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[quote author=alj_harem link=topic=660060.msg8267334#msg8267334 date=1304641285]you are making no sense i pointed out your error in your comments just like you see fit to point out the error in tinubu accept correction and grow up[/quote]Go and play with your goats. If you roll on the ground crying or fall off your carmel, it still wouldn't advance any argument that counters the fact that Tinubu's politics is ugly, bigoted and fascist. Do you think it will? lol |
[quote author=alj_harem link=topic=660060.msg8267292#msg8267292 date=1304640251]i don't care if u go around or not u comment on the yoruba threads but once igbo u keep u foul mouth shut like a snail it is none of my business anyway, i just wanted to point to you how bigoted you are aswell anyway we agree on something, WE BOTH DO NOT LIKE TINUBU but calling him a bigot when GEJ is there is a bit far fetch[/quote]The bolded is another thing we agree on. Now take your infantile crap to the kids section of NL. |
[size=14pt]True federalism: Key for real growth and development[/size] On May 6, 2011 · In Viewpoint THE Presidential debate which was introduced into the 2011 general election campaign in Nigeria was very exhilarating and expository. Due to self-serving tendency of some political elite which sprang from the sectional-inclined military regimes, some of the imperatives and principles of democratic government which are taken for granted in advanced democracies have been deliberately glossed over in Nigeria so as to achieve a predetermined ends to satiate the covert cravings of Moslem leaders of Northern extraction. The presidential media debates had exposed the vulnerable flanks of pretenders to the exalted seat, as it equally threw up well-rounded intellectuals who proffered pragmatic and realistic suggestions on the myriad debilitating socio-economic challenges that manacled the growth and development of the country in real terms. I was utterly flabbergasted about the postulations of some presidential aspirants in the presidential debate and election campaigns. They displayed abject lack of intellectual acuity to perceive elementary ethos about realistic federal structure of democratic governance. They appear to be mentally and spiritually blind to be unable to perceive the great tragedy and havoc done to Nigerians due to deliberate distortion of the tenets of federalism and devious imposition of a unitary structure by the military autocrat. The unitary structure or pseudo federalism was religiously maintained by successive apologists of military governments in the deceptive guise of maintaining peace and unity of the country. It is very sad that it was only one presidential aspirant, Prof. Patrick Utomi who took the bull by the horns and hammered the cries of realistic Nigerians to restructure the country in line with true federalism. His exposition and postulation showed the extent of apparent mesmerism created by the devious military regimes and the Northern Moslems to cage Nigerians which has all along stunted the developmental yearnings and aspirations of meaningful Nigerians. The simple pathway to realistic and pragmatic social, economic and political growth and development in Nigeria is the political will to go back to a full bloom federalism structure before the Nigerian civil war. The truth is that the leaders of the Moslem North is apparently jittery about the practice of undiluted federalism since it would rob them of the secret agenda to cage and intimidate other religious /ethnic groups in Nigerian. The simple question had remained unanswered viz- Why did the military regimes abandoned the practice of federalism that was in firm footing and yielding progressive socio-economic growth and development in the three regimes before the Nigeria-Biafra civil war? Why should there be federal ministries, departments and agencies (MDAs) in which state governments can conveniently operate effectively and efficiently for the optimum benefit of their people? Prof Pat Utomi narrated how the then Western Region government under the late political sage, Chief Obafemi Awolowo, set the enviable pace for all-round growth and development and emulated by the then leaderships of the Eastern and Northern Nigeria. Those development legacies within the context of true federalism became virtually moribund with the deliberate/crafty over-centralization of MDAs by the military regimes, and timidly sustained by successive civilian administrations. It has become crystal clear that the greatest impediment and hindrance to competitive development strides by the state governments was the over-centralization of MDAs courtesy of concurrent legislative list in the largely discredited Nigeria Constitution-a contraption of the last military regime. It is naïve and silly to have federal ministries of work, health, education, water resources, agriculture, etc; and agencies like the Police, Federal Road Safety Commission (a duplication of traffic Police) which dubiously control the production of motor driving license and vehicle plate numbers at the great loss of internally-generated revenue of state governments? Why should states not be allowed to formulate their policies and programmes peculiar to their environment and world view of their people in the creation and operation of MDAs? Realistic federalism depicts that the Federal Government should have no business having MDAs, except Ministries of Aviation, Custom, and Army; this is what obtains in sane and civilized countries of the world and is a target of Vision 20:2020. This development mantra will remain illusive with the status quo in the over-centralization of MDAs. It is only in an apparently accursed polity that this monstrous aberration is operated and sustained without question. A former governor of Anambra State, Dr. Chris Ngige, demonstrated that state governments can take care of all roads within their territory. Some governors, such as Mr Peter Obi, have demonstrated that they can pay the salaries of the Police and equip them to fight crimes to a stand-still since the Federal Government has failed to equip the Police for maximum efficiency and effectiveness. In The educational sector, the aspirations of Anambra, Imo, Bayelsa and Lagos peoples are totally at variance with those of Sokoto, Borno, Zamfara and Kano peoples. Why then should there be a Federal Ministry of Education and worst of all a central admission agency into institutions of higher learning (JAMB) where quota is dubiously applied, thus preventing Southerners from accessing higher education for the development of their people? JAMB Registrar, Prof. Dibu Ojerinde helplessly attributed mass failure on Federal Government’s inconsistent policies and inefficiencies in the education system. According to THISDAY March 23, 2011, the Federal Government has again come up with another unrealistic and preposterous education policy titled, “College Curriculum” supposedly aimed at equipping graduates of the scheme with greater attributes for higher education. The naive policy stated: “…They will be trained on relevant functional trades and entrepreneurial skill needed for poverty eradication, job creation and wealth generation”. What a balderdash and arrant nonsense being put together by the Nigerian Educational Research and Development Council, NERDC. Mr. POLYCARP ONWUBIKO, a public affairs analyst , wrote from Awka, Anambra State. http://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/05/true-federalism-key-for-real-growth-and-development/ |
^ Dude, you make some really strange comments. It is not my duty on NL to go around balancing the policicing of ethnic bigots. In any event, you are a relative newcomer to NL, so you have never witnessed some pretty ugly exchanges I had with non-Yoruba's (ask Ezeuche whom you mentioned). I see your trick though and it is weak. You tried abusing my father to derail the topic, it didn't work (same way you tried calling me names), now you are finally attempting to discuss the topic as you should have done in the beginning (albeit with the strange suggestion that I attack Igbo's). You really need recharging, abeg, put your battery in the sun jare! Or just eat more grass. As I have maintained, Tinubu's politics is ugly, bigoted and fascist. That is what you should put your mind to. Dunce. |
[quote author=alj_harem link=topic=660060.msg8266964#msg8266964 date=1304633428]bros i am just being honest with you here hate or like itwhether i eat grass or not is not the issue here the issue is that u are an ideeiot no offence just the truthif u do not believe me ask your biological father if u have 1 [/quote]Thank you. Tinubu has made ACN into a sectional party, he is also a worse criminal than Ibori that will never be accepted in the SS where he is concentrating his best efforts.Kill yourself if you do not have a sensible counter argument and because you cannot change the perception of the people. lol! How are the other youthful but wasting almajiri's doing sir? ![]() |
[size=14pt]Delta guber: Ogboru raises 2 legal teams against Uduaghan[/size] From BUCHY ENYINNAYA, Asaba Friday, May 06, 2011 The Democratic Peoples Party (DPP) which is the closest runner-up to the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) in the result of the April 26 governorship election, and other elective positions in the state, has raised two legal teams to challenge the election of Dr. Emmanuel Uduaghan of the PDP. The legal action by the DPP are in two fold as disclosed by the state chairman of the DPP, Chief Tony Ezeagwu. According to him, the petitions would come up for hearing in Asaba, as soon as the election tribunals are inaugurated. In an interview with Daily Sun yesterday in Asaba, Ezeagwu disclosed that the party filed the petition at the Court of Appeal sitting in Benin but that hearing was hindered by the crises that rocked the national leadership of the judiciary. “We filed our papers in Benin to beat the deadline and even our papers were not served due to that crises and now that the election tribunals were being constituted, the matter will have to come to Asaba for trial”. According to him, the DPP was already gathering documents to enable it prosecute its petitions against the election of Uduaghan on April 26 even as the party had applied to the Independent National Electoral Commission, INEC to provide it with all electoral materials used during the election. Ezeagwu who expressed optimism that the DPP candidate, Chief Great Ogboru would reclaim his mandate hinted that his confidence in the judiciary was unshakable. “There is still hope and we do advise that tested judges be appointed at the various tribunals so that at the end of the day, every party will be satisfied”. He noted that the DPP as a party had done well in the state and that election did not take place in the three local government areas in Warri where Uduaghan secured over 180,000 votes to defeat Ogboru. He also disclosed that forensic experts would be used at the tribunal to scrutinize all the election materials used. Speaking on the expectations of the people from President Goodluck Jonathan, the DPP chairman tasked him to address the yearnings of the people especially in the areas of electricity supply, security, rural development, agriculture and unemployment. http://www.sunnewsonline.com/webpages/news/national/2011/may/06/national-06-05-2011-014.htm |
^ Bros, you still eating grass? Its really affecting your mind badly sha! ![]() |
enyojo:Madam, simply face the topic and stop trying to dodge. I like most, fail to see what PDP has to do with this topic. But the paranoid always see far out angles. Lol! In case you missed the obvious, the threads title is "Acn Not A Yoruba Party, Says Ngige." Dodging the question does not stop non-ACN people from outside the SW seeing the party as ethnically bigoted at best and fascist at worst. Why don't you try to convince us, instead of going off on a tangent? Fashola would make a much better leader than Tinubu who is a known criminal and lacks the level of civility to interface with other ethic groups. His greatest efforts outside the SW are in the SS where his uncouth methods are interpreted (99% likely correctly) to be a very desperate, loveless, exploitative, anything goes dash for major oil producing states. It will be resisted. |
petroleum marketers in the territory have advised motorists not to engage in panic buying as the hiccups experienced in getting the product will soon be over.http://www.tribune.com.ng/sat/index.php/news/3617-fuel-scarcity-hits-abuja.html |
The scarcity is artificial, its caused by marketers (which is why it is highly localiesed). There is abundant fuel: Date Published: 05/05/11http://www.pointblanknews.com/News/os4891.html |
koruji:Its like a black man calls a white man a rascal and the white man replies that the black man is a monkey that has left the forest to converse with those on land. . . You know the drill. You really seem stuck on PDP and issues that have absolutely no connection to the negative perceptions others from outside the SW have of ACN and Tinubu. It is also incredible that you can compare Tinubu to 'daylight-thieves and possible murderers that have no qualms contesting and "winning" elections under PDP.' Not only can Tinubu be described as a 'daylight-thief and possible murderer that has no qualms contesting and "winning" elections under ACN,' look at the extraordinary riots, carnage and assassinations due to ACN in Akwa Ibom (most recently, a man who recently congratulated Akpabio was gunned down and those in his camp have gone into hiding). Your scales are definitely biased; I am sure you will be quick to condemn Ibori, that is good and healthy; but you cannot do that while adoring Tinubu who is several times worse. It is always useful to be able to see things through the eyes of the victim, ACN has a lot to do to clean up its sectionalist and paranoid image outside the SW. |
RoadStar:I am fast discovering that it is impossible to convince the ACN lovers of what is a very insulting folly. But its all good, they will live with the consequences. ACN is a regional party that has closed the gates of ever going national through being insular and supremacist, the steerers of the ship are blind to the fact and so are their followers. |
In what part of okija do they find bad winshes like Ian Wright? ![]() |
zstranger:I don't give a rats arse what you "own." If you practice bigoted or supremacist politics, you will be badly received by those who are not in your group. Its very simple logic really. |
[quote author=ndu_chucks link=topic=660234.msg8261372#msg8261372 date=1304555047]The above shows how naive and ignorant you are about Nigerian politics. olodo[/quote]Bros, if not that you write one or two other words every once in a while, one might be tempted to conclude that your knowledge of the alphabet is limited to the letters that make up, "olodo!" lol |
koruji:Your arguments are merely sentimental and somewhat off point. The simple fact is ACN has been shaped and is perceived to be a party based on ethnic politics alone; the worst bit is the sheer volume of bigots who push their "supremacy" in our faces off the back of ACN. It is a very strong perception that will not go away with sentimental arguments; if I were you, I would call and persuade my people to order instead; a lot of unnecessary harm is being done. If you think the fisherman comment was fair, there is little point attempting to debate with you. There was absolutely no reason on Earth for such an attack on a wide region, and we from the affected region see it as what it is, na'ked ethnic bigotry - any party that is driven by such things as ethnic bigotry is properly described as fascist. I wonder why some ethnic bigots right here on NL have taking to calling SS people drunken fishermen if they do not interprete it as ethnically bigoted? Its a fact thats clear to the blind. ACN is not all bad, I deeply admire Fashola for instance. However, he has no say in wider party policy, that is all down to one mans whim, Tinubu; outside him ACN does not exist. I do not know of anyone outside ACN that does not detest Tinubu. |
Fashola is doing very well, he is an excellent governor, but the fear is that Tinubu's take of 2billion a month will surely bankrupt the state. After Fashola leaves, what next for his successor? |
[size=14pt]Lagos to run on deficit budgeting till 2013[/size] On May 5, 2011 · · In News By Olasunkanmi Akoni & monsur Olowoopejo Lagos State Commissioner for Economic Planning and Budget, Mr. Ben Akabueze, has said that the state will continue to run a deficit budget till year 2013. He, however, added that after the estimated year, there might be an improvement in its budgets. The Commissioner, who gave the indication, yesterday, while presenting his ministry’s achievements to journalists at Ikeja, said that the state might be high in debt for a while. He, however, stressed that the state has no need to borrow at the moment but only to finance capital project. He cautioned against giving wrong impression about volume of the state’s debt, but the capacity to accommodate such a profile. “America is about the most indebted nation in the world, but the size of its economy is such that can be compare to very few countries. Borrowing in itself is not wrong, it is what you do with the borrowed-money that mattered,” Akabueze said. Noting that Nigeria, as one of the N-11 (Next 11 after the OECD) countries, owes just about $9 billion out of the over $11 trillion debt profile of the N-11, as against that of South Korea’s $314 billion, “but the reality is that the Korea’s economy is bigger.” He assured on the state’s capacity, through its budgetary provisions, to sustain the servicing of its debt profile. “Lagos State is the only state in Nigeria that the World Bank granted budget support facility because of its transparency in its public finance,” he said. Akabuexe also disclosed that the project contract sums submitted by ministries, departments and agencies (MDAs) running to 1,455 for 2010 was scaled down to N286.5 billion from N343 Billion. http://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/05/lagos-to-run-on-deficit-budgeting-till-2013/ |
[size=14pt]Obama calls Nigeria's Jonathan, laments violence[/size] (AFP) – 2 hours ago WASHINGTON — US President Barack Obama said Wednesday he called Nigerian President Goodluck Jonathan, congratulating him on his election victory while denouncing post-election violence in Africa's most populous nation. Obama said in a statement he commended the people of Nigeria "for their resolve and patience during last month's historic presidential, legislative and gubernatorial elections." Jonathan, a southern Christian, defeated ex-military ruler Muhammadu Buhari, a Muslim from the north, in the April 16 vote that led to an explosion of rioting in Nigeria. Obama said that "the success of the elections was a testament to Nigerian voters who waited in long lines, stayed to watch their votes counted and were determined that these elections mark a new chapter in Nigerian history." The US leader said Nigerian authorities should "investigate and address any allegations of fraud or irregularities." Obama's comments echoed those of a US diplomat last week who said Nigeria's elections bode well for the future of democracy in that country and send a strong signal that other African states can hold successful polls. "While the majority of Nigerians cast their ballots free from intimidation and coercion, the post-election violence that followed the presidential election on April 16 was deplorable," Obama stated. "Violence has no place in a democratic society, and it is the responsibility of all Nigerians to reject it. Democracy, however, neither begins nor ends with elections. Now is the time for Nigeria's leaders and its people to come together and build the future that they deserve -- a multi-party democracy that addresses the aspirations of all Nigerians. "As Africa's most populous country, Nigeria can show what is possible when people of different parties, ethnicities and faith backgrounds come together to seek peace, provide for their families, and give their children a better future. Today, Nigerians have an historic opportunity to move forward together and make their nation into a model for Africa." http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5hmfuUXY_JQbKVyNlgPJxREhb1Lbg?docId=CNG.c70da682a40f1f5d5b4739c645cf8a6b.11 |
Their word shouldn't be taken with any seriousness, not after the degree of bad blood they generated. Its either they are playing a game, or they are trying to curry favours from Abuja, not for their people, but for their pockets. |
[size=14pt]ACF makes U-turn, declares support for Jonathan[/size] By Johnson Ayantunji, Abel Orukpe (Lagos) and Baba Negedu (Kaduna) Left with no option – and with the spoils about to be shared – the Arewa Consultative Forum (ACF) on Wednesday backed down from its demand for a President who is a Northerner and congratulated Goodluck Jonathan on his successful run for Aso Rock. It equally saluted Attahiru Jega and his Independent National Electoral Commission (INEC) team for a ballot the ACF noted is adjudged by both local and international observers as free, fair, and credible. ACF National Publicity Secretary, Anthony Sani, said the body congratulated Jonathan, “over (his) victory in the elections” as well as all Governors, and federal and state lawmakers “for their successes.” A statement Sani issued in Kaduna explained that the ACF decided to congratulate Jonathan “at a well attended meeting” of its National Working Committee (NWC), presided over by ACF Chairman Aliko Muhammed. It also congratulated election losers at all levels for their spirited efforts in providing the electorate with alternative platforms needed in a democracy, which thrives with vibrant opposition. It urged the victors to be magnanimous and recognise that governance is an act of balancing competing demands among constituent parts of the united whole. “On the other hand," it stressed, "losers are also called upon to accept defeat in good faith and seek redress through due process of law where it is absolutely necessary.” In the view of the ACF, Jonathan and other political leaders should have a realistic appreciation of the circumstances of their emergence and bring Nigerians together and enable them to unleash their synergy by way of living up their collective challenges. No nation thrives on the victory of its factions but through their ultimate reconciliations, it stressed. It condemned the killing of National Youth Service Corps (NYSC) members in the North during the election and advocated that the “NYSC scheme should be retained and spirited efforts be made to ensure the security of members.” Despite the congratulation the ACF sent to Jonathan, however, the Action Congress of Nigeria (ACN) insisted on Wednesday that it is not interested in a Government of National Unity (GNU) being mooted by Abuja. ACF National Publicity Secretary, Lai Mohammed, said the stand of the ACN is that a GNU stifles democracy by compromising virile opposition which is a key ingredient of a vibrant democracy, thereby encouraging the emergence of a one-party state. “It also stunts development and promotes complacency. We hope this clarification will silence those who have been peddling the lies that our party sold out to the PDP during the Presidential election,’’ he said. He urged ACN members keen on a GNU to first quit the party, and reminded state ACN Chairmen to guard their utterances and clear with the National Executive Committee (NEC) before commenting on issues. ‘’No member, at any level of the party, should trade with our name. State Chairmen should comment only on issues within their areas of authority and stop committing the party on issues that are only within the purview of the (NEC). ‘’We know that this is the ripe season for ‘food is ready’ politicians, who are ready to sell their birth right, if necessary, to join any government in power. But as we have always said, we are not willing to compromise our ideals just because we want to share in the spoils of office. ‘’If we did not compromise when we had just one state, why should we do so now that we have grown to six states, with the possibility of growing further when we challenge in court those who stole our mandates? “Therefore, any member who wishes to work with a PDP government should get out of our party today.” The ACN said the era of its executives paying ‘courtesy’ visits to governments of the ruling party in their states is long gone, and that any member who tries to trade with the name of the ACN would be sanctioned. It added that Akwa Ibom ACN Chairman, Aniekan Akpan, stands suspended and can no longer speak for the party. From Lagos, ACN National Chairman Bisi Akande also insisted that the party cannot form a GNU with the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) as it will amount to bringing light and darkness together. He was reacting to the statement made on Tuesday by Ekiti ACN Chairman, Jide Awe, that the party would work with Jonathan in a GNU if he follows democratic norms acceptable to the party. “It is a lie and I don’t think he (Awe) said so. It is not possible for the ACN to work with the PDP; it’s like pairing light with darkness. "The ACN will never work in any PDP government,” Akande maintained. He also denied that ACN Presidential candidate, Nuhu Ribadu, plans to jump ship. “Ribadu became our presidential candidate because we know him to be a very principled personality. That is not true. Ribadu is stronger in the ACN today than when he joined us.” http://www.independentngonline.com/DailyIndependent/Article.aspx?id=33243 |
[quote author=Rhino.5dm link=topic=660060.msg8260998#msg8260998 date=1304549907]^^ Agreed! ACN is what you said. But PDP can't be igbo party.[/quote]Thank you, now can we move along? The thread is about ACN. |
sbeezy8:That dude is a pathetic clown that goes about the place foul-mouthing other people and making surprising claims to intellect. Chamber2 is one of the smartest people on NL (and by a long shot too), while Sagamite is way below ordinary, yet throwing supremely daft challenges. It makes for a very entertaining thread indeed, a true thesis on the inards of Sagamites troubled psychology. |
^ Does any of this crap mean that ACN is not a sectional fascist party? ![]() See dodging!! Abeg deal with the topic jare, and stop running around like a headless chicken. ![]() |
Please people, calm down with the anti-SW threads. It isn't good. IMHO it is ok to be anti-ACN, but definitely not anti-Yoruba. |
humebuloe:It isn't in court, CPC has only been making a lot of noise and threats of legal action, because they are sore losers. In reality, the party is now in dissaray, with the members in full battle against the leadership; their DG was almost torn to pieces in their last meeting (Buhari couldn't even attend). |
seanet02:Let Tinubu live with the consequences, if a man slights you directly, you do not slight his ethnicity or section in return. There were enough signals even for the blind, but Tinubu persisted; if he wishes to practice fascist politics, then he must be prepared for the fallout. Were there issues between SS and SW before Tinubu's statements? There were none, he invented tensions for his own shortsighted purposes; well, the consequences are here. Let the Ngige's continue denying the obvious, we can only be patient, because they will unfailingly return to the roots that nurture them. No to fascism and ethnic bigotry. ![]() |
More for the zstranger's and other "creators" of history. The history of Nigeria’s current democratic dispensation will not be complete without the mention of Dr. Alex Ekwueme. The seasoned architect and multidisciplinary degree holder was founder and Chairman of the Institute of Civil Society, an organisation that gave birth to the G34. The history to G34 and the formation of the ruling Peoples Democratic Party is all well known.http://www.punchng.com/Articl.aspx?theartic=Art201102132521814 You were one of the leaders of G-34 that fought for return of democracy. Is the group dead?http://www.vanguardngr.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5256&Itemid=0 |
zstranger:Don't be in a hurry to haul abuse, especially when you are wrong (at least by your own standards): Peoples Democratic Party came into being on the 19th August, 1998. It was formed by a group called G.34 Committee headed by Dr. Alex Ekwueme, the Vice-President of Nigeria in the Second Republic.http://globaljournals.org/GJHSS_Volume11/4-Challenges-of-Internal-Democracy-in-Nigeria%20s.pdf |
adamabdul:Dude, I hear Boko Haram people are from Niger Republic. Is it true? If so, we need to teach that country a sharp lesson. |
10cirenoh:Dude, it is impossible to test intelligence by asking daft questions. There is evidence, deal with it; CPC is going to court, not so? The evidence will be tendered. They will be legally punched out, logically bazookared and intellectually walloped until they stagger like reprobate drunks. lol! RIP CPC. ![]() |
bashr4:Exactly. Right here on NL, there are bigots like Gbawe, Eko Ile, Ekt_bear etc that very aggressively push ACN as an ethnic party, even to the point of disgusting bigotry. The founders of the party actively claim it is a Yoruba party and act out such claims by making ethnically bigoted statements against other sections of the country (eg Tinubu's notorious "drunken fisherman" with "capsized canoes" coming to land to seek votes quip). Unsurprisingly, other sections of the country are beginning to percieve ACN as a fascist party that must be excluded from their territories like a dominating cancer. [Quote author=Ezeuche] If he has to comment like that, that means that the perception of ACN is a Yoruba Party.[/quote]Precisely. |
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