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mployer:
Sometimes he spoke as the son of man. Other times he spoke as the son of God(God himself).

For example, he was able to forgive sins. And that infuriated the Jews because only God can do that.

Again other prophets usually say 'thus says the Lord...


But Jesus normally say ' I say unto you..

Meaning he is the Lord himself.

really? So what did Jesus mean when he would say the things he says are from the father and he says nothing of his own?

God even gives him commandments.

Yeah, Jesus wasn't a mere prophet, he is the son of God and can rightly be called Divine. Even humans are called gods, how much more the son of the Almighty. Jesus has a central role in the outworking of God's purpose, and has been GIVEN authority including the authority to forgive and judge BY his father (Matt 28: 19). You cannot be given what is already yours.

You guys really need to sit and study the bible. Jesus is not the Almighty for the Almighty is his father and his God. The Bible is clear on that.

Xzbit91:
In those verses, St Paul was simply telling us (christians) to be lovers of one another, doing things in one accord even to the point of humbling ourselves like Christ, who though is God, did not seek equality with the father, but humbled himself by taking on the form of a servant in obedience, even unto death.

Obedience has nothing to do with superiority. I have been sent on errands even by my Juniors, it means nothing, except in situations where it is outrightly disrespectful.

lol. Would one ever seek equality with himself? You guys are funny.

Jesus has the same nature with God, both powerful spirit beings. However the son did not try to seek equality (unlike the devil), instead he humbled himself, suffered as a human and obeyed his father till death, and because of his obedience God elevated him. Where can you possibly elevate the almighty to, if Jesus was Almighty?

Seriously? Obedience has nothing to superiority? Lolz... Anyways so you know, Jesus called his father his God. Unless you trying to say that you are equal with your God, I think this argument is dead on arrival.

Xzbit91:
Philippians:2:5
Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
2:6
Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
2:7
But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
2:8
And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

What point do you think Paul was trying to make in those verses, especially in verse 6? Start from verse 1 and read it slowly.

As you read, ask yourself... if you OBEY someone, is that person your equal or your superior? Would the Almighty ever have to be OBEDIENT to anyone?

destinyy23:
1)This is a mystery, beyond human's comprehension.
2) God doesn't die. He is immortal. Jesus Christ died because he came down from heaven and took the form of man.
PS: This isn't an argument. Blessed are those that haven't seen and yet believe. John 20:29.
Shalom.

It's not a mystery. Jesus Christ taught and showed that he is inferior and subordinate to his father. Anyone teaching otherwise is making Jesus a liar and cannot be his follower.

lol. God doesn't die, He is immortal. Yet Jesus died and he is God.

No wahala. Go your way in peace

destinyy23:
Jesus Christ is God. There are three persons in one God; God the father, God the son who is Christ Jesus and God the Holy Spirit. That is why during the creation of man, God said 'Let US make man in our own image and likeness' Us here refers to the three persons in one God called the Trinity. You can also refer to 1 Cor 8:6 and Isaiah 9:6. Happy Sunday.

I have just two questions right now.

1) Are these 3 persons separate/distinct persons or just manifestations of one person?
2) Can God die?

mployer:
Every of them is immortal.

Jesus had dual personality. He was 100% man and 100% God. Reason he called himself 'Son of man' on some occasions and 'son of God' on other occasions depending on the message he wants to communicate.

The part of him that died is the human nature, the God nature didn't die. The God nature of him is whom we worship today.

lol. So it wasn't Jesus that died but just a part of him?

So you mean you think Jesus himself did not really die for anyone?

Fine...

What do you think? Why is it that when the mother of James and John came to ask that her sons sit at his right and left in the Kingdom (Matt 20: 20 - 24), Jesus told her that it wasn't his decision to make but it has been decided by his father?

Did Jesus lie since (according to you guys) he was his own father? Or was he telling the truth that he is subordinate to the father?

Nice ass.

mployer:
There are persons in one God.
1. God the Father
2. God the son
3. And God the Holy Spirit.


These are three different ways God manifest himself. Each of them is God in full.

God is Spirit, He can manifest in different ways to achieve different objectives.

if one of them dies, has God died?

onyx1470:
then Sir
who is the father. Jesus always talks about that sent Him.

according to trinitarians, it is himself

mployer:
Your canal mind will not understand.

I even wonder how you believe he was raised from dead, as that is scientifically not possible.

if you have something (more meaningful than carnal minds not understanding) to say about the points I raised, say it.

Don't presume to know what I believe. You have no clue.

kumakunta:
And he came to die for the sins only him can forgive .

hehehe... Yes

mployer:
Jesus christ is God himself.

so...

Jesus is his own father.

He sent himself on an errand to earth, and kept saying that the things he says aren't of himself, but that the one who sent him gave him a commandment as to what to say.

He prayed to himself.

He told the mother of James and John that the choosing of those who would sit by his left and right wasn't his to decide, when he was actually the one deciding.

He then asked that his own will (that he dies) not his own will (that the cup pass away from him instead) be done.

He raised himself from the dead.

Well done sah!

Definitely Jesus.

God never spoke from heaven for or to David. He did so 3 different recorded times for Jesus.

livebullet:
I hope they consult catholic theologians... Lest they unwrite and undo the word already established... Same way the JW have misconstrued and misinterpreted John 1:1

Funny enough, the jw translation of that verse, along with a few other translations that simply say the word was divine, make the most sense.

This man is shameless. True politician.

Typical! Many ladies are like this, silently sleeping around, yet they dare to act like promiscuity is a strictly male thing.

gondon:
I bliv d guy for a reason.

A girl called my guy that she was coming for d weekend, he accepted and both of dem had sex that same day..... But she forgot as guys stuff Na he was goona tell me; since she is a side chick..
A day before she left, she called me telling me my guy RAPED her. I got confused and heard from my guy, not until he said both of them had sex and nothing like rape. Meanwhile she claimed that she was a Virgin....

Finally oh after 3weeks, she called my guy to tell him that I tried raping her some days back. And this was someone I have never seen since d day she left my guys house.




So in essence, ladies this days fake Rape stuff........

yeah... Gone are the days when I'd hear rape allegations and immediately think the guy is guilty.

Without proof, I don't even believe the rape tales anymore. Too many liars looking to ruin lives.

Fear girls.

From now on, if you aren't my gf or wife or relative, you have no business coming to my house or getting in my car. Better I'm called sexist than framed up for rape.

sexybbstar:
Heels are not for every ladies

nice ass.

Rubbish! Ladies be using rape allegation as a weapon since Portiphar's wife and Joseph.

This is why it's hard to take a girl's word for it when she says she has been raped. They are mostly crafty creatures, dishonest masters of the victim card.

See tribal bigots masturbating on the thread. With people like these, Nigeria isn't ready to develop. It has to start mentally.

I'm am surprised some people are defending child labour on this thread. Shame on you and the Libyans! Eldee is right. You do not have to be in chains to be a slave.

Bicycle - two wheels.

How's this a bicycle?

Lol. See the way babes rushed out to objectify themselves. Yet tomorrow they would accuse the male folk of objectifying them, when we simply sit back and enjoy the view.

What is 'secretly'? How is her marriage your business that she has to tell you about it?

She doesn't need a divorce. She needs a job.

Everyone has an opinion, and they usually think it is a FACT.

"...the people rejoices."

Can't believe he used a singular verb for a plural noun. He isn't even serious about this stuff.

What if it wasn't suicide?

Arrest him ASAP! He's talking from experience.