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Mukina

Please I still cant get the gist. Please lets talk privately. I tried your phone number but it didnt go. May Allah forgive her and grant her Al-Janah Firdaus and to all Muslims. (Amin). We still need to talk before I post further.

Nice post. You have said it all. Where is Bastage?

Salam brother.

May Allah increase your knowledge. The guy Olaadegbu has been saying all sort of things without proper understanding.

@Cayon

On circumcised women - What does the Shariah say on this and what are the Prophet’s words regarding this?

Its not allowed in Islam as there is no Hadith or Quranic verses supporting this. The Hadiths talked about male circumcision and there is nowhere Female should be circumcised in Islam.


Narrated 'Abdullah bin Yazid Al-Ansari: "The Prophet forbade robbery (taking away what belongs to others without their permission), and also forbade mutilation (or maiming) of bodies. (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Oppressions, Volume 3, Book 43, Number 654)"

Narrated Abu Huraira: "Allah's Apostle said 'The Prophet Abraham circumcised himsel[/b]f after he had passed the age of eighty years and he circumcised himself with an adze.'

Narrated Said bin Jubair: Ibn 'Abbas was asked, 'How old were you when the Prophet died?' He replied.' At that time I had been circumcised.' At that time, people did not circumcise the boys till they attained the age of puberty. Sa'id bin Jubair said, 'Ibn Abbas said, When the Prophet died, [b]I had already been circumcised.' (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Asking Permission, Volume 8, Book 74, Number 313)"

@Frizy

This thread has been systematically taken to the politics section Olabols, babs, mcusman . . . defend the deen.https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-205554.0.html

Salam brother. I have been there but saw that one of our brothers has replied and I tried posting but couldnt but would hold on till its released.

@Christians

What is your problem with Shariah? Dont you know that even actions, doings in Islam is in line with Shariah?

@Cayon

hanks babs. However, I must admit that you are not too clear on your response or its me being dense Undecided I'll respond to your question asap

I saw your emboldened words but still do not understand what seemed unclear. The Hadiths and explanations are very straight forward.

@Kola Oloye

Simple : It starts with N, which is my initial and it means light, so you can now guess.

I got it.

I was there my sister but today i thank GOD for everything am no longer in bondage.
Remember what the bible says "if the son shall set you free,you shall be free indeed" Grin

What set you free? You better dont deceive yourself. I was like before seeing the light. You and I may discuss through mails issues if you care and I bet it with you that, you made a greatest mistake by leaving ISLAM if you were.

I even read your post where you claimed that there is no forgiveness and one of my brothers asked if you ever offended God and He didn't forgive you or you care to tell me how you arrived at that claim.

Maybe if you could hold a conversation with with regards to the two religions, then we use both books as our back iup.

I could remember when you posted some verses you claimed supported Violence and had to explain the verses to you and it seems the 'free salvation' as preached by Pauline doctrine is what attracted you the religion, that once you accept him as this and that, you are saved.

You also have section where you could channel your questions and if you care, I could take u up on your journey to christianity and would realize that there is nothing as sweet as being a Muslim. I was born, bred as a christian before seeing the light.

Decision is yours

What did Islam says about kindness to parent?

Aseer ibn Jaabir narrates: Whenever people would come from Yemen, Umar would ask them, "Is Uways Al-Qaranee amongst you?" until, one year, he met Uways. He said, "Are you Uways Al-Qaranee?" He said, "Yes." Umar continued, "From Muraad, then Qaran?" He said, "Yes." Umar then asked, "Were you once afflicted with leprosy and your skin healed except for a dirham's area?" Uways said, "Yes." Umar finally asked, "Do you have a mother (that is alive)?" He said, "Yes."

Umar then said, "I heard the Messenger of Allah (SAW) say, ‘Uways ibn Aamir will come to you with the delegations from Yemen, from Muraad, then from Qaran. He was once afflicted with leprosy and his skin healed except for a dirham's area. He has a mother, and he treats her kindly. If he was to ever swear by Allah (for something), Allah (SWA) would fulfill his oath. If you can, request that he ask forgiveness for you." Umar then requested from Uways, "Ask forgiveness for me." And Uways Al-Qaranee did.

Allah (SWA) commanded us, [And your Lord decreed that you should worship none but Him and that you be dutiful to your Parents. If one of them or both attain old age in your life, then do not say to them uff (a word of disrespect), nor shout at them, rather address them in terms of honour / And lower for them the wing of submission and humility through mercy. And say, "My Lord! Grant them Your Mercy as they brought me up when I was small."] - Al-Israa' 17/23-24

Ad-Daylami collected from Al-Husayn ibn Ali, that the Prophet (SAW) said, "If Allah knew any smaller than uff (tsk) to be disrespectful to parents, He would have decreed it to be Haram!"

In Bukhari, a man came to the Prophet (SAW) seeking permission to go for Jihad. The Prophet (SAW) asked him, "Are your Parents alive?" He said, "Yes." He (SAW) said, "Perform Jihad (in you kind treatment) of them."

If someone came to you today and offered you a free lunch, what would be your response? No doubt you would smile, speak kindly to them, and reserve a special place in your heart for their memory. Why is it then that our parents receive only cold stares, harsh words and bitter treatment and they are who they are in our lives? For Twenty or Thirty years they fed us, clothed us, washed us, and showered their mercy on our soft skin. Their love for us never dies even if we do, love that goes even beyond us, to our children and even their children.

Dear Brothers and Sisters, we all have parents - whether they are with us or not - and many have not understood the severity of their position in our lives and their right to be respected and revered. Today I want to remind you and I of the true position of our Parents, may Allah (SWA) have mercy on them all.

Birr Al-Waalidayn is a characteristic of the Mu'min. Al-Hasan Al Basree defined it saying, "Al-Birr is to obey the parents in everything that they ask so long as it is not to disobey Allah. Uqooq is to disown your parents, denying them all of your goodness."

By the Ijma' of the Ulamaa', being respectful and obedient to ones parents is Fard! Ibn Hazm said, "(Obeying ones parents) is Fard!" and he quoted the verse: [And your Lord decreed that you should worship none but Him and that you be dutiful to your Parents.]

To better understand what is meant by Birr Al-Walidayn (kindness to parents), the scholars set the following conditions:

· One: He should place the pleasure of his parents above the pleasure of anyone else, including himself and his wife and kids. Everyone.

· Two: He should obey them in everything they command or forbid, whether it agrees with his desires or not, so long as they do not command the disobedience of Allah (SWA).

· Three: He should present them with everything he feels they desire, whether they ask for it or not. He should present it with kindness and mercy, understanding - no matter what he does - his shortcomings in fulfilling the true kindness that his parents deserve.

Allah (SWA)'s love comes when our parents love us. And Allah (SWA)'s anger comes when our parents are angry with us. Ibn Abbas raa said, "There are three things that will not be accepted if it's mate is not fulfilled. (And he mentioned), [Thank Me (Allah) and your Parents, ] - Luqmaan 31/14.

Ibn Abbaas continued, "Thus whoever thanks Allah (SWA) and is not thankful to his parents, Allah (SWA) will not accept from him. The Prophet (SAW) said, ‘the Pleasure of Allah is from the pleasure of the parents, and the anger of Allah is from the anger of the parents."

Let us think about how many of us treat our parents. We shy away from them when they may need something. We never visit if we are away from them. In fact, many people dispose of their parents in retirement homes. And when an argument ignites between our parents and us, many of us shout at them as if we were arguing with our evilest enemy, May Allah (SWA) protect us all.

Compare this to those that came before us. Dhibyaan ibn Ali ath-Thowree (RA) used to travel with his mother to Makkah. There - in the scorching heat - he would dig a little pool and fill it with cool water. Then he would turn to his mother and say, "Ummi, sit in this water to cool yourself."

For many of us, our friends are more precious to us than our Mother and Father. Forgetful we are of the time a man came to the Prophet (SAW) and asked him who is more worthy of his dear companionship. He (SAW) said, "your Mother!" The man asked again and again, and the Prophet (SAW) replied, "Your Mother! Your Mother!" Until on the fourth time he (SAW) said, "Your Father." Today, when the common question is asked, "Who is your best friend?" How many people would say, "my Mother!" But this is how the question should be answered and implemented.

What pleases our parents comes before everything, so long as it is not in disobedience of Allah (SWA). The scholars understood this and set the example for us. Haywah bin Shurayh (RA), one of the Imam's of our Ummah, used to give classes in front of his home. During the class, his Mother would call him to feed the chickens. He would stand up, leave the Halaqah, and go feed the chickens.

We all want Allah (SWA) to accept from us, we would all like to enter Paradise. Look down - dear brothers and sisters - and you will find paradise at the feet of your mother. Narrated Ahmad and An-Nasaa'ee, from Mu'aawiyah ibn Jaahimah As-Sulamee: My father, Jaahimah (RA) went to the Prophet (SAW) and asked, "O Messenger of Allah, I would like to go out and fight for the sake of Allah, and I have come to you for advice." The Prophet (SAW) asked him[b], "Is your Mother alive?" He said, "Yes." "Then stay near her," advised the Prophet (SAW), "For at her feet is Jannah!"[/b]

On the other side, making our Parents sad or even making them cry is one of the many ways to earn Allah (SWA)'s anger. Imam Ahmad narrates, from Abdullah ibn ‘Amr ibn Al-Aas (RA[b]): A man came to the Prophet (SAW) to give him his pledge of Allegiance. He said, "I have come to pledge allegiance to you for Hijrah! And I have left both my parents behind crying" The Prophet (SAW) commanded him, "Go back, and the same way that you made them cry, make them laugh."[/b]

Shaykh al-Qaasim once said, "Subhaan Allah! How can we leave our parents sobbing, tears that the throne of Allah (SWA) shakes for, tears that unsettle the Angels in the heavens, and then we claim that we want to go for Jihad so that Allah (SWA) will be pleased with us? Go back and make them happy with your visit as you made them sad by your departure. If they laugh and are pleased with you, Allah (SWA) will be pleased."

During the funeral of his mother, Al-Haarith Al-Aklee (RA) weeped. When asked for the reason of his tears he said, "Why should I not cry when one of my doors to Paradise has now closed?"

Remember dear brothers and sisters as you meet your parents today, the words of Rasul Allah (SAW) "Fa feehima fa Jaahid! Do Jihad in (your kind treatment of) your parents."

O Allah (SWA), forgive us and our parents, and reward them with the finest reward.

O Allah (SWA), elevate their position in the hereafter and this Dunya; make that which befalls them an expiation for their sins.

O Allah (SWA), grant them residence in Firdows, the highest level of Jannah, with the Prophets, the Siddeeqeen, and the Martyrs. Ameen!”

Brothers and Sisters, Please Always Remember!!

Due Striving for Allah's Approval

Man strives hard to attain worldly favors on which he sets his mind as being the ultimate goal in life. He does his utmost to gain material prosperity, recognition of social status, or some other worldly benefit. For a paltry price that will slip out of his hands in a very short while, he makes an all-out effort.

Muslims, who aspire to a much greater reward, that is, to the approval of Allah and His Garden, also strive hard for their cause. Of this attribute Allah says the following:

[If any do wish for the transitory things (of this life), We readily grant them — such things as We will, to such person as We will. But then We will appoint for him Hell where he will roast, reviled and rejected. But as for anyone who desires the hereafter, and strives for it as he ought to, being a believer, his endeavours will be gratefully acknowledged.] (Al-Israa' 17:18-19)

A believer strives with "all due striving" for the approbation of Allah and for the hereafter. He "sells" his property and his life for the cause of Allah. In the Qur'an, this characteristic of believers is explained as follows:

(Allah has bought from the believers their selves and their wealth in return for the Garden. They fight in the Way of Allah and they kill and are killed. It is a promise binding on Him in the Torah, the Injil and the Qur'an and who is truer to his contract than Allah? Rejoice then in the bargain you have made. That is the great victory.) (At-Tawbah 9: 111)

No difficulty a believer encounters in the way of Allah thwarts his commitment, provided that he has sold "his property and self" to Allah. Nothing but Allah's approbation has any attraction for him. Aware that he is not the "owner" of his body and property, he never follows the vain desires of the self (nafs). Allah is the owner of his body and everything he owns, and they will be put to service in compliance with Allah's will.

This aside, whether one's determination is serious will also be tested by Allah. A believer must not avoid any struggle on Allah's path. That is because had there been any question of "easy gains," hypocrites might also perform any deed that has the appearance of being in compliance with Allah's will — and not the actual deed with which Allah will be pleased — to attain this "easy gain":

[If it had been a case of easy gains and a short journey, they would have followed you, but the distance was too great for them. They will swear by Allah: "Had we been able to, we would have gone out with you." They are destroying their own selves. Allah knows that they are lying.] (At-Tawbah 9:42)

Therefore, the only criterion for being a believer is to feel a sincere desire to seek Allah's approval and not to refrain from making any sacrifices on the way of Allah when circumstances call for such sacrifices. Believers are those who are (purified with a pure thought, remembrance of the Home (of the Hereafter)) (Saad 38:46). A believer does not seek any benefit other than Allah's approbation. He hopes to please Allah, have His mercy, and attain Paradise because (anyone, male or female, who does right actions and is a believer, will enter Paradise . They will not be wronged by so much as the tiniest speck) (An-Nisaa' 4:124).

ED IL KABIR TO MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS and may Allah grant us strong health to be able to witness more. (Amin)

@Dafidixone

I myself love abiding by the rules but your emboldened words made me stop over to contribute just a cent.

I hope the moderators are paying attention to this type of post(Check the rules). Let this man read his quarani and have real understanding of it before going into other books he claim he has the knowledge. I have a lot of question on Islam but just trying to abide by the rules here. If not Islam will be exposed and you will know those that are serving the only true God.

Please endeavor to do that in Islamic section. Prepare all your questions and I would meet you there Insha Allah.

@Tru Brit

Welcome onboard

Did you in any way read my response to DayoKanu? If you did, you wouldnt be questionining Olabowale's post as the verses you hide under have been explained but I would still flip through your post.

How foolish can you be? You have ranted and ranted until you spewed forth trash.

Let me read from whom the knowledge is bestowed saying someone is foolish.

Jesus Christ could not be a christian because the religion is modelled on him.

What religion are you talking about when he never heard the word christian nor brought any belief different from those before him.

If Jesus happens to be a christian, what are the religion of those before him as our God is not author of confusion, giving prophets and messengers different religions, beliefs and doctrines.

Thus christians are supposed to be Christ like and christianity is the art of being like Christ i.e. the practice of Jesus Christ's doctrines and principle (acting in a manner like Jesus Christ did).

What do you mean by christlike? Are you referring to God of the OT or NT because some of your folks claimed that Jesus is God and going through the bible, one would see that God of the OT is quite different from that of NT and shared different personalities. When you even read your NT (thats where you like running to when discussing issues), you would see that Jesus didnt want to die and trued putting up a defence.

Did your Quran tell you that Jesus was a muslim? what a friggin joke. I guess your Mohammed came before Jesus to this world then huh?

Its not a joke brother, it is the fact. Jesus is a muslim likewise those before him. Could you bring up a verse from your book that shows that he is a muslim and I would give you verses showing you that He is a muslim from my book. Also if he is a christian, what of those before him as God couldnt have sent them with different messages.

Point of correction, Jesus came before him and Muhammed (saw) is the last prophet.

LMAO. . . You guys forget that your Quran tells you that Jesus is actually the son of God (or rather, you always attempt to brush that very important fact under the carpet).\

Please, share the verse with me, please, please, please. I want to learn from you.

Yes Bastage is mr. know all.

@Kweenisha=the Babyosis

How can someone who calls the Bible worthless be a Christian.
Babs na wa for you
Is Christian the opposite of Muslim?

The guy supported most of your doctrines especially that of trinity and I even asked him if we could discuss little about trinity looking into the bible as reference since he is educated and knows most things about the two religions.

No vex for me Nne, I thought he is a christian, so need of discussing with him as a christian.

@Bastage

babs787. Don't flatter yourself my dear. Being a student of theology and therefore more open-minded and educated, I[b] probably know more about "your" religion than you ever will [/b]- especially with you being hampered by your ability to comprehend (poorly) only what the other brain-washed drones tell you.

Oga, I dont deal with boasters like you but believe in facts. It is even good that you know lots about my religion and it would do you good if you and I discuss the religion with facts and not just story telling so that I would learn from you.

When you are ready, set the ball rolling,

@arramyjay

Now that is very mean,If people can't read the HOLY QU'RAN and follow simple instruction then it is sad.
If the Qu'ran teaches that Muslims should blow up themselves then i don't think they will be any Muslim left on earth.
It is really simple just think u will figure it out.

Please help me tell Bastage.

@Bastage

explained why that was irrelevant. It doesn't matter what the Qu'ran says; if you think that the Crusaders were Christian as their actions were contrary to their scriptures. With the logic used by you guys, the Crusaders couldn't have been Christians if suicide bombers aren't Muslims. Go back and read what I wrote again.

I leave in you in your state of confusion. When you are here for discussion that has to do with facts from both books, then you have me.

So answer the question: Were the Crusaders Christians?

You are here asking a question when I asked you and enboldened it but you pretended not to have seen it:

You claimed that it has everything to do with Islam but you couldnt support your fact with Quranic verses or Hadith. Do I say the atrocities committed by Christians has everything to do with Christianity? I am here for you if you are also for a discussion, going through history and journeying through both books.

Oh yeah. Stop calling it my Bible. T[b]he majority of it is as worthless[/b] as the Qu'ran.

Are you not a christian? Your bible may be worthless which you as a christian admitted but my Quran is not and if you really want to try your luck on my book, you may create a thread on that or raise issue here on it and we discuss

@Karmamod

Is it only Muslim men that allowed to marry Christians/Jews?

You people have YET to answer this question ESPECIALLY you, olabowole.

YES

@Javalove

You beat me to this dear brother :

Again LMAO. The authors of the Qur'an were hardly going to allow that to happen were they? If they'd have allowed choice and not relied on fear and persuasion, Islam wouldn't have lasted a month.

I wanted to reply but you outsmart me. Thanks for the response jare. I am not even sure most of them know their religion let alone coming to this section to discuss about my religion.


@Bastage

Do you think the Quran was compiled like your bible? Do you need us to go through your bible from Genesis to Revelation and if its 100% words of God?

@Bastage

act: The people mentioned call themselves Muslims. Wether you like it or not. Wether you agree with it or not. They commit these acts in the name of Islam.

It doesn't matter what it says in the Qu'ran. That has absolutely no relevance whatsoever. If it does, then were the Crusades undertaken by Christians? Yes or No?

If you answer yes, you've merely proven that you are either a hypocrite or a liar if you continue to state that the people who blow themselves up have nothing to do with Islam.

Fact. Period. Got it?

I thought you would arrive at a reasonable discussion backing your allegation with what I requested but you couldnt do that. I asked the question when you said:

When those people blow themselves and others up in the name of Islam it has everything to do with Islam.
Turning a blind eye and saying "It's not our problem" is why the rest of the world villifies the Islamic world.

You claimed that it has everything to do with Islam but you couldnt support your fact with Quranic verses or Hadith. Do I say the atrocities committed by Christians has everything to do with Christianity? I am here for you if you are also for a discussion, going through history and journeying through both books.

Lest I forget, do you care if you and I discuss TRINITY in this thread https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-202376.0.html and we use your Bible as reference because I noticed you ignored the links I supplied and I still have a detailed discussion I had with Lady where I talked on some verses linked to TRINITY?

@Bastage

When those people blow themselves and others up in the name of Islam it has everything to do with Islam.

Did you type the above for typing sake or with facts? Do you care to share with me where Islam supports blowing up of themselves be it in the Quran or Hadith.