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ChinenyeN:
I don't think I can discuss with you about the Igbo, unless you're willing to understand one thing, and that is that the Igbo don't do things for the benefit of the Igbo.

Yes, you edited your post and I'm responding to your edit right here,

Like I stated earlier, there's nothing left to prove, this was settled during the regional set up when all the regions were in control of their own destinies, when there wasn't Yoruba, or Hausa finger pointing. We clearly witnessed what each region was blessed with and their true capabilities.

It's Ok if you wanna compare and contrast, it's a debate I'd love have. I'm even daring you to go there.

ChinenyeN:
I don't think I can discuss with you about the Igbo, unless you're willing to understand one thing.

Standard cop out,


Shouldn't you have ignored me to start with? Feel free to excuse yourself and let people debate in peace abeg.

ChinenyeN:
I'm tempted to believe that you don't really know about the Igbo.

Feel tempted as much as you wan, it's your God's given right. Debate the issues when you're done with your temptations, I'll be here.

asha 80:
Who is denying the fact that igbos tend to settle in places that are not igboland Or do you think it is only in nigeria that it happens?have you been to gabon,cameroun,china and many other countries of the world to see huge igbo populations there?Do you think this trend started now?

My problem is when you start saying what legacies are you going to bequeath the younger ones?What kind of question is that?The yoruba peopel that are increasinly being born in london and grow up there and do not want anything to do with naija let alone yoruba land what are there parents bequeathing to them

Let's not get distracted with irrelevances abeg, we're not talking about china and london, we're talking about Nigeria and if it's of any importance, shouldn't you guys be equally saying China and  London ain't s!hit without Igbo people. See how silly that sound?

Sure, yoruba people are in London, but we are very much aware that London is not ours and it's nothing but foolishness to even nurse the idea talk less saying London ain't sh!t without yoruba people.

Abeg stay focus and argue coherently,

asha 80:
Why do you seem to be concerend that igbo people are 'not developing' their land but 'developing others'?

Stating facts and concerns are 2 different things. Pick one and lets take it from there, or just prove me wrong instead of asking questions.

ChinenyeN:
They know what they want, and if you pay attention, you'll see that they do pursue it.

Trust me, I know they do, just not in Igbo land for the benefit of the Igbo people.

Ellyptical:
Babapupa,
Like you said, talk is cheap. I also encourage you to know the facts too! The eastern region DEVELOPED tremendously during the regional set-up as you call it. You will recall that the regional set-up was the period shortly after the war, when we were putting the pieces back together. If my sense of reasoning serves me right, you would not expect someone who is still trying to pick up the pieces (the east-siders  :-) ) to compete with someone who is already consolidating (the west-siders). But today, VIOLA! The people who are picking up the pieces have a stronger better economy that the people who are supposed to have moved far ahead. Why? Because of the natural resilience of the east-siders.

Like I said, talk is cheap, the regional set was way way before the war ( 1954 – 59) and it is you I encourage to go learn your history and equip yourself with facts and understanding. This basic failure betrays the rest of your argument.


You basically help asserted my points, you guys have  nothing but excuses and distractions for everything under the sun, even twisting history and basic facts to prove worthless points.


I dare you to itemize the so called developments in the east during the regional set up cos I have some to share with you out west.

Now, of what use and help to your people is your resilience  when your land is neglected, your sons and daughters are busy developing other people's land and calling other people's land home? What do you hope to pass down to your future generations? Underdeveloped land? or basically tell them that your people are resilience and that's why you neglected their future and help develop any land but Igbo land and shamefully and consistently brag about it?


And what in your mind do you think Lagosians were doing before the Igbo man showed up? Pounding stones? You showed up because it was a better place than where you came from, you showed up because the people were nice and accommodating, friendly and the atmosphere was good for business  and you wont be there if the atmosphere was the other way around.

I don't know why you guys rejoice and gleefully nurse the idea that Lagos will collapse if you guys ever did the right thing and go develop your homelands for the sake of your future generations. You obviously don't know Lagosians. There's a saying in Lagos back in the days of our forefathers “B’oju o ba ti Ehin’gbeti, oju o ni t’Eko”. (If “Ehingbeti is not in shame, Lagos will never be ashamed.) We always find our ways.

SEFAGO:
Quick point- Achebe in every way deserves the Nobel Laureate. He was not given one because of significant criticism of eurocentrism and the dehumanization of Africans in western literature most especially in Conan's Heart of Darkness. I am proud that Achebe stood up for his race first, and did not care for something as silly as a nobel laureate. Please not us insult a great man and spend more time on the useless ones on NL

You're free to make it what you want, compile your own reasons and conspiracy theories why he didn't get the Nobel prize. The fact is Wole Shoyinka did. Period.

And your remark about standing up for his race sounds out of place, you obviously have not read Wole Shoyinka's books.

There was no need to bring this up, but folks sometimes love to needlessly brag and it's like, don't bring stuff up if you don't want to be challenged.

It's still my believe that Igbo people really don't know what they want, they didn't know hence nothing was done to develop the east back in the regional government days when Zik was the premier. The west under Awolowo as we all know did a lot to develop the west and one thing you guys can not say is "Awolowo betrayed ZIK and prevented him from developing the east" 


Biafra or no Biafra, your leaders didn't rose to the occasion when provided the opportunity develop the region under the regional set up when each region was in control of it's own destiny an my question remains, who do you have to blame for that? Awolowo and the Yoruba people?

The regional set up clearly displayed each regions capabilities, vision, hopes and desires, sense of leadership and administration, man power and resource management, social programs like free education, pensions and health care and ultimately, industrialization.

So, some folks in the east refused to question their leaders and demand accountability, instead, they did exactly what they are doing today, they blamed and pointed fingers at other folks beyond their borders.

How do you develop your cities, towns and villages by ignoring it and developing other people's land that you have little or no control of at the end of the day?

How do you go around bragging that you own other people's land when yours is underdeveloped and washing away? Where is the wisdom and common sense in that.

As we see on NL, the so called Igbo leaders of tomorrow are sadly making the same mistakes with the same distractions and inability to circle the wagon and look inwards, to do their own thing instead of focusing and paying too much attention to silly and mundane stuff about other people. Talking about other people and how Awo betrayed you is not gonna develop an inch of Igbo land bd ut continue to brew more distractions and vicious circle to be fed to future generations of Igbo kids.


Leaders make decisions for their people. Awo made decisions for Yoruba people and rightly looked after the interest of Yoruba people, ZIK made decisions on behalf of the the Igbo people to do business with the North and to my understanding, he goofed monstrously as the president, Also as the premier and in my opinion, he fell short, You can not do business with the north and come out on top. Unfortunately, they are still doing business with the North. They did in the first republic with ZIK, in the second with Ekwueme as the vice president and in the 3rd as major office holders in the corridors of power. The fact is, what ever you blame you dish out to other people, save some for your leaders because they've always been part of the same rot you try as much as possible to blame other people for. Biafra is only the poor mans guilt trip because none of your leaders is interested in Biafra and what it stood for, it's nothing but a source of distraction and bait and switch.

Let's not fool ourselves, Igbo people can not have it both ways, you rightfully fought for Biafra because it was your own thing, not Oduabiafra so stop acting as if Awo or the Yoruba people owe you anything. War has consequences when you lose and it has benefits when you win, These are the colorful tapestries of war. And as much as some of you like to talk about Yoruba people and their convictions to fight, the fact is, of all the groups in Nigeria, Yoruba folks fought the system, they've spent time in jail and risked their lives more than any other groups in Nigeria and they sacrificed their sons and daughters from  Gani to Fela, Fela's mother died fighting the system, Dele Giwa, Bola Ige, Abiola, Kudirat Abiola, hundreds of demonstrating students lost their lives in the 70s and 80s, and today, they are still out their fighting the system from Falana to Wole Shoyinka and Pastor Bakare,

My question is, how many Igbo leaders are out there fighting the system today? How many of them have spent time in Jail? How many leaders have you lost? Today, Yoruba leaders and people are on the ground protesting, not siting somewhere writing meaningless jargons at a safe/distance location.

You can talk about your delusional Awo this and Yoruba that, the facts Yoruba people are moving ahead and your leaders don't give a damn, they are part of the same looting system and the last think on their minds is the worn out, tired and meaningless little rants that you guys spew on NL.


Talk is cheap, we know the facts.

Some I.D.IO.T.S here thinks that Achebe is interested in that yeye nobel prize for literature. The organisers know that he will humiliate them if they offer him one.They know already what Achebe did to Obasanjo's regime when they tried to offer him one.

This is the kind if incoherent nonsense losers cry about.  Did Achebe call and clue you in that he'll toss aside the Nobel prize if offered one?

Besides, the way you guys claim everything under the sun, we'll never hear word if na Achebe win the Nobel , exactly the way  the person I quoted was quick to throw in Achebe and his literary skills just to brag as usual, so I quickly called him back to reality that there's another literary giant in Nigeria, a giant with international seal of approval in ultimate human achievement called the Nobel prize, the first African and the only Nigerian to be showered with such honor.

With his fame and popularity, the same Wole Shoyinka spent time in Jail for fighting the system and he's still out there risking his life and leading demonstrations all over the country while just like many Igbo leaders, Achebe is siting somewhere, rolling back the hand of time with his out of touch and counterproductive thesis.

blacksta:
Here comes BRF's brother or stalker Defender and yes i was born and breed in lagos and dont have a village to go to  go .  I asked a simple question is lagos not overwhelmed with festive events.

You're free to repeat it as many times as you want, you're not a lagosian.


The problem with people like you is lack of honesty, you did not ask a simply question, you asserted that it was "Another avenue to waste money" even though you have not a single idea per who's paying, how much it's gonna cost, unless you're willing to post the cost estimate if the state don secretly send am to you.

You also asserted that they need to tar roads before organizing carnivals even though as usual, you have no clue per the state's level of participation. , but you don't care anyways, yours is just to display bad bele regardless.


You also asserted that "not everybody can afford to attend carnival in V.I" Again, you have no clue per where the festival is gonna be staged. Also, festivals and carnivals are free. The state even provided free transportation all over the state for every lagosian to attend and participate in the last eyo festival, even tourists from all over were bused to TBS free of charge.


Now, what was your simple question again?

Stop lying, be honest,  be yourself and wear your bad bele uniform with pride. We're not mumu and we see people like you coming all the time.

Fhemmmy:
I am yet to see what is wrong with holding the Carnival, i am sorry, cos like i said, this could be a start of good tourism industry in Lagos.

Of course there's nothing wrong with it, some folks just got to display their bad bele and shortsightedness as usual.

The carnival idea is a brilliant idea, the state is obviously trying to show some leadership by repackaging the existing Fanti carnival and bumping it up to international standard just like they did last Eyo festival.

This is definitely another good sign that Lagos is successfully pulling back from the edge of abyss and chaos, we're reclaiming what we've lost, we're reclaiming our long lost glory. Crime in a state of 18 million people is unbelievably so low that night life is back and raging in every corner of the state, festivals and carnivals are back, the state is in good and capable hands administratively.

We've come a long way after years of decay and neglect, things are looking up, the state is rolling out projects after projects and we're looking forward to so many more. Just like the governor said, our best days are ahead of us, not behind us.

blacksta:
You need to get your head checked what bad belle - I am resident of Lagos state and i am happy we have some one like BRF but lately i believe the man is losing focus - Which one would you choose - Repair roads in Oworonshoki or hold a carnival - not everybody can afford to attend carnival in V.I u know

You guys no dey shame ni? Your minds are so polluted with bad bele that basic reasoning dey constantly elude you.

States don't sponsor/fund carnivals, private organizations do and I'm 100% sure the carnival is gonna be privately funded just like the last Eyo festival.


Do you have any idea the kind of money the state go rake in?

Do you have any idea how much lagosians go make via influx of money, goods and services from all over the world?

Do you have any idea the kind of good image/good will states and countries garners from well orchestrated and produced carnivals and festivals?

Are you willing to bet your last dollar that folks from Ajegunle are not gonna be out there peddling their goods and services and making serious money?

Is it lost on you that communal festivities like carnivals bridge gaps and bring people together?

What's next/ Fashola and Lagosians shouldn't breath air or drink water till every inch of Lagos is tared?

Btw, I'm willing to bet you're not a Lagosian and you don't pay taxes in Lagos.

And if the tin dey bother you and you no fit sleep, go back to your village, I'm very sure all the roads are smoothly tared.


The fact is, folks like you are dangerously shortsighted and by any means necessary shouldn't part of any administrative body, you're just too narrow minded and regressive for your own good and the people around you.

tundewoods:

Ok here we go again,a fella doesn't like a thread and can't simply ignore it but decided to post on it with intent of starting the usual NL brawl    Come on guy cut some slack. I think you too are guilty of posting issues on the section that ought to be on other sections too.

Guys abeg try to avoid this usual face off's here on NL. Taking little issues too personal sounds laughable to me.Its just a forum so try to have fun while your here.  

These hating clowns just need to curb their bad bele ways and attitude sometimes. It's not my fault that their leaders didn't create something for them to be proud of or even have leaders to reference as any form of positive change and advancement in their lives.

Instead of hating on Lagosians and Fashola, go put pressure on your leaders to register for class at Alausa and take pencil and paper for note taking.

Other governors and leaders from other countries are currently taking classes at Alausa,


I WANT TO BE YOUR STUDENT, PORTO NOVO MAYOR TELLS FASHOLA.


Critical acclaim came from far away Benin Republic for Lagos State Governor, Mr. Babatunde Fashola (SAN) as the Mayor of Porto Novo, Mr. Moukaram Oceni, said he would like to be a student of the Governor.

Mr. Oceni, who led a large delegation comprising top government officials, businessmen and journalists from Benin Republic said his visit was to congratulate Governor Fashola whose developmental achievements in Lagos, according to him, has been a matter of great acclaim and admiration in Porto Novo and Benin Republic, adding that he has come also to learn from the Governor.

he Mayor, who made his remark in French Language, said, “I have come with my delegation to personally congratulate you because the whole of Benin is aware of the great work you are doing in Lagos. You have brought order, discipline and conviviality in Lagos State”.

“Lagos is very clean now. I came with a great delegation comprising elected members of Porto Novo City and businessmen to express our admiration and the admiration of the people of Porto Novo and we want to copy and learn from you what you are doing in Lagos and how you were able to change Lagos so rapidly. I want to be your student”, the Mayor said.

Going down memory lane in relation to the historic ties between Lagos and Porto Novo, the Mayor recalled that the two cities had served as trading posts for the Portuguese, adding that the two also share very strong cultural and ethnic ties.

The Mayor said the relationship between Nigeria and Benin Republic dated back to the 17th century, adding that the two countries share a lot in common especially cultural and language ties.

Inviting the Governor to visit Porto Novo at a later date, the Mayor said, “You are already a citizen of Porto Novo. All the People of Porto Novo will be happy to welcome you”.

Responding, Governor Fashola called on African countries to look more inwards for economic salvation saying the wealth of Africa is in excess of what Europe can offer the Continent, adding that it is a thing of regret that African leaders continue to think that help can only come from Europe when so many opportunities exist in the Continent to make wealth for the development of her people.

The Governor told the Mayor, “Somehow in all of Africa, we have not looked enough closely at ourselves. We have continued to think that help can only come from Europe”, adding, “There is so much opportunities for us in cross-cultural and cross boundary trade between African countries that we have not taken. Indeed, I believe that the wealth of Africa is in very vast proportion in excess of what Europe can ever offer”.



‘You’re The Best Among Us’—Gov Jang Praises Fashola,

   
Re: Best Governor Of The Year 2009
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‘You’re The Best Among Us’—Gov Jang Praises Fashola,

http://happylagosian..com/2009/05/youre-best-among-usgov-jang-praises.html


The rating of the Lagos state governor, Mr. Babatunde Fashola (SAN), went up another notch in faraway Jos, the Plateau state capital, where the Plateau state governor, General Jonah Jang (retd), declared him the best among his counterparts in the country.

Governor Jang, who was speaking while receiving his Lagos state counterpart, who paid him a courtesy visit, declared that, “I must say honestly that I rate you the best among us in terms of development in the states we preside over.” The governor, who noted that there is need for state governors to exchange official visits in order to learn from one another, also requested his visitor to consider extending an invitation to him to enable him pay an official visit to Lagos at a later date, to, in the governor’s words, “take a look at what you are doing.

“We should start paying one another state visits to learn from what each of us is doing. Irrespective of our different political parties, we have a lot to learn from one another, and I believe, it is not time for politics, as the president said, it is time to work for the nation,” Jang said. According to him, to work effectively for the nation and our different states, “we should be able to exchange ideas by paying one another official visits,” adding that he has already focused his eyes on the areas of revenue generation and security where he would like to tap from Fashola’s wisdom.

“I am watching your revenue generating system very carefully and we are trying to borrow from you by asking those who are working for you to come and look at our own state,” the Plateau state governor said. Also commending Fashola on the success of his security system in Lagos state, Jang declared; “Again, the former I.G., Smith, told me that he was chairman of the security system you set up and today we hardly hear of armed robbery in Lagos state. I agree again that this is what we have to learn from you, aside from physical development.”

Governor Jang, who said he spent 12 years in Lagos during his service years, recalled how difficult Lagos was then in terms of moving from one point to another, and commended his visitor for the tremendous transformation that Lagos state has recorded in many areas, especially in transportation and the environment. Wishing governor Fashola a happy period in the state, the Plateau state governor,, who noted that the National Economic Council (NEC) also has some top military officers as members, expressed delight that, with his wealth of experience as a Senior Advocate of Nigeria, the Lagos state governor will impact on the council membership what democracy is all about.

paddy_lo:
@babapupa,
good. .i am guessing the carnival will take place towards christmas?
i hope they do it close to the beach,like they do in rio
and everyone will party non-stop

Right on the money paddy_lo.

I sent them an email a while ago to create some kind of yearly weekend long festival for all Lagosians staged at the TBS where folks from different cultures participate and display their cultural heritage and bring Lagosians together. Also, cultural artifacts display, food and drinks by hundreds of vendors and companies. It's a win win situation for everybody, the state will make money, business folks will make money, Lagosians gets a yearly chance to get together and have a good time.

The carnival idea is still a great move and somehow will serve he same propose.

I can't help but admire the Alausa boys, they are firing from every angle and doing the best for their state. With sanitized and modernized Eyo festival and yearly carnival, Lagos is def getting on international tourists destination map.



Eko o ni baje for sure,

mama-gee:
Homosexuality shouldn't be legalized for any reason.

Why? fear dey catch you say gay people go turn you gay? Abi gay people dey comot bread from your table.?

Why even worry about what another man is doing in the corer of his room? Shey na nosiness abi you yourself dey fantasize and won know details?

aloy-emeka:
Now I know for sure you are an old man trapped in a young boy's brain. Fervent prayers can turn things around , you know. 

You're still displaying your bad bele? Oya take some more,


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Seriously, Your personal insecurities is getting way out of hand, it's seeping out of your pores. The fact that an ordinary logo got you all disgruntled and bent out of shape beats the hell out of me.


Everything doesn't have to be about you or what you like, there are tons of threads on this board to tickle your shallow and misguided fancy.

It's just a log so get a grip of yourself, I fit post some Anambra foto if I get some sef. Just don't go slit your wrist because of Lagos carnival foto. A freeking grown a!s!s man crying and displaying bad bele over logo, ain't that a shame,

Ndo,

aloy-emeka:
You see how you make fool of yourself, jumping up because your governor unveiled a damn mascot.

lmao, ebe like say this logo tin dey pain you,


Make I add more put make e pain you some more,


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A beautiful landscape crisscrossed
With fascinating bodies of water
Naturally beautiful and densely populated
From various lands we have come
From different tribes, tongues and race
Our destiny is tied to the chord here
Yes, it is our Eko.

Home to all, hope to many
Blessed land of great opportunities
From Badagry to the breaches of the atlantics
The vast seas of human heads at Oshodi
To the farmlands in Ikorodu
And the fishermen's delight in Epe
Yes it is our Eko

The mainland and the island
Divided between the rich and the poor
Yet we mix up so easily in the epicenter of isaleko
With nightlife like day time in las vagas
With a faster wallstreet in lagos island
and our Maryland is in the mainland
yes it is our Eko

Oh ye city that knows no sleep
Not without the oceans of beautiful faces
Unceasing hustling and struggling is our trademark
We know how to relax in our owambe parties
And cause the fireworks in the sky with our eyo
Beautiful masquerades from the dead that ensure we thrive
As we relentlessly dance and sing, Eko oni baje
O baje ti!



MEANING OF YORUBA TERMS USED IN THE POEM
EKO=the Yoruba word for Lagos
EPE, ISALEKO, IKORUDU, BADAGRY, OSHODI=Areas in lagos
OWAMBE=Lavish celebration
EYO=cultural masquerade dressed in flowing white gown, the symbol of lagos state
EKO O NI BAJE=Lagos will not spoil(a popular slang in lagos)
O BAJE TI=It won’t get spoilt forever

aloy-emeka:
You ought to be older than this because even a 15 year old will not reason this way.  Truly, maturity is independent of age, it's more dependent on the mind. I can't believe that this agbalagba will be here jumping up because his state governor unveiled a mascot. May be Akala should unveil Santa Claus by November for us to chant alleluia and vote him in one more time. If you know what is good for you, better look for more better ways to protect Fashola from Tinubu because I no wan hear raataataataa followed by obituary announcement before 2011. 

You really are a boring fella.


I'm not inetrested in your silly rant, this is about Fashola unveiling the logo of lagos state carnival, not about your and predictable bad bele.


It's not by force, go find some other ish that makes you snore well at night or just scratch your blokos if you must, just comot and don't try to make this about you, biafra and your insecurities, abeg vamoose,

aloy-emeka:
Shouldn't this be in the culture section?. What is the big thing about unveiling a logo created by an artist?. Then, it's babapupa, any force that speaks against anything related to Fashola must be abused or branded a tribalist.

Keep quiet and go sidon for somewhere with your  hating,

If na Anambra now you go dey jump up and down like billy goat,

This is not about Fashola, this is about Lagos state.

I know how frustrating it is for you guys to have nothing to be proud of, It ain't my fault, hater oshi buruku

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http://happylagosian..com/2010/01/eko-pride-and-culture-week-fashola.html


A lot is happening in Lagos this year,

Eko o ni baje lai lai

O ba je ti loju awon olote

lol. Omo, save your dry Kalahari story for NL mumu wey no sabi your ways,

lol @ inserting Wole Shoyinka. What's he got to do with your weak rant?

Why take the man's name to prop up our yeye story?


lol @ dude acting disgruntled and cursing like a 2 year old throwing tantrums, talk about typical Igbo rage. who's a f!agot?

You're not only a clueless hate monger, you're a freeking petty bigot too. see as you just dey show your tru color. I know say all that kumbaya na fake and you go still expose ya real self, I just no know say you go show am quick quick,

revolt:
Why do people here repeat that igbos don't have land and should go back forgetting that we own a major part of lag abuja even kano. I don't think any other persons have achieved such feats apart from benins n deltans. Forget you can whine and call us losers but cmon u knw dats a foolish lie. Dumb people lie to themselves.

Of what joy and pride is it to keep bragging that you own another man's land that you have zero control of when your own is lacking attention and fallowing away?

What are you going to hand over to your future generations? Other people's land/states or your own developed and flourishing, cities, towns and villages?  

You guys need to stop running on empty, shallowness and shortsightedness.

I think is just I think. saying I think I go win loto tomorrow no mean say I go win, na just thinking.

RichyBlacK:
LAFOCUZY,

Thank you for this well-conceived post.

Personally, I respect the Yorubas as an ethnic nation and have many Yoruba friends in the US, the UK and Nigeria. I schooled in the heart of Yorubaland, Ògbómọ̀ṣọ́, and saw nothing but love and respect. I never experienced any insult, overt or covert, by any Yoruba. Except during one event when our school went to Ibadan (Abadina College) for a math/science quiz competition - that was some hilarious shytze! Moving on, I understand every shade of the Yoruba language, perhaps except some oríkìs (praise poetry). I've dated Yoruba chicks and have visited too many Yoruba homes to count. The average Yoruba man is friendly and accommodating. They are relatively lighthearted and moderately tempered.

It is indeed very sad that the Biafran War provided some opportunity for a few selfish Yorubas to capitalize on ethnic differences to portray the Igbos negatively. This tactic has been used by many leaders to further their selfish agendas - German leaders used it in Nazi Germany to kill Jews, Japanese leaders used it against the Chinese to invade Manchuria, Israeli leaders are using it today against Palestinians to oppress them, and the list goes on.

The betrayals, treachery, plunder, deprivations and war crimes committed by the likes of Chief Obafemi Awolowo, Benjamin Adekunle, Olusegun Obasanjo, etc. should not be blamed on the average Yoruba man or woman. These characters were working for themselves and would have killed any Yoruba man that was perceived as an obstacle - there was no love lost between Awolowo and S. L. Akintola; Obasanjo did nothing whatsoever to unravel the mystery surrounding Bola Ige's death; etc.

When my dad told us the stories of the Biafran War (since public schools in Nigeria are forbidden from teaching that aspect of Nigeria's history), he made sure to admonish us not to hate any Yoruba or Hausa person because of those events. He said that war is ugly and ugly things happen in every war. I was born and raised in Lagos and grew up with people from various ethnic groups - Igbos, Yorubas, Urhobos, Binis, Isokos, Ijaws, Efiks, Ibibios, and Itsekiris. We all played soccer, organized parties, played chess, chased babes, dated across ethnic groups, went clubbing, rapped (every teenage wanted to be a rapper those days in Lagos) and dreamed about a better Nigeria.

I understand the bitterness about the Biafran War, but I plead with my fellow Igbo brethren to shun "ethnic mudslinging" (as Katsumoto will put it) and try to explore the vast areas of common interest that Ndi-Igbo and Yorubas have. I have seen Igbos and Yorubas work together on many occasions and firmly believe that we can all work together to make Nigeria a livable place.

*Bavaria is a south-eastern German state.

Look at this dude doing exactly what he's deceptively campaigning against. You need bitterness and blood transfusion to flush the hidden hate and bitterness out of your system. Who are you trying to fool? You sound like the racist white guy saying I don't hate black people because my best friend is black.

lol @ I respect Yoruba people disclaimer. Please be yourself and quit condescending, very unnecessary.

Must you guys claim anything, even falsities by any means necessary? Of what use is a news story based on dishonesty?

Good for Anambra, but they are not holding no First Nigerian Gubernatorial Debate, western states like Lagos and Ogun hosted guber. debates in 2007, it was even televised in Ogun state.


Take it easy with the lying and deceptive headlines people,

EzeUche:
Wole Soyinka is a good man for a Yoruba and he has my respect. However,  Chinua Achebe has been called "the father of modern African writing." Without Chinua Achebe, Wole Soyinka would not have been able to win that award. Even Nelson Mandela, recalling his time as a political prisoner, once referred to Achebe as a writer "in whose company the prison walls fell down."

Please, let's not get into sidewalk irrelevancies, I could name a million and one people with similar claims about Wole Shoyinka.

The fact is, Nobel is the only golden and global standard when it comes to literature human achievements. Wole Shoyinka not only was awarded, he was the first African and the only Nigerian. Let's just leave it at that.

EzeUche:
Chinua Achebe is seen as the greatest African authors that ever lived.

And guess what, this great man is an IGBO!!! People around the world read his novel, THINGS FALL APART. Now what do you Yorubas have to match this great man? The answer is nothing.

Chinua Achebe is indeed a great man of literature, but another man, a Nigerian named Wole Soyinka won the Nobel Prize in Literature. The first African to win the prize if I might add,

Literature pass literature and man pass man my brother. Go recycle the highlighted and resubmit in the next lifetime.

akigbemaru:
Babapupa,
Your music comparison doesn't make sense, what point are you trying to make. These both clips were made in Lagos for your information. Just like comparing Kelly Handsome songs with Jembete logoba. It doesn't jell in this equation. Any tribes can make good music!

When people criticize us wrongly we can lash back, not drawn anormaly analogy.

To start with, I did not criticize, I basically asserted same point I made in my post about our different ways of life and disposition. It's pretty much obvious from history that we are on different plains. Tell me it's the other way around and I'll quickly call you a a lair and dishonest human being.  Nothing here  is a put down unless you're trying to make it one. Lets be honest with ourselves and quit the shameless falsities and move on.

About the 2 videos, they were both obviously made in Lagos and you're not telling me anything new and if I might add, you indirectly asserted my point. They were both made in Lagos just like tons of videos made by folks from both groups with different life realities and outlook.

It is still my believe that Igbo folks really want to be Yoruba because there's no any other way to explain the endless and unwanted attention they shower on Yoruba people. In life, we don't waste our time on issues and things we don't like, we simply move on and stake other beneficial interests.

These are legitimate observations, not criticism. We can debate these issues and have our Igbo friends explain to us why it's so hard for them to think less about Yoruba folks for a second. It's even worse when a whole group blames their misfortunes and denial of peaceful and fruitful utopia existence on another group (Yoruba).

There's got to be some kind of resolution somewhere and redirection of energy and focus. We read silly and ridiculous nonsense on NL everyday, it's the same bull crap about cowards, liars, betrayers and other mean spirited and hateful utterances. I really don't think it's sustainable, there's got to be some kind of mutual settlement. For Igbo people and just like in real life, it's always hard to move and achieve better things while still immersed in the past, bitterness and share envy, it just doesn't work and if I might add, we're seeing the effects as we speak.

Obviously, Yoruba is really what Igbo folks wanna be, I understand the envy and frustration behind  all the attention they lavish on Yoruba people.

You can not obtain swagger with money or shakara, it's just not part of your make up or DNA, Yoruba folks are born with it, even a day old Yoruba baby get swagger wey hin dey take cry for br!est milk.

Igbo folks really need to start worrying less about Yoruba folks and resist all urges and fixations. We all have our destinies and no amount of hate, envy and silly talks of cowards and other ridiculous nonsense fit help the Igbo nation close the ever widening gap between Yoruba and Igbo folks. Yoruba folks are a million miles ahead in arts/culture, literature, entertainment, education, human and physical development, socio and environmental sophistication. That's just the way it is, the way it was written.

I know Igbo folks bet everything on Biafra as if Biafra was their main panacea to salvation and Igbo utopia. If I ruled the world, trust me, I'll dash you Biafra this very minute because I don't see the Igbo nation moving on to beta things with the Biafra monkey, fixation and distraction still on their backs.

Now, checkout these 2 music videos, it explains the envy, the gap and frustration,  even why den hate Lagos.

Yoruba,


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiSX5pagz8s


Igbo,


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEGn84Sg4RE


See the difference?

We all have our God's given characteristics and dispositions, you can't claim what's not yours or waste away your lives and future generation's by blaming other people for decades of self inflicted maladies and biafra distractions on other people, especially when these other people don't even give a s!.h!t about you. Igbo folks are like Ghana folks and Naija, always hating and trying to compare instead of worrying about their own existence.

Wow!!

Long live Fashola

Love live the great state of Lagos,