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@babyosis,


You are just too hilarious. Its now you know that you should not indulge in any debate. I am not debating to win either but to bring out the facts, proofs etc for those that will still be around to read everything posted on this websites after we might have left nairaland. You know that I have not been quoting wrong verses but bringing out some verses for you which you do not know that they ever exist in the bible.

I know that Paul wrote many letters, he even wrote 20 books in the NT.

I aso read your verses from the book of Romans but am not after the book of Romans but Corinthians. You have not answered the questions on the letters to the corinthians.

Here are the questions again:

1. Can we say that the First letter written to the Corinthians is really the First letter to them? Yes/No

2. Then, what happened to Paul's first letter to the Corinthians?


Note: The above questions are on the letters to the Corinthians only and not to all the letters written by Paul in the bible.





@davidylan

I read both. They are both holy books   . Honestly, you have no issue(s) to discuss in Islam except on extremism and terrorism while there are lorry load of questions on all the doctrines in christianity.

I spend most of my times reading the Quran and other related Islamic texts. You know that an individual must know his/her religion very well before knowing others because I learnt that you people are a very hard nut to crack   . Any muslim that does not know anything about his/her religion will just be looking at anything you paste because he/she never knew anything about his/her religion let alone reading the Quran. The truth about the bible is that, its just like a story book or novel, you keep reading different stories, letters etc. Very funny and interesting

My brother backslider has been bringing out verses from the Quran which we have been treating together. Besides, you never believe the Quran, so one need to give you what you believe in.

As for the Imam, no cause for alarm, a muslim must seek for knowledge. Imam is not the one that brought Islam, Islam has been in existence before him. He cannot preach any thing aside the Quran, Sunnah etc for me and expect me to accept, never.



@backslider

What is the meaning of your post? Your post is a total deviation from what we are discussing.

God does not kill without warning, meaning he killed those that didnt heed his words!! Thats in the OT

But again God Jesus never killed in the NT!!

Na wa o?

@babyosis,

Honestly, you are being dishonest. You know at times, your posts do not make sense because you are very fond of jumping here and there, running from questions on christianity but always around to reply to those on Islam.


These discussions recently were centered around a teacher that was killed because she was said to have desecrated the Koran.
These boys did not pick up such a mindset from the air neither did they drink it off the larvae infested water of Gombe,they are following the example of a "prophet" they regard highly and that is what bothers every peace loving person.

I am tired of you. I have told myself never to indulge in any debate that lacks proof or evidence. Having you been reading verses from the Quran going against killing, extremism etc, yet you pretended as if you have not been seeing the verses. I have been telling you times without number that no sane muslims will kill his/her fellow being, afterall no being is greater than or special to another. We may be of different religion, tribe etc, that does not give room for an individual or group of individual to take life or lives of another person or group of individuals, God does not condone killing and extremism.Anybody that kill is not a muslim, get that straight. Let me add some verses to buttress all I have been saying:

Quran 2 v 195: And make not your hands contribute to your destruction; but do good; for God loves those who do good.

If Islam prohibits the killing of one's own life, how would Islam encourages the killing of others and the use of violence and a recourse to terrorism or extremism! Islam has disparaged extremism/terrorism and cautioned muslims of its bad and dangerous consequences. Extremism is condemned by Islam even if its done in a jest.

It happend that Amr Ibn Rabe'a during prophet' s time, heard that a man hid the shoes of another man just to tease and annoy him. The Prophet being told of this incident said to Muslims:

'Never scare or frighten a Muslim, for frightening a Muslim is a grave oppression".

The other version of the same incident is narrated as follows:

"It is unlawful for a Muslim to scare a fellow Muslim"

The same incident Tabarani as follows:

"The Prophet said, 'he who gives a frightening look to a Muslim, without a lawful reason, God shall scare him on the Day of Judgment.

Another version says:

"The prophet said: He who points at his fellow muslim with a piece of Iron, the Angels curse him as long as he holds that Iron - even if he does it to his immediate brother.

Also Quran 5 v 32; , On that account, we ordained for the children of Israel that if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole of mankind, and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people.

Quran 5 v 2: Help one another in what is good and pious, not in what is wicked and sinful. Have fear of Allah, for He is stern in retribution.

Quran 49 v 12 - 12: believers, let no man mock another man, who may perhaps be better than himself. Let no woman mock another woman, who may perhaps be better than herself. Do not defame one another nor call one another by nicknames. It is an evil thing to be called by a bad name after embracing the true faith. Those that do not repent are wrongdoers. Believers avoid immoderate suspicion, for in some cases, suspicion is a crime. Do not spy on one another, nor backbite one another. Would any of you like to ea the flesh of his dead brother? Surely you would loathe it. Have fear of Allah. He is forgiving and merciful.

Quran 41 v 34 – 35: Good and evil are not alike, requite evil with good, and he who is your enemy will become your dearest friend. But none will attain this save those who endure with fortitude and are greatly favoured by Allah.

Prophet Muhammed also said:]

“A muslim is he who dies no physical or verbal harm to his fellow believers.

“A believer is he whom people would trust for their property and physical beings

Let me stop here. It is left for you to accept or reject my post.



Christ was sinless,his preachings and life example was all love,he never killed or instructed anyone to be killed and his followers strive by His Spirit to live the same way.

Unless you want to tell me that God of the OT is different from NT. I have asked you that question but you waived it aside.

@stimulus


I had the premonition that you were going to reharsh already weathered arguments here as in previous threads. Rest your heart, as it's not my style to push for unsubstantiated lingusitic misconceptions paraded by Muslim so-called 'scholars' who have no idea of the Hebrew language. That is why your efforts to sweat out their misconceptions is untenable here.


You know what, thats just the problem with most christians here on nairaland. You believe that you are the most knowledgeable. You always think that yours should be the most acceptable, thereby ignoring others.

It is not new for christians to utter the above when they are being cornered.

Did Jesus ever heard the word 'Jehovah' during his ministry? Was Jehovah part of Aramaic language.

I am leaving you in your drivel. Its a free world.

okay.

GUNNER FOR LIFE

Mukina dont mind them jare, we are gunners and we will always be.

No Rooney will be the future Muhammed Ali

Hugoboi, take your time o

Like I said, I have no response to your post. I wanted to dig deep into the issue of extremism, terrorism but learnt that it would be of no use. Islam does not support extremism and terrorism. If you like believe and if you like do not believe, nothing more on that.

So its a free world and there is freedom of expression. So carry on

@davidylan

Mukina2, no one is replying to your childish posts! Let more mature albeit decietful individuals post then we will respond.


Honestly, I wanted to reply you but I noticed that you do believe that you are on top of the world and you can talk to people anyhow.

You are seeking the post of a matured deceitful person!! No wonder a brother said in one of the threads that he didnt like talking to you that he preferred other christians to you.

You believe that you know everything and that you are always right.

I have nothing to say because you are Mr. Know- all and Mr. Right.

So you are entitled to your opinion and continue satisfying your conscience.



@babyosis,

Rev King killed his followers,he was not following the examples of Christ and he has been tried most likely by Christians and convicted and NO Christians anywhere has made any excuses for him,he was condemned by all,a big difference between you and us.
The sorry excuse that perhaps his followers provoked him will sound as stupid as what you said.

Same of the same.

I wanted to go into the root but learnt that no matter what you are bing told, you will never believe despite the fact that my brother had explained to you. You claimed that Rev. King was not folowing the example of Christ, let me ask you, did jesus not kill? Has Rev. been hanged? Did you hear anything about him again?

Unless you want to feign ignorance that you have not been reading verses in the Holy Quran that go against extremism, terrorism, taking of one's soul. Did any muslim support the act?

You are entitled to your opinion. You quickly respond when it comes to Islamic issues but nowhere to be found in most of the threads meant for debate? What did you say to the questions on God of the OT and that of the NT? What did you say to the questions on the Name of Allah as being used by the Jews?

You are entitled to your opinion. Comtinr writing whatever you feel like and think that muslims will answer you. To be honest with you, as far as this Nairaland is concerned, Christians have not demonstrated tolerance more than Muslims.

Let me stop here, I prefer the likes of other christians when it comes to debate and not someone that do jump up and down, run from threads when it hots up.

@stimulus


Tell me that "Allah" is Hebrew, then you would have made a point in your linguistic misconceptions.

Exodus 6:3 - "And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them."

I asked you some questions above. I am still asking you, did Jesus use the word 'Jehovah' during his time?

Can you show me anywhere in the NT where the word 'Yahweh' is used?

Jesus in the NT referred to GOD Almighty as "Elaw," which is the Aramaic word for The GOD, which is a sister word of the Arabic "Allah":

1-  Mark 10:18 "Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good—except God (Elaw) alone.

2-  Matthew 4:10 Jesus said to him, "Away from me, Satan! For it is written: 'Worship the Lord your God (Elaw), and serve him only.' "

And so on,

Not only that, but the NT even records Jesus saying "Eloi Eloi lama sabachtani," which translates as "My GOD my GOD why have you forsaken me?"  Eloi is derived from Elaw and Allah.

"Yahweh" in Hebrew means "The LORD" or the "The GOD".  It is not a name.  Let us look at the following quotations from Christian and Jewish resources:

"Judaism teaches that while God's name exists in written form, it is too holy to be pronounced.  The result has been that, over the last 2000 years, the correct pronunciation has been lost."   (Mankind's Search for GOD, p. 225).

Here we clearly see that the pronunciation for the original name for GOD Almighty had been lost, and the Jews have no idea what the exact pronunciation is from their Holy Scriptures and resources.

"About 3,500 years ago, God spoke to Moses, saying: 'Thus shall you speak to the Israelites: The LORD [Hebrew: YHWH], the God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you: This shall be My name forever, this My appellation for all eternity.'   (Exodus 3:15; Psalm 135:13)"  (Mankind's Search for GOD, p.225).

", the four Hebrew consonants YHWH (Yahweh) that in their Latinized form have come to be known over the centuries in English as JEHOVAH."   (Mankind's Search for GOD, p.225).

So the word "YHWH" or "Yahweh" or "Jehovah" is not the ORIGINAL name, but the appellation (title) for the Almighty GOD.  This is perfectly fine, because Jews, Christians and Muslims call on to GOD Almighty as "The LORD" or "The GOD", which means "Yahweh" or "Jehovah" in Hebrew and "Al-Rab" in Arabic.  "Al-Rab" in Arabic and "Yahweh" in Hebrew and the other translations in all other languages are indeed GOD Almighty's title.   But they are NOT His original Name!

Let us look at what Exodus 3:15 and Psalm 135:13 from the NIV Bible say:  "God also said to Moses, "Say to the Israelites, `The LORD [Notice that they didn't write Jehovah.  "The LORD" in only a title], the God of your fathers--the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob--has sent me to you.' This is my name forever, the name by which I am to be remembered from generation to generation.  (From the NIV Bible, Exodus 3:15)"

"Your name, O LORD, endures forever, your renown, O LORD, through all generations.  (From the NIV Bible, Psalm 135:13)"

So as we clearly see from the above Verses from the NIV Bible, the original name for GOD Almighty is not "Yahweh".  The title "The LORD" is only a title and a nick name (if you will) that we give to GOD Almighty.  But "Yahweh" is definitely NOT THE ORIGINAL NAME for GOD Almighty.

"Allah" on the other hand is a name.  It is the name of GOD Almighty.

Beside the crystal clear proofs above about Yahweh or Jehovah being just a title or "appellation" (Exodus 3:15) for GOD Almighty, I would like to raise this simple question, and simple common sense test:

How can any title that begins with "the" be a name?

If I call you "the man", as it is a common slang for a person to be called that here in the US, would that really make your name "the man"?  

In Hebrew, Yahweh not only means "The LORD" or the "The GOD", but it also means "The Eternal" (according to the New Dictionary of the Bible).  That's all perfect with me.

The Eternal, Yahweh or Jehovah, means "Al-Samad" in Arabic.  Allah Almighty called Himself "Al-Samad" in the Noble Quran (Noble Verse 112:2).  I am willing to address Allah Almighty from now on by the "Al-Samad" title (Yahweh in Hebrew) and not by "Allah Almighty" (His Holy Name) if that's going to make Christians understand Islam and embrace it!

How difficult is it to comprehend that a title beginning with "the" can never be a name!  Let alone being an original name!  

"Yahweh" in Exodus 3:15 was only a title and not a name, and it means "The LORD", "The GOD" and the "The Eternal" (according to the New Dictionary of the Bible).

Now, let's assume for a second that "Yahweh" is a name, which is really ridiculous since its English translation starts with "the".   This still doesn't prove that GOD Almighty's original name is Yahweh!  Exodus 3:15 that Christians are so big on using was revealed to Prophet Moses peace be upon him.   How many years are there between Adam and Moses peace be upon them? Probably thousands!  If not even millions!

So according to the Christians' logic, GOD Almighty was Nameless from the time of Adam until the time of Moses where He, the Almighty, supposedly had finally found Himself and His identity.  Correct?  Wrong!  That's all a bunch of nonsense!

GOD Almighty's original Holy Name is clearly "Allah" or "Elaw"!   Like I said above, when Jesus peace be upon him was put on the cross, he cried to GOD Almighty and said "Eloi", which is derived from "Elaw" or "Allah".  He didn't say "Yahwahoi"!

The newest edition by the International Bible Society starts out "fi al-Bid'i khalaqa ALLAH al-samawati wal-ardha." The normal word for God, moreover, is "Allah," in the Christian dialects of Arabic as well as in the Jewish dialects,

To further prove my point, let us look at Genesis 2:4:

"This is the account of the heavens and the earth when they were created.  When the LORD God made the earth and the heavens-  (From the NIV Bible, Genesis 2:4)"

So as you can clearly see, "Yahweh" is clearly a title that means "The LORD" and not a Name for GOD Almighty.

The closest Hebrew word to the Arabic Allaah (alif-lam-lam-ha) would be the Hebrew Allah (alef-lamed-lamed-heh), which is used by Hebrew speaking Muslims, and has been used by Arabic Jews.  That is the closest possible Hebrew word to the Arabic Allah. It is the exact same word, and it has been part of Hebrew for at least 15 centuries (though I do concede it was almost certainly adopted from Arabic).

Several points to learn:

1. "elahh" is the way the word "hhla" (spelled from right to left as it is Aramaic) is pronounced.

2. The words "Elahh", "hhla (read from right to left)" and "Allah" all have the "h" letter and pronunciation in them.

3- "Allah" in Arabic is pronounced as "Al-lawh" or "Al-lah" depending on the sentence that it is used in.  In Arabic, the sound of the word "Allah" could be thicker (Allawh) or thinner (Allah) depending on the sentence.

4- The Aramaic word "hhla (read from right to left)", which is transliterated as "elahh" which means "GOD" is pronounced as "El-aw" as show above.

5- The Aramaic word "hla (read from right to left)", which is transliterated as "elah" which means "oak" is pronounced as "Ay-law" also as shown above.

6- "Allah" in Arabic is pronounced as "Al-lawh" or "Al-lah" depending on the sentence that it is used in.  In Arabic, the sound of the word "Allah" could be thicker (Allawh) or thinner (Allah) depending on the sentence.

7- The Hebew word "Elohim" is the plural of "Elowah", which is derived from the Aramaic word "Alaha", or "Elahh"; the same as the Arabic word "Allah" or "Allawh" in pronunciation.  

If we pronounce the words "Allah" in Arabic and "Elahh (pronounced as 'El-aw')" in Aramaic, then we would hear almost the same exact word

In the case of the Aramaic word "El-law (hhla)" above, if you pronouce the word, then you will notice a slight pronunciation of the letter "h".  The pronunciation of the word "El-law" is pronounced heavily as "El-law" or "El-la", but it is also pronounced slightly as "El-lah" or "El-lawh" or "Al-lah" or "Allah".  Arabic as I said inserts the letter "h" at the end of the words that end with the "a" pronunciation, thus making "Osama" be "Osamah", "Maria" be "Mariah", "Alla" be "Allah", etc,

"El-law" or "El-lawh" in Aramaic means "GOD", while "Eloi" in Aramaic means "My GOD" as Jesus used the word "Eloi" when he was put on the cross and said "My GOD My GOD why have you forsaken me? (Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachtani?), (Mark 15:34)"

In Arabic, "GOD" means "Allah", and "My GOD" means "Ilahi" or "Elahi" which is derived from the word "Allah".

In Iran, the word "Allah" is pronounced as "Allawh".  In the Arabic alphabets, which is used in the Iranian (Persian) language, there is no writing for the pronunciation of the letter "l" as "law".  The addition of punctuation to the letter "l", can make it be written in the Arabic alphabets as "la" or "laa" or "li" or "lee" or "lo" or "loo", but never "law".  "law" in Arabic is written as "la".  In Arabic as I mentioned above, "Allah" can be pronounced also as "Allawh".  However, in Iran, it is almost always pronounced as "Allawh".

By the way, the two "l"s in "Allah" are written in Arabic as one "l".  In Arabic, if the letter is pronounced twice after each others such as the "m" in "Muhammad", then it is written only once, and a special punctuation called "al-shaddah" is applied on the top of the letter to indicate that it is a double pronunciation.  So the point is, the Arabic "Allah" is written with one "l" and not two "l"s.  Perhaps the old Aramaic thousands of years ago was like that too, and maybe that's why "Allah" is written with one "l" in Aramaic.

The point is that the slang of "el-aw" in Aramaic and the slang of "Allawh" in Arabic sound the same, thus making the name of GOD Almighty in both Arabic and Aramaic be "Allah".

I conclude thus:

Holy Qur'aan 17:110

SAY: "CALL UPON ALLAH,
OR CALL UPON RAHMAN
BY WHATEVER NAME YE CALL UPON HIM (it is well):
FOR TO HIM BELONG THE MOST BEAUTIFUL NAMES

Are you ok sir?

Yep - He is the Prophet, the divine Priest, the Redeemer, the Saviour, the Mighty God, and the Son of God, besides a few others.


Brother, your post amaze him. How could you be equating God with ordinary person? Jesus was the Mighty God that transformed himself and took the shape of man while Moses never did this



Quote from: babs787 on Today at 10:21:47 AM
#John 6:14 - 'Then those men, when they had seen the miracle that Jesus did, said, This is of a truth that prophet that should come into the world.'

John 7:40 - 'Many of the people therefore, when they heard this saying, said, Of a truth this is the Prophet.'#


The verses actually are referring to the Prophet long expected according to Deuteronomy 18. Proof - exactly as stated in those verses.

Again, the above verses do not refer to Deut. 18 v 18. Was Jesus th only prophet that was prophesised?

In the New Testament times, we find that the jews were still expecting the fulfilment of the prophesy of ONE LIKE MOSES", refer John 1 v 19 - 25. When Jesus claimed to be the Messiah of the Jews, the Jews began to enquire as to where was Elias? The Jews had a parallel prophecy that before the coming of the Messiah, Elias must come first. Jesus confirms thsi Jewish belief:

Mathew 17 v 11-13: ,,, Elias truly shall first come and restore all things. But I say unto you, that Elias is come already and they knew him not,,,then the disciples understoood that he spake unto them of John the baptist.

So the above verses do not state that that it has any relationship to that of the book of Deut 18 v 18.




The fact that Moses proclaimed Him as 'Prophet' should not mean that the other roles be negated. I wonder why the Qur'an recognizes that Jesus is the Messiah (Christ) even though Moses did not call Him the Messiah. So, how did Muhammad get the idea that Jesus must be the Messiah, and then again Muslims have no idea what that appellation 'CHRIST' means.

Muslim do understand but maybe you are the one that do not understand
"Messiah" is just a title given to Jesus and no special attribute given to it. Non-Living things were also given that name.

The word 'christ' is derived from the Hebrew word 'messiah", Arabic 'Masih". Root word masaha, meaning 'to rub', to massage', to anoint. Priests were anointed when being consecrated to their offices. But in its translation, Grecian form 'christ', it seems unique. befitting jesus only.

Messiah in Hebrew means anointed. The Greek word for anointed is 'christos'. Just remove the 'os' from christos and you are left with christ!. Now change the little 'c' to a capital C and you will have created a unique name!

Christos means Anointed and anointed means Appointed in its religious connotation. Non Living things were also anointed.


FROM AMONG THEIR BRETHREN

Moses and his people, the jews are here addressed as a racial entity and as such their 'brethren' undoubtedly be the Arabs. The holy bible speaks of Abraham as the 'friend of God'. Abraham had two wives - Sarah and Hagar. Hagar bore Abraham a son - His first born - ;; And Abram called his son's name which Hagar bare, Ishmael (Gen 16 v 15). And Abraham took Ishmael his son,,, (Gen 17 v 23) . And Ishmael his son was 13 years old, when he was circumcised in the flesh of his foreskin (Gen 17 v 25). Up to the age of 13 Ishmael was the only son and seed of Abraham, when the covenant was ratified between God and Abraham. God grants Abraham another son through Sarah named Isaac, who was very much the junior to his brother.

If Ishmael ad Isaac are the sons of the same father Abraham, then tye are brothers. And so the children of the one are the Brethren of the children of the other.

The children of Isaac are the jews and the children of Ishmael are the Arabs - so they are brethren to one another. The bible affirms .

and he (Ishmael) shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren (gen 16 v 12)

,, and he Ishmael died in the presence of all his brethren (gen 25 v 18)

The children of Isaac are the brethren of the Ishmaelites. In like manner Muhammed is from among the brethren of the Israelites because he was a descendant of Ishmael the so of Abraham

This is exactly as the prophecy has it - 'from among their brethren' (deut 18 v 18). There the prophecy distinctly mentions that the coming prophet who would be like Moses must arise NOT from the 'children of Israel' or from 'among themselves' BUT from 'among their brethren'

From here, I will move to 'words in his mouth'

@backslider

This is simple comprehension

Lets study the verses together.

2 Samuel 10:18

18And the Syrians fled before Israel; and David slew the men of seven hundred chariots of the Syrians, and forty thousand horsemen, and smote Shobach the captain of their host, who died there


The above verse says, 'david slew the men of seventy hundred chariots of the syrians'

The meaning of the above is that David slew 700 chariot men of the Syrians.

Now to the other verse


1 Chronicles 19:18
18But the Syrians fled before Israel; and David slew of the Syrians seven thousand men which fought in chariots, and forty thousand footmen, and killed Shophach the captain of the host.

The above verse says, "david slew of the syrians, 7000 men which fought in chariots.

The above means that david slew 7000 chariot men of the syrians. The above is a contradiction unless you dont understand the verses. The arrangement of the verses made you think that there are no contradicion but really, the two verses are talking on the slewing of chariot men by david. One saying 700 and another 7000 of the same chariot men



I want to now see that in samuel account says there were 700 chariots but did not give the exact figure of MEN.

What sort of interpretation are you giving the verse? Can c chariot move itself? Dont you know that if they say 5 chariots of men, it means 5 men. Likewise here that says 700 chariots , meaning 700 men of chariots of syrians. Read the phrase here, "David slew the men of seven hundred chariots of the Syrians"



The Chronicles gives the exact number of MEN as 7000 and Does Not say The Exact Number Of Chariots.


Here also, 7000 men is the same as 7000 chariots men. Read too, "David slew of the Syrians seven thousand men which fought in chariots"

So it doesnt matter whether a particular number is being mentioned for men as long chariots is being mentioned. If a verse says 700 chariot mens, it means that there are 700 men and if a verse says 700 men that fought in chariots, it means same thing.

Understood?. There are contradiction brother

@mimi4eva

Based on your post, Jesus can never be like Moses because he was God while Moses was not.

I wonder what you people think when you keep saying that God took human form and came to die for the sin of man

God the creator, coming to die for the sin committed by his creation!!!

To the issue of 3rd day, did he really rise on the third day?

We will shed more light on that when we get to the only sign he told the jews which is "the sign of Jonah"  and from there, we will know if he was really killed, crucified and rose the third day.

Peace



@stimulus

It seems you are tired of sitting down and looking and decided to contribute .

Thanks for the contribution anyway.


#While it is true that Jesus is greater than a prophet,#

What is he is he is more than a prophet?



#the Bible affirms that He is the Prophet prophesied in Deuteronomy 18:15 & 18. The folowing bear this out#:

Brother, you are still claiming that the prophesy rested on him despite my explanation on the similarities and differences among them.



#John 6:14 - 'Then those men, when they had seen the miracle that Jesus did, said, This is of a truth that prophet that should come into the world.'

John 7:40 - 'Many of the people therefore, when they heard this saying, said, Of a truth this is the Prophet.'#

Are the above verses referring to Deuteronomy 18 v 18? What is the proof?



#What we should understand in the prophecy of Deut. 18 is that the Jesus was not limited as merely a Prophet - He was truly that, and much more.#


Brother, based on your statement above, it can be seen that the prophesy was not for Jesus because you claimed that Jesus was more than a prophet while Moses was not more than a prophet.

Dont worry, we will get to the root of the prophesy when we get to the phrase "from among your brethren", "I will put my words in his mouth" etc.

Stay glued

@babyosis

Thanks for the post. Honestly, you christians will always expose your weakness for people to come in.

Now I saw you quoted Corinthians that was written by Paul. Most Christians carry the bible about but do not know what is really inside the bible except what they are being told in Sunday Schools and on Sundays.

I have a question for based on the Corinthians you quoted for me. Here are my questions:

1. Can we say that the First letter written to the Corinthians is really the First letter to them? Yes/No


2. Then, what happened to Paul's first letter to the Corinthians?


Thank you

I am even laughing here based on the posts everyone pasted. In order not tyo waste time, I will reply each and every one's post one after the other.


@backslider, batu, davidylan, stimulus

I have few questions for you

1. What language is the arabic bible written?

2. What language did Jesus speak?

3. Which word did Jesus used to represent God in his language?

4. Dis Jesus ever hear the word 'God' during his time?

5. What is really God's name?

6. Which is closer to Jesus' language, Allah or God?

Maybe if you dont know, early Jews in Palestines had the word :"In the Name of Allah, ," written at the top of their shops.




ok

@mukina

Abeg leave them jare. Thye know that we gunners are the best

Where is this Man United guy. U still dey talk where we dey after having received beating this season.

GUNNERS FOR LIFE

I dont know why you people make reference to past issues. We are talking of this season and you are telling us stories.

Who is saying mADRID is the greatest. Hope you have not forgotten the beating gunners gave you last season.

Where is United too, The beating is still fresh, both home and away.

Liverpool, sorry. We have always been beating you and we will repeat history this weekend.

As for you chel-lagoon or chel-ocean or brandy or whisky, your abramowitch saved you at your home, but you must come chop am for Emirates.

Long live gunners

GUNNERS FOR LIFE

I dont know why you people make reference to past issues. We are talking of this season and you are telling us stories.

Who is saying is the greatest. Hope you have not forgotten the beating gunners gave you last season.

Where is United too, The beating is still fresh, both home and away.

Liverpool, sorry. We have always been beating you and we will repeat history this weekend.

As for you chel-lagoon or chel-ocean or brandy or whisky, your abramowitch saved you at your home, but you must come chop am for Emirates.

Long live gunners

GUNNERS FOR LIFE

Arsenal is not his type. He has no liver to do that.

:d :d :d

You need to ask the members

Did you read the topic and the post at all?

Your argument holds no water

@loyinka

Dont worry, na you get your mouth this season


@razor

Keep your mouth shut.

Hmm very interesting

I have some questions for you afterall you asked me questions in other threads, so its my time now to ask you questions

Are you ready for my questions?

@razor

wetin dey do you sef?

You think the woman can when she cant even buy share at Nasarawa united or Orlando Pirates.

Abeg my people, told Razor, she no sabi. Emirates wey big names are begging wenger to allow them join him and play.

You think say e easy to play the best of football.

I tire for am. I dont know where the horse dey. Maybe Abramo-witch dey for the horse.


I wonder how people like telling stories when we are talking about the current issue.

Forget whether you have carried it 2000 times but lets talk about now.

Chelsea ko, brandy ni

@4play

No problem. I agree that nothing for gunners this season but never season will be bountiful harvest. I only pity those leaving now by the time we start reaping the fruit of our labour next season.

Besides those leaving are not really arsenal fans, they are called mo gbo mo branch. that is those that never associate themselves with any team but go with any winning team.

We gunner fans know ourselves and we will always be.

Even the premiership leader cannot stand us. We beat them both at home and away.

Liverpool sef chop am.

Chelsea nearly chop am but will chop whether they like it or not at emirate and Van pire would have been back.

So let them leave, we know ourselves

@Razor

I am around now and I dey kampe like Obasanjo.

Thumps up for gunners

@kaydee

Wetin dey do you now? Take your time o

@tng

Thanks for the post

Told them

Who is saying cole is a good. Wenger has sense more than that yeye moringho. Wenger collected better Gallas and even collected money along with it. Very clever man, a great economist

Nice post.