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FamilyRe: Family Section Debate by BABE3: 4:45pm On Feb 01, 2013
debosky: You sabi read so? Where did I say easy topics should be debated?

Debate a topic that will elicit strong reactions from both sides - that, is by definition, juicy and not synonymous with being 'easy'.
You sef sabi read so? Did you see the topics Dayokanu recommended ?? The regular topics seen everytime. . .

I understood what your meant by juicy. Eliciting strong reactions from people is same as being easy. . . we already know what's gonna be said anyway, at least most of it.

The topic in question is quite unconventional. It's not something that's debated every now and then; hence why I said it should be given a try.
Nairaland GeneralRe: Friends and business partners again, case closed. by BABE3: 4:34pm On Feb 01, 2013
Why isn't this on the front page ?
FamilyRe: Family Section Debate by BABE3: 4:26pm On Feb 01, 2013
debosky: The topic is not the type to generate strong opinions from either side - most will not support it so it will be a damp squib.

Pick something juicy like DK recommends.
Must we always debate the "juicy-easy" topics; the over beaten ones? Let people challenge their minds.
FamilyRe: Family Section Debate by BABE3: 4:16pm On Feb 01, 2013
coogar: val's day?
that's tedious o - my spouse won't let me touch any gadget that day. the eve of valentine is okay!
FamilyRe: Family Section Debate by BABE3: 9:37pm On Jan 31, 2013
Tgirl4real: Babe, u can cross out legal and use right.

Copied and pasted the topic as it was sent to me.

Do u wanna debate?
depends on the time. Publish the date and time and i'll decide.
FamilyRe: Being A Nigerian Housewife by BABE3: 7:51pm On Jan 31, 2013
bukatyne: Madam, MUST EVERYBODY WORK BECAUSE THEY NEED THE MONEYhuhhuhhuhhuh?? SORRY TO DISAPPOINT YOU, SOME WOMEN WILL NOT STOP WORKING EVEN IF THEY HAVE THE WHOLE WORK BECAUSE....... THEY WANT TO WORK!
***Singing olu maintain's yahoozee***

Awon kan w'aye wa s'ise, awon kan w'aye wa gba "money"!! cheesy cheesy
Nairaland GeneralRe: Friends and business partners again, case closed. by BABE3: 7:44pm On Jan 31, 2013
coogar: it's so obvious the tool was a walter mitty!
didn't he say he got a birthday gift(car) from a female admirer and when it's time to show us the car, he showed us a cake made with eba instead? nigerians are gullible, it's clear enough odiaero is a swindler. how did people entrust him with millions of naira?
grin grin Rotflmao. Eba though?

Nigerians are gullible and it's sickening. I sited some chickens praising him and addressing him as their role model on here. He even promised some of them/his "fans" vacations to some exotic island. The chickens thanked him and prayed their own "turn" for blessings is soonest.

I wonder if it's the education standard in that country or people just don't wanna use their heads.

He used to call me a hater each time I attacked him. grin
Nairaland GeneralRe: Friends and business partners again, case closed. by BABE3: 7:27pm On Jan 31, 2013
coogar: is this not the same odiaero that is a qualified pilot and has flown 300 airplanes in the last 3 yrs.
. . more like paper planes and pilot in playstation games. N1gga can lie though. . .
Nairaland GeneralRe: Friends and business partners again, case closed. by BABE3: 7:07pm On Jan 31, 2013
Ode-oniro is on the run? Daannnng!

OP, who are you (to this situation)? An agent? A 419ee? Who?
FamilyRe: Family Section Debate by BABE3:
Legal? According to which country's/state's constitution/law? Who are we to decide if it's legal? Or do you mean "legalize" (that's if it's not already legal)?

Tgirl4real: "Is it RIGHT or LEGAL for an adopted child and a child of the same parents to marry?"
Since I have the option to go with 'RIGHT' or 'LEGAL', if i decide to go with LEGAL, that's like having "is Same-$ex marraige in NewYork legal?" as a debate topic. That's no debate. It's a True/False question, so you might wanna edit the topic.
FamilyRe: Being A Nigerian Housewife by BABE3: 3:18pm On Jan 31, 2013
debosky: And she has the effrontery to ask me about vitamins? grin

I should be asking her about her temazepam and ritalin pills. grin grin
Olodo, na hin you be, if you really thought I've been arguing for useless housewives, olodo.

But I'm hoping you just pull that out of no where for the sake of not being silenced. cheesy

ileobatojo: People! Please shut down this thread right now!

It has come to my attention that I am not a working mother but a stay at home mom. I will hazard a guess that JK, Greatgod, Efe and co also fall into the category of non working, stay at home moms under this new ground breaking definition. This means we are all in agreement essentially. grin That is unless you are a jet setting workaholic angry angry in which case, you are not part of our crew!

If you fall under this umbrella and come here to argue again, I go e-slap you!

grin grin grin
This post is face-palm worthy. Lordy lord. Ileobatojo is in Hyper mode. Calm down, ma. E pele. cheesy Your energy is all over the place right now. Chanel it into saying something tangible or remain silent. Stop ridiculing yourself please.

MMotimo: Back to work. . . . . . my household's goals are not currently achievable on one income. THAT, my friends, is the reason why I work else I would be a volunteer at the library - yes, pure honesty!
Ileobatojo, you see that? grin
FamilyRe: Being A Nigerian Housewife by BABE3: 2:43pm On Jan 31, 2013
ileobatojo: Lol! grin grin

You will not be happy until we are all forced to brag eh! Don't worry, I'm not yet willing to go down that route. But please, carry on if it makes you happy. Who am I to get in the way of your deluded pleasure. kiss
Working mom = jetsetting, workaholic.
Stay at home mom = work 8-3, then pick up kids from school.

grin grin
Honesty is key! cheesy
FamilyRe: Being A Nigerian Housewife by BABE3: 2:34pm On Jan 31, 2013
ileobatojo: Lol! grin grin

Working mom = jetsetting, workaholic.
Stay at home mom = work 8-3, then pick up kids from school.

grin grin
Ileobatojo, don't you just secretly wish you were a housewife? cheesy
Lounging with your kid/s? Having a good time with them? Have your whole life centered around them? Don't you just wish you have that luxury to worry less about when your next pay check will emerge, because its all about your kids? Arggh!

Life sucks, doesn't it ?!
Not everyone will have the iPhone5, some will be stuck with Nokia3310 till Jesus comes, but at least, lets be honest with ourselves. smiley
If you keep basking in your "my nokia3310 is better than an iphone5", the dude next door that had the plan to give you an iphone5 as a gift will change his mind, because he'll think you don't want it, meanwhile na lie. . .

Nigerians and their "ako"!! cheesy
FamilyRe: Being A Nigerian Housewife by BABE3: 2:13pm On Jan 31, 2013
debosky: It is a valid analogy - empty opinion can never trump real life experience. Never.

Now we're shifting goal posts - we're only talking about 'workaholics' not all working mums. Heck why don't we only talk about 'irresponsible housewives' who spend all their time shagging their neighbours' drivers instead of looking after their kids? cheesy

This was a general discussion comparing housewives with working mums and the merits/demerits therein, not some narrow subset you're (belatedly) trying to create.
.

Lol! Debosky, you okay? grin You've had your vitamin pills??

You really think I've been arguing for useless housewives ?

Oga, go and sit down. Your time is up in this argument.


[quote author=BABE!]Abi? The case of a woman lurking around the neighborhood with wrapper tied around her chest, eating everything in sight and gossiping with her crew while her unkempt child is in the house crying for hours with mucus dripping from his nostrils, is not valid in this argument.

We are taking about a housewife that knows her main job; to take care of her kids!![/quote]
FamilyRe: Being A Nigerian Housewife by BABE3: 1:47pm On Jan 31, 2013
debosky: Who denied you an opinion? Did you actually read what I said? All I've said is that your opinion is theory.

To use your analogy, I would have higher regard for the opinion of someone who has actually cooked and eaten filet mignon compared to someone who has only seen it in a cookery book. grin
what are you still on about? That's not an analogy.. It's completely different from what I said. What is good is good; across the board( especially when it's comes to having time for your kids).

Holding an opinion of someone that doesn't have a choice but to work tirelessly 9-6 in higher regards? Sweet!! cheesy
Now please help me ask your people, if given the chance, if given the opportunity not to work as much or work at all and focus on their kids, would they go with it?

Mind you, don't ask them in the presence of their enemies (housewives), they won't tell the truth. Ask them
privately. . . and come back with your results.

debosky: I'm not trying to prove one is always better than the other - all I've shown is that it can be better dependent on all the factors involved. To generalise that one is better in all cases is quite foolish - that's the point here.
Debosky, give me a situation where not having time for your kids is better than having time for them, biko. Coz you keep talking some invisible factors.

debosky: Again with the silly extremist view - working is not equivalent to not having 'enough time' for your kids, neither is being a housewife equivalent to having 'enough time'.
Lord a mercy!!!

I don't need to spell this out na. When I'm talking about a housewife, I'm talking about a woman that knows her duties!!!
When I'm talking about a working mum, I'm talking about a workaholic!!! The kind of mum that would miss her 2 yr old's recital because she has to travel to Abuja at 6am on Monday morning.

Fûcking duh! cheesy

Even if those aren't the cases. . . still, give me a situation where less time is better. At Least one.
FamilyRe: Being A Nigerian Housewife by BABE3: 1:21pm On Jan 31, 2013
coogar: of course!
he's been everywhere - he's been through everything he's argued for/against on this forum. he's been in the white house too!
Actually, what uncle debosky is saying is that he should not be taken seriously on most issues. His opinions don't deserve no attention or respect. Heck, his opinions don't even make sense to him, coz all na theory. grin
FamilyRe: Being A Nigerian Housewife by BABE3: 1:03pm On Jan 31, 2013
debosky: A theory is something you've not put into practice. Simple.

Do you have kids? Have you been a working mum or a stay at home mum? If you haven't, you're spouting theory and nothing else - when you've actually 'been there and done that', then your opinion may carry more weight.
Okay, so because I'm not a certified cook, I can't give an opinion about food?
What the French are you on about?

debosky: But it isn't - one isn't better than the other. Denmark has 74% of mothers in work, not being housewives and it is producing better outcomes for children than other countries like the UK or the US with higher percentages of housewives.
Mothers. . . mothers to 30 year olds or mothers to 5/10 year olds? How many percentage of the 74 are mothers to matured kids? What year was this "survey" taken? Where did you get it from? Does the same stat. apply to every other country compared to Denmark?

debosky: The truth is that you cannot generalise what is better for any two cases - it depends on the individual circumstances, societal pressures and the views of those involved.
Okay. Lemme sum this up;

A has a Nokia 3310, B has an iPhone5. B tells A his phone is top notch that A should try getting it. A tells B to fûck off with his yeye fragile phone. . . "my phone came out before yours. apple na copy copy sef. they don't have original ideas. I actually prefer the samsung galaxy."

Does that change the fact that apple is Berra? cheesy

Like I said, even the poor call the rich arrogant.

I don't know how not having enough time for your kids can be better than having enough time for them. Please provide an example of such very rare situation. . . give me something to work with here.
FamilyRe: Being A Nigerian Housewife by BABE3: 12:38pm On Jan 31, 2013
jennykadry: She's always worked before marriage and after marriage. Stayed home for 6 and half months after each child and returned to work.
That's why I put the IQ in quote
Ok, ma'am.
FamilyRe: Being A Nigerian Housewife by BABE3: 12:33pm On Jan 31, 2013
jennykadry: There is this well known politician whose wife is a working class lady. He once said that his wife is someone that cannot be idle and needs to face challenges everyday because it helps with her "IQ". The man is in support of it cos he reckons his wife staying at home can be damaging to her intelligence at this stage. 90% of her salary goes into charity. Tell me how much that woman makes that the husband should rely on? A man that can get 100,000 dollars in a day? What will he use her money for? undecided

There are men out there that appreciate the fact their wives do not want to remain idle but busy one way or the other. Like Steve Harvey said, don't hate the player, change the game cool
Does the wife have kids to care of?
IQ though? grin grin This is serious.
FamilyRe: Being A Nigerian Housewife by BABE3:
debosky: It's quite interesting that many of the combatants on this thread do not have any parenting nor marriage experience, but deem it fit to make sweeping generalisations on either side of the divide.

Theory is one thing, reality is another.

The ones I respect are those that have seen/experienced both sides - being a working mum and staying home as they have the valid life experiences.

Don't get too hung up on your theories - if you do, you might just be unable to adapt if/when life throws you a curveball.
Kini n wi? undecided grin

A "theory" is focusing on making your child your number one priority? A "theory" is working tirelessly towards making your child your number one priority?

If life now throws you a yeye curveball like you said, and you're not able to devote your time to your kids, why then do you justify it? Why are we even arguing here? Every normal parents ( I repeat, normal) craves the opportunity and luxury to take care of their kid's needs (especially when they're still young). If all working mothers were asked to stop working, and sufficient/excess money will be put in their accounts, and they should all go home and focus on their kids! The normal ones will leap for joy!!

We've established the fact that they "have no choice" but to work! Ok! Meaning, if things were better, na housewife things. Why then would the workaholics call the housewives leaches? Jealousy? Envy? Hate?

Why then is there even an argument? One is better than the other, kapish! Now, that's the reality!

If the workaholics could just admit that their husbands' income can't feed 2 mouths, instead of arguing foolishly to justify their yeye stance, then this argument will take a right turn. I'll simply advice them not to make more babies; not to compound their tailor-made problem.. cheesy

Ujujoan: You sound very bitter . . .
What's the matter? Are you a HW? It's ok, no need to get defensive. It's nothing to be ashamed of! wink cheesy
Reversed thinking at it's best. Ashamed of being a housewife? Ashamed of having all the time for your kids? Ashamed that your husband can cater for your whole family singlehandedly? Ashamed that you don't have to work?
Ashamed of what exactly?
Lordy lord!
FamilyRe: My Sister In Law Slapped Me by BABE3: 11:47am On Jan 31, 2013
alakori: I went to their house to confront her about it and we started to exchange words. I called her a thief. Her mother ( my mother-in-law) asked her to deal with me and she slapped me twice. I did not retaliate.
That's where you messed up! You don't go into another person's territory, pick fights and expect nothing! It doesn't matter if they're right or wrong. Once you're in their territory, you're a threat to them, and they will do anything to "protect" themselves.

You don't go to people's house to pick fights and expect a royal treatment.

A thread was created a while ago about a jobless sister in law that went to her brother's house to pick fights with his wife. The husband beat the joblessness out of the silly sister, because she was invading!

So next time, think carefully before you act/fight.
FamilyRe: Being A Nigerian Housewife by BABE3: 3:55am On Jan 31, 2013
MMotimo: Most of these Naija women work because they do not have a choice, period! Shouting career is just boju boju. No shame in saying your household cannot live on your husband's income alone. If there was a choice, how many of the menfolk sef would be working?
Buhahahaha!! grin

That's the wahala with most people calling housewives leaches and lazy arses. The same way the poor will call the rich arrogant. cheesy
FamilyRe: Being A Nigerian Housewife by BABE3: 10:56pm On Jan 29, 2013
ileobatojo: It's easy to say when you already can/or are guaranteed to be able to provide the world for the kids isn't it? wink
Are you saying I'm rich? cheesy Coogar is the millionaire providing the money o, I'm the one to change the smelly diapers and turn a baby monitor into my cellphone. Actually, there won't be a need for a baby monitor coz i'll be staring into his/her eyes/lids 24/7. wink
FamilyRe: Being A Nigerian Housewife by BABE3: 10:36pm On Jan 29, 2013
[quote author=Efemena_xy]Really?

How?

Knitting?

Gossiping over the fence with an oversized dressing gown, flip flops and rollers in my hair?

Taking out my frustration on the kids??

Please, enlighten me...[/quote]You want me to list out the usefulness of education? Haba, aunty? cheesy I can't o. Ask any kid around you. They'll tell you.

Btw, you leaving the workforce to take care of your kids is/can be temporary. Duh! grin
FamilyRe: Being A Nigerian Housewife by BABE3:
[quote author=Efemena_xy]In addition to that, an education on females is wasted as their only role in life is to bear and "nuture" children.
...[/quote]Is that your only role in life? Because you're not "working" with your degree doesn't mean your education is wasted, darling. cheesy The use of education is vast.

[quote author=Efemena_xy]once they've attained such dizzying heights, they MUST forget about work and focus soley on the kids. They MUST be mad to entertain the thought of working...oh no, otherwise they'll end up rearing hooligans, benefit deadbeats and all manner of societal misfits![/quote]You working and raising a kid doesn't mean you'll raise an 1d1ot.

You're fine with your child ending up like "every other person"; having an upbringing like "every other person". Cute.

See, coogar, it's a free-world, some embrace mediocrity, some don't. Ain't no crime in that.
FamilyRe: Being A Nigerian Housewife by BABE3: 10:15pm On Jan 29, 2013
coogar: this phrase is so fücking funny, we all know freedom is based off the money!
how does one give a child quality upbringing if one cannot afford it? you either not have that child till you can afford the quality you want for him or you forget giving him quality upbringing and settle for less. it's that simple!!!
There are many kids not being properly taken care of. After we're done with this argument, parents will still make more babies to "fill up space". Who's gonna shoot them? . . . so far they're eating good and going to school.

So my dear, na free world.

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