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paxonel:
No!
I just uploaded a screen shot of a dictionary definition of atheism, I didn't define it that way. For that definition to come out that way in an English dictionary that means there was a consensus.

God you people are hopeless.

Obviously you didn't even read your own screenshot. In the picture it said DISBELIEF. How is disbelief a belief?

paxonel:
[s] so, the sane word you are talking about did not see English dictionary? [/s]

Satirical irrelevant bullshït.

paxonel:
before I come to this, I want to ask you a simple question. How do you define religion?

How about you post another screenshot from your consensus dictionary. Then we can roll with that. Smh.

Riduane:
Oh yeah, we talking about the wisest now? I suppose believing something came out of nothing is the wisest thing right? Smh.

Should have known. Lol

You're one of those theistic straw-grabbers incapable of doing their own research about a topic but peddle other people's thoughts instead.

When has Atheism had to do with "something come from nothing?"

So will you educate yourself and stop sounding like a fanatic, irrational brainwashed theist who obviously has no idea what he's on about?

Listen to something else other than your scammer pastor and you might just find out that Atheism has NOTHING to do with astronomy.

Riduane:
Atheism should be the dumbest philosophical position in this century. What are they to celebrate.

Sure. Because believing books where slavery, talking snakes and talking donkeys is considered normal is the "wisest philosophical decision."

Thumbs up.

paxonel:
Here are the difference!

A child is a person while atheism is a belief or doctrine as it applies to religion and it is not in anyway different from religion.

Fortunately for people who can use their head, assigning YOUR own meaning to words doesn't make those words automatically become what you want them to mean.

Saying atheism is a belief or doctrine does not truly mean that atheism is belief or doctrine. It only means that YOU FOOLISHLY love to define it so. Despite efforts of the sane world to save you from drowning in your own folly.

Atheism is a lack of belief in all gods including yours. Need I say that again? A LACK.

A-theism: NO belief in a God. None. Nada. ZERO. Zilp. Zilch.

It's no more a belief than "Not swimming" is a hobby.
Or "off" is a TV channel.

I understand how difficult that may seem for you. Logic can be difficult. Especially for god apologists. I suggest you read it like 4-5 times. Take all the time you need.

virginboy1:
People like you liberated me from the shackles of RELIGION OCBD.

Johnnydon2 and CAPSLOCKED kudos.

Kudos

We probably did. But it was still ultimately down to you.

Give yourself the credit for the amazing achievement. It was YOU. A lot of people read the same things but couldn't free themselves.

So appreciate us, but most importantly, appreciate yourself. And keep questioning everything.

MiddleDimension:
they thinks evolution says apes mutated to humans. they won't try to get evolution properly, they will just come up, misunderstand evolution and then try to argue their wrong understanding of it.

chimps, gorillas, orangutans, and bonobos did not give birth to humans, you people should get this straight. evolution does not say so! what it says is....when you trace the ancestors of these apes backward (and the human being is an ape, he is the fifth ape), you will meet at a comon ancestor at different point on the branches of the family tree with us meeting the chimps first, and then the others as we move backward on the family tree. and no, evolution does not say man is the ultimate, we just got to this point and then broke free of force of natural selection.

these people should first understand a thing before they try to argue against it. failure to do this makes whatever arguement they bring up a failed one already

my advice to you...let those people be. if the theory of relativity was against their god, be sure that they would be against it too despite the evidence for it.

I agree with most of what you have said. The confirmation bias and intellectual dishonesty in most theists is second to none.

I am just shocked there are actual atheists who are supposedly rational debaters who believe evolution is false due to reasons best known to them.

As the popular quote goes: "You cannot believe or disbelieve evolution. You either understand it or you don't."

RealMrNigerD:
Just like I thought. Always the same with you evolutionists, can't subscribe your weak arguments for evolution to scrutiny. Just a childish rigmarole you're always on. Now I should forget etymological meanings of words and pick up a twisted scientific narrative written to support a flawed theory by wrongly interchanging words. Tell me how you can believe something to be scientificically proven which still divides the scientific community, something simply accepted by choice, rather than scientific methods of validation. You still can't see that mutation of complex multicellular into completely different organisms cannot be supported by adaptation(falsely called evolution) which occured in unicellular bacteria. If you're not going to explain how any of those in your list can really support the mutation of one species into a completely different species, how apes still all around us, living primitive barbaric lives, somehow mutated into intelligent humans shaping the universe with science and technology, then don't mention me. Inexcusable silliness in an era of enlightenment. I'm ready to rip apart your arguments like I usually do to all evolutionists when you're man enough to present your defense. Until then, don't bother mentioning me again, I won't respond.

Whatever helps you sleep at night. A Nobel prize awaits anyone who can debunk the evolution theory. So I wonder what you're waiting for. But yeah, again whatever floats your boat.

blueAgent:
All na Scam.

Sure. Peer reviewed evidence would sound like scam to a creationist. Facts aren't exactly your thing.

[quote author=Macsjebs post=87708154][/quote]How do you conclude that there are no exaggerations, errors or modifications during the translation of the Bible from Aramaic to others?

By the way, are you insinuating that the Old/New testament was written in Aramaic?

blueAgent:
Where and how has it been proven?

Google search : "Peer reviewed evidence for evolution."

Macsjebs:
You perhaps didnt get the message in my post Boss

Is that so? Kindly explain what you mean when you say the Bible has no errors then.

CAPSLOCKED:
ALL THOSE WHO HAVE READ THE BIBLE ARE NOW ATHEISTS.

well I would say yes and no lol

wirinet:
Humans are classified as apes along with other primates.



The inability to breed is the main criteria is determining deferent species.



Can't you see that your sentence up there is an oxymoron. How can you say everything with DNA has a common ancestor, but we cannot have a common ancestor with apes? Does that make sense to you?



As I said earlier, the link is the personal views of one quora contributor, it has no value in the scientific community.

Thank you very much for that rebuttal. Sometimes I feel like I'm losing IQ points when I'm trying to educate these people.

Macsjebs:
As in, guys let's reason this together

How is it possible that the Bible was translated from Aramiac and like that to several languages before English without human modifications, errors and exaggerations.

How is it possible that it's a complete book and all parts were gotten and translated in a time when it was almost impossible traveling to several parts of the earth or say no known means or tech to preserve it in its original form like we have the internet today

if you think that the Bible contains no errors then I can safely assume that you haven't actually read the book.

RealMrNigerD:
Bro. I don't know what better English word you could give to a microbes ability to adapt itself and become resistant to a chemical than adapting to that chemical environment and that on a micro-level. This is still an adaptation apart from on the macro-level. If you don't know what adaptation means, check the dictionary. And you know what, don't try to let yourself off the hook. Explain how any of your listed subjects is evidence for evolution. And try not to slip up while at it. Any response other than an explanation and it'll be obvious you know you can't.


Merriam-Webster
1adaptation

noun

ad·ap·ta·tion

\ˌa-ˌdap-ˈtā-shən, -dəp-\

  

: something that is adapted ; especially : a movie, book, play, etc., that is changed so that it can be presented in another form

: a change in a plant or animal thatmakes it better able to live in a particular place or situation

: the process of changing to fit somepurpose or situation : the process of adapting

Please get an actual scientific textbook and look up the difference between adaptation and evolution.

I don't have much to celebrate. Than to just be thankful that I was able to rise above all the indoctrination and brainwashing and to come to the valid conclusion, that religion is a lie after 20 solid years.


I want to specially celebrate the people who have fought for the freedom of people like me. Because a few years ago, when world politics was massively controlled by religion and theologians, I would have been dead/burnt at stake or at the very least, rejected from society simply for having this sort of skeptic mindset.

I own my freedom of speech to those great people who fought for the normalisation of secularism. I very much understand that there a lot of religious people who would want us to return back to the age where doubt is criminalized.

And I have made it my point of duty to fight for the rights of fellow atheists, both now and in the future, for their right to freedom of speech and to go about their normal lives regardless of their belief or lack of it.


To the commiseration of atheists who have lost their lives, in the hands of religious people, both completely and partially, I personally dedicate this day.

Niggsrdumb:
Sir this is a genuine question, since you believe evolution is true, is it also true that blacks are the dumbest of all homosapiens? .

Kindly point to me in the evolution theory where it said blacks are the dumbest of homosapiens. If you cannot. Then your question is irrelevant and borne from your own unfortunate misconceptions about yourself and other black people.

Niggsrdumb:
Yes I know race is a construct , but we do have differences like skull shape, brain size , resistance to diary products and all that good stuff. .

Even among a particular race/community. There are countless variations in the phenotypic properties of organisms. Variations are mainly why natural selection is possible. So,
differences in those qualities you mentioned actually can be explained by their evolutionary advantages.

Niggsrdumb:
My question is are blacks in the lower end of the homosapien spectrum , meaning are we closer to those ape like ancestors? Especially when evolution confirms everyone is African.

Humans didn't evolve from "apes. All humans ARE apes. We -alongside- the rest of apes(chimps, gorrillas etc) evolved from a common ancestor. This is where a lot of people get it wrong.

RealMrNigerD:
Microbial drug resistance? smh. Adaptation, your 'proof' of evolution still takes place today, it, now use it.

Congratulations. You just proved you know NOTHING about the topic of discussion.

Anyone who thinks microbial drug resistance is adaptation does not even deserve my time.

Pick up a book other than the BuyBull and maybe you would sound a little less ignorant. I suggest reading a science book for dummies.

AdmiralDru:
1. What you also think is not the truth and you're exhibiting traits of gullible Christians who hold on to their beliefs no matter what's put in front of them. This is how Christians argue.

You come across as a really stupid and ignorant atheist but I'm going to reply your comment like you're not stupid because of people who will read this thread now and in the distant future.

Your level of ignorance is a threat to society and I must not let it slide. No one deserve to be this stupid.

AdmiralDru:
2. Theory of evolution is not well tested or proven. Just like the big bang theory, scientists would tell you, " it's the most accepted theory for now til something better comes up".

Below are some of the evidences of evolution:

1. Molecular biology(DNA/RNA sequencing).

2. Comparative anatomy

3. Embryology

4. Fossil records

5. Biogeography

6. Microbial drug resistance

These are 6 (SIX!!) thoroughly tested and accepted evidences for evolution. For you to classify something that has this amount of evidence as false says more about YOU and YOUR STUPIDITY than anything else.

You have made it pretty evident that you have no business discussing scientific subjects. As you're obviously too dumb and intellectually lazy and painfully unable to verify the authenticity of your claims before you make them.

AdmiralDru:
The evolution theory is only propagated so atheist and co can have something to masturbate on when confronted by Christians cause you guys would look stupid if you had no answer to the origin of creation.

When did it become a must for atheists to have something to say about the origin of creation? Are atheists, biologists or astronomers or archaeologists?

My god! I feel like I am schooling a 4 year old.

Even a 4-year old has more IQ points than you lmao.

AdmiralDru:
3. That you think evolution happened doesn't make you smarter than the average theist. You never conducted any research and you know everything on evolution by reading a book just the same way Christians read their Bible.

Well if you weren't actually stupid and proudly ignorant, you would notice that my moniker is bacteriologist. I am a microbiologist by profession and I have observed firsthand, in the laboratory, the very basic processes of evolution.

One of the result is microbial drug resistance.
Natural selection which is one of the basic concepts of evolution is why certain microorganisms that are susceptinle to a drug, will over time, become unaffected by that particular drug.

It might also interest you to know that the current corona virus is most likely to be an evolved form of the common cold virus as they have been classified under the same family.

I am actually shocked that someone who is supposedly intelligent enough to dump religion is dumb enough to argue in the most ignorant and reprehensible manner. Very similar to the average theist.

A quick Google Search on the evidences of evolution would have saved me this mess. And saved you from coming across as a seriously stupid individual.

I insist that skepticism does not imply actual intelligence.

AdmiralDru:
Bro, I'm an Atheist and I don't think evolution ever happened. The big bang theory is also BS and it takes more faith to think you know something that happened millions of years ago than believing in the Abrahamic religions.

Thankfully for the rest of the world, what you "think" is not the truth. Nor does it affect it.

Evolution is a well tested and proven theory, a fact.

If you think it takes faith to accept evolution then you're dumber than the average theist out there. Atheism does not make one wiser or dumber. So there's that.

OChimex:
So why hasn't any other monkey or primate turn to human again?

And why hasn't we seen monkey or apes producing things or making similar inventions since they are brothers to humans?

Why hasn't any other thing evolved since the theory of evolution?

If humans were created from sand why is there still sand?

That's how stupid you sound.

AntiChristian:
Freedom you call it right, so who has to determine the limit of that freedom? How free can a lady dress in public? Can your mum or sis in your freedom mentality expose their nipples in the Bus? No! Why the limit.

My mom or sis would never do that. Because they're way more intelligent than yours would ever be. You may think they would because that's what yours would do if accorded the freedom. No wonder your fake book classified your mom and sister as stupid.

Female-folk in my circle recognise Islam for what it really is: A misogynistic death cult.

And that in itself is a W. It takes a really courageous, virtuous woman to abhor Islam for the absurdity that it is.

AntiChristian:
Atheist don't care! Cos they are crazy!

Yes...says one Who believed Mohammed flew to the moon and split it into half. Lmao batshit crazy idiot.

AntiChristian:
It does matter! Charity begins at home. Criticise your mum and sisters. Let them be free and expose their labia to the world!

A typical atheist has a brain temperature of 0 degree C. Frozen brain!

My mom and sister dress how they would. And they are wise enough to cover their private parts. Yours, on the other hand, are obviously dumb. So you think all of the other women are going to act as stupidly as they would.

Your problem not mine.

AntiChristian:
Who is more stupid that an atheist calling for freedom of other ladies yet his mum and sisters do not share out of that same freedom mentality!
You need to fix yourself in line with your female folks first.

No one in my family dresses a certain way because a middle aged book says so. We all dress how we please. And that may sound really strange to your slow reasoning. But a lot of people- including women- actually have freedom.

People like you would love to take away all that freedom and reduce women to your property. But people like me would never let that happen.

And also, asusual, I would thank you, for continuing to show to readers of this thread now and in future why Islam is a barbaric, dangerous religion that was created by men who hate women for men who hate women.

SMH

Erickax:
stop decieving ursef, u knw dat jesus exist

Yes. I know that he exists. But only inside your brainwashed skull.

A month ago, weren't Muslims saying Coronavirus was a punishment for Chinese from Allah for "persecuting" Muslims.

Now the chicken has come home to roost.

Haha religious idiots eating their words. You love to see it. Very insensitive brain dead people.

AntiChristian:
What's the atheist way of life for women? And you haven't answered my questions.

Atheists have no "way of life." Only one thing is certain. Genuine love and freedom.

Atheists don't care what others put on so far it is THEIR CHOICE to do so. That is FREEDOM.

It's not freedom when you flog women in public for not dressing as you like. It's not love when you kill them for not wearing what pleases you or your book.

It is BIGOTRY and wholesale PERVERSION.

AntiChristian:
Did your mum dress this way to marry your dad?

How does this matter to the topic of discussion? What's your IQ? Room temperature IQ?

My mom also did prefer manual blender to automated electric ones. Does that mean cooking with electric blenders are wrong?

The older generation preferring something does not make it WRONG or RIGHT.
It would need logical discussion to now determine if the actions in time of old were indeed justified before classifying it as right or wrong.

I would expect you to know this. But a typical Muslim has a room temperature IQ. Less than 30.

AntiChristian:
Is that the way your mum brought you up to always see her nudity?

God. You're füčking stupid. If allowing women to dress the way they please comes across to you as nudity. Then maybe the problem is with YOU and not them. Fix yourself and stop acting like an animal.

Perverted Islamic bigot.

Rennie303:
When you say that you need Christians to perform miracles.. are we God?
We can only pray to God and he answers us with performance of miracles.. If He doesn't answer immediately.. we can't force Him because He is God.. He would do the right thing in His own time..

But...but ...but the Bible said if we ask anything in prayer he is able and just to do it for us.

But...but but the Bible said the prayer of the righteous availeth much. Does that mean that no righteous man has prayed? Lmao Christians and their circular reasoning. Smh

AntiChristian:
Our females can do this indoors with their husbands. Their body are not for every Tomiwa, Dike and Haruna to feed on!

Is this how your mum, grandma and greatgrand ma dress up?

What a generation that bore you!

Yes! What a bad generation! A generation where people where free to wear what they wanted!
Regardless of their gender.
Imagine how bad the generation was!

Now, the Islamic generation is the good one! Innit? Where women are flogged publicly for not dressing the way men want! Where wives can be beaten and treated as property of men.
What a good generation, the Islam generation.

Smh

CAPSLOCKED:
It hit front-page by mistake in 2016, and my full conversation took place. I found the family I've been looking for all my life, and the rest is history.

You probably meant "conversion."

It must have been one of a kind back then. Especially when it hit front page. A real masterpiece. I commend the OP. I'm sure it was a real eye opener for many.

AntiChristian:
Yeah, are your atheist sisters and other female folks any better?

They are waaaay better than the slaves in your barbaric, hellish religion that are of no good except to misogynists like you.

If you treat women like property, don't think everyone else does. My atheist sisters have all the freedom in the world. Compared to yours, who are actually subject to your perverted choices for them -because a perverted stone aged, women hating book called the Koran says so.

So suck it up. And stop comparing your wayward Islamic ideology to secular, liberal ones.

If there is a creator of this vast universe, isn't it diminishing to believe he couldn't do better than to communicate with us through old books filled with ancient ignorance?

The Bible and the Quran are both filled with different sorts of ridiculous superstitious nonsense.


The Bible features unicorns, talking donkeys and a snake that talked a woman into disobeying god. Off my head I can list 50 contradictions in the Bible alone.

The Qur'an also endorses a winged horse that flew to the moon, sperm coming from the ribs and an actual arithmetic error when dividing property among people in one of its verses.

Isn't it actually unbelievable how a so-called intelligent designer chose the most perverted, error-filled, irredemably ignorant books, as his own first line representation in the face of humans and still have such a huge fan base?

If a god exists, and is intelligent and loving. It is pretty obvious that the two major books do a poor job of representing him as such. An intelligent designer, if there is one, would do better while inspiring.

AntiChristian:
Yes it is. But it doesn't say women won't be much in Paradise.

Islam is a misogynistic religion. No amount of apologist twisting will change this fact.

Righteousness89:
My Brother Call me Gullible! Call me Mumu !

Good thing it no longer gets you upset. Because that is EXACTLY what you are. A religious idiot.

Righteousness89:
My Joy is that you have Heard the Gospel! You won't say u didn't hear..

Sure...so let me guess..if he didn't hear the gospel he had a pretty good chance of not being judged by god. But now that he hears it and it could make him be banished to hell. It gives you joy.

Typical Christian who bashes in the misfortune of others.

Righteousness89:
I Am not for any Form of Arguement!
I Tell the Gospel of JESUS Christ, The Gospel of Truth and I leave you to decide your Fate..

Arguements are not for idiots who cannot reason outside the religious bubble. It's nice you are beginning to understand the limitations of your intellect.

Righteousness89:
This Conversation will be Showed to you, when you Crossover..

Says one who has never crossed over.
How exactly do you know that? Because your pastor told you. Lmao brain dead.