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Ladylite:
I was not even trying. I was just gisting.

Ah yes...I agree. You were trying to gist about evidence in defence for your almighty God. Lol

Ladylite:
Try hard enough and sleep on your ignorance. You just might have to go to church tomorrow.

Yeah sure I do love to go to church- TO LAUGH.

Ladylite:
You guys are jokers not comedians.

Nonsensical religious platitude.

Ladylite:
My pictures solves your problem.

Prove his non existence pleaaasseeeee


Not some link of a person you do not know. Personally prove it... Else you are as false as you just pointed out.

So I am supposed to disprove something that has never been shown to exist?

Then by that logic you can claim anything is real. I can claim Spider-Man is real or Superman is real and I wouldn't have to prove it.

I will just subscribe to the nonsensical shifting of burden of proof by saying doubters should disprove it.

I have a magical teapot orbiting my house. And it is going to make you burn in hell for eternity. I don't have to prove it you only have to disprove it.

Now do you see why YOUR kind of argument is a silly sorry ass attempt at shifting the burden of proof?

The burden of proof lies on the claimant. So try again. If you make the claim that "god exists." Provide your evidence.

Ladylite:
Because I believe that there are unexplainable things my mind is open to any proof of the existence of such things... Proofs exist in books and experiences or encounters.

Everyone has their own encounters with the unexplained phenomenon, some experience these encounters just before death and others like me have had Near Death Experiences which became proof to us of the afterlife and we know for a fact that there is life after death and the curiosity of such experience kept out minds open to who or what controls the afterlife and we began to understand many things that are hidden from some of you that are locked up in this physical realm.
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Anecdotal utterances are not evidence. The plural of anecdote is anecdotes not evidence.

Your inability to explain some things is not proof or evidence for other things. That is a false dichotomy born from ignorance.

Personal experience is not evidence.

NDEs are not evidence.

Christ on a bike! Pick up a füčking book OTHER than the füčking slave manual called the Bible.

Ladylite:
Yet there are others who without the NDE encounters have had their share of the supernatural in the constant occurrences of dejavu or premonitions.... Which science is yet to explain... Where you can dream or see someone dying or some occurrence happening and few days later it happens in the exact same way.... Kindly explain that. .

And the argument from ignorance continues. the inability of science explain some things does not automatically mean they do or do not exist.

And dreaming about some occurrence that later happened still does not act as evidence for your claims. There are other dreams that failed to materialise and I am sure you will not remember those because they do no fit in to your sorry arguments. You have a memory bias in trying to justify the absurd belief in a god because you are without actual irrefutable evidence.

Try harder.

Ladylite:
But to shut your mind and think there is no God is the biggest ignorance of all. .

No. Actually the biggest ignorance of all is to claim that something exists and has a really big impact on everyday life WHILE NOT being able to remotely demonstrate how such thing exists

OR THAT

the thing has an impact on everyday life without making ridiculous leaps in superstitious reasoning and appeals to subjective and unreliable evidence.

Once again, that's the textbook definition of ignorance. Provide your evidence.

Ladylite:
For the universe, and all in it could NEVER have intelligently existence by itself. .

Your inability to grasp the high plausibility that the universe could in fact have existed since time immemorial is not evidence that it could not have existed by itself.

It is only evidence that YOU are mentally incapable of reviewing several other hypothetical scenarios of high possibility about the origin of the universe.

After all you believe that God existed since infinity.

Ladylite:
I hope you know that there are people in this world that have not met you and to them you do not exist.... Consider that o.

What a ridiculous argument. We demand evidence does not mean we only demand evidence by sight seeing.

No one sees oxygen molecules but we know it's there. Because we can test for it using the scientific method. It is the single most reliable, verifiable, falsifiable method of determining and understanding reality. Science does not rely on the five senses. There are several other methods of recognising things that exists.

Do you care to explain why we have not found ANY (at all) scientific evidence WHATSOEVER for God? Oh never mind. You're indoctrinated.

Your desperate (and ignorant) attempts to identify gaps in human reasoning so as to fit in your idea of a god further suggests that you are very much aware you have no such thing as objective evidence for your claims.

What a bum.

Ladylite:
Finally I would rather live my life for God than live hoping with empty conviction that he doesn't exist..

So that means that your service is not actually based on evidential conviction. You're just pretending to believe. You are gambling on all gods. Because we have close to 5000 of them.

Why not serve all the gods if you don't want to end up serving the wrong one?

Or do you just go with the one you were born in as the only correct one..I K R...lol
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Ladylite:
I wonder why people like you are so bend of making others join you in your unbelief... Maybe you once believed and it didn't work for you because you went about it so superstitiously.... Well I have proof and I have a good relationship with God. I know there is heaven and hell. I am also aware that God is not responsible for the mishaps in this world... The devil is not either... Human beings are..

You, Christians, are the once charged with preaching to all the corners of the Earth. Atheists have no such obligation. We are just trying to protect our society from religious idiots will try to project their warped, asinine beliefs and understanding of morality into the law.

When theists stop being such monumental assholes, we might give them a break.

Ladylite:
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The devil exists but can not do anything without a human being.... Yes, we are more powerful than evil. [/s]

Religious platitude. The same devil that rebelled Yahweh before humans were created cannot do "anything" without humans? Lol

I always say that I share the opinion that religion is mental illness.

TheExecutioner:
Time, space and matter are the three major components of what we call reality.

Those 3 components could only come into existence at the same instance and not on different occasions.

For example, if only matter exists but you don't have time or space, where would you keep the matter and when would you keep it?

The Bible is the only religious book which recognises that time space and matter came into existence simultaneously.

The very first chapter of the Bible states that time, space and matter came into existence at the same time:

Genesis 1:1 In the beginning(time) God created the heaven(space) and the earth(matter).

In just the first 10 words of the Bible we have God bringing together the 3 elements of reality: time, space and matter together simultaneously.

No other Book or religion other than the Judeo-Christian faith has accomplished this feat.

Yup same Bible that endorses slavery, homophobia, misogyny and wholesale genocidal cleansing.

A book that talk about talking snakes, talking donkeys and a global flood is the worst thing that can be compared to an actual scientific text.

Ladylite:
Let us not deceive ourselves.

As long as there are too many unexplainable things in this life.... There must be forces beyond our control and realms beyond our reach.

God does not exist, HE LIVESSSSS


He does not need believers, we believe because we need Him.

God of the gaps

"Oh we don't know therefore god exists."

"We don't know X therefore Y exists."

Read about why it is a nonsensical argument here:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_of_the_gaps

kinzation:
Tis is just in front of my church now
guys I'm using this opportunity to invite you to my church

Restoration Global Bible ministry..
A place where lives are touched ...


It's just in front of thr substation

Maybe na your church way dey shout fire fire affect the substation now

RiyadhGoddess:
This PISS people again
Thank God I saw the light...
Read my signature

"The light" couldn't save the people in it from death.

All religions are lies.

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Erediauwa:
Hello athiestandproud, is there any bad thing you wanna say about God?

Please do that quickly as I would love to inherit your girlfriend and your land at Sokoh Estate.



From your brother,
Jason.

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Fear tactics don't work on unbelievers of your mythology.
A free mind fears only the physical. Not the unproven spiritual.


Jesus is GAY

The reactions and comments of a lot of nairaland christians concerning Leah Sharibu will be a good way of demonstrating how religion can warp the mentality and minds of originally good people.


I will like to personally thank them for turning more people away from their religion(even more than Atheists) by their own comments so far on the issue.

odigiri1983:
More buses on which roads?

The transportation infrastructure is inadequate and many existing roads are largely in bad state.More buses are not needed.Government should build more infrastructure and expand existing roads before bringing more buses.

Road expansion is a myth. It does not solve the problem of congestion. If anything at all, going by the stats it makes it worse.

Build more lanes and more drivers will come.

Religion is the last relic of the primitive mind. It's eradication is necessary for the next generation of evolved minds. - Unknown.

Religion is the greater rape of the black mind, than slavery ever was -Barbara Hillary.

Imagine being stupid enough to believe that a man and his family ran a global zoo without prior experience with a wooden boat that was constructed from an instruction manual that fell from the sky.

Religion is mental illness.

socialmediaman:
OMG this really got me thinking. I mean, I need reference for your statistics, but this is worrisome! Is this why they say religion is the opium of the society?

http://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/average-iq-by-country/

My post was influenced by a 2019 research but it seems like that has been reviewed so it's now at 84 rather than 75.

Also the religious statistics is from Wikipedia
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Nigeria

BRATISLAVA:
Frankly they don't care about Nigerians. They just go to Nigeria to rape their resources in an environment where they are unregulated because of their yellow skin status. Who the president is couldn't bother them. They collect their money and move on.

You expect China to manage Nigeria embassy for Nigeria?

Nigeria is finished. A country where the average IQ is less than 85. Where citizens vote in/help incompetent leaders rig elections.

A country ravaged totally by religion and superstition cum corruption.

A society where its citizens do not give a shit about welfare because more than 80% of the people are waiting to die so they can go to a better place called Heaven where they don't need to work to get fed.

A society that prioritises tribe and religion over actual competence is doomed to fail.

And things like these are what you get from such a ridiculous society. I weep for Nigeria.

mdnass:
always differentiate such can only exist in christianity muslims will never fall for this. proud of my religion.

Yes. Muslims don't fall for such stupidity.

Except believing

•Muhammad flew to the moon on a winged horse
•Split the moon in half
•Married a 9-year old kid and had sex with her
•There are 77 virgins in heaven
•Sperm coming from the ribs.
•Unbelievers will be fuel for hell fire
Etc

Muslims are intelligent people. Be proud. Smh.

Ladylite:
See I can't be here wasting time with you, when you have questions that your atheistic mindset can't answer, then you will know that wiki was created by a confused person just like you and angry that so many people believe in what they do not understand.

How about I tell you that your Bible was also written by confused people who had no idea where the sun went at night? Heck...we didn't even know what caused thunder and what shape the earth had during that time period but some drunk goat herders wrote the book claiming a god exists that you now spend swell time defending on nairaland since who knows when.

Like the popular quote says "All are lunatics but who can analyse his delusion is a thinker/philosopher."

Atheists do not claim to know everything but we do have evidence to back up the things we claim to know.

Religion on the other hand has fück all for its claims and shifts the burden of proof instead..lol

Ladylite:
Did you even try to find out if there are diabolical powers, or things science can't explain?

What a nonsensical argument. So how many religions have you studied before accepting Christianity as the infallible right one? or you were just lucky to be born into the right religion and about half of the rest of the world weren't that lucky...

Even if there are diabolical powers or things science can't explain, it still will not automatically mean that your god existed or did those things.

That's a flawed and failed form of reasoning. "X can't be explained. Therefore Y is true."

Clearly you did not read the link. Typical close-minded dishonest nairaland christian.

Ladylite:
I have exhausted wiki and am still on dark web, none of them can actually answer all questions to prove that God does not exist.

Of course...shift the burden of proof.. lol.. How can you disprove something that has never been proved to exist?

Anyone can claim what they want then, since "if it cannot be disproved, it must be true."

So ladylite.. I have a magical teapot orbiting the earth at 5000m/s. It is true and you must accept it as true because you can't disprove it. See how that sounds? That's how stupid your argument sounds.

Ladylite:
Pls have peace in your confusion if it works for you.

Religious platitude.

Ladylite:
At the afterlife we will know.

Yup...2000+ years of Religion and the best evidence is "wait till you die to find out."

Ladylite:
There is no punishment for believing in God. So I won't waste my time not believing

Pascal's wager.

There is no punishment for believing in Allah. So I won't waste my time not believing.

There's no punishment for believing in the flying spaghetti monster. So I won't waste my time not believing.

There's no punishment for believing in Vishnu. So I want to waste my time not believing.

There's no punishment for believing in Brahma. So I won't waste my time not believing.

There's no punishment for believing in {insert god}. So I won't waste my time not believing.

Why not believe in all the gods then? Lol y'all Christians and your type of reasoning is just laughable.

Ladylite:
Wiki is your God abi, pls sit and find answers o.

No, actually it's just a website where the flawed reasoning of indoctrinated people has been documented.

So you might want to check it out. Oh wait never mind you're indoctrinated.

Karlebolu:

Why laugh ye at the mention of the FSM, you heathen. May he touch your heart with his noodly appendages. Ramen.

ojaysam25:
capitalize the G when making reference to God....

Which god?


Odin
Allah
Zeus
Sango
Yahweh
The flying spaghetti monster
Amadioha
Thor
Olodumare
Venus
Vishnu
Shiva
Buddha
Esu
Ifa

You can see there are so many gods...4000 of them actually. Why should I write yours in caps?

Ladylite:
The fact that you believe there is no God yet you do not have sure answers with proof of where you will be going when you die and you can not explain dejavu or near death experiences is proof that there are many many infinite concepts that your little experience on earth is yet to grasp.....


There is God oh.


Argue when you can explain where sense is kept in your body. Or where your consciousness goes when you sleep or die

God of the gaps fallacy


"Oh we don't know what happens after death therefore heaven MUST exist."

"I don't know where sense is kept in the body therefore god must exist."


"I don't understand X therefore y must be true."


Read about why your reasoning is flawed and is a nonsensical way of arguing.

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/God_of_the_gaps

Michellekabod2:
this is the most disgraceful comment I have seen on the religion section. Even jesusjnr can't be this ret@rded.

I gave up on that dude a long time ago. Nairaland Christians are a different kind of brainwashed.

The major problem with religion is that it allows people to believe en-masse what only idiots and lunatic fools would believe in isolation. -Sam Harris

Congratulations

doggedfighter:
Fighting for their god is such a difficult task sometimes they lose it totally

I love it when theists especially Christians lose their shit and resort to all sorts of insults in debate threads.

It is a good time to empirically demonstrate how one can be good without religion and how religion makes otherwise good people to do bad and justify it.

Like the popular quote says: "Nothing else makes men more comfortable and content with doing evil than doing it in the name of God."

So it will be a first hand, real time evidence of how religion poisons the mind to think it's okay to insult other people and their families because it's in the defence of god's name. I'm always glad when I encounter such theists, even more so, Christians.

So be of good cheer!

ABINTUK:
e pain you die... Kuku go take sniper na.

Big muumu.

The only thing you inherited from your father is stuupidity..

Lol go on. Spit all that vile shit the holy spirit has put in you. Come on...let it out and let the whole world know how the true Christian behaves.

Don't back out now. Say more stuff. Show and share all that love the Christ in you preached.

LordReed:
Didn't you hear? The babies were thinking bad thoughts in the womb! They were thinking of all the rape and murder they'd commit once they leave the womb!

Insanity. LMFAO!

Oh my... poor little foolish kids! How could they have thought the all-powerful god wouldn't read their minds from the womb! After all he sees everything..including masturbating couples. god loves live porn and bdsm! Big shame Sodom and Gomorrah made him get fed up!

[quote author=Geekop post=86121400][/quote]Then why do Christians pray?

If God's plan is set in stone. Why do Christians think they can change gods mind?

kernniejay:

I have seen your philosophical write up and i can tell you they are made up of your personal perceptions and opinions without any concrete basis or justification. Christianity does not imply a particular religion, it is derived from the name "Christ" and Jesus Christ does not practice any religion, He is simply the Way, the Truth and Life. (Check John 14:6), if you know this truth, He will set you free from any other distorted knowledge or opinion that you think you have (John 8:32). People that believe in Jesus and accept Him as Lord and Savior are the true Christians that are recognized in heaven, not just the church goers you were talking about in your write up.
As for the atheism that you claim your so-called christians believe is a religion, well the Bible has a word for them in Psalm 14:1. No christian ever calls atheism a religion, it is rather a FALLACY. It is a deception whereby the devil has manipulated their mind to denounce, deny and reject anything about God. It is my prayer that they will see the light of God and their darkened minds that have been captured by the enemy be liberated, amen.

Read the post again. This time more slowly.

https://www.nairaland.com/5647531/4-quick-ways-identifying-dishonest

Nephilim:
There's a huge war going against Christianity, be glad you are in a safe zone, read Matthew 24:6-9, and you can read further.

Lol

Dididrumz:
This God matter is just so crazy.
We are so eager to defend God and yet the only proof we have is in a book written by MAN. a book that is inconsistent in itself.

People like us who claim to be believers go to that Book and pick verses that suits us and drop the rest. We have no proof.

You are waking up gradually.

The god story is a LIE. It was written to deceive as MANY as possible. And that is why there are so many contradictions in the same book. It is so that anyone, ANYONE can find the parts that suit them and believe it.

Religious books are ambigous for that sole reason. That is why we have a lot of Christian denominations based on the same Bible and all of them have doctrines cherry picked from the same book.