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modath:and please don't even feel bad about anything for if you hadn't cried out with smart and irrefutable evidences, I swerigod ehn you for de lick your wounds now Mo.......I watched from the sidelines |
amicable09:coughs.. . ... grammatically emotional. Still looking for money to bank with Vera's employer. I can see you are good. |
Questionable source, nonetheless PMB has shown unflinching loyalty to the integrity of Nigeria by declaring publicly that he was sick, handed over properly and constitutionally before going on a medical leave unlike PDP and her hirelings crying blood presently : pretentious anti democratic rogues that plunged the country into crisis when similar case presented itself. Isn't that PMB led struggle that made ungrateful shoeless acting president in 2010? So animals, PDP, can teach PMB democratic culture. Whenever, whatever, welcome back Baba -the antidote to enemies of Nigeria. |
what about the man in the mirror? |
Hian ,OP just dey kill grammar and I can tell you authoritarianly! |
Goodluck Jonathan And The
Ostrich Game By Peter Claver
Oparah
Goodluck Ebele Jonathan -
remember him? He is the same
man that was offloaded off power
here some two light years ago. He
is still the bumbling man
perpetually living in denial, even
in the face of egregious evidences
of failure. He is still the same
person who said he went to
school without shoes yet when
asked to declare his assets, after
some few years in power, he
declined and thundered ‘I don’t
give a damn!’.
BY PETER CLAVER OPARAH
AUG 14, 2017
G oodluck Ebele Jonathan -
remember him? He is the same
man that was offloaded off power
here some two light years ago. He
is still the bumbling man
perpetually living in denial, even
in the face of egregious evidences
of failure. He is still the same
person who said he went to
school without shoes yet when
asked to declare his assets, after
some few years in power, he
declined and thundered ‘I don’t
give a damn!’. He is still the same
man who, as president, shocked
the nation when he declared the
stealing is not corruption,
wondering why people were
making comparison between
‘ordinary stealing’ and
‘corruption’. He is still the same
fellow who harvested tremendous,
unparalleled revenue in a
providential oil boom and frittered
the hefty accrual, which exceeded
the combined revenue made by all
previous governments before his.
He is the same man who gave no
damn that his cronies and those
of his party men freely and
impudently raided the national
treasury and salted away mind-
bugling amounts under his
pernicious watch. He has cut a
mark for himself for always
burying his head in the sand when
you expect him to be a man. He
plays deaf and dumb in the hefty
indiscretions and corrupt acts that
have been linked to his men and
subalterns. He creates the mien of
an inscrutable man who lives with
unimaginably corrupt people. He
does not betray any qualms
trading this paradoxical picture
because his favorite pet must be
an ostrich.
Last week, Jonathan made a
cameo appearance at a PDP
meeting and as he was wont to do
since he was offloaded from
power, devoted the entire time he
was on their stage, beating and
dancing to his own drum. To him,
he was the best thing that
happened to Nigeria. He said that
when he was here, the country
was awash with bountiful
blessings; everybody was secure,
food was aplenty, inflation was
nonexistent, corruption was
exterminated, poverty was
banished, etc. You will wonder
which country Jonathan was
rambling about. You even wonder
if life was as bountiful as he tried
to make it look, why was Jonathan
voted out by millions of
enthusiastic Nigerians just two
years ago even in the face of very
desperate measures he and his
hirelings took to stick to power?
Perhaps, to Jonathan, Nigerians
made a mistake to end his
‘glorious’ era and of course, he
must have been talking to a
country living in regret for voting
his golden era out.
Let’s be clear. Jonathan has every
right to bolster his image,
especially in the face of the
humbling he received in March
2015. With the horrific picture of
wanton and egregious plundering
that happened under Jonathan,
assaulting the public space since
he left, it was just charitable that
he said, tongue-in-cheek that his
regime failed to plug all loopholes
for corruption. That means that he
plugged some loopholes if we are
to believe his moonlight revelry.
That he even made that
admittance was an afterthought
especially in the light of the
horrendous evidences of
corruption that has continued to
waft out from his regime. To
Jonathan and his disciples, to
whom he was directing his feel-
good epistle, that was a cheery
story, but to millions of Nigerians,
still reeling from Jonathan’s
gargantuan misrule, those were
stories for the gods. Fact is that
try as he and his cronies may
wish to, Jonathan ran a
brigandage where tremendous
providential resources that would
have lifted Nigeria from its present
atrophy, were salted and stolen by
his unconscionable cronies while
he looked on. Truth is that Nigeria
had enough resources to take it to
the zenith of development under
Jonathan but he presided over a
total despoliation of the country
as his moonlighting lasted.
A nation that understands its
onions would have, by now, be
calculating the costs of the
brigandage and vandalism which
Jonathan supervised in Nigeria for
nearly six years. For that period,
Jonathan harvested enough
resources to take Nigeria into the
first world when oil, the mainstay
of our economy went as high as
over $120 per barrel and Nigeria
exported over 2.5 million barrels
every day. Jonathan inherited a
rich foreign reserve of well over $
64 billion and an Excess Crude
Account in excess of $12billion.
In the period when Jonathan was
president, no new roads were
constructed. The ones that were
existing decayed out of existence.
No new railways were
constructed. No model hospitals
were constructed. No new airports
were constructed. Unemployment
soared to the extent that it took a
call for recruitment of 3,000 staff
by the Nigerian Immigration
Services for millions of Nigerians
to fill all stadia and open spaces
in the country after being extorted
of a compulsory fee running into
billions of Naira. In the ensuing
stampede for space, over 20 of
these youths were trampled to
death and no one got employed in
the long run. Inflation? It was a
soaring affair as the rate of
inflation climbed to a double digit
when Nigeria was swimming in
billions of petro dollars. What
more, Jonathan left power with the
country’s power generation
capacity at below 1,000MW, and
23 states clearly on the throes of
anarchy as several months of
unpaid workers’ salaries
threatened to unleash violent
crisis all over Nigeria as Jonathan
and his band left power in 2015.
Jonathan’s ‘sound economic
team’ told awe-stricken Nigerians
before the March general election
that it had to borrow nearly half a
trillion Naira to pay federal civil
servants’ salaries. Yet, crude oil
sold for $60.30 the day Jonathan
handed over; a price it had never
reached for the period Buhari has
presided over our affairs yet
Buhari not only released a huge
bailout to clear the hefty amount
of salaries states accumulated in
the oil boom era of Jonathan and
has followed it up with periodic
releases to make the states
solvent. As for security, yes,
Jonathan is so shameless as to
flaunt a situation where he was
living in perpetual scare of Boko
Haram in Aso Rock, which made
unchallenged constant bloody
raids in the nation’s capital after
seizing a fifth of Nigeria’s
territory. It is as bizarre as it is
tragic! While he surrendered the
security of Nigeria to Boko Haram
and sundry other gang lords, his
National Security Adviser was
sharing a huge sum of $2.1 billion
voted for security to all manners
of PDP aficionados.
I am not trying to rebut the torrid
of humongous claims Jonathan
and his cronies continue to make
to dupe our senses. Rather, I want
to just take a peek at the persona
of Jonathan; a simpleton who
relishes playing the ostrich in his
delusional feeling that Nigerians
are afflicted with short memory.
Fact is that Jonathan and his
reveling PDP compatriots know
that they are living a lie of what
they really represent in Nigeria
and what Nigerians think of them.
They know the horrible place they
occupy in the hearts of Nigerians
who are still smarting from the
vicious liabilities of the PDP era.
They know that even as they try to
take chance with Nigerians’
memories that everybody knows
the ignoble role the PDP and
Jonathan played in this country.
They know that Nigerians know
the hefty cost, the wasted
opportunities and the missed
chances we incurred when
Jonathan and his men were
vandalizing the country to the
bones. They know that Nigerians
know that Nigeria would have
become great if we had an
accountable leadership that
utilized well the close to N100
trillion oil earnings, the hefty $64
billion foreign reserves, the $12
billion Excess Crude Account
which Jonathan and cronies
looted and ran Nigeria into
recession. Perhaps with the
exception of Venezuela, no other
major oil producer ran into the
kind of storm Jonathan and co ran
Nigeria such that when oil prices
crashed as President Buhari was
taking over, every other oil rich
country dipped into its rich
savings to mitigate the effects. For
Nigeria, everything was stolen;
courtesy of Jonathan and co who
‘didn’t plug all loopholes of
corruption’. Pray which one did
Jonathan plug? Nigeria is where
we are today because Jonathan
and his lickspittles where were his
exclusive cheerleaders as he
makes his naked dance, ate our
yesterday, our today and our
tomorrow when bizarre stealing
replaced statecraft.
However, if PDP feels Nigerians
have forgotten where the present
rain started beating them, they
have a huge opportunity to stage
a referendum of the Jonathan
regime. This they will do by
presenting him for the 2019
presidential contest. Yes, if they
believe in the lie they told
themselves and those whose
senses they have looted that
Jonathan did very well, let them
put Jonathan on their ballot for
2019. Not that it matters who they
present for 2019 but putting
Jonathan on the ballot will help
them get a clearer picture of how
Nigerians feel about the regime
vis-à-vis the present regime.
Jonathan should spare what
remains of his saliva and throw
his hat into the ring if he and what
remains of PDP believes in the
lies they regurgitate to themselves
that he did well in power. Let the
PDP simply exhume Goodluck
Jonathan and present him to
Nigerians on its 2019 ticket as the
best they have for the presidency
on the mantra that he did so well
for the six years he was here and
let Nigerians vote, if in real terms
they have forgotten the lessons of
March 28, 2015. That is the best
way to walk one’s talk than
indulging in self-delusive revelry
of futile creation which Jonathan
and his hirelings have made their
favorite pastimes, since they were
dismissed from power.
Peter Claver Oparah writes from
Ikeja, Lagos. You can reach him at
peterclaver2000@yahoo.com |
Goodluck Jonathan And The
Ostrich Game By Peter Claver
Oparah
Goodluck Ebele Jonathan -
remember him? He is the same
man that was offloaded off power
here some two light years ago. He
is still the bumbling man
perpetually living in denial, even
in the face of egregious evidences
of failure. He is still the same
person who said he went to
school without shoes yet when
asked to declare his assets, after
some few years in power, he
declined and thundered ‘I don’t
give a damn!’.
BY PETER CLAVER OPARAH
AUG 14, 2017
G oodluck Ebele Jonathan -
remember him? He is the same
man that was offloaded off power
here some two light years ago. He
is still the bumbling man
perpetually living in denial, even
in the face of egregious evidences
of failure. He is still the same
person who said he went to
school without shoes yet when
asked to declare his assets, after
some few years in power, he
declined and thundered ‘I don’t
give a damn!’. He is still the same
man who, as president, shocked
the nation when he declared the
stealing is not corruption,
wondering why people were
making comparison between
‘ordinary stealing’ and
‘corruption’. He is still the same
fellow who harvested tremendous,
unparalleled revenue in a
providential oil boom and frittered
the hefty accrual, which exceeded
the combined revenue made by all
previous governments before his.
He is the same man who gave no
damn that his cronies and those
of his party men freely and
impudently raided the national
treasury and salted away mind-
bugling amounts under his
pernicious watch. He has cut a
mark for himself for always
burying his head in the sand when
you expect him to be a man. He
plays deaf and dumb in the hefty
indiscretions and corrupt acts that
have been linked to his men and
subalterns. He creates the mien of
an inscrutable man who lives with
unimaginably corrupt people. He
does not betray any qualms
trading this paradoxical picture
because his favorite pet must be
an ostrich.
Last week, Jonathan made a
cameo appearance at a PDP
meeting and as he was wont to do
since he was offloaded from
power, devoted the entire time he
was on their stage, beating and
dancing to his own drum. To him,
he was the best thing that
happened to Nigeria. He said that
when he was here, the country
was awash with bountiful
blessings; everybody was secure,
food was aplenty, inflation was
nonexistent, corruption was
exterminated, poverty was
banished, etc. You will wonder
which country Jonathan was
rambling about. You even wonder
if life was as bountiful as he tried
to make it look, why was Jonathan
voted out by millions of
enthusiastic Nigerians just two
years ago even in the face of very
desperate measures he and his
hirelings took to stick to power?
Perhaps, to Jonathan, Nigerians
made a mistake to end his
‘glorious’ era and of course, he
must have been talking to a
country living in regret for voting
his golden era out.
Let’s be clear. Jonathan has every
right to bolster his image,
especially in the face of the
humbling he received in March
2015. With the horrific picture of
wanton and egregious plundering
that happened under Jonathan,
assaulting the public space since
he left, it was just charitable that
he said, tongue-in-cheek that his
regime failed to plug all loopholes
for corruption. That means that he
plugged some loopholes if we are
to believe his moonlight revelry.
That he even made that
admittance was an afterthought
especially in the light of the
horrendous evidences of
corruption that has continued to
waft out from his regime. To
Jonathan and his disciples, to
whom he was directing his feel-
good epistle, that was a cheery
story, but to millions of Nigerians,
still reeling from Jonathan’s
gargantuan misrule, those were
stories for the gods. Fact is that
try as he and his cronies may
wish to, Jonathan ran a
brigandage where tremendous
providential resources that would
have lifted Nigeria from its present
atrophy, were salted and stolen by
his unconscionable cronies while
he looked on. Truth is that Nigeria
had enough resources to take it to
the zenith of development under
Jonathan but he presided over a
total despoliation of the country
as his moonlighting lasted.
A nation that understands its
onions would have, by now, be
calculating the costs of the
brigandage and vandalism which
Jonathan supervised in Nigeria for
nearly six years. For that period,
Jonathan harvested enough
resources to take Nigeria into the
first world when oil, the mainstay
of our economy went as high as
over $120 per barrel and Nigeria
exported over 2.5 million barrels
every day. Jonathan inherited a
rich foreign reserve of well over $
64 billion and an Excess Crude
Account in excess of $12billion.
In the period when Jonathan was
president, no new roads were
constructed. The ones that were
existing decayed out of existence.
No new railways were
constructed. No model hospitals
were constructed. No new airports
were constructed. Unemployment
soared to the extent that it took a
call for recruitment of 3,000 staff
by the Nigerian Immigration
Services for millions of Nigerians
to fill all stadia and open spaces
in the country after being extorted
of a compulsory fee running into
billions of Naira. In the ensuing
stampede for space, over 20 of
these youths were trampled to
death and no one got employed in
the long run. Inflation? It was a
soaring affair as the rate of
inflation climbed to a double digit
when Nigeria was swimming in
billions of petro dollars. What
more, Jonathan left power with the
country’s power generation
capacity at below 1,000MW, and
23 states clearly on the throes of
anarchy as several months of
unpaid workers’ salaries
threatened to unleash violent
crisis all over Nigeria as Jonathan
and his band left power in 2015.
Jonathan’s ‘sound economic
team’ told awe-stricken Nigerians
before the March general election
that it had to borrow nearly half a
trillion Naira to pay federal civil
servants’ salaries. Yet, crude oil
sold for $60.30 the day Jonathan
handed over; a price it had never
reached for the period Buhari has
presided over our affairs yet
Buhari not only released a huge
bailout to clear the hefty amount
of salaries states accumulated in
the oil boom era of Jonathan and
has followed it up with periodic
releases to make the states
solvent. As for security, yes,
Jonathan is so shameless as to
flaunt a situation where he was
living in perpetual scare of Boko
Haram in Aso Rock, which made
unchallenged constant bloody
raids in the nation’s capital after
seizing a fifth of Nigeria’s
territory. It is as bizarre as it is
tragic! While he surrendered the
security of Nigeria to Boko Haram
and sundry other gang lords, his
National Security Adviser was
sharing a huge sum of $2.1 billion
voted for security to all manners
of PDP aficionados.
I am not trying to rebut the torrid
of humongous claims Jonathan
and his cronies continue to make
to dupe our senses. Rather, I want
to just take a peek at the persona
of Jonathan; a simpleton who
relishes playing the ostrich in his
delusional feeling that Nigerians
are afflicted with short memory.
Fact is that Jonathan and his
reveling PDP compatriots know
that they are living a lie of what
they really represent in Nigeria
and what Nigerians think of them.
They know the horrible place they
occupy in the hearts of Nigerians
who are still smarting from the
vicious liabilities of the PDP era.
They know that even as they try to
take chance with Nigerians’
memories that everybody knows
the ignoble role the PDP and
Jonathan played in this country.
They know that Nigerians know
the hefty cost, the wasted
opportunities and the missed
chances we incurred when
Jonathan and his men were
vandalizing the country to the
bones. They know that Nigerians
know that Nigeria would have
become great if we had an
accountable leadership that
utilized well the close to N100
trillion oil earnings, the hefty $64
billion foreign reserves, the $12
billion Excess Crude Account
which Jonathan and cronies
looted and ran Nigeria into
recession. Perhaps with the
exception of Venezuela, no other
major oil producer ran into the
kind of storm Jonathan and co ran
Nigeria such that when oil prices
crashed as President Buhari was
taking over, every other oil rich
country dipped into its rich
savings to mitigate the effects. For
Nigeria, everything was stolen;
courtesy of Jonathan and co who
‘didn’t plug all loopholes of
corruption’. Pray which one did
Jonathan plug? Nigeria is where
we are today because Jonathan
and his lickspittles where were his
exclusive cheerleaders as he
makes his naked dance, ate our
yesterday, our today and our
tomorrow when bizarre stealing
replaced statecraft.
However, if PDP feels Nigerians
have forgotten where the present
rain started beating them, they
have a huge opportunity to stage
a referendum of the Jonathan
regime. This they will do by
presenting him for the 2019
presidential contest. Yes, if they
believe in the lie they told
themselves and those whose
senses they have looted that
Jonathan did very well, let them
put Jonathan on their ballot for
2019. Not that it matters who they
present for 2019 but putting
Jonathan on the ballot will help
them get a clearer picture of how
Nigerians feel about the regime
vis-à-vis the present regime.
Jonathan should spare what
remains of his saliva and throw
his hat into the ring if he and what
remains of PDP believes in the
lies they regurgitate to themselves
that he did well in power. Let the
PDP simply exhume Goodluck
Jonathan and present him to
Nigerians on its 2019 ticket as the
best they have for the presidency
on the mantra that he did so well
for the six years he was here and
let Nigerians vote, if in real terms
they have forgotten the lessons of
March 28, 2015. That is the best
way to walk one’s talk than
indulging in self-delusive revelry
of futile creation which Jonathan
and his hirelings have made their
favorite pastimes, since they were
dismissed from power.
Peter Claver Oparah writes from
Ikeja, Lagos. You can reach him at
peterclaver2000@yahoo.com |
jpphilips:a dangerous aphrodisiac that is putting the wellbeing of innocent lives and property who never ate from PDP in damn jeopardy. .....already the Northern mirror of ipobs have started a quiet cold war while stewpid ipobs are expecting bullets and gun reactions. Never knew FG was gona be this fast on the ASUU stuff last night when I posted d sledgehammer thing. |
jpphilips:these guys who are being misled by their rogue elites know nothing ,and this deliberate misinfo constipation of ipobs is the real disaster! |
jpphilips:we ain't even excusing the economy but rather going to tell the people those who stole the lifeblood of the economy : money, kept them in toilets, cemeteries, etc rather than in the economy. The sledgehammer of npower, school feeding program, infrastructural dev, Amnesty and other gains in the ND, Boko haram defeat, diversified economy, working refineries, ASUU being happy after all, well utilized recovered loots, stealing becoming corruption, improved international credentials which is already yielding as US is giving us Tuacanos unlike during the ineffective Buffon era ,and many more gains is what we shall hit the rogue paper boat in our political sail in 2019. An opinion poll conducted by the same PDP 2 months ago shows 60% of Nigerians still prefer APC to PDP despite the downturns. yes Gej did well and please let us beg PDP to present him for reelection in 2019. |
tuniski:ba delusion ba. walahi PDP is dead. do you know that the life of PDP was power and it has been taken away from them. who will give them back? |
tuniski:not in this lifetime again, if Buhari won't fix the thieves who have held this nation down by 2019, we help him do it at all costs. PDP is dead! |
tuniski:propaganda that PDP messed the country up ? a new dawn by Gej's PDP that Nigeria dismissed after 16 years of waste? you make me laugh? |
...
Obasanjo, Yar'Adua, Jonathan
wasted N11tn on electricity ...
punchng.com › obasanjo-
yaradua-jonath...
6 days ago · Among other
recommendations, SERAP advised
that federal lawmakers must
desist ...
Blame PDP For Current Hardship
In Nigeria-Lai Mohammed ...
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exclusive
4 Aug 2016 · N40bn double pay:
SERAP welcomes Saraki's move to
stop .... Blame Jonathan, Blame
PDP has become his national
anthem ... After all APC came to
power on a quantum of lies and
Liar ...
SERAP: N11trn electricity fund
was 'squandered' under ...
https://www.thecable.ng › serap-
n11trn-e... |
otitokoroleti:Nope. ...... we hear goats do rape their parents? is it true? |
“Wait a
minute, Nigerian economy could
have collapsed if President Buhari
didn’t come to the rescue.
Jonathan relied on Voodoo
economic records which rated the
Nigerian economy higher than that
of industrialised South African
economy. An economy with
40,000 MW to Nigeria’s less than
4,000MW. This is a hard fact,
otherwise let’s refer to our
financial records to see how the
ex-president and by extension his
party railroaded Nigerians into
abject poverty, food insecurity and
deficit infrastructure via
planlessness and squandermania”.
According to Mr. Okechukwu,
during the Jonathan era, Nigeria in
2010 made $70.7 billion from oil
sale, $100.1 billion in 2011, $96.9
billion in 2012, $86.9 billion in
2013, $77.9 billion in 2014, and $
21 billion from Jan-May 2015,
compared to the Buhari era which
got only $16 billion from June to
December 2015, $26 billion in
2016, and $16 billion from
January to July 2017
Mr Okechukwu further lamented
the wastage of funds amounting
to over $23 billion meant for
building three greenfield refineries
in Kogi, Bayelsa and Lagos in
2010. DG voice of Nigeria, premium Times 2017. |
otitokoroleti:animals cant appreciate human's gists and higher reasoning employed in economics and human management. What do you guys call looting in animal kingdom, baby goat ? I doubt you know such stuffs apart from eating yam peels and grasses. Ewu! |
Trut:did OKonjo iweala say that or not? Why did she say that? trust me we go bath una with rains of facts henceforth and the smell of una ignominious deeds go attract flies of shame follow una till 2019 and beyond. |
bankylan:isn't the same Fulani in Makarfi, ibb ,Dasuki and co that you clueless are worshipping? What destiny can be more destroyed than an ineffectual Buffon of a president unleashing 'stealing is not corruption ' unprecedented heists on his country? What disaster can be more than a C in C sabotaging his own military and national security? |
Wendel Simlin Can only fool fellow fools. Why did Nigerians vote out Gej and PDP? ....because of unprecedented corruption and cluelessness. It was so bad that Gej's finance minister and the coordinator of the economy told us to prepare for recession in 2014 when her ministry started borrowing money to pay salaries. I reproduce her warning below: Brace for tougher times ahead, Okonjo-Iweala tells Nigerians November 14, 2014 Premium Times Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala Nigerians should brace for tougher economic times ahead, the Minister of Finance, Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala, has said as crude oil prices slipped to a four year low on Wednesday. New York Mercantile Exchange (NYMEX) December WTI oil futures sold at $75.20 per barrel on Wednesday, down $1.98, from $ 74.96 per barrel the previous day, the lowest level for a most-active contract since September 2010. Though the price of sweet crude, the blend of oil export from Nigeria, rose marginally at the close of trading on Wednesday to $76.96 per barrel, it has already crashed below the $79 per barrel benchmark approved in the 2014 Appropriation Act, concerns are mounting that tough times are indeed ahead. At the end of the Federation Accounts Allocation Committee (FAAC) meeting for September, Federal, States and Local Governments were only able to go home with N603.5 billion allocation after they resolved to borrow about $2.76 billion from the Excess Crude Revenue Account to augment shortfall in revenue generated during the period. The Federal Government had attributed the declining revenues to the fall in prices at the international oil market. After drawing from the ECA, Minister of State for Finance, Bashir Yuguda, said the balance in the account had dropped further from $4.1 billion to about $1.34 billion at the moment. But Mrs. Okonjo-Iweala said in Lagos on Tuesday that the economic indicators show there are tougher times ahead. Though she said the country’s External Reserves rose from $ 36.6billion at the end of June to $ 39.48billion by October 16, and the balance in the Sovereign Wealth Fund at $1.55billion, accruals from oil exports have been |
Go and remove him ,Mr Akeredolu. |
Strongbest:yes I know you are busy. Our patient is a bit but needs more attention. I lost all my ebooks especially the one containing the herbal rem for prostate. Expecting your reply please. thanks. |
johnw74:why did Jesus weep if Lazarus was in heaven or with God ? isn't heaven the ultimate of all ? you don't understand this religion. |
brocab:explain the verses and not what you think. Besides, didn't Christ tell us that He is God of the living? God of Abraham, Jacob and Isaac? Moses created a snake image for the people to look up to just as the son God has been lifted up for our salvation. The mystery is not for any one who lsnt ready. |
Dollyak:how? |
You can attack the purgatory all you want but explain to me from where did Jesus raise Lazarus after being dead for 4 days since after death ,it is judgement? |
johnw74:until you explain this : Numbers 21. 7-9 The people came to Moses and said, “We sinned when we spoke against the LORD and against you. Pray that the LORD will take the snakes away from us.” So Moses prayed for the people. 8 The LORD said to Moses, “Make a snake and put it up on a pole; anyone who is bitten can look at it and live.” 9 So Moses made a bronze snake and put it up on a pole. Then when anyone was bitten by a snake and looked at the bronze snake, they lived. |
Isn't this record better and more noble than " stealing is not corruption"? Useless Wendel Simlin. |
mtchew, armed and unarmed robbers convention!! |
mtchew, useless wike!! |
Bros sent you a mail 4 days ago sequel to the one I had sent on April 21 which obviously you haven't seen. It is about our patient. Thanks |
johnw74:Numbers 21. 7-9 The people came to Moses and said, “We sinned when we spoke against the LORD and against you. Pray that the LORD will take the snakes away from us.” So Moses prayed for the people. 8 The LORD said to Moses, “Make a snake and put it up on a pole; anyone who is bitten can look at it and live.” 9 So Moses made a bronze snake and put it up on a pole. Then when anyone was bitten by a snake and looked at the bronze snake, they lived. "All generations shall call me blessed" |
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