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13volts:
The normal trash from Nigeria newspapers.
I was expecting the SUN to be doing these publication na their work.
our source comfimed from another source who quoted another source that said an unconfirmed and unnamed governor blah blah blah

Yes, the report doesn't provide names which is shameful, but it has been carried by more than one newspaper. That makes it more believable.

[quote author=Mr. Globe link=topic=845535.msg9962169#msg9962169 date=1326540233]Pengassen don't mind the stup!d militants. They got no balls. Nobody is afraid of militants. Nobody. All the people here are making noise. Amnesty is there for them. The oil facilities must be SHUT DOWN[/quote]

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toba:
You know the answer?
its simple cos no one has ever attempted to fool Nigerians has GEJ has done so far.

There was no Boko Haram and Obj didnt attempt to remove subsidy at once as GEJ erroneous did.

He's even adamant, hence he has to be caught where it matters to him most

That is not true. In the first place GEJ has not attempted to fool anybody, it is just people using ethnic bigotry against him and pretending not to have heard all the explanations, pleas for to be allowed to to get cracking. Some politicians were determined to incite their people with loads of lies (eg 1blillion food money), which they did successfully and even now, their people are still raging for a fight that has been lost.

Nobody ever tried to shut down the oil wells in the past, because it would be tantamount to a declaration of war or a coup, And I am quite convinced that is what will happen if there is even a partial shut down. It doesn't pay to play with fire.

Wily1Wily:
Please can anyone help with the address of Pengassan officials

Give you of all people?! Bruv, you know say you too de vex na!

goggs:
this report must be the most baseless report in years. for one Fashola is not an employee of the Federal Government, second is that he doesn't control the police to do anything about the protest. three he is from the opposition so any attempt to query him his party will just release the details to the public and its popularity will just soar. ACN and Tinubu will not let that juicy opportunity pass.

Governor Babagida Muazu tried to prevent rallies see the destruction that happened in Minna, that sleepy and docile city. imagine what lags will be.

its a farce

He was queried by his ultimate boss. Live with it or declare independence.

The very same souls were here yesterday, screaming that Fashola could not be summoned.
Abeg, be ready to resume work, cos it looks like it might not be so easy from now.

Poor oyb. How is it possible for a human to be so resoundingly stup!d? . . .And get stup!der by the day? Mystery!

People should wonder why there were really no protests outside of a few NLC officials in the ND and SE.
They should also wonder why there is now an pro-subsidy removal "occupy" protest right now in Port Harcourt that will end only after the protests in Lagos have ended.

It is wrong to launch foul, ethnically driven attacks on the govt.

Your coup failed woefully.

Tell NLC that there is nothing wrong with shutting down the oil wells, its just that boyz don occupy and the process is now froth with danger. Devil sef de fear area.

Ask the NLC why in all their previous strikes, they never sought to close the oil wells. Ask them why they did not tell so many lies in the past. Lol!
Ask Gbawe, he claimed that the "owners of Nigeria" were ready to take back their property. They gonna drive GEJ out, there was gonna be a coup, GEJ was gonna be killed. . . Blah, blah!

You attempted a coup and it has failed.

Poor Rhino.5dm the hot liar! Bringing entertainment to the masses this early morning!!
E be like say, bobo was mercilessly drinking burukutu overnight till eyes come de red. This can only be the effect of irresponsibly harrassing alcohol!

Drammatic video, but much braver people were up close to the police.

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Well illustrated.

ziga:
These things happen not because we do not have laws. But because the people who should prevent the chaos have been corrupted. Chaos and corruption go hand in hand, however, you need to remove the corruption to cure the chaos. And not the other way round.

Let our laws be enforced, and not pushed aside by exchange of ghana must go bags and we will get rid of the chaos.

I do not agree that you need to remove corruption to heal the chaos. The reason why there are no laws, or existing laws are openly flouted by the majority is that nobody feels they belong or have a stake in Nigeria. If we all had a stake, we would rise and fight anybody attempting to destroy the system; that is what happens abroad, in countries where there is order.

It is impossible to imagine a policeman openly demanding a bribe on a New York street. The people would rise against that event.
In Nigeria, we stopped fighting during the military regimes, because it was an ill-advised cause of action that would have reaped a few slaps and murderously aimed kicks at best. We can only learn that there once used to be food inspectors in our markets from our parents and grand parents, these things ended during the military times.
It is the trauma of military rule, witnessing parents being frog-jumped in public, being demeaned and slapped into line on a daily basis that has led to the present grind where we couldn't care less and a big man can slap a poor man in the street as easily as he could say "good morning."

Chaos has torn up our social fabric; it is the lack of belonging that results that causes people to kill, steal, rap'e and pillage; because the mantra in any chaotic environment is, every man for himself.

The way we can heal society is by creating a new contract of what it means to be Nigerian, what is expected of a Nigerian and what the country owes to every Nigerin, rich, poor, young, old, female and male.

norrisman:
@ Beaf

I agree with what you have posted and it makes a lot of sense but do you know why most people will not agree with you? Because you usually defend the indefensible. I understand you have a job selling the ideas of your boss to Nigerians but there are sometimes when you have to take a step back and objectively analyse situations and view it from the eyes of the ordianry man.

The fact that I support GEJ does not mean I work for him, those who scream that do so because I am much smarter than them and they can only "win" an argument by playing dirty.
I will continue to hold any views I am convinced off so far as they are correct, regardless of what anyone on the other side of the political divide thinks.

Telling disgusting lies to swamp an opponent is all part of the chaos in Nigeria.

What do we even need the House of Representatives for?
They don't represent us in any way, all they do is sit down, crack jokes and take home fat wages.

[quote author=Rhino.5dm link=topic=845650.msg9960702#msg9960702 date=1326522005]Just got a call from a freind(High ranking member) that OPC is secretly planning to attack any non-south westner residing in south west. This was against the back drop of threats issued by Boko Haram and Mossob. I think things is about to get uglier.

He said those Nigeria bound weapons intercepted in Ghana was the last "goods" they are expecting to to complete 17000 armed mercenaries willing to engage any defaulter. I just need to pass it round cos i detest unnessary blood shed. I just hope'd he is not a Nairalander, cos he warned me about going public with the news.

Source:
Reliable Phone Calls.[/quote]Ol' boy, sofri na!

Rhino.5dm and his lies again! Here's a catalog:

He saved Italy from flooding.
He is a computer graphics guru.
Knows how to drill crude oil.
Is an aged ex-soldier.
Is a young man.
Knows boko haram inside out.

. . .But this takes the cookey!

[quote author=Rhino.5dm]. . .and the so much touted road projects in Akwa Ibom is my credit. As i was the one that sold the idea to Akpabio victor to invite Julius Berger, based on what i saw Ma'azu achieved with them in Bauchi.
In 2007 before flagging off his campaign, i advised him. You know what, Ikot Ekpene-Abak road was the first road they built in Akwa Ibom and i was the one that said so, cos that road leads to the governor's house. I told them to dualized it.[/quote]https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-799736.32.html

Okon!

Akpabio come o! Julius Berger! OPC! Agbum!
This early morning, anoda lie again!

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Logic Mind:
Which news from where?

Check here: http://www.tribune.com.ng/sat/index.php/front-page-articles/6365-boko-haram-gov-northern-politicians-panic-over-possible-arrest.html
We just need to find out which state has a missing governor.

There is an NL thread on the matter here:
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-845540.0.html

We should be checking for the Northern state that has a missing governor, I can't tell why the press is too scared to mention his name.

There is news tonight that boko haram leaders are fleeing the country, including a governor. So, hopefully the news is a mere diversion to help them get away.

Kobojunkie:
December 23rd, President go on live TV announce say Refineries are working about above 90% Capacity already. Days later, the newspapers come carry am say that Minister of Petroleum switch come dey announce say na in 24months time. Fast forward to about 2 weeks into the new year, we don dey hear now say na by November our refineries go reach full capacity. Abeg, who we go belief ??

Live TV in Columbus Canada?!

I couldn't care less about any governors immunity. GEJ must declare a state of emergency in the affected state and arrest the phucker.
Enough is enough from these people.

[size=14pt]Boko Haram: Gov, Northern Politicians Panic Over Possible Arrest [/size]
Written by Taiwo Adisa, Abuja Saturday, 14 January 2012

A serving governor and some top Northern politicians are now living under the fear of arrest as security operatives close in on suspected sponsors of Boko Haram. Saturday Tribune gathered that the reports of security agencies consistently linked some prominent figures to the activities of the dreaded group, which had claimed responsibility for a number of bombings in the country lately.

Sources said President Goodluck Jonathan had given a nod for the said leaders to be interrogated, while a security council had been set up to quiz the governor.

It was learnt that upon hints that the agencies had received the green light to prosecute the suspected sponsors of Boko Haram, many of the top politicians are making plans to flee the country, even in the heat of the fuel subsidy removal-induced strike.

The government was also said to be probing some suspicious movements across the Nigerian borders in the North with information indicating that some specific targets of the operation burst Boko Haram had fled the country.

A source said the governor, believed to have links with the group, had got wind of his impending interrogation by operatives, but that the government was being careful not to tamper with his immunity as provided in the 1999 Constitution.

“As a result of the immunity he enjoys, he cannot be directly arrested. But all the details are being assembled and a security committee has been constituted to confront him with such details. Once the evidence is confirmed as incontrovertible, further steps can then be taken to ensure prosecution in line with treason and such charges,” the source said.

It was learnt that the governor had fled to Niger Republic and that some other suspected top politicians are either on their way to Niger or Chad republic.

“The government has decided to bring sanity to this whole issue of insecurity. Some security agencies, who have been on the trail of those concerned in recent times, have reports indicting a number of persons, including government officials.

Other prominent figures, who are linked with the group, are believed to be heading towards Northern borders,” another source said.

It was also gathered that the acclaimed leader of the sect, Abubakar Skekau, had fled the country to Niger, following intense moves to burst him in recent weeks.

It was understood that his outbursts during the week on a cable television, were made from a hideout from that country.

The source stated, “There is an operation aimed at clamping down on the Boko Haram leadership. Security operatives almost burst the leader, Abubakar Shekau and he immediately fled Nigeria. He is believed to be in Niger Republic now where he is coordinating activities of the group. The operatives will not relent in their bid to track him down.”

http://www.tribune.com.ng/sat/index.php/front-page-articles/6365-boko-haram-gov-northern-politicians-panic-over-possible-arrest.html

sheyguy:
Beaf, i still find your argument lacking. 9ja markets might look rough but that is nothing close to chaos, our markets r like that largely because of its spacing. The transaction r still the same.
As for standard inspection and certification lacking in our system, it is corruption. If some had not triggered the chain of corruption which eventually gives rise to chaos by doing the wrong thing, there would be no chaos.

Our markets are like that because, anything goes in Nigeria; the markets are surely not so out of corruption, rather it is through chaos.
And anything goes in Nigeria, because we are chaotic.
The fact that you do no see anything wrong in the situation of the markets only puts clothes on my argument. The average Nigerian cannot see that life could be better organised and existence more humane. Just as our markets where we obtain food to sustain our souls are like a cesspit, so it is that there are sights one would never behold in other countries (see attached pic).

The country lacks a foundational framework of existence. So, its like a huge unweildy building, balancing on thin legs, and each time the wind blows we have to add new legs in the direction of the current wind; when the direction changes, the building begins to tip the other way and we have to find bricks or mud to shore it up. Its a never ending cycle of patching leaks, propping up, repainting, rewiring etc, all depending on whichever way the wind blows, cos there is no durable foundation.

You wouldn't find this sort of picture in an ordered society. This is not corruption, it is chaos:

Its to be expected, even though illegal.
They are treading on very fearful ground.

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Dude, get off my thread or go and drink burukutu. You are now angry, cos I pointed you out as a chameleon, changing colours and stories.
The protest was an irresponsible waste of lives, because pretenders like you fired people up on the road to nowhere. Today, you are here with some mirage story about how an aimless protest is suddenly about something else.

Anything that is not grounded in enduring philosophies is phucked from the start. The only solution to Nigeria's myriad problems is the removal of chaos and the institution of a fair framework of existence. I thank GEJ for removing the subsidy and exposing the underside of the suicidally entropic soup called Nigeria.

sweet9ja:
Enough of this north bashing, yes, the north's contribution to our GDP is low, what are rest contributing?
I am from the south and I know many states in the south that are just as parasitic as the north. These southern states are equally not really comfortable with any form of reform and restructuring.
In the last failed national conference, only SE and SS supported resourse control. I remember the west was adamantly against the idea, someone from that region was even reported to have said that it will turn a part the country to Dubai or Singapore, while the rest remain poor and underdeveloped.
Two states from the west also joined with the north and FGN to sue the oil producing state over ownership of ofshore oilfields, a case championed by the then AGF Bola Ige. They prayed the supreme court to give ownership of the offshore fields to FGN.

Don't mind them. It is easy to take the cowards route and bash Northerners, but if you ask most people the job their governors and LG chairmen do, they will stare at you as if you popped in from Mars. Most Southerners think that the only govt in Nigeria is the FG, and that it is perfectly ok for their states and LG's to generate fuckall.

All I can say is, thank God the subsidy was removed. Now we can begin to see clearly without blinkered eyes.

We need true federalism, resource control, abrogation of the land use decree, passing of the PIB and a National Conference.

naijababe:
You've given me an answer like a politician would. If I were to go by your post, the reason corruption is almost non existent is because there's a framework of existence as you called it, right? Now tell me why this framework did not stop the British MPs from defrauding the electorate via the expenses scandal?

What makes me Nigerian? Is that meant to be bait?

Again, I ask what is our C-I-C doing true federalism

The bolded is what I wish to take from what you have written above, because the answer would fill in every gap in our understanding about why Nigeria is corrupt and the UK you have given as an example is comparatively not.

What makes you a Nigerian? The answer is important.

[quote author=ndu_chucks link=topic=845380.msg9959480#msg9959480 date=1326494372]Stop being delusional and face realities. The kind of discussions you are talking about will only take place if GEJ leads the effort to actualize them.  The alternative is for we, the people, to force the discussions one way or the other.  Nigerians have started the process with recent protests, but people like you have rejected us and have not supported our actions. On the other hand, you don't believe the President should be the person to set the stage for the said discussions.

So I ask you Beaf, how will these discussions start? Don't give us some academic crap, tell us your ideas as to how to initiate a National Conference in a practical manner, under the current dispensation.[/quote]Ndu chucks, forget about the funny politics you are playing, cos you were rooting very loudly that GEJ should not back down obn the subsidy removal, suddenly you have changed like Tunde Bakare! lol!

Anyways, the bolded answers your question. If the people had gone out protesting against solid wrongs, instead of progressive policies like the fuel subsidy removal, then the protests would have made sense and would have reaped huge success. Right now, NLC is winding things down, cos they are not interested in battling the system which they are part of. NLC does not even need the people to fight corruption, cos they control the civil service, so who is fooling who? Who has been fooled, except thoose who rode their bandwagon to nowhere?

Today, you are asking for a National Conference (just as you called for the subsidy removal) whereas, in the past, you have doggedly fought against it each time we brought it up. Why are you being a chameleon?

It is only right, that now that we have Nigerians interested in making the country work that such energy be fed the truth, which is that Nigeria's true problem is chaos. And that chaos stems from the lack of a defining framework of who or what a Nigerian is; what Nigeria itself is and what binds its citizens to it. You can summarise the problem as the question about if Nigeria is just a phucking piece of alien land on which you and I happen to find our villages, or if there is more to it.

I have reported dplordx with the "Report to moderator" button, but for whatever reason, nothing has happened.
The same happened with a poster called Eros.

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Empty as usual.
Ok, run along. More intelligent folk are out there.

People are unhappy now because of the increase in fuel price, that is understandable. But we must realise that the refineries would have been sabotaged without the removal of the subsidy; that policy has its golden plusses and we will soon forget our dismay.

Its nice that even the first PH refinery that was abandoned and decripit is being brought back to life. Nigeria has only counted 3 refineries (PH, Warri and Kaduna), so its nice that we can now count 4.
Lets hope the Kaduna one can be repaired too (I sincerely doubt it can).

As for the 3 refineries, work will conclude in 3 years, by which time we will be a net exporter of refined products.

Fresh Air!!!

[quote author=ndu_chucks link=topic=845380.msg9959365#msg9959365 date=1326492889]When are you going to admit that your uncle, GEJ, will not lead this discussion of your dreams? When will it dawn on you that GEJ is the leader of PDP?[/quote]Stop being funny. I am telling you what is proper for us to go out and demand, I am sure you need leaders of your local community to bring their own idea's forward so that we can collectively "expound enduring principles, rights and requirements of Nigerianness?" No?
If you are waiting for GEJ to come clean your arse, then you have a long wait indeed; even if he wants to, there are 167million people in the country. Lazy fart.