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showafrica:
The brain is our problem, if only we were idiots we would not have had issues. If the holy books had written what you wrote up there, you will still think other wise. Just live as if you dont know anything, too much wisdom na wahala. God created man and the universe, the problem is we trying to imagine God. For your comfort, you may imagine God as anything and anything is everything. For human comprehension, the holy books want us to imagine it as a man. In another universe, it could be imagined as sth similar to them. What I dont want to believe is that all these happened by accident. If I believe the big bang theory, why wont i believe the holy books perhaps, I dont have anything to lose. Since we are the king of the earth, I think we need to put all our energy on how to defeat our challenges and rule the earth and the sister planets. God will not stop any human adventure.

We have issues because we are idiots. An intelligent species would not be so invasive, destroying everything in their so-called home. And inventing nonexistent gods as a means of explaining otherwise natural and completely normal phenomena.

Ahasco:
Religion has always been for the gullible. From time immemorial their books have been filled with flaws that not even them can comprehend but defend it with all stupidity.

Correct. I am of the opinion that religion should be classified as a common cause of mental illness. Because more often than not, you need to leave the bubble before you can see the rot in it.

Midas01:
so how does the nonsense you wrote invalidate religion or invalidate the fact there's a God?

How does the belief that we are important and higher beings than animals cause caos in the world.b

Abeg, try get sense for this new year. E too early.

Thinking that the earth was "made" for humans creates a (albeit fake) sense of superiority and unchalantness. This is evident regarding how we are wasting the planet. Mining uncontrollably, producing non-biodegradable plastic indiscriminately, abusing animals because we assume we are "superior" to them and manufacturing incredibly dangerous nuclear warheads.

On the other hand, if we can all get off our high horses and get ourselves to understand that we are privileged to live on this marble, we will take more steps to care for it and ultimately care for ourselves as well. Understanding that the earth was not created solely for our pleasure or "dominion" raises that self-assessment and self-awareness of our actions. Which drives us to do better.

That is why we have increasing movements and goals for climate change, conservation of wildlife and natural resources, switching to renewable forms of energy and more efficient forms of utilising the planet's resources.

But I'll be shitting myself if I expected a religious nonce like you who is eagerly waiting for the end of the world to even remotely grasp the concept of preservation and sustainability.

MizzPhoney:
Smiles!! Seems I had missed so great a deal here.. lol Hey Pumpkin! Someone took your cookies? lol!! How are you by the way?

I'm good. Thanks.

shadeyinka:
Your figure is way too large and extremely at variance with estimated figures.

What is the simultaneous probability of having another earth in the universe?
With water cycle
With carbon cycle
With Oxygen gas in abundance
With a sea of Water in abundance
With temperature that allows life
With a moon to slow down earth's rotation and stabilize earth's weather
With a magnetic core to generate magnetic fields which protects against UV radiations
With size similar to the earth
With a sun/star similar in size and irradiation power to the sun
With a radius of rotation similar to the earth

If the probability of only one of these occurring is 1/1000, the probability of two simultaneously occuring at 1/1000 each is 1/(1000x1000)=0.0000001

Probability of life ≠ Probability of having another earth.

Life on other planets do not necessarily need to have the same properties as earth. Life could be silicon based for example as silicon is structurally similar to carbon.

So that alone increases the scope of how life can form and consequently the probability.

bindukwe:
I don't have a problem with that statement, my problem lies with nihilistic beliefs that grow from the statement.

Nihilism isn't inherently bad. At least as used in this context. I think it makes life even more precious. The realisation that out of all this nothingness, I can actually feel joy is an exonerating feeling and makes me want to enjoy every moment I get, of this gift called life.

bindukwe:
Your decisions don't need to have an effect of cosmic proportions before it's considered significant.

That'll be self-contradicting. On an individual scale or interpersonal/community scale yes our actions do have consequences. But when it comes to the cosmos it is pretty much negligible if not entirely nonexistent. -Think about it- what is the single most powerful thing we have developed to date? Nuclear weapons.

Yet we have several events that happened in solar systems that even all the nukes all over the world combined cannot measure up to 10% of this cosmic events. We are that small.

bindukwe:
I also never said we only need a God to be accountable, that's why we have laws.
Those laws are predicated on the belief that our actions matter. Even the God in the bible saw the usefulness of laws.

The law can be useful for some but not all. A lot of people (say 90%?) go through life without having read the constitution and they live their entire lives without going to jail.

And that somehow would be my point..Why would we need laws to determine right from wrong? Because of our innate nature? It further drives home my point. If we were as intelligent as we thought we would be able to care for each other without needing laws. We are not as special as we think.

bindukwe:
Things can quickly degenerate to lawlessness once you believe your actions are insignificant.

Actions have consequences. It just depends on the stage at which we're looking at it. Every decision we make affect our lives or the life of others in one way or the other. But on a global or cosmic scale more often than not it is insignificant.

Me being an armed robber could lead to a loss of human lives and/or reduce a lot of people to poverty.

On the grand scale it does not in any way have an impact on the formation of the next Black hole.

This is my point.

bindukwe:
You need something that keeps you in check, be it God or laws. They are both useful.

Not true. Not everybody needs god or laws to leave between the limits of civility. they are countries with extremely low crime rates and that doesn't mean that they are particularly strong believers of God or that they have strict laws.

I think the next stage of evolutionary advancement would be humans who are able to coexist relatively peacefully with each other without needing objective laws.

bindukwe:
Let's dissect the idea of God.
what do you think God represents in the minds of those who wrote the bible?
The highest authority there is.

The idea of God in the minds of those who wrote the Bible seems to me to be a totalitarian, authoritarian, unquestionable dictator who created the universe and rules it the way he wishes. That would have been probably fine but they also went on to say that this God loves us unconditionally. These two premises are self-contradicting and logically impossible.

bindukwe:
Who'd would you submit too? A human with the same deficiencies as you and with the same likelihood as you to fall for temptations? Or someone above our level of temptations who has no one he answers to?

Why must I "submit?"

Anyway if I were to I would probably go for a human who understood that he had same deficiencies as I and he's able to actually thrash things out with me and we can reach an agreement as to how to move forward.

Submitting to someone who has no other person to answer to might be a gamble as any wrong move would now being possible to question or even acknowledge. But theists seem to be comfortable with this. And that's probably why Christopher Hitchens said the theistic believe is usually "born out of the desire to be a slave."

And yes, that has been personally confirmed in followers of Christianity who label themselves "I am nothing without Jesus" or those who decry "Use me oh lord." "my riches without Jesus are nothing."

bindukwe:
The idea of God is a a useful one. Atrocities has been committed in his name by men who believe theirs is the final authority.

yes and that is a damning thought: the fact that more atrocities have been committed in the name of God than in the name of Satan.

And that people feel more comfortable when doing evil in the name of God than for any other purpose.

bindukwe:
You can't function adequately without value systems. You must value something or what it could offer you to pursue it. And God represents the highest value possible. He's an ideal. The most moral one who can't be judged.

And I'm speaking of God on a purely psychological level stripped off its metaphysical attributes.

Value systems are necessary. But a god who makes himself infallible and unquestionable to his own creation definitely doesn't value his own creation either. because he if he did he would be willing to offer a listening ear as to what they thought about his actions.

That sort of God would then be flawed according to his own standards.

bindukwe:


What powers such assertion is the fundamental belief that nothing is better than something.

This is one of the thoughts that leads one down the road of nihilism. I want to assume you know the consequences of thinking you're insignificant.

Religion was man's invention to deal with that thought.
This idea of insignificance usually leads to the adoption of immoral choices - because what exactly is holding you back from killing your neighbour. His/her life doesn't matter after all.

If your life doesn't matter than the effect of your choices wouldn't matter either.
Why should it matter if you don't matter. Being moral is impossible without accountability.

You may say - *I can hold myself accountable"
Then my question would be - what makes you so sure you should be your own standard of morality? Which is usually the inspiration for tyranny.

History has given us enough lessons.

... we can have a debate on this here, if you're interested.

Quite the opposite. According to the available evidence, the best conclusion to come to is that a lot of planets exists. We have discovered a lot of planets and so far we can only find life on Earth.

So far it is safe to say that we are alone. The only issue is that we have not even discovered up to 1% of the observable universe so it is a huge leap to conclude that life cannot exist in other planets. Because theoretically they can. Even though we have not actually observed them.

Due to the above, it is pretty obvious that we exist on ONE (out of nine) planet in ONE solar system out of a billion others in ONE galaxy out of a trillion others. If we didn't exist it wouldn't change anything. Any significance we think we have on the happenings on the Universal scale is an illusion. It just is.

And if you need a book to tell you that murder is bad or that you have to respect and be nice to people until they prove otherwise, if you need a god who has been proven to be sadistic and misogynistic and totally deprived of actual morality to tell you how to be good then you're not a good person.

salt1:
I beg to disagree, Sir.
I find this discovery an evidence of an Intelligent Design who's still creating new universes. .

The discovery of planets are not evidence of intelligent design. If anything it points to the fact that planets are formed and exist randomly and those that exist in certain habitable zones and contain building blocks of life in sufficient quantity are those capable of supporting life.

And why would an intelligent designer be creating universes? According to the Bible, God has created everything. So you are contradicting your own belief when you say that God is still creating new universes.

salt1:
My brand of religion, the Christian faith, admits that there are other worlds and other forms and phases of life. .

The Christian Faith admits that the other forms of life that exist are not detectable by any physical means. That means that your faith says that life that exist is not bound by the laws of nature and so they cannot be carbon-based life. Because carbon based life is detectable.
So your premise is wrong.

Until you can show me that the Bible specifically stated that other planets did exist and that life could and indeed exist on these planets.

salt1:
Man is in control of only one planet called Earth, not the entire universe..

Wrong. Man is not in control of anything except his own life. Heck, we can't even control our own lives that is why we have accidental deaths and we all make silly mistakes virtually every day.

The earth can and will do fine without man. If anything, we are bad "controllers" who have only inflicted damage after damage to the planet.

salt1:
God rules His vast creation.
Thanks for your patience.

Religious semantics. Enjoy.

shadeyinka:
I guess you've never seen the calculated probability odds that a similar planet to earth could exist!

It's near to impossible!

A 0.000001% probability could mean millions of you're talking about the universe.

Brunicekid:
Insignificant life?

How has our existence on earth impacted the universe?

Brunicekid:
Am waiting significant personality, Bro.

What do you mean?

So how about we fix the one we're on before moving to another planet?


But at least this will humble the silly notion some theists project that a god somewhere behind the sky created everything that exists because of humans and made us in charge. Millions other habitable planets exist and anything could be on them. Which could well include organisms far superior to our intellect and evolutionary/ecological advancement.

The universe does not give a shit about us. We only exist on this marble as an insignificant life form on an insignificant portion of a very very very big collection of marbles.

But somehow religion creates this nonexistent important image of humans. And that's why the world is in chaos.

Maximus69:
You've been quiet all these while, that shows you don't want anyone to tell you something contrary to your resolution.

Yes..I am being quiet mostly because I have a life off nairaland. That may sound strange to you but some of us do.

Also, I may have been sick of watching YOU think YOU can read other people's MINDS and impose what YOU think they're thinking on them as reasons for their actions.

Not all of us are comfortable around people who makes assumptions based on what a nonexistent ghost tells them..

Maximus69:
My question for you is just one.

From your own understanding, how do you think humans can live together as one big family without having to do with conflicts or wars?

I don't know. My majors are on microorganisms not social studies. But talking about wars. There's one major cause of wars: RELIGION. If we want to attain world peace; let's start by ditching that bitch.

Masking:
Which book? The bible or JW publications?
Cos neither does. This screenshot is from this weeks meeting.

If the bible were truly written by ancient men, and not by inspiration from God(2timothy 3:16), how were the writers in the olden days able to decipher those scientifically proven truths recorded in job 26:7 and Isaiah 40:22?? Cos even hundreds of years after, people still thought the earth was flat and being held by 2 turtles.

The scientifically debunked lies in the Bible far outweigh the number of truths in the Bible.

A list of lies that were debunked in the Bible;
1. A talking snake in genesis.

2. Noah's global flood is geographically impossible.

3. Adam and eve populating the earth is laughable. As incest cannot give rise to the world today as we know it..

4. Assembling a pair each of all animals today under one ark is ridiculous and impossible.

5. Donkeys don't talk.

I could go on to 100. There are that much superstitious nonsense in the Bible it cannot be said to have come from an intelligent divine being. If any at all.

Also the fact that the Bible got some predictions correctly does not make it automatically true. The Qur'an also has some scientific predictions that were found to be unfalsifiable. Does that necessarily mean that the Quran came from the true God? No.

Masking:
I still dont get how the bible supports genocide/slavery? Are you talking about warfare in isreal?

Cos the bible clearly shows d law was only a tutor, but you are now under grace, d law of christ

Oh your masters didn't tell you that one. Read Exodus 21. Not only does your book permit the ownership of human slaves it also outlines the conditions of owning and treating one.

Masking:
@d bolded. If that's the case, you may neva understand where the witnesses are coming from cos they believe in the total authority of the bible in this issue and others.

If discarding a book that supports slavery means I will not understand a minority group of religious extremists. Then so be it. However that means you also can't understand where extremist Muslims are "coming from" when they do stuff like kill people or blow people up because the Quran says so.

Masking:
Are you a scientist? (You moniker suggests) On the menu for the meetings this week were 2 videos where 2 scientist got to explain why they dropped their belief in evolution and embraced creation.

I cannot understand what evolution has got to do with this but anyway you're making a fallacy called the agreement from authority. That 2 scientists discredit evolution doesn't automatically make evolution false. You will still have to demonstrate why evolution is false and why creation is true.

That Trump and Buhari stop drinking coffee or stop wearing clothes does not automatically make drinking coffee and wearing clothes false or inappropriate. To convince me, you will still have to show why both actions are not appropriate before I accept it. So that's why your premise is fallacious and unequivocally false.

Masking:
Besides science itself, the study of the bible was a compelling reason. If you can/may, pls look up those videos.

Your book says the Earth is 6000 years old even though we have, through several methods, found stones that are as old as 10 million years old. How do you reconcile that? The Bible is merely a book that is largely unscientific and it perfectly exhibits the mentality of stone age goat herders in the dark ages. The Bible is totally flawed in the face of scientific scrutiny. But it is understandable considering the time it was written.

Masking:
Now on whether i hv regard for the bible, the answer is a strong yes.

At first i just regarded it cos i was told to.

Right. So does it ever occur to you that if you were initially told to regard the Quran you would most likely be defending Islam today?

Put simply you were indoctrinated but I appreciate your honesty.

Masking:
But after a thorough study with the aid of the "teach book", I could then understand and defend my regard for that book. Till date chapter 2 remains my favorite in that book. Reading and doing a third party research on the fulfilment of Isaiah's prophesy and some others, left an overwhelming effect on me that can never be taken away.

I still dont understand how a study of the same bible made you faithless. Care to elucidate? Pls?

LIKE I've said earlier; after discovering that the Bible supported slavery, misogyny, genocidal killings, tribalism and deliberate scientific ignorance.

I found out that it was best I admitted the truth that it was drafted by ancient men who knew nothing about the earth at the time and tag it only exists today as a control tool.

Why do you ignore these obvious truths in the Bible?

Maximus69:
Hmmmmmmmmm, thanks to MizzPhoney.

I assumed you've traveled afar in thoughts away from Nairaland issues.

So how far about chatting to know what exactly made you think all religions are false?

I have replied to you in your other post. Also, everything you need to conclude why all religions are false are in the OP. If you have any problems with the points mentioned. Let me know.

Hefy4real:
https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/jehovahs-witnesses-why-no-blood-transfusions/

https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/g201209/medical-alternatives-to-blood-transfusions/

Understand them first before you criticize

Füčk off from my face.

Maximus69:
OK you're a confirmed ATHEIST!

Yes. And you are a confirmed witness. A hater of blood transfusion and would rather people die than receive blood.

Maximus69:
No wonder you wish all religions were false so that nobody will watch your back as to whatever you choose to do.

Yes...Also I would wish you stop projecting YOUR shïtty opinions of others who choose to not partake in your delusion. If having Jehovah watch my back means I'll be happy to let a 14-day old child die by not receiving blood then I'm happy nobody is "watching my back."

Maximus69:
Well it's all a spiritual thing, if you wish all religion should be false it's OK, that's your own opinion.

And maybe you could also take your own silly advice and shove it your äss too. Because YOUR opinion about what I THINK isn't a fact or necessarily true. So quit the woofückery.

Maximus69:
It doesn't change the fact that mankind have tried all forms of logics to unite all the nations on planet earth as one family, all to no avail.

Because people like you keep peddling religion with it's silly "You are wrong and we are right" mentality. If "all forms of logic" (whatever that means anyway) failed to unite the world, then that's thanks to you religionists who continue to sow seeds of division, hate and bigotry.

Maximus69:
But the one and only organization that's performing the MAGIC (as you'll prefer to call it) is a RELIGIOUS group known as Jehovah's Witnesses.
So due to this undeniable fact, i don't buy your idea that all forms of worship is BULLSHIT Sir!

Yes. I can SURELY see that, as all sovereign nations of the world have now adopted JWs as a means of uniting their people. All president's have accepted the JW god as their god and consequently a lot of countries are passing bills in their senate that will enable more people become JWs because even though all other religions are stupid and false JWs are the only forms of worship that aren't bullshit. (See what I did there).

Kudos to Jehovah for uniting 7 billion people under a single religious group that believes only 144,000 of us are going to heaven. Hallelujah!!

Masking:
I don't know the bible like many witnesses out there. I'm still studying. But Lemme try and take you on with the little I know.

But first, is it OK to conclude that you do not have that much regard for the bible?@d bolded?

Please lets not insult ourselves. Lets try and make logical arguments with all civility

It will interest you that "many witnesses out there" too don't know the Bible. They only bask in what your leaders have instructed/allowed them to know about the Bible. Reading the Bible and understanding it often leads one to become faithless. (As is was in my case.)

So don't ascribe that much glory on them just yet.

I don't have regard for the Bible because it endorses slavery, genocide, tribalism, homophobia, deceit and incredulity. Do you have regard for the Bible? If yes, why?

joyandfaith:
if you are a doctor shame on you. definite treatment of lymphoma is targeted therapy . any other treatment rendered is supportive. can you define targeted therapy? do not tell me it is not available in nigeria.
vampire doctor

Yes!! I love how you picked ONE of all the listed diseases because it suits your narrative. Classic move from you there! Bravo!

This post and thread will serve as a first hand result of how religion brainwashes people and makes them dishonest: Cherry-picking scenarios that suit them to justify their evil actions.

Thank you for giving me and so many other readers of this post now and in many years to come, a concrete reason to run away from religion. Or at least to desist from the cult called Jehovah witnesses.

Hairyrapunzel:
You called me an idiot first.
You lack humanity deal with it. See someone that said she has something upstairs saying that there are other alternatives to severe jaundice saying neonatologists were wrong to have prescribed an exchange blood transfusion. I am not suprised.


FYI no experiment has been done on newborns for alternatives to EBT for severe hyperbilirubinemia.
Maybe your gb has done.
Newborns are not lab rats.

She has proven beyond reasonable doubt that she doesn't have the slightest idea of human biology or medicine or healthcare.

She's only reiterating what she has being told in the kingdom hall. Smh

joyandfaith:
tell me one medical disease that blood is used as definite treatment.
people who have nothing upstairs always resort to insults. I am not surprised .

Oh yes..of course you have never been between the walls of medical school. I can now understand the ignorance.

Help yourself

https://www.healthline.com/health/transfusion-therapy


https://www.webmd.com/cancer/lymphoma/blood-disorder-types-and-treatment

I am sure congnitive dissonance will not allow you open the links. So I have a screenshot for you, just in case.

Oh..and you're projecting if your signature basically calls people "fools" then you turn around to say people who insult others have "nothing upstairs."

Christ! How low will you christians go?! Smh

To be honest, the story makes a bit more sense if you look at it from the aspect of sex rather than eating a fruit.

It's still bullshït but I can at least see a ray of sanity if the passage metaphorically meant the forbidden fruit was sex.

joyandfaith:
blood is being transfused unnecessary.
death of patients who refused blood transfusion may be due to other factors.
blood therapy is just a supportive care not definite treatment.

What medical degrees do you have to classify blood transfusion as a "supportive" care and not "definitive" treatment.

Are you just reiterating what your leaders told you? Because your statement suggests you don't even know jack shït about medicine or the concept of healthcare at all.

And yes, supportive care could very well mean the difference between life and death.

You are obviously blinded by your religious inclination it overrides your conscience and critical thinking skills.

MizzPhoney:
Came here just to read intelligent bacteriologist talk, only to read a confused soul's confession on his choice of foolishness... Not worth my time. Change your signature please.

So who the füčk do YOU think you are to come on my page to tell me what YOU think I should post?

I couldn't care less about YOUR opinion or YOUR approval on what I WANT or DO. So get off your high horse and go back under the rock you came out from.

joyandfaith:


I guess Hitler, Stalin,Napoleon, Ghadaffi, Osama bin laden are also jehovah witnesses
I guess crusaders, jihadists are also Jehovah witnesses
Do you have statistics of people that died even after blood transfusion?
Do you have statistics of people that survive even after refusing blood transfusion?
Do you have statistics who developed serious complications after blood trsnsfusion?

I hope government will be responsible to take responsibility for taking care of children hawking goods or being abused by their parents

I hope government should be bold enough to stop faith healing services, ritual killing and advance free fraud

I know in medicine there are always alternative to blood transfusion. Was other medical treatment options explained to the parents?

Insult is not answer to diverse opinions or beliefs.

Your questions are ambiguous:

It is like asking how many people have been saved in car crashes by seatbelts.

We know seat belts save lives but we cannot accurately quantify how many people have actually been saved by applying seatbelts.

It's the same way we cannot ascertain the actual quantity of those that wore seatbelts and still died anyway.

But ONE THING is SURE: wearing a seatbelt DECREASES the LIKELIHOOD of serious injury or death in the event of a crash.

It is the same thing with blood transfusion. When it comes to human lives every form of treatment available becomes useful because every second and action counts.

There are lots of cases of people who definitely have survived a medical condition because they received blood.

A clear example is that of this baby who of course would have given up save for the humanitarian action of the Lagos government. And would have added yet another stain to your erroneous doctrine.

There a lot of cases of people who lost their lives because they ignorantly refused to receive blood and died as a result.

Also, rather unfortunately, there are people who received blood transfusion and still died due to several other factors in healthcare.

Bottom line: Blood transfusion SAVES LIVES. And it is a damning thought: the unfortunate reality that Jehovah witnesses refuse to save the lives of people INCLUDING young children because an ancient book says so.

It is rather appalling that you guys would result to "statistics" in a bid to undermine the positives of blood transfusion and highlight the negatives instead.

Shame on all of you. Oh And thank you for comparing your religion to the likes of Hitler and Stalin. The level of brainwash in your religion is on par with that of the followers of the mentioned men.

Ifakiland:
The main problem with this country is people forming their beliefs on others, thinking theirs is the best. Now you've subjected the baby to a life of neglect and hate, cos now people dat are supposed to show it love will show it hatred cos of the blood transfusion, it will be treated as an outcast.
For the people saying the right thing was done, I hope you can adopt the child when her parents finally rejects her... Hypos.

At least the baby has A LIFE. The government saved it..you know.. because that's what REAL HUMANS do. Brainwashed ignorants like yourself place religions over actual human lives and their right to live.

And your type of belief will BE RESISTED on all sane fronts. Because again, that's what SENSIBLE humans do.

donprinyo:
Without the government, the child is a goner

Water is wet. One can only imagine how many lives have been avoidably lost to this ridiculous folly in Jehovah witnesses.

headTO:
so you are a braindirty sensible. Learn not to talk like a slowpoke when u have problem with people's belief. Can you show me where in the scripture we were commanded to take blood as a form of treatment?

I don't care if your cult manual says you shouldn't save people's lives. THANKFULLY a lot of humans are not part of your brainwashed death cult so we place ACTUAL HUMAN LIVES above what your stupid religious book says or any other book for that matter...

Thank you for confirming the reason why any sane person with conscience will never be part of your religious cult.

And that .. ladies and gentlemen is another reason why I am glad I left religion behind in its entirety.

Authoreety:
Respect people's believe

When it harms no one. Sure. But when it puts innocent people's life at risk -like that of this beautiful little baby- IT WILL BE RESISTED WITH FULL FORCE.

donprinyo:
As far as am concern, de baby does not belong to de parents anymore.

JustCurious:
That child may be ostracized, eventually by the church.... and treated as an infidel.

Yes!!!...so that when the Child comes of age and becomes an adult. He will discover the reason his parents left him and also hated him at such a tender age was because their religion was against him getting a blood transfusion that literally saved his life.

Then SARCASTICALLY the child will be sad that the evil government took him away from his lovely parents who loved him unconditionally and the sympathetic JW religion that would have brought him salvation. Wow!

Oh nice to now find flat earthers on nairaland

How exactly does that prove God or Yahweh, Allah, Odin or Sango if science and all scientists are/were wrong about everything? Would that automatically mean a god created everything?

The awesome fact that Science could even remotely consider the possibility of it being entirely wrong places it miles above your silly religion that becomes hostile when it is questioned.

Science can admit that it is wrong and make corrections.

Religion believes it is always right even in the face of contrasting evidence and becomes hostile instead.

That is the difference between a progressive ideology and that which was meant to retain the status quo in order to control, enslave and divide.

kollected77:
David is a man of God. God did not make a mistake in choosing Him. God forgave the heinous nature of his sin and chastened him severely. That's why this message is timely so that we don't make the same mistake he did and not toy with sexual sin.

Oh so remind me how I am supposed to take orders about "sexual morality" from a god that füčked Joseph's wife without his consent because he wanted to sacrifice himself to himself to save me and you from sexual immorality?

Mmm.. Logic.. maybe you Christians should start using it...

femoint007:


Before You Sleep, Meditate and Pray with this...

“Trust in the LORD with all your heart, And lean not on your own understanding; In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He shall direct your paths.” Proverbs‬ ‭3:5-6‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

Pray this...

Father, as we shall be looking unto You for direction please guide our footsteps each day of year 2020 so that we will not go astray from the direction You have ordained for us in Jesus Name. Amen

Might as well jerk off to Obasanjo's face...prayer is useless.