bt was urinatin wen d semen come out. Is ritual bath compulsory on him or not? Need ur answers wit backup pls. Its urgent.
These are fatwa regarding ur case from The Permanent Committee for Scholarly Research and Ifta

Q 4: A discharge is emitted after making Janabah Ghusl (full ritual bath to cleanse of sexual discharge). Should I repeat Ghusl?

A: You have to perform Istinja' (cleansing the private parts with water) and Wudu' (ablution). You do not have to repeat Ghusl, if the discharges are emitted without having sexual thoughts or desire.

May Allah grant us success. May peace and blessings be upon our Prophet Muhammad, his family, and Companions



Q 2: After I perform Janabah Ghusl (full ritual bath to cleanse of sexual discharge), my penis discharges a drop or two; is it Wajib (obligatory) in this case that I perform Ghusl again or it is sufficient that I wash my penis and make Wudu' (ablution)?

A: If a person performs Janabah Ghusl then his penis discharges something, he has to perform Istinja' (cleansing the private parts with water after urination or defecation) then Wudu', but he does not have to remake Ghusl. The same applies even if it is only a small amount, as it nullifies Wudu'



Q: My problem is that I discharge Maniy (sperm/vaginal secretions that are released on orgasm) five or six times a day. I perform Ghusl (full ritual bath) twice a day. I offer two Salahs (Prayers) with the same Wudu' (ablution). However, I heard that my Salah is invalid. I caught a severe cold that lasted for four months due to this. I still suffer from it. I do not know whether I should perform Ghusl for every Salah or only every morning and offer the rest of Salahs with ordinary Wudu'?

A: If Maniy is ejaculated in spurts accompanied by feelings of pleasure, you should perform Ghusl every time it happens. Salah is invalid without Ghusl in this case. However, if it is ejaculated without pleasure, it necessitates Istinja' (cleansing the private parts with water) and Wudu' only, based on the saying of the Prophet (peace be upon him): If fluid gushes, perform Ghusl; and if it does not gush, do not perform Ghusl. (Related by Ahmad) The origin of this Hadith is found in the Two Sahih (authentic) Books of Hadith (i.e. Al-Bukhari and Muslim). However, if Maniy is discharged from a sleeping person, Ghusl should always be performed



Q: After taking Janabah Ghusl (full ritual bath to cleanse of sexual discharge), I wash my private parts, and then I wash my hands and perform Wudu' (ablution) for Salah (Prayer). Later on, and after about five minutes, I feel that something else is discharged. What should I do in this case? What is the ruling if something comes out from the private parts after having performed Ghusl, which I do not wash off believing it to be merely Waswasah (insinuating thoughts from Satan). After finishing the Salah, I wash it because of the frequent doubts that I have. Should I just perform Istinja' (cleansing the private parts with water after urination or defecation) in this case or repeat Ghusl (full ritual bath)?

A: The secretion that comes out after having performed Janabah Ghusl does not affect the validity of the Ghusl. However, you have to clean yourself by performing Istinja' followed by Wudu' (ablution) when you are going to perform an act that necessitates being in a state of Wudu', such as offering Salah or reciting the Qur'an from the Mus-haf (copy of the Qur'an), if the secretion is certain. However, if the secretion is just insinuations, do not give it much attention. If the secretion is Maniy (sperm or vaginal secretions that are released on orgasm) due to sexual pleasure, you must perform Ghusl.



http://www.alifta.net/Fatawa/FatawaChapters.aspx?View=Tree&NodeID=9546&PageNo=1&BookID=7
IslamRe: The Sources Of The Quran by ayenny02(op): 4:19pm On May 12, 2013
@truthman2012

Going through my explanation about Abraham, do you accept that;
1. Abraham was not a jew

2. Where in the Bible is it written that Ishmael was an illegitimate son?

3. Bring an authoritative references against the story how Abraham and his son built Kaaba?


I need ur response. Thks
IslamRe: The Sources Of The Quran by ayenny02(op): 4:00pm On May 12, 2013
truthman2012: @ lanrexlan

Abraham abandoned Hagar and Ishmael even though it didn't please him to do so. He had to obey Sarah because God supported her to send them away (Genesis 21:9-12).

God promised to make Ishmael great because of the love He had for Abraham afterall he was his seed but outside legitimate marriage. It was for illegitimate marriage between Abraham and Hagar that God sanctioned their sending away.

Correction - it was not Abraham who settled Hagar and Ishmael in Paran, Arabia. Abraham only prepared them for the journey and sent them away (Gen. 21:14).

You said when Abraham wanted to lay the foundation of Kaaba, he visited Ishmael and told him his mission. Although there is no authoritative source of this statement but if it is true it further confirms that Abraham and Ishmael were not living together in Arabia. How then was the black stone sent to both of them in Arabia?

I pray God will give you understanding to see how the Devil trick people into believing errors.
According to the Islamic version, Abraham took Ishmael and Hagar and made a new settlement in Makkah, called Paran in the Bible (Genesis 21:21), because of a divine instruction given to Abraham as a part of God's plan.

Hagar ran seven times between two hills, Safa and Marwa, looking for water. This is the origin of one of the rituals that is performed during the pilgrimage to Makkah. The well of water mentioned in Genesis 21:19 is still present and is known as called Zamzam.

Both Abraham and Ishmael later built the Ka'bah in Makkah. The spot where Abraham used to perform prayers near the Ka'bah is still present and is known as the Maqam Ibrahim, i.e., the Station of Abraham. During the pilgrimage, pilgrims in Makkah and Muslims all over the world commemorate the offering of Abraham and Ishmael by slaughtering cattle.

According to Islamic view;
Then Abraham stayed away from them for a period as long as Allah wished, and called on them afterwards. He saw Ishmael under a tree near Zamzam, sharpening his arrows. When he saw Abraham, he rose up to welcome him (and they greeted each other as a father does with his son or a son does with his father).

Abraham said, 'O Ishmael! Allah has given me an order.' Ishmael said, 'Do what your Lord has ordered you to do.' Abraham asked, 'Will you help me?' Ishmael said, 'I will help you.' Abraham said, Allah has ordered me to build a house here,' pointing to a hillock higher than the land surrounding it.

" The Prophet added, "Then they raised the foundations of the House (i.e. the Ka'ba). Ishmael brought the stones and Abraham was building, and when the walls became high, Ishmael brought this stone and put it for Abraham who stood over it and carried on building, while Ishmael was handing him the stones, and both of them were saying,

'O our Lord! Accept (this service) from us, Verily, You are the All-Hearing, the All-Knowing.' The Prophet added, "Then both of them went on building and going round the Ka'ba saying: O our Lord ! Accept (this service) from us, Verily, You are the All-Hearing, the All-Knowing." (2.127)  

(Sahih Bukhari, Prophets, Volume 4, Book 55, Number 583)"


This is islamic view on story of Abraham and his son, if you don't have any contrary view about the story please just accept it or bring Authoritative references to against it.

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