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Isn't it time we had a thorough discussion on the way forward?

wowo2:
wetin concern GEJ?
As long as the west cook up figures and lie to GEJ that Nigeria is doing well for their own ulterior motives, he is a happy man. Even if the coup is taking place in his boy quarters he will still think everything is FINE,

Stop being ignorant. Its pathetic, Nigeria has been holding the ECOWAS Presidency for about two years now; it is the ECOWAS Presidents duty to hurl out such warnings.

[quote author=Rhino.5dm link=topic=833495.msg9854582#msg9854582 date=1325144045]Brouhahaha.
You are a dolt! Most guys on that thread are well, objective straight headed guys. If you like place a spin on their integrity, afterall thats what you are paid to do here.[/quote]To your fellow boko harams, "objective straight guys" are those they can trust to blow up babies or chop their mothers in two.
You are despicable filth that enjoys the death of Nigerians, or what other description suits someone who describes Ustaz Yusuf as "one cool guy?"

I believe boko haram has pushed too far. The repercussions are going to be ugly, its really hard to see a way back from the brink.

Lol! Boko haram luv'n cretin!

[quote author=Rhino.5dm link=topic=833495.msg9854488#msg9854488 date=1325142299]You are pathetic arrz licking goat. I got more than 95% approval ratings on that thread, except for you. I indulge all those that want to learn about Boko Haram from a well researched, objective and first hand information to visit that thread.

Funny, most of recommentdations on that threads are priceless and timeless. I was delighted when i saw alot of well learned people towing my line.


You wished am like you, a PDP paid blood sucking reetarded dolt, that will place a spin on issues concerning lives of innocent citizens and their properties. I pity your life, children and generation to come.

How dare speak of integrity? Thesame thief that was begging El-rufai for rentals, only to now acquire 300 million naira worth of Mansion at Asokoro? Just stick to lies and the consumption of your conscience. Pathetic[/quote]What sort of rating would you expect to get from church bombers, baby killers, murderers, rap!sts of decency and brainless baboons similar to yourself?
Phucking boko haram.

[quote author=Rhino.5dm]And thier reasons??. . . Illegal clamping, jailing and continue detention of their members without any recourse to justice, ordered by the state government. This was done purposely to satisfy “other” high ranking Islamic scholars in the state (pseudo-political scholars) with different ideology and doctrine. Before this, there was the incident of refusal of allowing them to continue practicing their faith in the state.
[size=14pt]The slain leader of Boko Haram was a cool guy (No pun intended), which can be invited to ANY discussion without any hesitant or refusal. From my personal study and understanding the motive of the group, I won’t be far from the truth if I say the group came out to protest against the long failure of northern political oligarchy,[/size] which has violated every opportunity to transform and educate their masses. [size=14pt]I have listen and watched Yusuf (slain Boko Haram) leader defending his ideology, which I think to some extent is mainly trying to create awareness to the crime of the politicians.[/size][/quote]https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-762548.0.html

What a funny thread! Its like something that staggered straight out of cuckoo land.

[quote author=Rhino.5dm]And thier reasons??. . . Illegal clamping, jailing and continue detention of their members without any recourse to justice, ordered by the state government.  This was done purposely to satisfy “other” high ranking Islamic scholars in the state (pseudo-political scholars) with different ideology and doctrine. Before this, there was the incident of refusal of allowing them to continue practicing their faith in the state.
[size=14pt]The slain leader of Boko Haram was a cool guy (No pun intended), which can be invited to ANY discussion without any hesitant or refusal. From my personal study and understanding the motive of the group, I won’t be far from the truth if I say the group came out to protest against the long failure of northern political oligarchy,[/size] which has violated every opportunity to transform and educate their masses. [size=14pt]I have listen and watched Yusuf (slain Boko Haram) leader defending his ideology, which I think to some extent is mainly trying to create awareness to the crime of the politicians.[/size][/quote]https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-762548.0.html

If it acts like a bastar'd, it is a bastar'd. If it talks like boko haram, it is boko haram.
A mans pet is expected to defend him.
Fool.

Crap.

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Lol! oyb missed his calling as an almajiri.

[quote author=Rhino.5dm link=topic=833495.msg9854365#msg9854365 date=1325140300]Do me a favour and answer this simple posers,

1.  what was your intents when you start this thread?

2. Why do you think dragging Buhari into this mess will help your cause or revisiting and sentimentally revising his gallant objective efforts in putting stop to the menace of Maitatsine?

I wouldn't have even bothered posting on this thread, not for the fact that you intentionally wanted to create a sympathy for GEJ, by shiiiting on our most revered politician.

BTW, your master GEJ backed a Phd in zoo-logy, so we all know who is fit for cage.[/quote]I pity you.
Are you not the foremost supporter of boko haram on NL? Much is not expected of scum like you, aside praising boko haram and its sponsors. These are your words:

[quote author=Rhino.5dm]And thier reasons??. . . Illegal clamping, jailing and continue detention of their members without any recourse to justice, ordered by the state government.  This was done purposely to satisfy “other” high ranking Islamic scholars in the state (pseudo-political scholars) with different ideology and doctrine. Before this, there was the incident of refusal of allowing them to continue practicing their faith in the state.
[size=14pt]The slain leader of Boko Haram was a cool guy (No pun intended), which can be invited to ANY discussion without any hesitant or refusal. From my personal study and understanding the motive of the group, I won’t be far from the truth if I say the group came out to protest against the long failure of northern political oligarchy,[/size] which has violated every opportunity to transform and educate their masses. [size=14pt]I have listen and watched Yusuf (slain Boko Haram) leader defending his ideology, which I think to some extent is mainly trying to create awareness to the crime of the politicians.[/size][/quote]https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-762548.0.html

You are a fool.
Boko haram.

Thomas Edison didn't fail, but oyb is a failure.

Lol!

Another meaningless topic, born out of hatred. In a few days from now, it will be oyb going, "bump", "bump" like a crazed camel, because nobody else shares his venomous hatred.

[size=14pt]Fears of a Boko Haram instigated sectarian war deepen after Islamic school attack[/size]
December 29, 2011

Onlookers view the charred remains of a vehicle following an attack at St Theresa Church in Madalla district on 25 December.

A Boko Haram instigated sectarian war seems likely after an attack at an Islamic school

Fears of a sectarian war are becoming a reality in Nigeria following a bomb blast at an Islamic school in Sapele, located in southern Delta state. At least seven people were injured in the attack and no claims of responsibility have been made at this stage.

The latest incident has contributed to already existing fears in Nigeria that a sectarian war is almost inevitable.

Boko Haram is an Islamic sect that has its roots in northern Nigeria, a largely Muslim part of the country and the group has been vociferous in its opposition to the Federal government estbalishment. To find Boko Haram’s rather broad objective is to translate its name from the Arabic phrase (jama’atu ahlis sunna lidda’awati wal-jihad) which simply means “Western education is a sin” and when localised to the local Hausa language, takes the form of “Boko Haram”.

Boko Haram began as a loosely connected group comprising mostly self-radicalised extremists who sought the strict implantation of Sharia Law across the Nigeria, this goal has not changed but the group’s capability of coordinating attacks across the country has.

In the past most of the group’s attacks involved the use of rudimentary homemade bombs and Molotov cocktails (petrol bombs). Recently however, the group has started to use locally produced but potent explosives as evidenced by an attack on the UN Building on 26 August which resulted in the deaths of as many as 23 people. The group has also started using suicide bombers, a possible contagion effect from the Taliban and Haqqani Network in Afghanistan.

The police and the whole security apparatus have been found inadequate at dealing with the terrorist threat posed by Boko Haram. The Joint Task Force (JTF) which has been deployed to areas susceptible to Boko Haram activity such as Maiduguri and Jos has been unable to halt the violence. Instead, in the presence of security forces Boko Haram has developed more sophisticated attacks that have dealt a huge casualties to both ordinary citizens and the security forces.

The inadequacy of the Nigerian government has not only been in keeping Boko Haram in check, at least from a security perspective. But there have been investigative and procedural missteps by the authorities. Very few Boko Haram suspects are ever apprehended and even after four days (at the time of writing this article) no arrests have been made since the deadly church bombings in Madalla district, 40km west of the capital, Abuja on 25 December.

This is compounded by allegations that several high ranking state officials are either supporting or providing financial backing to Boko Haram. A man purported to be a Boko Haram spokeperson, Ali Sanda Umar Konduga, stated on 3 November that politicians, particularly those from the ruling People’s Democratic Party (PDP) had a hand in facilitating the groups’ activity.

In the absence of an adequate security response and the perceived cosy relationship between prominent politicians and Boko Haram, the rest of Nigeria, especially its Christian population which predominantly lives in the country’s south has been left to its own devices. On 28 December the Christian Association of Nigeria stated that Boko Haram had declared war with its recent violence thereby leaving them with “no other option” but to defend themselves. The assumption then follows that the latest attack on the Islamic school in Sapele and a previous attack on 10 December are part of the Christian offensive.

It is in this environment that sectarian violence or all-out war finds commonplace. One hopes that the federal government is able to quell this impending unrest before it is too late. If not, Nigeria will possibly be ripe for the long mentioned subdivision of the country in two seperate states.

- Political Analysis South Africa

http://www.politicalanalysis.co.za/2011/12/29/fears-of-a-boko-haram-instigated-sectarian-war-deepen-after-islamic-school-attack/

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We cannot predict the future, so I will not speculate on a budget that has not even been passed.

As for how nations without oil are surviving, it is by organisation. Without chaos, the sky is the limit, now here is an article I wrote for a thread I created some time ago, it should get any Nigerians blood boiling:

Beaf: [size=14pt]We have work to do - Cities with higher GDP than Nigeria[/size]

Nigeria: GDP (PPP) 2009 estimate $341.572 billion
http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/weo/2010/01/weodata/weorept.aspx?sy=2007&ey=2010&scsm=1&ssd=1&sort=country&ds=.&br=1&c=694&s=NGDPD%2CNGDPDPC%2CPPPGDP%2CPPPPC%2CLP&grp=0&a=&pr.x=38&pr.y=14

[table]
[tr][td]Tokyo[/td][td] Japan[/td][td] $ 1479[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]New York City[/td][td] United States[/td][td] $ 1406[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Los Angeles[/td][td] United States[/td][td] $ 792[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Chicago[/td][td] United States[/td][td] $ 574[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]London[/td][td] United Kingdom[/td][td] $ 565[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Paris[/td][td] France[/td][td] $ 564[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Osaka[/td][td] Japan[/td][td] $ 417[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Mexico City[/td][td] Mexico[/td][td] $ 390[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Philadelphia[/td][td] United States[/td][td] $ 388[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]São Paulo[/td][td] Brazil[/td][td] $ 388[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Washington D.C.[/td][td] United States[/td][td] $ 375[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Boston[/td][td] United States[/td][td] $ 363[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Buenos Aires[/td][td] Argentina[/td][td] $ 362[/td][/tr]
[/table]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_by_GDP (quoting PricewaterhouseCoopers)

Clearly oil is not everything, we have a lot of work to do in all facets of our economy, to raise our GDP to an acceptable level.
While Nigeria is ranked number 32 in the World by size of GDP(PPP), the true figure is revealed when our population is factored in; we hover around number 140 out of about 180. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita

There are various sectors of the Nigerian economy that are begging to be tapped and the country would literarily explode financially. But certain aspects of our foundation first need to be addressed; nothing can be built on shaky ground.
In order to unleash our wealth creating potential, it would be necessary to educate the populace in several ways. There would be the normal school education, except that like happens in all progressive ecomies, it must be heavily skewed towards practical’s and field experience.
The other half of citizen education (and by far the most important), would be a solid  grounding in the country’s ideology (more on that later). Citizens need to have a common focus to be able to act in unison to achieve the common goals needed to haul the country up the developmental ladder.

Nigerian's are bound together by unnatural strings that have failed to keep our society from fracturing along ethnic, regional and religious lines; talk less of the population acting in unity.

No country can succeed or even function without a national ideology, currently we flounder in every direction and at every task, and that is because we lack the unity of purpose a shared ideology can forge. We do not even have a simple motto or phrase around which Nigerians can feel empowered and energised.
Ideology gives root to productive defined structures and feeds them to produce society that is always optimally productive. It creates the harmony that can drive a diverse people to act as one and achieve mighty things. Therefore, it goes without saying that Nigeria must discard her current chaotic structure, which is at the root of all of our problems, from corruption to tribalism.
We must instead, strive for a structure  that is ideologically driven, one that is egalitarian and inspires confidence in the young and old.  The new structure, optimised for our multi-ethnicity, would guarantee a sense of belonging and duty in every citizen. The new structure would need to be a deeply thought out form of true federalism.

With true federalism, a massively populated country like Nigeria would always put the right foot first and develop at a pace that would be the envy of other nations. True federalism is the job we need to complete. Can we do it?

A don talk finish, over to una. 

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-500596.0.html

[quote author=Negro_Ntns link=topic=833495.msg9853852#msg9853852 date=1325124682]Your intellectual argument is getting weak and needs to be shored up with ridicule, poking fun, luaghter and name calling, again, having fun over something serious and meaningful. You cannot ridicule me, Beaf. . . drop it!

Your sources are inaccurate in the information they shared with you?

We have problem on the ground in Nigeria and you are going to writers in London and America for answers. This is not a football match analysis. . . . we are seeing people blown to pieces on the land and you believe a thesis account in University of London is the answer we have been waitibng for. You are right at home being on the payroll of GEJ, clueless team of political newbies.[/quote]Dude, you called yourself names and brought ridicule on yourself by telling lies. Why did you lie?

I'm still asking you to tell us when and where elections where held in the month maitatsine died? What election held when Buhari was head of state as you implied?
If you cannot tell us, just sit in one corner and mop your tears, so "family members from Kano" can give their usual dangerous "first hand accounts."

You go take laf kill animal o!

Anyways, lets not forget that the title of this thread is: "Lies, Lies, Lies About Buhari And The 5 Years Of Maitatsine." Nutin spoil!

ib55:
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I totally agree with you that its a circus, but what is Mr Presido doing about it? Nothing, you said once he cuts off the major source of funding corruption the problem will die off. But let me remind of one thing, what of the oil wells/crude lifting allocations. We also have the issue of political appointments and contracts, which also breeds corruption.

In my opinion its the politicizing of everything government, breeds corruption.I am not saying this started today, it has been a long practice by all governments we have had since independence.

Let me ask you this. We have a budget of almost 1 trillion Naira going to security in 2012. The minister of defense  is a former acting chairman of PDP and he was also implicated in the Siemens bribery scandal. Tell me, have they not found another way of getting the funds? If you close one door they will find another one.
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The bolded says that you have misunderstood me. I don't mean that cutting off the source of funds will cause corruption to dry up. Rather, removing the chaos in the oil sector and replacing it with standards will clear corruption away. I will give an analogy why this approach is best:

Say a man who means well finds himself at the head of a market that trades in diamonds. It is a good, only that the market is meant to be selling the diamonds on behalf of a village, but the market is totally lawless and chaotic, the traders are all thieves who take advantage of the chaos to sell the diamonds for themselves.

The man ponders what to do to help the people and comes to two choices.

The first is to lock up every corrupt trader; he reasons that locking away a few bigshots will shake the rest into line. But the police, judiciary and even the common people are all in hawk to the traders, even his trusted lieutenants are in hawk to the corrupt traders, all because there is no law due to chaos. So who does he turn to? How can that plan succeed without him being harmed or even killed? And what will it benefit the people he plans to help if he is harmed or killed?

The second idea the man has, is to decree orderly processes and standards for trading, he can do this because he has the executive power and does not need to rely on anyone else to achieve his goals. He reasons that the corrupt traders will resign the trade when instead of free-for-all bribery org!es, people who are attuned to working in disciplined, ordered environments with strict standards come on board and performance begins to be rewarded by market forces. Again, the police, judiciary etc are in hawk to the traders, but this time he doesn't need their help; instead, he knows that redemption will come to these institutions when the corrupting money from the traders dries up and he can pick off the corrupt officials without much fightback.

Replace the traders with politicians and the diamonds with oil. I hope you see what I am driving at?
Removing chaos from the system and replacing it with strict due process will gradually rid the country off corruption, or even if corruption remains, it would cease to be a hindrance to our development (Italy with its mafia, is standing attestation to this).
The most visible place to remove chaos is the petroleum industry, because it provides close to 100% of our disposable revenue. The next target after the oil industry should be to attain true federalism; that will provide yet another set of rules to wittle down the chaotic mess we swim in (but dat one na anoda tori).

Now that Buhari's case has been thrown in the trash can, if he is found to have been involved in any violence, it would be right to pick him up.
Now that he has been given due hearing and is a spent force, nobody can sanely claim that he is above the law or that he is being hounded for political reasons.

See comedy!
As for me, I quote sources and post links. The challenge is open to anybody to tackle the sources of the quotes I have made.

But please, please, please, let us avoid stories from akara sellers or "first hand accounts from family members in Kano."

[quote author=Negro_Ntns link=topic=833495.msg9853756#msg9853756 date=1325120927]As you are aware by now, I hardly if ever post links or sources, simply for the reason of the madness you just exhibited. I prefer to give keyword and let everyone do their own search for whatever their truth is.

So Rhino is correct and I was wrong. . . I threw pearls to the pig!!


You hardly have thorough political knowledge to understand the totality of what is occuring in this nation at this time. If asked to give an independent evaluation and define the root cause of the problem you will not be able to but your report will be filled merry-go-round grammar that lead no where. Yet, here you are trying to assume authoritative knowledge for why Boko Haram became what it is. You think because your tribe man is in presidency makes you an authority on political debate.

Yes, you are right. . . . this topic is a great fun and you should enjoy yourself in it. I do not go into granular examination of words and terms with political newbies like you. Invite those who taught you politics to come and continue this discussion with Negro. You hear me?[/quote]The bolded really made me laugh!!!
You were caught lying. You don't post proof, because you lie.

You don't post links because of Beaf? Na wa o!!! You mean your integrity is lacking because of Beaf? Are you smoking sontin?
Laf go broke pikin back o!

https://i.imgur.com/UPBvj.gif

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Ok, my bad on that.

[quote author=Negro_Ntns link=topic=833495.msg9853672#msg9853672 date=1325118624]Beaf, you are the one having fun, not me. . . . You are insinuating with your post that Buhari is culpable in the transformation from Maitatsine to Boko. What I posted is not hearsay, my family lived in Kano at the time, I gave you a first hand account. Its relevance is to clear your falsehood.[/quote]For the bolded, there is no need for you to be dishonest. It is childish.

Secondly, I quoted from several sources to back up my words, but you posted a very lengthy essay that makes no sense. You even compressed the maitatsine episode into a single month , despite writing stuff about Shagari's regime and extending that into Buhari's. Would this be because your family members gave you "first hand account" or would it be because you did a copy and paste from different sources without the slightest understanding of what you were doing?

You amaze me. Please tell the house which of my quoted sources is wrong and why. If you cannot, then do the respectful and stop posting hearsay, we are adults.

[quote author=Negro_Ntns]Anyway, this went on for over a month and the authorities played political games trying to score points to influence the electorates for upcoming elections.  They thought about bombing them from the air. . . dropping explosives into the compound from the air.  An air force jet would not match the desired precision but a helicopter could do it but then judging by the amount of arsenal and the grade of ammo they were using, it was best not to underestimate their ability to shhot down the hovering chopper, so the aerial bombardment idea was dropped.  At last the Army was deployed with tanks.  In the battle, even couple of soldiers lost their lives and had to retreat and reinforce.  They brought in an all terrain apc, the type that flattens anything and everything it steps on.  They came in from three directions. . . . before they made it to the compound courier already delivered news of their approach.  Maitatsine himself abandoned the coompound. . . there was a drainage canal that ran for miles behind his compund through the city.  He dropped into the canal.  A soldier spotted him and fired hitting his thigh or leg. . . . but then another soldier spotted him and gave chase to break the distance and attemnpt to capture him alive.  The two soon lost sight of him.  In their separate accounts given later, they said Maitatsine had to be using some supernatural power in his flight along the canal, he was not running at the pace of a sprinter but almost triple the speed and for a man mortally wounded in the leg it was beyond logic to explain how he made it that fast and covered that much distance as he did in such a little time.  They foillowed the blood trail and is how they found him already slumped dead.   

A search of the compound revealed two deep wells, no water but filled to the top with severed human heads.  Some were fresh. . . just slaughtered that morning.  These were the people that had dissapeared and not found. . . . the ones that went in but never came back out,    The number in the wells alone was over 1000, not counting numerous people killed on the streets over a month period.  It was revealed that he was using human blood for supernatural powers for himself and for other pwople who came to seek his help to get rich, or get women or power. .[/quote]Aside from the bloody comical stuff (eg "an all terrain apc, the type that flattens anything and everything it steps on"), I bolded just a couple of contradictions in the crazy writeup above.
Would you be kind enough to reveal what elections were about to be held in the month maitatsine died? Whould you be so kind to reveal the mystery elections that were held when Buhari was head of state?
Did this psychadelic info also come from "first hand accounts" from family members in Kano?

koruji:
GEJ should come and tell Nigerians why our refineries cannot operate at more than 30% capacity.

You will find out that it is the same high level corruption - which if not dealt with will continue to bedevil the entire system.

By the way, the issue is not whether to remove subsidy or not, but how you go about it and under what conditions.

GEJ's approach is not the way it is done anywhere - and this same approach is why no other government has succeeded in the past.

First of all, what is your claim that our refineries cannot or are not operating at more than 30% capacity based on? Sentiment, rumour or solid facts and figures? I challenge you to back up your words or withdraw them.

Secondly, you have mentioned corruption as a problem as if it exists only in govt, whereas it is an all-pervasive Nigerian disease. To you, corruption might be Nigeria's worst problem, but not everyone shares that belief.
A little meditation easily throws up chaos as the real reason why nothing works in Nigeria.

Corruption itself is merely a symptom of chaos. The reason chaos breeds corruption, is that there are no standard approaches to doing things, everything is done in a crazy, adhoc, cut and nail manner; and in the do-or-die scrambles that result, laws (where they exist) are broken, principles compromised, lives lost, police forces become "roger" collectors, senators and reps spit on their constituents and LovePeddler to the highest bidder; rather than fear jail time for treason,  ex-coup plotters dream of becoming presidents; Abuja pays states and LG's instead of the other way round. . . Its a phucking circus.

GEJ has looked at the mess and repeatedly told Nigerians that his govt will build strong institutions to fight corruption. I cannot understand how those repeated words can be lost on we, the educated. If we have identified chaos as the mother of corruption, where best to bring order, but the source of all our wealth? Kill the chaos there, sanitise the oil industry, provide rigid order through strong institutional frameworks and 90% of our corruption will be gone, because suddenly the oxygen that was freely available to intoxicate the powers would have been cut off, forever replaced with standards and due process.

There are different approaches to fighting corruption, but building strong institutions is the only failsafe one. Other methods amount to flailling against the current; ask Idiagbon the results of his efforts, corruption simply waited for him to go on Hajj to Mecca. The rest is history.
Strong institutions are the frameworks we need to defeat corruption and enthrone development.

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Dude, your posts are always entertaining! Its like fecal matter actually voicing its "opinion" on NL!
Keep it up, I'm sure scientists will soon be curious as to how anyone so stup!d can manage to exist. LOLZZZZZZZZZZZ!!!

More intelligent folk know that govt hierachy is:
GEJ
Sambo
Mark
Tambuwal

So whats the crap about Pat Utomi, Donald Duke, Amaechi, Sagay, Saro Wiwa etc? Are they in govt?
Dis kain foolishness de give me headache!

soloqy:
I was amongs those kicking against the removal but I recently had an eye-opening discussion with someone with real information about this rot called fuel subsidy. I think the president is evn brave to admit to it as everyone, I mean everyone in government circles is eating from it.

Its the same thing that Adams Oshiomole saw and changed his mind to support the subsidy removal too. If he was still on the outside looking in, he would have ordered for various sizes of placards and banners by now. But he has seen the realities of the situation. The fuel subsidy has to be removed. And I think the federal government is prepared to take the heat weighing the consequencies of retaining the subsidy.

Please tell them.
Nigerians wish to remain slaves forever for N65.00 per litre petrol; I have never seen such cheap slaves.

For the first time in our history, we have someone who is willing to go out on a limb for the people, only for twopenny thugs like OPC to begin talking crap. I have always wondered why a man of Fasheun's education would stoop so low as to lead a band of area boys and armed robbers; but as they say, you know a man by the company he keeps.

Anybody asking GEJ to resign, just because he is from the ND, is a fool who doesn't know who feeds him.
Perhaps, GEJ should even respond to your call and come back home; then let us see what will follow.

kingoflag:
What dudes do I "HANG OUT WITH" ?!

Dude, you intelligence is not in doubt, so is your bigotry. Go through my posts, then go through yours.

Now, chuck your compliments where the sun don't shine. Peace.

There is no bigotry anywhere in my posts, and I'm willing to withdraw my compliments to ungracious types.
As for my intelligence, it is Gods gift and I sincerely thank Him.

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I will keep praying that one day, God will bless you with principle and morality. It is the lack of these things that made you organise a million man march for Abacha.
Dude, allow me converse with people who posess integrity. Thank you.

expert555:
@beaf
Lol I don't have a village chief I just voicing my opinion it might not necessary be the way you thinks. I just think there is too much bother for an empty GEJ if we are waiting for him to perform we might wait forever

Ok, no vex.

But, I am very curious about where you believe your opinion would lead if it was carried out; most especially, I am curious about what you imagine boko harams response would be. I also wonder if you will willingly physically fight on the same side as boko haram if your ideas turn out to be in tune with their goals.
I hope you will be kind enough to provide answers.

kingoflag:
I doubt your insinuations are true. I understand where you're coming from, especially if you use NL as a Yard stick. The Igbos that I know, however, do not even know hatred like this exists in Nigeria and they will be appalled if I ever showed them a site like NL existed; might change their view of things for the worst. The truth is the mentality of Nigerians is Super-Weird and the things I read on here not only shock, but also anger, me as well.

The Igbos you are referring to above are the Ne'er-do-wells, the crooks, the criminals, the tribalists, and the bigots. Those are the ones that'll share an affinity with a scoundrel that deserves to be dragged in the streets and butchered like Sallah Ram like IBB. See, most of my Igbo friends are Educated and God fearing (my closest friend is Atheist).

Aren't there Igbos that love Northerners? You can't characterize them all as the same. Take a wild guess who Chinua Achebe would rescue if IBB and Buhari were on the edge of a cliff and he had to save just one person. See? Its just unfortunate that most of the clowns we see on NL are the lowest of the low. But, hey, what can we do, right? After all, Seun has to make a living somehow.

Hmmm! There is some good in you after all!
The above is a very redeeming post, the fellows you hang with on NL are all ethnic bigots, so pardon me if I say people like me had written you off.
We might not agree, but you have truly gained my respect with the above post; please keep it up.

The likes of Rhino.5dm are hateful irredeemably creatures fit only to be exhibitted in zoo's and freak shows.

@topic
Can the bigots who are present address the indisputable points about maitatsine and Buhari instead of airing your vast stup!dity about ethnic groups?

kpogede77:
what is happening in sapele is just a warning that northerners should leave delta state, we have not started o, when we start fully , it will be worst than afganistan. i thought they said they would  attack delta, i pity for them we will use them to prepare live suya, sapele and warri will go on flame very soon if the president refuse to stop these people from killing our brethren, we are very brutal people, we r not afraid of any thing.

Kpogede! Abeg flow us the koko; what is really going on on the ground in Sapele?

I do not support your methods, but many people do not understand the unflinching mentality of ND people.
Small, but mighty.

expert555:
@deboss
I asked he resign not necessary to stop BKH attacks but because the country have lack direction in all endeavours. As we all know now the have a very low IQ, you can imagine his smiles when the country is on fire and he needed to be firm to the sultan as Sokoto what he wants to happen to avoid him unlishing the military power upon the barstard. Also more to think about we Christian are not enjoying the dividend of having a Christian president that warrant the death and distraction, in another word we are paying too high price for no reward. Let me know what monumental project in south Nigerian since that slowpoke GEJ comes to power? So on this level I speaks. We are better with a northern leader who will trying to please us because the wealth of the nation comes from us than a confused person being turn by everyone.

I asked someone the questions below a bit earlier. Maybe you care to answer them, cos they apply 100% to your post too:

Beaf:
Should GEJ resign for your village chief to take over? What message would his resignation pass? Some posts seem like they have come out of an anus.
There isn't a single sentence that one would even credit to a toddler above. We should think things through before embarrassing ourselves in public. 'Just some wise words for you to ponder.

@Negro_Ntns
Did you post that lengthy text for fun? I am at great pains to understand the "misconceptions" you claim to be clearing or even if 100% of what you posted is not lightweight hearsay that is irrelevant to this thread.

Please don't derail the thread.