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If people are wealthy. And we thank god for it.

It logically follows that if people are poor. We can blame god for it.

You are poor because you are not EARNING.

Nowhere in the world do people get rich by giving pastors money. That doctrine was created by people who want to take out of the little you have by selling you a false hope of getting rich if you enrich them FIRST.

If you can't get ahead with your finances, get a second job, invest in passive income or live well below your means.

Receive sense Nigerians.

Jesus tell us to love our enemies while he burns his in hell.

What a lovely god y'all serve.

Dantedasz:
Wtf??
Come jimiobanta, you mean there was no falling and thrashing? No loud cries as demons of atheism came forth screaming:~~JESUS IS LORD!!
INCREDIBLE!!!

Xavfra:
Thanks....
I appreciate....


It's not like I want Christianity out, but I just want the stupidity and the scamming nature of it.....

If our churches could become schools or industries, if people could contribute as much as they contribute for tithes and offerings to building schools and industries, life will be better.

That's basically communism. Which can be good. But it has it's own limitations and shortcomings especially when done extremely -like you've suggested.

Can we have this thread for religion section 2020 please

LordReed:
Yes I think more and more people are asking questions that religion cannot answer. Mostly because we have access to more information than any other time in human history and also because the world is now a sort of global village. That lack of exposure used to make us think our own small corner of the world was all there was and our experiences the most profound. That access has corrected some of our myopia.

I agree completely. I find the rate at which information spreads in this time and age is really making ignorance -which is essentially what religion thrives on- to die quickly. The future looks bright.

Eulalia:


The convict who accepts Christ will definitely make heaven because he came through the righteousness of Jesus ( which is the only thing God recognizes) and not his own good works or deeds which God says our righteousness is like a filthy rag. So your good works cannot qualify you for heaven but that which Christ has done on Calvary. You only need to accept Him to gain free access to heaven.

Read the book of acts chapter 10. Talks about a good man, Cornelius and how God had to send peter to preach Jesus to him as his good nature would not take him to heaven. So theres need to come through Jesus cos he alone was able to fulfill all of Gods' laws ( which no man, not even Muhammed) was able to fulfill and he did it once and for all.

That's just sad, isn't it. So we are going to have a so-called blissful place that's filled with different sorts of evil people like murderers, assasins, human traffickers, pedophiles etc who repented at the brink.

And in hell that is supposed to be a place of torment, we're going to have good people who, although, lacked belief in Jesus but nevertheless lived their lives in the best way possible and by good virtues without harming others.


The thugs that wrote the bible did a poor job on the idea of heaven. Here's a better satirical idea that further ridicules it.

Kobojunkie:
No you will not. The reason is simple. Jesus has rules that are for those trying to enter His Heaven, if you don't meet the requirements, you won't get in. It is His kingdom, hence His rules.
There are many ideas of heaven out there for you to pick and choose from. You just need to focus on the ones that allow what you are willing to offer.

Some of us choose to call his bluff. A heaven filled with racists, serial killers, pedophiles and armed robbers that repented at the last minute is not something I would particularly want to be part of.

Jesus can go f*** himself with his rules in heaven. The second part of your post does seem a bit like sarcasm.

LordReed:
You hit the nail bro. Imagine that the so called prince of peace is going to come and turn in his enemies into eternal fires, it boggles the mind that people cannot see the contradiction.

The power of indoctrination and brainwashing. But it's getting better. Do you think more people are asking questions about religion? I think people are getting less scared of religious scare tactics. And that's a really good thing. What are your thoughts?

LordReed:
This was my path to getting out of religion, realizing that once I didn't have to defend any of it, then it could not make sense to me. The need to defend it at all cost will allow them to twist their intellect to the task. No more gymnastics for me.

Interesting. I also did use to reiterate the apologist "GOD is GOD" phrase. I think the point at which the mental gymnastics become unbearable is where the individual throws in the towel and actually begins to think.

Why would a loving, most benevolent god permit the slavery of any people under any circumstances at all. God asks us to love our enemies and then goes ahead to torture his forever in an eternal oven.

Indoctrination makes theists harder to see this obvious truth. But we have to try anyway.

Righteousness89:

My Brother, Christianity is a Relationship .

Being a Christian is not just in Mouth or By Birth. It is a Relationship with JESUS CHRIST.

There is no being on Earth as Merciful as JESUS CHRIST. And Obtaining Salvation is Free of Charge.

Being a Killer, a rapist and all that is Evil and Wickedness but the Moment you Say, LORD JESUS , I Am Sorry, Forgive me! My Brother no matter what the World thinks of you, no matter what the World calls you, JESUS CHRIST forgives you instantly.. and if one is killed as you said, He opens His eyes in Heaven..
That's the Mercifulness of GOD ALMIGHTY.

That's falsehood, not mercy. It's a cult. Only cults place belief over morals.

Your religion sentences good people to hell because they lack mere belief. People with genuine intent to do good and actually did good all their lives.

Then it turns around and embraces cruel, evil, despicable, and hateful souls to heaven for having belief at the last minute.

This your religion isn't something I, or any other person with the least grasp of morality, would want to have a part of. It's a cult.

You're a cultist, please don't quote me ever again. I won't bother to reply you.

Righteousness89:
My Brother, Good virtues are good and Wonderful. Infact they can launch you into Favor and good things here on Earth. But if you Do not Believe and Accept JESUS CHRIST, you will Miss Heaven ! There is no Heaven!

So a supposedly convicted serial killer accepts and believes jesus on the death row on the morning of his death sentence and goes to heaven.

While someone who tried to live a decent life and was very kind and loving towards other people dies and goes to hell because they didn't believe in Jesus.

This is really your religion?

Dantedasz:
They are just sickening and disgusting they way they try to justify everything in their comic book.
This book supports slavery,murder,rape,misogyny and some many more crimes against humanity and you will see a human being turning logic upside down and trying to justify such rubbish?
People like this just make me feel sick!

The power of indoctrination and brainwashing. Somehow they know it is wrong but they find themselves defending it. According to what they have been thought, everything god does is right and good. Even if it involves killing babies in the most cruel manner imaginable.

That's how strong the chains of religious beliefs are on the brain and minds of many people.

Righteousness89:

Irrespective of Whatever you say you believe or you are,in terms of Belief or Religion and all that, if you Get JESUS CHRIST wrong, you Have missed it...

JESUS CHRIST is The Righteousness of GOD.

All Have sinned and Come short of the Glory of GOD. We all from Birth are Sinners. No one teaches a little child to give "Waka" ! It's inbuilt in us as humans.

Without the Shedding of Blood there will be on Remission or Forgiveness of Sin.

Someone had to pay the price for All Humanity..

GOD ALMIGHTY offered His only Begotten SON , JESUS CHRIST to pay the Price for all Humanity..

The Moment JESUS was Nailed and Hung on that Cross and Cried IT IS FINISHED! The price for All Humanity was Paid!

Salvation is Free! No Other Sacrifice or goat, cow, candle and all that is Needed..

All we need do is to Confess our Sins, Accept and Believe in JESUS CHRIST..

HE is The Only way to Heaven!

If I lived my life by good virtues but without a belief in Jesus, will I make heaven or not?

If verses like Exodus 21 were found in the Qur'an or any other religious book for that matter. Christians would talk down on it for as long as forever.

But look at how they dickride slavery, rape and misogyny and attempt to twist it as justifiable just because their bible supports it. Religion breeds evil.

KingsEst:
I will challenge any atheist who disbelieve in the jamboree (deliverance) to volunteer for a session. I m sure it will be very interesting

Smh

KingsEst:
It is obvious you have never experienced the power of God,so you will subscribe to the power of the mind and its decietfullness. The kingdom of God and its existence is demonstrated by power. A power you must see to believe.
The words of men are very cheap, but the word of God is everlasting.
Thus saith the word of God;
 For the kingdom of God is not in word, but in power. 1Cor 4:20

Before you use the bible in this argument or any other one for that matter. Tell me why I should take what the Bible says with a grain of salt.

Or are you one of those fallacious and dishonest "the Bible is true because the Bible says the Bible is true" Christians?

KingsEst:
The offspring of bacteria are finally speaking, the complexities of a bacteria and it's reproductive process points definitely at a thought process greater than your minute own

Technically you contain bacteria DNA too. So yeah you're related to bacteria.

If the complexity of something points to the fact that something greater created it.

Then what created god since god is supposedly and incredibly more complex than any other organism on Earth?

You know you wouldn't need to "deliver" atheists or go through any of this jamboree if you would simply provide evidence for your god, right?

hakeem4:
Funny thing is that God actually exists, But he exists only the mind of people who want him to be real

I would disagree with that. Believing something is real or "wanting it" to be real doesn't make it real. It just means one is convinced it is real. In other words, one is lying to himself.

Cashsteady:
Dearr nairalanders.. i most confess am already having this feelings that God doesn't exist and I think I'm turning atheist



pls I need someone to enlighten me.

No one can enlighten YOU. Only one person in the entire world can enlighten YOU: YOU.

Atheists and theists can say whatever and present different arguments. But only YOU will ultimately determine what is true for YOU.

Keep asking questions and seeking the truth. There is the internet, books and learning materials around you for you to liberate yourself.
That's all we, the society, can do for you.

But eventually, freedom is a path you'll have to take on your own.

Islam is a cancer. Religion in its entirety is a disease.

PRE4:
Very soon,those your scientific logic and knowledge will fail you when you need it most.Fate will put you in a condition that you will need God,mark my words.

Bla bla bla bla...science is based on REALITY. The scientific method deals with the ever reliable laws of nature that are precise, profoundly concise and sound.

That your imaginary sky daddy fails YOU in prayer and when YOU need him to do REAL things for you doesn't mean science does the same for others. Stop drinking the blood infused koolaid and get over your narcissistic religious self.

PRE4:
It means you are over learned but your wisdom is foolishness in the mysteries of GOD.
The Bible have predicted about atheists a long time ago in the book of Romans 1:1-d end.
You atheists are just being adamant and stiffnecked,so God have given you guys up to reprobacy.

You are carnal minded and cant understand spiritual things because they are foolishness unto you

Atheists have existed long before the Bible was written. The Bible cannot "predict" something that was already in existence before it was written, that's just common sense lol.

peacesampson:
Is so disheartening that u believe in God and yet bad things keeps happening

It's one of the harsh realities of life. But I must say, even if you stop believing in a god, bad things will still happen.

Life happens and imaginary friends (or a belief in them) cannot stop it.

peacesampson:
There is no God,there is no God...if there he is so mean..

The problem of evil is one of the most strongest arguments against the existence of gods.

It's a good start. But you have to keep questioning. Only YOU can decide if you want to keep believing fairytales or face the truth.

CAPSLOCKED:
IN SEVERAL CHAPTERS OF THE BIBLE GOD INSTRUCTED PEOPLE TO LIE.

ALLAH AND YAHWEH, LUNATIC DEITIES.

Written by *in Matt dillhaunty's voice* MORAL THUGS.

Lying for the cause of Islam.

In Islam, lying is originally not permitted but
it's not considered a sin if you're doing in defense of the religion or to convert an infidel/apostate.

Islam is a misogynistic, barbaric, hellish, stone age religion.

naturefellow:
sorry, your ideology is sadly mistaken

Fil me in on why.

InyinyaAgbaOku:
STDs nko? Aside condoms, other contraceptives don't prevent them

People still contract STDs in post marital sex.