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BusinessRe: Lagos To Introduce Electric Vehicles In 2010[in A Blackout Nation] by babapupa: 5:19pm On Oct 24, 2009
wirinet:
I love fashola and the way he has been transforming Lagos, but this is a really stupid Idea. There is no where in the world solar Cars are used for mass transport. It is still in experimental phase and is usually toys for the big boys.

Let supporters of this scheme show me where a similar project is working. I am not even mentioning the lack of electricity to power the cars. most people have enough problems charging their phones not to talk of charging a whole series of batteries necessary to run a car.

Finally the cost of producing, transporting and distributing the electricity necessary to charge the cars would be far higher than the cost of petrol.
I don't think the state government is talking about mass transportation, it's not even a method of mass transportation in advanced countries.

Let's stay focused with known facts.

The human race transforms and creates opportunities out of adversities,we can't sit around on our hands and do nothing, advance and develop because we have challenges. You'll never know the extent of opportunities and benefits till you get off your ass and take the bull by the horn, you can't achieve anything by doing nothing because you're scared and afraid of challenges. We need to quit the cave man mentality ways of thinking.

Our country is messed up because we don't have leaders with guts and vision and if I might add, they have pessimistic, timid and enabling masses.

I bet you don't even know how fast solar technology from solar charging stations for cars could quickly and easily trickle down and solve the same cell phone charging problem you just stated. You'll never know the full benefits and trickle down effect of any technology till you initiate and introduce it.

We need bold and  risk taking leaders, not sit on your hand leaders giving silly excuses saying they can't do this and that because we don't have that. We want to be like the west but the west didn't get to where they're @ today because they sat on their hands, I'm sure they faced similar and tons of challenges way back.

It's really sad to listen to our so called leaders of tomorrow walking down the same deadly visionless and gutless path. What moral authority do we even have to question our so called useless leaders when we the masses are equally flawed and backward in our thinking and actions?
BusinessRe: Lagos To Introduce Electric Vehicles In 2010[in A Blackout Nation] by babapupa: 3:41am On Oct 24, 2009
Aloy~Emeka:
grin grin Who is talking about coffee?. She said, 'smell the coffin'. grin grin grin
Ode, na sarcasm, I guess it blew over your head.
BusinessRe: Lagos To Introduce Electric Vehicles In 2010[in A Blackout Nation] by babapupa: 3:33am On Oct 24, 2009
dblock:
Well so far Lagos State has stayed true to their word.

They said they would clean up Lagos they are doing it.

They said they would improve roads, they are doing it.

Now they want to stop polluting the planet, so that your children will not die of oxygen deprivation and people are throwing a hissy.

They say wey the electricity?

Well a lot of this will be powered by Solar among other smart technology

They say it won't benefit the common man.

Well will the poor man be ban from driving his rickety Volkswagen? the answer is no.

This move will clean the air around Lagos, it will increase livability for Lagosians.
Wonderful post,


Unfortunately, these guys are not reasonable and they don't give a hoot about lagos. Their job here is to trash and criticize just for the heck of it.
BusinessRe: Lagos To Introduce Electric Vehicles In 2010[in A Blackout Nation] by babapupa: 3:24am On Oct 24, 2009
bluntpis:
Story story, in Lag. impossible. Mr Fashola shud wake up n smell d coffin
Lagosians and Fashola have been smelling the coffee for well over 2 years and obviously, they love the smell.
BusinessRe: Lagos To Introduce Electric Vehicles In 2010[in A Blackout Nation] by babapupa: 3:16am On Oct 24, 2009
Fhemmmy:
hahahaha
i have never insulted anyone on NL, but i have broke the record today by telling you that you are dumb and a nuisance.
You need to go and do more research and not just open your mouth at the pass of the wind.
On that note, i am done with you {yawning} now my bed time, and i will be back in the morning. . .dumb man, go and get some pure water to wash your chicken brain, maybe you will be able to think better.
All your clownish face saving trash talk can not mask the fact that you know little or nothing about your own country. You dont' even know the basics.


I think it's safe to conclude that you really are stupid and dumb.
BusinessRe: Lagos To Introduce Electric Vehicles In 2010[in A Blackout Nation] by babapupa: 2:27am On Oct 24, 2009
Fhemmmy:
check my post so far on NL and see how i have been supportive of Fashola's idea, however, i dont follow like a dog with no mind, when you right i praise, when you wrong, i say it the way it is, you dont have to like it, and thank God you cant practice your e-thug here.
This is not about a dog with no mind. You are the dog with no mind, a reasonable and rational human being waits and scrutinize details before passing judgment.  I just don't see the wisdom in condemning what we know little or nothing about.
BusinessRe: Lagos To Introduce Electric Vehicles In 2010[in A Blackout Nation] by babapupa: 2:14am On Oct 24, 2009
Fhemmmy:
It is so sad to argue with people with no vision nor mission.
Oga Sir, regardless of that answers to all those dumb question from your dumb brain, it is a dumb idea for a electrical cars without electricity, regardless of who will be paying and how much they paying for one, let them use that money for better stuff.
The roads are bad, Lagos can invest into wind generated power and have turbines all over the place, we have all it takes to make this happen, so let them use the money for that instead of some dumb mickey mouse toy cars that wont last at all in a place like Lagos.
For once, think with your head and not with your tail.
I think arguing with you is useless, cos block heads dont reason.
Ok, let's break this down once and for all.

It is really stupid and dumb to say cars should not be on our roads and the society should not function because the roads are bad.

It is stupid and dumb to assume or make claim that all/100% of our roads are bad.

It is stupid and dumb to assume that the electric cars can not run off solar powered charging stations.

It is stupid and dumb to advice the state government to initiate any kind of power project when it's against fed laws.

It is stupid and dumb to generate power without distribution lines.

It is also stupid and dumb to assume that the state can erect transmission lines.

Finally, it is a dumb idea to criticize what you know nothing about hence you refusing to answer my questions.


See how stupid and dumb you are?
BusinessRe: Lagos To Introduce Electric Vehicles In 2010[in A Blackout Nation] by babapupa: 1:56am On Oct 24, 2009
proproman:
@kobojunkie, not meaning any insult but, what exactly have you ratified on Nairaland? It may be that i've not followed all your posts but you don't seem to ratify anything government does. Again I don't mean any insult and, of course, you are entitled to your opinion but then I don't want to believe you are a pessimist. About the bicycle scheme, former minister of transportation, Ojo Madueke attempted to promote the use of bicycles. The result? He was labeled the bicycle minister by the press and people and Nigerians are still not massively riding bicycles till today. The fact is this; most Nigerians don't know what they want. All they know is the mantra of "good roads, pipe borne water, hospitals, electricity, schools, " and anything that does not sound like these is rubbish to them. I don't want to believe you are in that category. Fashola has done well for Lagos state and that can't be denied. But because some people did not hear him say "good roads, pipe borne water, hospitals, electricity, schools, " he's suddenly a non performer. Some one called him psychotic! Imagine that coming from someone living in Lagos and has seen the level of change and development that the man has brought to the state. Even if he proposed to fix the railway system, some people, because they did not hear "good roads, pipe borne water, hospitals, electricity, schools, " will try to shoot it down. I admit that the idea could be expensive and a little premature but you have to give him credit for at least thinking ahead. There are states in this same country where something like the BRT system would be a novelty to the state governor. I support Fashola because he's performed credibly well so far. As for Americans accepting the use of bicycles, well you know the priorities and thinking module of an average American is different from that of an average Nigerian. Tell a Nigerian banker to go to work on a bicycle in his suit because his work place is not far from his home? You've automatically become an enemy of progress. Most Nigerians look at cars as proof of success and accomplishment and bicycles as vehicles of the poor or just for exercise. You have to first change the mentality of the average Nigerian before that idea can work (and by the way, since it's not "good roads, pipe borne water, hospitals, electricity, schools, " they'll probably reject it anyways). When I state my opinion I consider both sides of the argument and I think everyone else should too.
Great post.

Unfortunately, these guys don't give a damn about lagos state. Their crock tears opinion is absolutely irrelevant.

They ran their mouth and cried about the BRT system so they have no credibility or any kind of moral authority to even voice their misguided opinions.

If Fashola showed up tomorrow with plans to build power plants in lagos, these guys are gonna be here crying and shouting just like they're doing now.

Thank God their  negative rants is limited to NL.
BusinessRe: Lagos To Introduce Electric Vehicles In 2010[in A Blackout Nation] by babapupa: 1:49am On Oct 24, 2009
Fhemmmy:
Nice post, but i have some questions for you.
At what cost are all these things coming to Lagos?
What are their plans for maintenance?
What is the technical know how about all these stuff?

Now tell me, would it be wrong for them to first tackle the non-existence of constant power in that state? and afterwards now bring in all the electrical cars, cos now we can use the power to charge the battery of the cars.
There are so many biz that are suffering all cos they have to run generators 24 by 7 days a week.
there are so many companies that has refused to open up in Nigeria cos of the misplaced judgement of Nigerian govt and some of the states.
Naira is exchanged at 155 Niara to 1$, Nigeria is one of the best educated Nations in the world, we have great everything and yet we are not cashing in on the fact that our money is low and labour is low.
But one governor now wanna spend money that cld have been used for better things on some electrical cars? common, i respect Fashola than that.

I have always been a supporter of Fashola, cos i think that guy has his head screwed on well to his shoulder, but on this particular issue, he goofed.
You keep asking the same silly questions.

Fashola can not generate and distribute electricity in Lagos state so stop the madness.

And how did he goofed? just because you have an opinion = Fashola goofed? You really need to come up for some air.

Do you know who's paying for it?

Do you know how much they're paying for it?

Do you know where they're getting the cars from?

Do you know what plans they've made  so far per the project?

Of course you don't know, all you have is blind pessimism and criticism.  Listen to yourself for a change, your argument is bogus.
BusinessRe: Lagos To Introduce Electric Vehicles In 2010[in A Blackout Nation] by babapupa: 1:35am On Oct 24, 2009
Fhemmmy:
I am so glad u are back.
A man that follow something all cos it is Fashola
Spin it whichever way you like, that's your own headache.
BusinessRe: Lagos To Introduce Electric Vehicles In 2010[in A Blackout Nation] by babapupa: 1:14am On Oct 24, 2009
Fhemmmy:
Ok. . . . but on this one, Fashola still goofed.
Nothing but a matter of opinion.


Of what use is your warped opinion anyways? Huff and puff as you want on NL, Lagos is getting electric cars.


lmao,
BusinessRe: Lagos To Introduce Electric Vehicles In 2010[in A Blackout Nation] by babapupa: 11:56pm On Oct 23, 2009
ezeagu:
Well continue to spend time crying over letters of the Latin alphabet.
After you of course.
BusinessRe: Lagos To Introduce Electric Vehicles In 2010[in A Blackout Nation] by babapupa: 11:26pm On Oct 23, 2009
ezeagu:
Get. Over. It. Thats what you should expect in a multi-nation state, it has happened to every group.
Hush!! Nothing to get over and I stand by every word.

Lagosians are satisfied with Fashola so save your multi nation state expectation BS.
BusinessRe: Lagos To Introduce Electric Vehicles In 2010[in A Blackout Nation] by babapupa: 11:06pm On Oct 23, 2009
Nigerians can really be funny at times.  When the government isn't doing anything, we call for their head.  When they decide to do something, we rubbish the idea.  Not surprising though, I really don't know of any brilliant idea that wasn't first rubbished by supposed "intellectuals". . . of course, they too had their "strong reasons" as to why such ideas were "rubbish".  Seems lots of people have short term memory.  When BRT idea was first proposed then, lots of people called it a white elephant project, and they all had very sound arguments to back up their stance.  Today, they've been proven wrong.

Do you guys honestly think that those who proposed this idea haven't thought of all you're arguing here?  Or you think all there is to the project is what you've read in the newspaper article?  Do you really think that they are oblivious of the electricity problems in Nigeria?  I expect all of us to be asking meaningful questions about this project, instead of condemning it outrightly.  Some are even calling Fashola names already.  Certainly, this is beyond contempt for the seemingly "ridiculous" project.  It appears lots of people are envious that Lagos (Fashola) is perhaps the only state in Nigeria making positive headlines.

I think it'll be wise if we just ask the right questions, and probably give our own suggestions to make it work, rather than list a thousand "sound" reasons why the project cannot work, as if you have all the details concerning the project.
Very well said. But it really doesn't matter, lagos state is getting electric cars, all they're spiting is nothing but internet opinion.

The same folks cried and shed crock tears about the BRT system like they really give a damn about lagos state to begin with.

Are they not still crying over the New airport in Lekki?


Tell me, what is the common features of these detractors? they are the usual ethnic jingoists, to them, nothing good must come from that part of the country that's not theirs. They're just not man enough to admit it. But we know.

Yes I said it,
BusinessRe: Lagos To Introduce Electric Vehicles In 2010[in A Blackout Nation] by babapupa: 10:34pm On Oct 23, 2009
Fhemmmy:
With all the other options, It WILL NOT WORK IN LAGOS.
A matter of opinion.
BusinessRe: Lagos To Introduce Electric Vehicles In 2010[in A Blackout Nation] by babapupa: 10:17pm On Oct 23, 2009
Fhemmmy:
Make sure the tow vehicle is not electrical sha.
Uche2nna:
LOL,  trust Nigerians to turn every argument into[i] "my own beta pass your own"[/i]. Someone even went as far as defining it along ethnic lines

No matter babapupa and his cohorts say, the facts are there to see. No state in this present day Nigeria has what it takes embark on an electric car project. At this point, thats more a liability on our meagre resources. We have more pressing problems than that.

It bugs me that babapupa will keep on saying that generating electricty is not Fashola's portfolio. One wonders then how he will power those cars? If he can generate power for those cars, then he sure can generate power 24/7 for the whole of lagos.

If he loves the environment so much, then maybe he should start with replacing all the Govt owned SUV's with fuel efficient cars like Golf.
Rubbish.
BusinessRe: Lagos To Introduce Electric Vehicles In 2010[in A Blackout Nation] by babapupa: 10:13pm On Oct 23, 2009
Kobojunkie:
YESSSSSSSS

But the question was directed at you considering you seem not to know what you are suggesting there.


I now understand why you don't think I make sense. It is because you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

Solar Panels are used to GENERATE ELECTRICITY. If you at least took time to read up on the Sunpods example in CA you kept posting over and over, you would have realized by now that the charging stations get their POWER from the sun, which is then converted to ELECTRIC power with which the cars are then charged.
I missed the part where they connected the cars to NEPA lines? This is pure comic relief I swear. lmao.

And who's arguing against the source of solar power? lmao

What difference does it make? Are we not talking about other options besides national power grid?

I just proved to you that the state have other options via solar and you're here talking about solar tech. Are you confused?

Shouldn't you just admit and cop to the main issue that the state have other options via solar.


Yes or No. Just like ABC.
BusinessRe: Lagos To Introduce Electric Vehicles In 2010[in A Blackout Nation] by babapupa: 9:58pm On Oct 23, 2009
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Kobojunkie:
You would first need to SHOW ME where you have me stating that SOLAR ENERGY cannot be used in powering an electric car, so that way I can better answer your question as I have no clue where you get the above from.


Yet, Fashola's government DOES generate some power, only it goes to the national grid? Even if we go with your claim that Power generation is not his problem, then why is he buying cars that NEED POWER to run them knowing full well that, according to you, he cannot do much about the POWER GENERATION problem?



It is NOT doable without ELECTRICITY hence the reason why it is called an ELECTRIC car. Either way, the government is going to have to deal with supplying electricity to power these vehicles. If it decides to GENERATE power via solar means, then it would have to cough up extra thousands of dollars for each car. If you want to know how much it could cost, think of how much it could cost to fully power a whole house using solar energy alone, on a regular basis. If it decides to wait for the FG to solve the POWER GENERATION problems, then maybe it is best the project wait for the FG to be done with that first, since we are not sure when that will happen.
Is this car running on power grid?https://www.theautochannel.com/news/2009/10/12/481127.1-lg.jpg


http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2009/10/12/481127.htmlhttps://www.altdotenergy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/solar-electric-car-charging-station.jpg


http://www.altdotenergy.com/2009/04/first-solar-powered-ev-charging-station-unveiled-in-chicago/[quote]If it decides to wait for the FG to solve the POWER GENERATION problems, then maybe it is best the project wait for the FG to be done with that first, since we are not sure when that will happen.
This quote is very laughable. So we should wait and sit on our hands till the same folk who are responsible for the mess wake up from slumber and do what they should have done 3o years ago?

Dude, are you for real?

Now, the state is talking about going green and moving away from fossil fuel and you're talking about the opposite. Where in the hell do you think the feds power is gonna come from?


Why is it so hard for you to make a little sense? It's really not by force to argue against something just because you can.
BusinessRe: Lagos To Introduce Electric Vehicles In 2010[in A Blackout Nation] by babapupa: 9:42pm On Oct 23, 2009
Fhemmmy:
u are so hilarious, if you notice i dont try to yab you or anything.
Now lemme tell yu something.
Gas in your car dont dry up and i hope you know why, but just in case you done, it is cos it is in a tank and if not used, it will be there, unlike a battery, it will be gone, except in a sleep mode, and cars dont have such yet.
So Sir, the man that makes most senses, dont yab when you exchanging views.
lol @ I don't try to yab you. Who care? That's on you, your silly burden shouldn't be on me so yab away and knock yourself out.

Now, this is what you posted,

Fhemmmy:
Dont mind the dude.
A fully charged solar battery runs for 8 hours and with the traffic on lagos road, it is uselessly useless.
Like i said, it is better to invest such energy and funds into better use, such as making sure everyone has light and not having to hear the noise from gens
You said running, not standing still.


Besides, you argument is just too absurd because we all know the capabilities of electric cars, your rudimentary take and reasoning sounds just too elementary for me.


The only fact I need you to admit is that solar is an available option. You wont because your argument is not based on sound reasoning, it's based on plain ol' criticize just for the fun of it,
BusinessRe: Lagos To Introduce Electric Vehicles In 2010[in A Blackout Nation] by babapupa: 9:30pm On Oct 23, 2009
Kobojunkie:
Dude, if you really understand how this contradicts most all of your initial claims, you would understand why I would assume you probably did not know this before now.

Now, if you observe the pattern with countries around the world which you claim are already doing it, you would at least admit that most all of them do not experience the level of power hiccups we are still dealing with. Most of these are countries hat already have power problems taken care of and are looking for alternative FUEL sources for powering their economies.
Not again,


You still have to convince me that solar energy can not power what the state proposed or that it's not an available option.


Power generation and distribution in Nigeria is not Fashola's problem and what the state proposed doesn't have to tap the national grid.


You guys can run cycles an play lose with known facts as much as you want, the fact is, it is doable without brick and mortar electricity.


NEXT>>>>>>>
BusinessRe: Lagos To Introduce Electric Vehicles In 2010[in A Blackout Nation] by babapupa: 9:24pm On Oct 23, 2009
manny4life:
Why knock what you don't know nothing about?

Me? knocking at something I know nothing about? haha,  so pathetic and I won't even reply to that becos its just time wasting you know. Its not worth arguing with you so I will leave it at that ok.

Non of these naysayers have the details on their foreheads so why make sweeping judgment on a proposed project.

Perhaps I lost it in the begining, oops maybe in the middle of the thread. What detail do you refer to? Talk about judgement? Neither one has passed a judgement but a mere comparative analysis, period. I am doing same thing anyone would do; questioning the validity of the project because you know why, it is the government and it was made public.

This is obviously our national character traits, we lack vision and we knock people with vision and ideas.

Well you can define that as your own characteristics, its one thing to have vision and ideas (trust and believe everyone does), and its another to have the resource in achieving that vision and Ideas and I don't only mean financial resource.
My post wasn't directed at you. It actually sided with your post.

Mine was for the against folks,
BusinessRe: Lagos To Introduce Electric Vehicles In 2010[in A Blackout Nation] by babapupa: 9:16pm On Oct 23, 2009
Kobojunkie:
Ok, I read your response there and I have to wonder if you are serious here.
ELECTRIC Cars are not meant to be the big weapons in the fight to reduce GLOBAL EMISSIONS persay
. Fighting GLOBAL EMISSIONS does not have not be expensive. It costs about as much sometimes, even more sometimes,to power Electric cars, both energy wise and moneywise, when compared to cost of powering the same cars with gasoline.

Those in the villages riding their bikes will do 1000 X more to help fight global emissions, compared to those riding an 30 minutes a day in ELECTRIC cars.
And who's arguing otherwise? The fact is, it's an integral part of it and countries all over the world are doing 'same.
BusinessRe: Lagos To Introduce Electric Vehicles In 2010[in A Blackout Nation] by babapupa: 9:14pm On Oct 23, 2009
Fhemmmy:
What is the lifespan of a regular fully charged battery by a Solar power?
if you can answer that, then, we will base the argument on that
Maybe I shouldn't put petrol in my car because it's gonna dry up after a few hrs anyways,


Try make sense sometimes.
BusinessRe: Lagos To Introduce Electric Vehicles In 2010[in A Blackout Nation] by babapupa: 9:07pm On Oct 23, 2009
manny4life:
Either way in which its powered, there isn't just enough electricty. If its through the grid system, then a lot of people would be short on electricty because now their is more consumption than production. If they decide to power through solar power, well there lies our initial argument.
Now, we're back at square one.

Why knock what you don't know nothing about?

Non of these naysayers have the details on their foreheads so why make sweeping judgment on a proposed project.

This is obviously our national character traits, we lack vision and we knock people with vision and ideas.


@Fhemmmy

Quit repeating the same redundant argument, fax your concern to Abuja for stable electricity.

Power generation in Nigeria as a country is not Fashola's business and if I might add, lagos state has been there and done that, it didn't get the state no where because every mw generated in Nigeria by any entity by law goes into the obsolete federal grid and that is waste of money from the state's point of view.

Are you suggesting that the state should go ahead and make the same mistake twice.

Even a day old baby sabi these facts.

Try again
BusinessRe: Lagos To Introduce Electric Vehicles In 2010[in A Blackout Nation] by babapupa: 8:45pm On Oct 23, 2009
Fhemmmy:
And has the govt said, they will tap electricity from solar source/
not at all.
there is a big difference and dont let us just argue blindly.
Freeking irony!!!


Are you not arguing blindly by dumping on what you know little or nothing about beyond the newspaper article.

You yourself don't know the details, you have no clue if the cars are gonna be powered by solar or grid electricity.  

Obviously, you're knocking it just for the heck of it. @ least be honest with yourself because you can not have it both ways.
BusinessRe: Lagos To Introduce Electric Vehicles In 2010[in A Blackout Nation] by babapupa: 6:14pm On Oct 23, 2009
rasputinn:
That could very well be the first project in which Gov BRF would fail woefully,except of course he first deals with the perceived fear among many (judging from an interview I read sometime ago)that electric cars do actually shock,very few Lagosians actually would like to be in faulty electric cars while wading through the flooded roads of Lagos
Show me your crystal ball and I'll role with you,
BusinessRe: Lagos To Introduce Electric Vehicles In 2010[in A Blackout Nation] by babapupa: 6:12pm On Oct 23, 2009
Aloy~Emeka:
You can't be quick to accuse him because this could still be a proposition from parties like Babapupa who has special interest in the contract.
Quit being childish and ridiculous. Let's hang with the issue.

I've debunked everything you pulled out from under your lapel and if you have more, come with it.
BusinessRe: Lagos To Introduce Electric Vehicles In 2010[in A Blackout Nation] by babapupa: 6:09pm On Oct 23, 2009
Aloy~Emeka:
I don't know who is saying the truth again and who is lying. The first link is not working but the 2nd link works. This allegation has been on for over one year only for his press secretary to deny it last week. Nigerian govt is not immune to lies. Same newspaper reported this :

http://allafrica.com/stories/200811120064.html



Fashola denied it in February.

Press Releases


Lagos Government Did Not Buy Sunborn Yatch – Fashola

Feb 19, 2009 - Lagos State Governor, Mr. Babatunde Fashola (SAN), at the weekend stated categorically that the Lagos State Government did not commit any money to the purchase of Sunborn Yatch on the Lagoon along the Marina in Central Lagos.

Fielding questions from Government House Correspondents at the new Lagos House, Governor Fashola said what the Government did was to engage a partnership predicated on a business initiative by a Private Sector operator who was interested in providing the facility as a way to provide accommodation to visitors in the State, especially on weekends.

“It is factually incorrect that Lagos State Government acquired that Yatch. We did not. What we did was to engage a partnership. That partnership was predicated on a business initiative by a Private Sector operator who felt that Lagos hotels were usually fully booked over the weekend and that there was opportunity, rather than build a whole new hotel, to get the facility which would provide hotel lodging on the waterways”, the Governor said adding that the Government encouraged the initiative.

According to the Governor, the involvement of the State Government was to the extent of providing a mooring facility and land near the mooring facility that would serve as booking hall and reception for the facility.

Governor Fashola, however, explained that the operators had not come back to him since they made the acquisition to indicate when they intend to deploy the operation of the boat, adding, “But the boat does not belong to the Lagos State Government. We did not buy it”.

“But we engaged and we are still ready to engage that partnership to provide that kind of facility that they sought to bring, which is a hotel on the water and we will make our necessary commitment when we see clearly how to proceed to actually realize the investment that business concern has made”, he said.

Offering a panacea to ameliorate the effect of the global economic meltdown on the country, Governor Fashola called for the consideration of the release of a quarter of the nation’s foreign reserve into the local economy as a way of cushioning the effect of meltdown.

Governor Fashola said that just as China recently released the sum of $568Billion into the Chinese economy to cushion the effect, now is the time for Nigeria to draw down on its foreign reserves, adding that what is missing in the Nigerian economy in terms of effect of the global financial meltdown is about $3Billion.

He said the country should also consider the possibility of lending local Nigerian banks from the foreign reserve at prevailing foreign interest rates.

Governor Fashola emphasized that today, globally, the prices of so many items have dropped, adding that now is the time for the country to consider buying up some refineries overseas or even engage professionals to build new ones.

He explained that this has become necessary because most of the construction outfits and professionals abroad are experiencing a lull which could be capitalized upon now for the nation to put its major manufacturing concerns in place.

According to Governor Fashola, “this is the period when the Nigerian foreign reserves should be constructively used, because it also represents a period when the nation is free from all forms of debts and have foreign reserves”.

Continuing he added: “Truly there is recession, but has it truly affected the fundamentals of the Nigerian economy. In our critical sectors like transportation and power, there has been depression such that there are no efficient rail services operational in the country. No coaches can take us to Ibadan as an example in two hours”.

The Governor also said now that Western economies are depressed, the country needs to consider what its options are because the Nigerian economy cannot be equated to Western economy.

He wondered why the nation is crying wolf now when it has not spent its reserves adding that what is most important now is how to ensure that people are kept in employment.

Governor Fashola who was reacting to a question on what informed his meeting with business leaders in Lagos on Wednesday night said he convened the meeting because he thought the business leaders would serve as a useful source of ideas for the financial meltdown committee set up by President Umaru Musa Yar’Adua of which he is privileged to be a member.

He added that his meeting with the business leaders which is the inaugural one was also aimed at having a feel of what business leaders in Nigeria think and thinking along the line on what kind of laws can be put in place with a view to getting the business leaders informed about how the committee intends to go.

Governor Fashola who also spoke on the bill before the National Assembly on the setting aside of 3.5 percent mandatorily for Corporate Social Responsibilty said such a legislation would not be business friendly.

He added that any form of legislation which seeks to concern itself about earnings of corporate concerns which were legitimate and making it compulsive for such organizations to set aside a definite amount is not going to help the Nigerian economy.

He added that especially against the background that the country has an economy which is trying to promote Foreign Direct Investments (FDI), such a legislation may be counterproductive.

The Governor said the Lagos State Government as an example has refused to place a benchmark or tax on the issue of security in the state, especially since the business organizations have to contend with other forms of taxes which they pay to different levels of government.

He said legislations on CSR in Nigeria should rather concern itself about how integrity in governance can be promoted by enthroning probity but not legislations in terms of pecuniary needs.

On media reports that toxic items might have been dumped in the State through fairly used items, Governor Fashola said the State Environmental Protection Agency (LASEPA) would investigate and determine if indeed the items in question are toxic items.

He said the state would first investigate the issue and communicate the people who are exposed to the items and are using it to realize that they are playing with great danger.

He emphasized that the issue of fairly used items are signs of the neglect of the Nigerian economy which allows it to become a dumping ground for other economies.

On the cancelation of the election of Governor Segun Oni in Ekiti State, Governor Fashola told the newsmen that the judgment has shown that injustice cannot stand in a society of men.

He added that the pronouncement represent one of the first steps to political reform which has been taken by the judiciary and has shown that electoral malpractice would not be allowed to go unpunished.

http://www.tundefashola.com/archives/news/2009/02/19/20090219N01.html
BusinessRe: Lagos To Introduce Electric Vehicles In 2010[in A Blackout Nation] by babapupa: 6:07pm On Oct 23, 2009
Fhemmmy:
I am disappointed that Fashola of all people will make such a suggestion, there is no electricity to even charge fones, and now they wanna be able to electrically drive cars?
I will want and see.
Solar is still a viable option and power generation is out of Fashola's jurisdiction. We all know this.
BusinessRe: Lagos To Introduce Electric Vehicles In 2010[in A Blackout Nation] by babapupa: 5:57pm On Oct 23, 2009
Kobojunkie:
Hhhhmmm. . . .  if this is how you come about your version of common sense, then I probably don’t want to have what you are having.

WOW. So, all private companies that can handle this project are  100% Oyinbo in your world? There are currently NO Electric cars /hybrids in Nigeria as we speak? No private ventures already involved in this sort of project or similar in all of Nigeria, let alone Lagos? I seriously don’t want what you are having.

Doubts? Dude, I think this last line is for you.
Fine with me because you not making any sense. You even making my point for me.

Does it matter who's in holding the contract? Who cares? As long as they're employing lagosians and they're employing lagosians and they're working on the cars, it's all good.

So what's your point again?
BusinessRe: Lagos To Introduce Electric Vehicles In 2010[in A Blackout Nation] by babapupa: 5:56pm On Oct 23, 2009
cvibe:
Electric Vehicles? I guess you guys will be charging it with generators.
I believe they charge them with solar these days,

Must our thinking be crude and backward?
BusinessRe: Lagos To Introduce Electric Vehicles In 2010[in A Blackout Nation] by babapupa: 5:50pm On Oct 23, 2009
Kobojunkie:
But your question was pointless since the article or idea is not even promoted as a job-creation venture. I even posted the lines for you to read what the governor himself said. I can only speculate on whether jobs will be created or not after that. I cannot PROVE anything in that area, neither can anyone at this point.

As for your claim that installation and maintainance will create jobs, I disagree. It is possible that a private company already has the contract to handle all that and already has needed staff to deal with all that.

Yeah, I meant the hi-tech argument was pointless considering again, the idea is to help reduce emissions and not to have government workers start looking under the hood of the cars to learn the technology. Owning a computer does not make you hi-tech savvy. You actually have to apply yourself to learning how it works and how to make it do what you want for that to happen.

By the way, continually writing off what you have little grasp of as madness does not make it so.
Oh lawd,


They don't have to point nothing out to you, common sense should tell you that the freeking cars are not gonna maintain themselves and supporting infrastructures are not gonna drop down from heaven.

lol, private company handling the project, I guess they're gonna import 100% oyinbo to build infrastructure and maintain electric cars in lagos without a single lagosian on site,

Stop thinking a baby my friend, don't let misguided doubts obstruct your thinking abilities.

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