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Christianity EtcRe: S’africa Orders Chirst Embassy Church To Stop Faith Healing Ads by Azibalua(f): 11:56pm On Feb 09, 2011
@ nuclearboy no boy

Night of bliss south africa,
Be there
The blind will see, the lame will walk, HIV cases will receive healing and lots more

Wait oh are you sure you can afford the ticket,since you believe a Christian can also be poor

grin grin grin grin
You go vex tire
Christianity EtcRe: Why Tithes Are Important by Azibalua(f): 9:01pm On Feb 09, 2011
Are you trying to say christ is not our high priest according to the order of Melchizedek?
How often do you receive?
Christianity EtcRe: Why Tithes Are Important by Azibalua(f): 6:49pm On Feb 09, 2011
chukwudi44:
How does this answer any of my questions? were did melchizedek say any one coud receive tithes on his behalf? How often should this tithes be paid ? kindly provide biblical answers for the above questions
[bros read your bible,if you have one
Christianity EtcRe: Pastor Chris oyakhilome: Don’t Excuse Sickness! by Azibalua(f): 5:46pm On Feb 09, 2011
nuclearboy:
Why ask "rumour mongers"?

Kill the rumours here quicky andd tell us what killed the man so we know. Then a small assignment - checkout the pastors, apostles etc who had cancer, diabetes, vehicle accidents etc. Please go through the list carefully and remember your pastor himself has a leg condition that causes him pain.

With that in mind, tell us illness is a choice or limited to babes so we know all the above are babes
Good to know you don't have the right information whatsoever and are only trying to hear the truth from us, but you failed.
We no go talk
Christianity EtcRe: Why Tithes Are Important by Azibalua(f): 5:35pm On Feb 09, 2011
Hebrews 7:6-8
6 This man, however, did not trace his descent from Levi, yet he collected a tenth from Abraham and blessed him who had the promises. 7 And without doubt the lesser person is blessed by the greater. 8 In the one case, the tenth is collected by men who die; but in the other case, by him who is declared to be living.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Is Pastor Chris A Fraud? by Azibalua(f): 4:56pm On Feb 09, 2011
nuclearboy:
Chased from Naija airwaves then chasedfrom SA airwaves. In between, shown over and over as a fraud who doctors "miracles".
But Africa won't be the same again?  shocked

Yeah, very soon - cos the fake's time ids up & he will presently expire
I laugh haaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaa  grin cool grin

Chased frm  naija airwaves ? Says who?

Maybe you are not patriotic and so do not have time for our TV stations you would have seen our programsFLOGGING the airwaves

The NBC ( national broadcasting coporation)only said they wanted programs where the miracles were verified to be aired and that's what we gave them.

Have you heard of ATMOSPHERE FOR FAITH ? I guess not
Let me enlighten you: this is a program where we have individuals come and testify how they received their miracle,and  these miracles are verified. You can check it out ,it's on AIT and Yes oh NTA and other stations, which village are you in? Say it I will get the time of the program for you.

Chased from SA airwaves? Says who?
Am sure you are not aware of LOVEWORLDSAT

The more you talk no sorry cough the bigger we get

Tell me you did not watch the 31st night service via the airwaves it was all over the whole world
Christianity EtcRe: Why Is Pastor Chris A Fraud? by Azibalua(f): 4:48pm On Feb 09, 2011
LoveKing:
He should have changed nigeria first right? what happened to charity beginning from home?
my guy shove it. you know thats a lie.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This country has changed greatly my dear
Check out the mindset of the youths after the youth confferences,
Christianity EtcRe: S’africa Orders Chirst Embassy Church To Stop Faith Healing Ads by Azibalua(f): 4:11pm On Feb 09, 2011
@ nuclearboy
1. We can't stoop so low as to give you your heart desire
2. Unlike you we don't sit down and grade men of god because we have a high level of respect for them
3. Serious Christians are busy winning their world for christ and all you do is sit down and compose a list of what you think is the standard to judge a man of god,check out your low level

You are really jobless
Christianity EtcRe: Why Tithes Are Important by Azibalua(f): 4:04pm On Feb 09, 2011
KunleOshob:
@Azibaula
If he[melchizedek] is still alive, can you tell us were we can find him? I am sure his views would be invaluable on this tithing racket since you guys love to use his one off example to justify the racket.
Ye pls am sure his views will not be biased like yours,
Christianity EtcRe: Why Tithes Are Important by Azibalua(f): 3:59pm On Feb 09, 2011
what point are u ttrying to make? are today's pastors levites?why should they be entitled to tithes?
Pastors are not Levites, the levitical priesthood ended with the resurrection of christ.

the jewish law of tithes stipulates that levithical tithes should be paid once every three years ,why do you want to change the frequency  by your self besides am yet to see any pastor in Nigeria claiming descent from the jewish tribe of levi.
Tithing has nothing to do with the law as I earlier stated,taking an example from the patriarch Abraham, he gave a tithe of all he had gotten from his victory,it was not a seasonal event,it was based on what he got

Genesis 14:17-20
17 After his[ Abram's] return from the defeat and slaying of Chedorlaomer and the kings who were with him, the king of Sodom went out to meet him at the Valley of Shaveh, that is, the King's Valley. 18 Melchizedek king of Salem[ later called Jerusalem] brought out bread and wine[ for their nourishment]; he was the priest of God Most High, 19 And he blessed him and said, Blessed( favored with blessings, made blissful, joyful) be Abram by God Most High, Possessor and Maker of heaven and earth, 20 And blessed, praised, and glorified be God Most High, Who has given your foes into your hand! And[ Abram] gave him a tenth of all[ he had taken]. 
.
Even how many times did Abraham pay tithes to melchizedek ? Did melchizedek demand tithes from him?Abrahanm's tithes was paid just once and done out of his own volition.
Na wá oh,even common sense should tell you that when you do things right consistently you will not need to be reminded,it is only when you err,that you will need to be called back to order.

Apostle paul choose to give up this right of RECIEVING hence following Matthew 23;23 that loving others as one of the most important principles in life. He did this by not focusing on what is best of HIM, but on what is "BEST FOR OTHERS".  This principle is based on PASTOR - TO MEMBERS and must be applied appropriately
Why can't your greedy pastors do likewise.
I know a lot of pastors who have sacrificed all they have to ensure that their members have,I know of pastors who are involved with setting up businesses for their members,I know of pastors who empty their pockets totally for others .I can say so much more.
But this does not take the place of them telling the members the truth,it's rather an action based on the word that we must do good to all especially to those of the household of faith
Christianity EtcRe: Why Tithes Are Important by Azibalua(f): 3:14pm On Feb 09, 2011
Zikkyy:
And who told you Melchizedek lives forever? your pastor? abeg stop this nonsense angry I can see you chose to abadon Christ and subject yourself to Melchizedek priesthood. Melchizedek is now your high priest, good for you.
What were you told, that he died?
Hmmmm so when did he die and where pls.
Christianity EtcRe: Pastor Chris oyakhilome: Don’t Excuse Sickness! by Azibalua(f): 2:31pm On Feb 09, 2011
SirJohn:
What killed your pastors father??
Rumours destroy people oh,
Tell me what did you hear that they said killed him.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Is Pastor Chris A Fraud? by Azibalua(f): 7:31pm On Feb 08, 2011
mabell:
This sounds familiar
@Loveking, you once said you wanted to apply for the post of the antichrist!
I hope your reason for this thread is genuine cheesy
I am not surprised
Anyway it's not a new thing,to call pastor chris a fraud,it's not news anymore
What's news is the night of bliss holding in the soccer city south africa on the 11th of march and like pastor chris said


' AFRICA WILL NEVER BE THE SAME AGAIN'
Christianity EtcRe: Why Tithes Are Important by Azibalua(f): 7:13pm On Feb 08, 2011
Tithing has nothing to do with the law

Abraham paid tithes (before the law came)to melchisedec who lives forever

Genesis 14:18-20
18 And Melchizedek king of Salem brought forth bread and wine: and he[ was] the priest of the most high God. 19 And he blessed him, and said, Blessed[ be] Abram of the most high God, possessor of heaven and earth: 20 And blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand. And he gave him tithes of all.
 


Jesus christ is our high priest in the order of Melchizedek

Hebrews 5:5-6
5 So also Christ glorified not himself to be made an high priest; but he that said unto him, Thou art my Son, to day have I begotten thee. 6 As he saith also in another[ place], Thou[ art] a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec


Hebrews 5:10
10 Being a designated and recognized and saluted by God as High Priest after the order( with b the rank) of Melchizedek.


This is the simplest way to explain this to ignorant people like you

If you don't pay your tithe, you are a ROBBER simple
Christianity EtcRe: A Prayer For A Financial Blessing by Azibalua(f): 2:09pm On Feb 08, 2011
Pay yor tithes ,and you won't need that prayer,
You would rather thank god for his blessings
Christianity EtcRe: S’africa Orders Chirst Embassy Church To Stop Faith Healing Ads by Azibalua(f): 2:06pm On Feb 08, 2011
Jesus christ the same yesterday today and forever







newmi:
Please my dear how else should it be practised----------------------------------

Mark 1:40-42
"And there came a leper to him, and kneeling down to him, and saying unto him, if thou wit, thou canst make me clean. And Jesus, moved with compassion, put forth his hand, and touched him, and saith unto him, l will; be thou clean. And as soon as he had spoken, immediately the leprosy departed from him, and he was cleansed".

Mark 2:10-12
"But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins (he saith to the sick of the palsy) l say unto thee, Arise, and take up thy bed, and go thy way into thine house. And immediately he arose, took up the bed, and went forth before them all; insomuch that they were all amazed and glorified God, saying, We never saw it on this fashion".

Mark 7:33-35
"And he took him aside from the multitude, and put his fingers into his ears, and he spit(hmmmm), and touched his tongue; And looking up to heaven, he sighed, and saith unto him, Ephphatha, that is, Be opened. And straightway his ears were opened, and the string of his tongue was loosed, and he spake plain (somebody that was deaf now speaks PLAINLY)"

Mark 8:23
"And he took the bline man by the hand, and led him out of the town; and when he had SPIT(hmmmm) on his eyes, and put his hands upon him, he asked him if he saw ought. And he looked up, and said, l see men as trees, walking. After that he put his hands again upon his eyes, and made him look up: and he was restored, and saw every man clearly".

John 9:6-7
"When he had thus spoken, he spat on the ground, and made clay of the spittle, and he anointed the eyes of the blind man with the clay, And said unto him, Go, wash in the pool of Siloam, (which is by interpretation, Sent) He went his way therefore, and washed, and came seeing".

Please time will fail me Read these scripture
John 9
John 7

Acts 3:7
"And he took him by the right hand, and lifted him up: and immediately his feet and ankle bones received strength and he leaping up stood, and walked, and enetred with them into the temple, walking, and leaping, and praising God"

Acts 5:16
"There came also a multitude out of the cities round about unto Jerusalem, bringing sick folks, and them which weere vexed with unclean spirits: and they were healed every one"

Acts 9:34
"And peter said unto him, Aeneas, Jesus Christ maketh thee whole: arise, and make thy bed. And he arose immediately"

Acts 16:18
"And this did she many days. But Paul, being grieved, turned and said to the spirit, l command the in the anme of Jesus Christ to come out of her. And he came out the same hour"

Acts 19:12
"So that from his body were brought unto the sick hankerchiefs or aprons, and the disease departed from them, and the evil spirit went out of them"

Acts 28:8
"And it came to pass, that the father of Publius lay sick of a fever and of a bloody flux: to whom Paul entered in, and prayed, and laid his hands on him, and healed him"

John 11:47-48
"Then gathered the cjief preist and the Pharisees a council, and said What do we? for this man doeth many miracles. If we let thus alone, all men will believe on him---"

These men were Jews and in their own word "---children of Abraham----" yet in the sincerity of their ignorance they opposed him many of you won't do any different if you were in their days because that is exactly what you do today

The bible says "----ye err because ye know not the scriptures---"
Christianity EtcRe: Why Tithes Are Important by Azibalua(f): 1:54pm On Feb 08, 2011
Demain_man:
Who tell you say tithe dey important? You guy man pastor? They deceive yourself there if you think you can bribe God almighty.
Tithing has nothing to do with what you feel like giving to god
It is a compulsion for every Christian and is mandatory
Anyone who does not tithe is a ROBBER

Malachi 3:8
Will a man rob god,yet ye have robbed me.
But ye say wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings
Christianity EtcRe: Pastor Chris oyakhilome: Don’t Excuse Sickness! by Azibalua(f): 1:44pm On Feb 08, 2011
KunleOshob:
@sirjohn
I don't why you bother to respond to these sick nut heads, can't you see they desprately need help? I would rather you pray for them so that they can be released from the yoke/curse/delusion of oyakhilome.
1. We don't fall sick
2. You need serious help
3. There are some prayers that are not necessary,god does not even listen to them
4. You have started showing some respect meaning you have been reading the posts,don't worry gradually you will realise the truth of gods word,except if like pharaoh you have been created for destruction.
I hope not sincerely
Christianity EtcRe: Pastor Chris oyakhilome: Don’t Excuse Sickness! by Azibalua(f): 1:36pm On Feb 08, 2011
Hosea 4:6
6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.
cry grin

The level of ignorance you have displayed is embarrassing considering that you profess christ.the truth is quite painful mostly when you have had a tough experience.
But the word of god still stands no matter what the experience is

THE LIFE OF GOD DOES NOT FALL SICK
grin grin grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by Azibalua(f): 1:23pm On Feb 08, 2011
Sir John
{At least he sent them for independent verification unlike CE.}


Verified by priests
Interesting to note that we are kings and priest unto god 

Revelation 5:10
10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests:
Christianity EtcRe: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by Azibalua(f): 12:37pm On Feb 08, 2011
LoveKing:
My advice is this. If you claim to have a miracle, go for medical check up. dont be a mental slave.
Medical check up did I hear you say?
Interesting to note that even Jesus people to go to the priest

Luke 17:14
14 And when He saw them, He said to them, Go[ at once] and show yourselves to the priests. And as they went, they were cured and made clean
.
 
How come he did not send them to physicians
Christianity EtcRe: Pastor Chris oyakhilome: Don’t Excuse Sickness! by Azibalua(f): 11:34am On Feb 08, 2011
Sir John
[color=Black].My dear, the sooner you step out of this delusion the better for you. you are not God and can never be; that God has called you to share in his life does not make you God. The above statement in red is ridiculous to say the least; okay tell me, since you have Gods divine nature, do you have his omnipotence? do you have his all 'knowingness'? can you declare the thoughts of all men at once? you're simply delusional.[/color]

1. God is not sharing his life with us,he gave us his life
[color=#990000]John 6:48
48 I am the Bread of Life[ that gives life -- the Living Bread].
[/color]

1 John 5:11-12
11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. 12 He that hath the Son hath life;[ and] he that hath not the Son of God hath not life. 


2.of course we have all of gods knowingness
1 John 2:20
20 But you have been anointed by[ you hold a sacred appointment from, you have been given an unction from] the Holy One, and you all know[ the Truth] or you know all things

 
Matthew 13:11
11 And He replied to them, To you it has been given to know the secrets and mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been given.


To argue that it is okay for a Christian to fall sick, is simply horrible,christ came and gave us his life,the life of god cannot be sick it's crazy to think this.

We were not given a part of the life of god we were given all.
 
[quote][/quote]
Christianity EtcRe: Afm With Pastor Chris Oyahkhilome by Azibalua(f): 11:33am On Feb 07, 2011
Mark 16:16-20
16 He who believes[ who adheres to and trusts in and relies on the Gospel and Him Whom it sets forth] and is baptized will be saved[ a from the penalty of eternal death]; but he who does not believe[ who does not adhere to and trust in and rely on the Gospel and Him Whom it sets forth] will be condemned. 17 And these attesting signs will accompany those who believe: in My name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new languages; 18 They will pick up serpents; and[ even] if they drink anything deadly, it will not hurt them; they will lay their hands on the sick, and they will get well. 19 So then the Lord Jesus, after He had spoken to them, was taken up into heaven and He sat down at the right hand of God. a 20 And they went out and preached everywhere, while the Lord kept working with them and confirming the message by the attesting signs and miracles that closely accompanied[ it]. Amen( so be it).
Christianity EtcRe: Afm With Pastor Chris Oyahkhilome by Azibalua(f): 4:36pm On Feb 05, 2011
@sir John
I've heard this story time and time again but what I keep asking is: where are his daughters? theres this news about his daughter having a brain condition, is that why he hides them from the public?

Maybe if you stop listening to rumours and start listening more to gods word,the answers you seek will come to you

@noetic16
do u know what soul winning is?

Soulwinning is when A believer leads an unbeliever to christ by preaching the gospel to him and then leading him in the prayer of salvation.it could be done in various ways and has no limitation whatsoever, also it's easy and I know this cos I partake in it often
Christianity EtcRe: S’africa Orders Chirst Embassy Church To Stop Faith Healing Ads by Azibalua(f): 4:24pm On Feb 05, 2011
Luke 8:43,51-55- 9:2
43 And a woman having an issue of blood twelve years, which had spent all her living upon physicians, neither could be healed of any, 44 Came behind[ him], and touched the border of his garment: and immediately her issue of blood stanched. it], 51 And when he came into the house, he suffered no man to go in, save Peter, and James, and John, and the father and the mother of the maiden. 52 And all wept, and bewailed her: but he said, Weep not; she is not dead, but sleepeth. 53 And they laughed him to scorn, knowing that she was dead. 54 And he put them all out, and took her by the hand, and called, saying, Maid, arise. 55 And her spirit came again, and she arose straightway: and he commanded to give her meat.


Who says miracles cannot be instantaneous
And as Christians we have been given what we need to cause miracles to abound


Chapter 9:1-2
1 Then he called his twelve disciples together, and gave them power and authority over all devils, and to cure diseases. 2 And he sent them to preach the kingdom of God, and to heal the sick.
Christianity EtcRe: Can An Unbeliever Pray To God by Azibalua(f): 6:28pm On Feb 04, 2011
I think inedi is referring to one one who has confessed christ as his lord and saviour as a believer and the opposite for an unbeliever.
Christianity EtcRe: Should Pastors In Nigeria Pay Tax? by Azibalua(f): 6:02pm On Feb 04, 2011
pawa4ul:
What will the Govt. use in developing the roads leading to these their churches ([color=#990000][b]cos these churches don't even embark on any community based developments). Going by PAYE, some Pastors will pay up to N1m monthly as tax.
Govt is really loosing money by pastors not paying tax. The poor people do not have any facilities to enjoy, but the pastors live in luxury and affluence. THEY SHOULD PAY THEIR TAX,.[/color][/b]
Ambulance donated to the Lagos state government,laptops and printers given to the state police and road safety command,water project in warri,state prison furnished with computers and a chapel built in port harcourt, police patrol vans given to the Lagos state government and lots more done around the country for the reach out Nigeria project
Christianity EtcRe: S’africa Orders Chirst Embassy Church To Stop Faith Healing Ads by Azibalua(f): 4:40pm On Feb 04, 2011
cold:
grin  grin  grin omg,Kunlee go now & rcv your miracles.You don't knw what you're missing  grin
On the real tho,whilst this man is a reknowned con man. Who do we blame for this massive fraud;the man of con, sorry God or the gullible followers of a fraud running after him in search of miracles?I feel for my people
Why not allow him to go in since he believes so much that miracles do not exist, am sure when he comes out he will recommend the next programme to you.
Christianity EtcRe: S’africa Orders Chirst Embassy Church To Stop Faith Healing Ads by Azibalua(f): 3:15pm On Feb 04, 2011
Miracles are real,
A miracle is a supernatural intervention of god
I have seen lots of them including people healed of AIDS
Research for the cure of the virus is still ongoing
But god does not carry out research he does not need to cos he does not function by the ways of man
The ban of the ads does not stop miracles from occurring and does not cause the turn out to the healing school e.t.c to drop
No one not even a government can stop the work of god

Acts 5:38-39
38 And now I say unto you, Refrain from these men, and let them alone: for if this counsel or this work be of men, it will be overthrown: 39 but if it is of God, ye will not be able to overthrow them; lest haply ye be found even to be fighting
against God.


a country where about 5% or more of the entire populace is infected with the HIV virus what they need is the word of god

Moreso I know first handedly that you are not told to stop taking drugs after the healing sessions but it depends on the faith of the individual

We all have different levels of faith
So what is best for one may not be perfect for the other depending on their faith

Medically we have seen individuals with the HIV virus respond to treatment while some others do not maybe due to the individuals system or the efficacy of the drug involved,e.t.c

But god functions by the faith of the individual .
Christianity EtcRe: Questions? Comments? Complaints? Talk To The Moderators Here by Azibalua(f): 4:15pm On Jan 31, 2011
@ jesoul
Thanks a zillion

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