₦airaland Forum

chima12: Don't be naïve.That so called yoruba ex-pilot just spoke the mind of the entire yoruba tribe.the yorubas are always scared of competition and they believe the only way they can compete is by pulling you down [phd syndrome].going by the ex pilot logic,the best way to boost local airlines is by closing lagos airport international operations so that enugu and abuja can handle the international flights.that way the large population of lagos will boost the local airlines.

taharqa: shattap!!

taharqa: YOU have not seen anytin Good from SURE-P, although you are from Kogi, right? YOU hv not seen anytin from SURE-P in Kogi even though much of d Aladja-Ajaokuta-Warri Standard Guage Rail Line are in Kogi YOU have not seen anytin from SURE-P even though much of d Abuja-Lokoja Rd passes through Kogi YOU hv not seen anytin from SURE-P even though d Resuscitated Lagos-Kano Line takes sm detour tru parts of Kogi YOU hv not seen anytin from SURE-P even though at least 3500 persons hv been 'employed' by the scheme ??! Etc.... YOU sure ya are not BLIND?

blacksta: if you believe this sh1t - then you require urgent medical attention

BayoAA: Let me begin by saying every power project is different even if they produce the same megawatt. What is important is the operation cost of the plant which is totally different from construction and procuremnt cost. Generation units has qualities which is a factor of cost. You cannot compare jenbacher gas engines, CAT engines or MTU engines with one ying long or xuaishai engine......if it is turbine ...u cannot compare GE, Siemens or Solar with their Chinese competitors. All these are cost factor.
Before I go into economy of scale of power plant, let me explain a typical power plant auxiliary systems. fuel processing system. This comprises of heat exchangers, regulating valves, motors etc. You will need one for each type of fuel to be used.
Water processing unit which comprises of storage tanks, complex filtration systems, pumps, waste water processing facility, fire protection water, demin facility (not always)
Cooling water system- comprises of cooling fans, blowers and pumps.
Now to the economy of scale......if you have a plant with a single engine/turbine of 10MW, u will need all these systems and also if u have a 200MW plant of 5 engines/turbines.......u still need all these auxiliary system even doh with higher capacity.....the cost effect is always minimal.

And for your information to everyone..........the cost of generating 1MW from a gas engine is higher that generating from a turbine.

Lagos IPP is a gas engine station while Bauchi is going to be a Turbine.

There are a lot of technicalities attached to the cost of a power plant hence don't let some journalist, internet freelance throw you in disarray.

My final word is all these power plants are right steps in right direction. Assumming these trend started since 1990, when the last power plants before OBJ were built, we will not be where we are today.

Don Magic Juan: Well I wont blame you.

As I said the power plant will be dependent on an energy source in the form of LNG which without it won't be functional.
The LASG ascribed the reason for building this power plant mainly to service the Alausa secretatariat and adjourning street lights which will replace reliance on epileptic power supply from PHCN and the numerous backup diesel generators. So what you have in essence is actually a big generator for Alausa alone!

Don Magic Juan: When did I ever put a figure to any thing on this thread?

It won't hurt you to at least go through the thread, let it ruminate in your skull for a while then make a meaningful response post without looking for some one to argue f00lishly with you

Don Magic Juan: You are the typical epitomy of ignorance personified. Will it hurt your head to do your own reserch? Who is your errand boy here?

Mr. Gucci Analogist

Don Magic Juan: you really need to sit down by the side

Rad1cal: Please proceed to the side bench goon .

Don Magic Juan: google the latest power project scam by LASG in conjunction with Oando and then compare with what Bauchi state government is proposing and budgeting for.

p.s. there is a thread here on NL that was started by one of the APC etouts to glorify their masters on their latest scam power project but it backfired

Rad1cal: "smh" .Please proceed to the side bench and take your spot.

Rad1cal: Do a comparative cost analysis per MW of the proposed Bauchi plant and the 3.2billa LASG plant to arrive at your answer.

Rad1cal: Go and sit on the side bench with your deceit.

How can a 10.34MW plant cost additional 800 million against plants 10 times it capacity with attendant difficulties than the former.

What number are you on the Alausa payroll ?

Sincere 9gerian: 140 megawatts to be built at $201 million. $201 million is equals to N32 billion.

If we divide N32 billion by 140 megawatts we'll get N230 million per megawatt.

Can we compare the N230 million per megawatt in Bauchi state versus the N400 million per megawatt in Lagos? Who will deliver Lagos from the thieving duo of Tinubu and Fashola? What sins did Lagosians commit to warrant this mindless rapiing of their resources? Who will deliver my brothers and sisters in Lagos?

Enahi: U aren't seeing things from my point of view o. I sincerely don't think he wanted to dump Amya, he probably wanted to have fun with his ex,he is a man for goodness sake. Amya has made great changes in his life which his Ex couldn't. I think Amya should ask herself why he wants to have a fling with his Ex after all she has done for him. But Amya plz do not spend so much on a guy next time, na sense person dey take date naija guys. Don't spend but love ok.

Goddex: This is just a publicity stunt by the LASG to give Nigerians impression that they are working. How on earth should installing precast beams for a pedestrian bridge amount to a closure of road with newspaper advertorials?

freecocoa: My children will definitely speak my native language whether dem like am or not.

manny4life: So in your opinion, what do you think will take Nigeria to get a good credit system?

taharqa: My frnd, STOP with this yr Nonsense about new and used cars. Its completely IRRELEVANT.

And, nobody is banning used cars. A tariff of 15% or 30% (am not sure now) is only been initially imposed. EVERY Country who have grown their own local Automobile Industry have done same- from Brazil to India to China, etc. Even South Africa is said have a 105% tariff system in place in order to protect its own industry.

jmaine: Our unhealthy demands for used products needs severe reorientation and re-engineering. Its reminiscent of folks seeking to buy used "Budget" mobile devices on launch days costing next to nothing.

awodman: The automotive policy is not about "new cars"..we are talking about reducing capital flight, reducing employment , boosting our local technology, amidst other things

jmaine: By your presumed intelligent post . . .This noble investment plan is useless since We already have new cars on sales in Nigeria abi ?

jmaine: A while ago people were mocking the Presidency for introducing a policy without getting the major players involved. More like pulling the cart before the horse.

But brother awodman countered them by replaying Aganga confident assertion on that thread and this news just confirmed that.

So why shouldn't i smiled at the expense of gremlins strictly in the big business of criticizing the FG at all cost.

solomon111: Where're all those short-sighted people faulting the president for banning used cars?
President GEJ would have made a very fine president of the SE/SS nation.
He's too good for Nigeria.

texazzpete: We want people like you and the politicians in power to use their brains and think! We want the Government to encourage local production...such can EASILY be done with schemes like tax rebates, reduced import duties for parts importation and even free ad airtime on National TV and Radio station. What the FG has done is to make it even more unattractive to import the modern, fuel efficient and safer vehicles our roads are CRYING for...and to what benefit? To 'encourage' one businessman who assembles vehicles on a small scale, vehicles that many Nigerians rightly are yet to decide to patronise over durability, longevity and safety?

Let Innoson et al continue to sell their cars and establish their brand. let them compete against the established players. They cannot compete on quality, let them compete on price.

I know paid propagandists like yourself do not do any legitimate work...but let me tell you how this operates. Nigeria is filled with millions of people who work from morning to night to make a living. These people work VERY hard, are paid salaries which are then TAXED by the Federal Government. When they go home, they often have to generate their own power, pump their own water and pay for local security. Then this same delinquent FG turns around and deliberately makes it HARDER for them to buy a vehicle they truly like, in favor of a local automaker that has not even made a very serious effort to tell him why the cars assembled locally are worth his hard earned naira.

This is not about "Nigerians think anything foreign is better". We are not talking about clothes or shoes where that may apply. In the eyes of most Nigerians, Honda/Toyota >>> Innoson.

solomon111: Sorry,there's no reason why local assembled cars will not be cheaper in the long-run.
We have cheaper labour and lower taxes compared to all these western countries.
And there's strong indications,that the power sector will drastically improve.
And no,the govt is not banning tokunbo cars.
They're still available.

solomon111: we cannot wait till we have 247 electricity,before we carry out steps like this.
The world is not going to wait for us.
There's already reforms and improvements in the power sector and i believe with time,we will get sufficient.
And yes,the FG should patronize local manufacturers,which they've already started doing with their parastatals and agencies.