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[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=640663.msg8068477#msg8068477 date=1302129373]$10 million is enough to buy me.

Money sweet o

wouldn't sell my integrity for 100 naira though, like beaf did[/quote]Dude, you have as much integrity as a thief, liar or murderer.

Wadeoye:
I will belief the online poll more than the "mago mago" poll by [size=14pt]ipso[/size]. At least, we are all here watching as people vote and if you talk about multiple IDs, you can't pin this down on the supporters of a particular candidate - any dubious person could have done that.

The [size=14pt]Ipso [/size] poll can't be trusted - who knew when the poll was conducted? The areas/states covered. If they chose to interview PDP members, what will the outcome be?

The NL poll on the other hand is open to everybody and most importantly the people voting here are not the traditional policians and they are not party members. These are professionals that will come out to vote on April 16.

Please, know what you are talking about sir! The "s" at the end isn't for plural.

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Ipsoshttps://euweb2.mydnd.com/images/tick.png[/size]

. . .At last, we found a pix of Musiwa. . . The owner of Heaven!!

https://www.bionicgenius.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/03/bling.gif

Unu go wound o!

fingard02k:
Here is the true story of the incident.Last night SARS stopped a man with a bike.while going to buy something and seized his bike,so the man left them the bike.So while turning around to go a car without light hitted him,while rushing him to hospital he died.So the angry youth this morning took his corps to the SARS office for them to carry.So the SARS started shooting gun.So some of the youth with odeshi got angered and started cursing the police,while doing that the police started shooting them.So they rushed them and killed two SARS policemen.That was how the riot started

May the souls of the dead rest in peace. We really need to sit back and begin educating and organising our people. We need to begin building strong institutions as a matter of urgency, otherwise things like this will be the order of the day and even get worse. We have had a fountain of chaos brewing for decades now, and its beginning to boil over.

I pray for the likes of Gbawe; people who would normally be smart, but have become cold and twisted to the point that they think any life lost is a political pun.

Excerpt from an interview with a far sighted visionery and father of the Lagos metro line project, Alhaji Lateef Kayode Jakande.
Published 22/07/2009

[img]http://thenationonlineng.net/web3/thumbnail.php?file=JAKANDE_236045951.jpg&size=article_medium[/img]

The metro line was frustrated. Would it have made any difference today, judging by the chaotic transportation situation in Lagos?

Thank you. Metro line was one programme which I endeavoured to implement. Till today, I am saddened by the fact that the metro line was cancelled. You know, given the geography of Lagos, there is no alternative to metro line. Wheather this year, or next year, 10 years or 20 years, there must be metro line in Lagos State.

The reason is that the landscape is limited. The programme was designed so that passengers could be carried on rails while the roads are free for other means of transportation. What pained me most was that the government of Gbolahan Mudasiru under the Buhari regime set up three different committees on the project and each of them recommended it. One of them recommended price reduction. But, they all believed it was possible. One even wondered how we had succeeded, so far. The cost of the metro line at that time, by our negotiation, was N700 million. The terms of agreement were advance payment by Lagos State government, 10 per cent, and the balance was to be paid by the French consortium, all the 19 companies. Ninety per cent of the cost was to be borrowed. We had actually determined the corridors and appointed a French General Manager. But, suddenly, Buhari, even against the wish of Lagos State government- cancelled the metro line. I have no doubt in my mind that metro line will come back, but at a terrible cost. In my view, Lagos has no choice.

http://thenationonlineng.net/web2/articles/11139/1/My-participation-in-Abacha-govt-was-an-act-of-God/Page1.html

Bless you sir! Words of a true administrator, overthrown and jailed by Buhari for no reason.

nakedall:
Buhari cancelled a metroline project saying it makes no sence to execute the project while we are owning, very interesting that some people on this forum are still supporting him. are we not owing now? is USA not owning? that means if Buhary come to power (GOD FORBID) no project will be executed again again, the whole system will collapse because we are owing. wake up guys.

Buhari's action isn't surprising, considering that he played very active roles in the govts that oversaw the death of manufacturing, cotton, rubber, cocoa, groundnuts etc; all for easy oil and poverty.
The shortsightedness of those regimes led by primitive semi-literate armed men, led to Nigerians having to line up for essential commodities (Essenco in Buhari's time), like Omo, toothpaste, milk, bread, toilet roll, rice etc, during Buhari and IBB's regimes. Reason? Oil prices had fallen.

timbuk two:
Ipsos/ThisDay interviewed 236 people in Lagos state and from their results concluded that 80% of Lagosians will vote for GEJ in the elections.

Nairaland has polled 312 people with 55.1% people voting for Buhari and only 26% people voting GEJ.

Given the state on nigeria's newspapers - as well as the dubious method of conducting the interviews in the ThisDay poll - which poll do you think is the more accurate reflection of Lagosians voting mood?

Comparing NL and Ipsos!!! Why not compare a rewire to an MIT electronics professor as well?
NL and comedy sha! Wetin pesin no go see for dis life!

www.nairaland.com/attachments/180447_ROTFLMAO_gif3d0c775232c7f27cf80592785b9635b6

appletango:
Read what John Campbell (someone who knows more about Nigerian politics than you ever will) thinks about your beloved poll.

And I find it very interesting how you choose to ignore the key point here: NIGERIANS (NOT IPSOS STAFF) conducted the "interviews". IPSOS only collated the "results" and put their name to it.

You never see the whole picture beaf? Your mind always operates in fist gear.

So John Campbell is now the measure of the effectiveness of professional, PhD equipped statisticians? Dude, your argument is very worrying.
I have every in Ipsos above any hearsay, thank you!

Jarus:
Even in 2003 when Buhari was not half this popular, he polled 32%.
He will easily poll 45% at least this time around.

Buhari is not more popular than he was in 2003.
The crowds he has pulled in the North always have a very high percentage of underage folk and cannot be taken as a measure of popularity. Thats what the Ipsos poll is picking up.
If anything, Buhari is even less popular in the South and Middle Belt than he was in 2003.

Analyst: PDP = ANPP = ACN = CPC = No Ideology
Hmmmmmmmmmmm!

Analyst: PDP = Corruption
Hmmmmmmmmmmm!
Analyst: CPC = ex-PDP members . . .Therefore CPC = Corruption too
Hmmmmmmmmmmm!

. . .But
Analyst: also CPC = Yar Adua cabal members = Dread

. . .And
Analyst: ACN = Tinubu
Analyst: Tinubu = Drugs and Sleaze[b]
Analyst:[/b] ANPP = Shekarau = Sharia

Conclusion
Its not and can never be about parties (except that CPC really stands out in the cold horror stakes).

noblezone:
It is not about eloquence, it is about comprehesion.

If the man understood questions and was having problem with eloquence, I won't complain.

My problem is this: the old man (whether it is as a result of old age) was finding it difficult to understand simple questions at the first instance. So, the interviewer had to repeat questions for him.

Let us assume this man becomes President and is to be interviewed on the CNN:

Interviewer: Mr President, can you tell us how you are contending with the challenges of governing a multi ethnic and religious country like Nigeria.

Mr President: By my training in the Nigerian army, I am not tribal or religiuos in my approach to issues.

Word.

Lets take a que from real events at NN24:

NN24 interviewer: Sir, can you tell us how you are solve the electric power generation problem in Nigeria?

Buhari: I will probe, I will set up probes from 1999 till date.

Thats what students calling firing OP. There is no greater demonstration of a lack of comprehension from the old man.

kalokalo:
This is very true. Lagos state was forced to pay $79 million dollars in penalties for breach of contract. As matter of fact, the military administrator at the time, Colonel Mudashiru made a high powered representation to the Buhari regime of that penalty clause in the agreement for the metro-line project. Buhari still went ahead and canceled it. Lagos state paid that debt for many years inclusive of interest. How myopic

Fast forward 25 years and we are back to the same project albeit now priced in Billions of dollars. Cairo's subways/light rail system was built by the same company that was to build the metro-line for Lagos. The projects were launched at roughly the same time as that of Nigeria.

There is no greater show of shame and utter visionlessness! Buhari wasn't equipped to deal with economics and the modern World, decades ago in 1985's analogue environment. How will he fare in todays fast paced digital and highly sophisticated environment?

appletango:
These Polls and the Newspaper have already been discredited.

Imagine, ThisDay Journalists as "interviewers"!! LOL!!

This is crass ignorance. Who discredited Ipsos? Almajiri's?
I am sure you have no clue of what Ipsos is.

Ipsos S.A. (Euronext: IPS) is a global market research company headquartered in Paris, France. The Company was founded in 1975 and has been publicly traded on the Paris Stock Exchange since 1 July 1999. Since 1990, the Group has created or acquired companies in more than 60 countries.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ipsos

kasiem:
This sicknesses is graduating to madness. Why are u calling dame in this matter? Is it to display your ignorance of bbmanism?

Dude, ignore the insect, at least it recognised that Ipsos is World respected. Allow it to express its jealousy.
62% and 26 states can cause fever. LOL!

[size=21pt]Fresh Air 2011!!![/size]

[quote author=onye_ngbu* link=topic=640543.msg8073433#msg8073433 date=1302187266] Crowd of Northern Army and Police wives in Onitsha
Archbishop Val no de fear like that oo. He don see more violent mujahideens.[/quote]. . ."See crowd!!!"

Thief.

Suitcases.

Murderer.

Bigot.

Zealot

Almajiri.

Primitive.

kasiem:
@op,
be ready for attacks and pelting from the usual lynchers

Lol! Dem no de fear fear?
Yes. I'd expected the same funnies to come in here talking ridiculous stories about how World respected Ipsos is actually a branch of ThisDay.
I guess though that many will avoid this topic, because any Ipsos poll the World over is always within -+3% of the truth.

GEJ's lead is actually strengthening as we near the polls.
Nice.

^
GEJ has promised free and fair elections. He has done that by putting the instruments of state at INEC's disposal, while strictly maintaining INEC's independence. He has called several security meetings/meetings with Jega concerning the weaknesses exposed with the election cancellation. That is how to act responsibly, and he is covered.

Buhari on the other hand has gone around making childish statements about how the cancellation (in some mysterious way) exposed "rigging" plans by PDP.
Now that is all 100% speculation. So, what we find amiss, is how in all the noise he has not mentioned PROVEN rigging attempts he encountered with his own eyes, in child voters attempting to influence the ballot? Is is because those almajiri's were attempting to rig for him?

appletango:
Another failed thread by team GEJ.

You guys are getting so desperate. L0L!!

You actually sound pathetic!

The question you guys are avoiding is really simple. Where are Buhari's comments on the underage supporters (who form the bulk of his rally throngs) attempting to vote in his state state, in Daura, in his ward?

Oshiomole's proposal is wishy washy. It has nothing to do with true federalism and is only changing the terms of burden on the Niger Delta as it affects non-stakeholders.

We are better off going the whole hog as is done all over the World. A state eg Ekiti, should generate 100% of its revenue and pay taxes to the FG. The FG should not be in a position to share money to anybody, thats where corruption stems from. Yes, corruption is due to our poor national architecture.

In other countries, revenue is generated from the bottom up; LG's are the real engines, they pay taxes to state (or province, parish etc depending on country), and those pay taxes to the FG in turn.
That sort of organisation will challenge the regions to be productive, encourage healthy competition (as against the foolish Yoruba vs Igbo threads on NL), encourage accountability, diminish ethnic bigotry and kill do-or-die politics (no massive pie to fight for in Abuja).

We keep missing the trick, because sharing oil money is so easy. But in doing that, we blind ourselves to the fact that all over tghe World mere cities generate more money than the entire Nigeria for the simple reason that they are organised and their national architectures have been set up for progress, rather than lazily sharing money. To sink it in, Mexico City makes more money than Nigeria, yet Mexico is corrupt in staggering ways, even worse, Mexico is a developing country like Nigeria.

Has anyone ever heard of US states going to ask Obama to share money? The mere thought is ridiculous.

Demdem:
@ Naso,

Its obvious you have seen the above in another thread as posted by NL nagoma. why dont you wait till he responds to your question before insinuating that GMB doesnt have good intentions as far as yorubas are concerned?

Na_so has a point. Nobody seems to have any answers to why he cancelled the Lagos metro, neither has Buhari's own shaky answer been defended by anyone.
To further Na_so's point, while Buhari held huge rallies even in rural areas of the North, he stolidly avoided Lagos; Nigeria's former capital, economic powerhouse and foremost city. How do we explain these things?

Kobojunkie:
I say again . . .  something does not seem right with this!

If "something does not seem right," its your job to point it out, not annoy us by reposting the same sentence without providing any explanation. If you can't provide an explanation or don't understand, avoid posting in large font and take time out to digest first.

We are dealing with hard figures and hard facts, not "feelings" or anything that sounds psychedelic or pseudo-spiritual.

[quote author=Omo_Tier1 link=topic=640836.msg8070610#msg8070610 date=1302162512]Your stupidity has reached an alarming level! In the circumstances that prevailed at the time, Buhari was probably right to have cancelled that project. For crying out loud, with the over 30trillion PDP has wasted, of that waste would 500billion naira not have provide lagos with the much needed Metro?
In fact, maybe you need to go get a copy of the report of the two committees that Buhari based his decision on so the public can rightly conclude.

The bolded part of your suggest you have very little understanding of what Metrolines are met for![/quote]We keep seeing this repeated abusive attitude from Buhari supporters. Why? It would even have been slightly less shocking if you hadn't veered so sharply off course to talk about PDP. . . In 1985 when the metro was cancelled?

So, now that we've left your comedy where it belongs, would you like to tell us how his ignorant actions to "save" money ended up loading Lagos with a debt of 12billion Naira ($78million) and no metro? Is that how to save money and develop the country? Maybe like Buhari, you just don't know.

The initial Metroline project was scrapped in 1985 by Muhammadu Buhari at a loss of over $78 million to the Lagos tax payers.

- Farukanmi, Olorunnimbe (January 24, 2003). "Battle of Generals". Vanguard.

Why is Buhari so loud on CPC's logo being absent in some states (even though it it known to toddlers that INEC's problems were of a logistical nature)?

Why is the same Buhari so quiet that toddlers are voting in his state, maybe even in the ward where he would have voted?

I expect his supporters here to attempt putting up a a civilised defense, instead of denigrating the OP. But is they choose to, its their call, most NLers only pass through to read, but they see the bullying tactics from the same set of people ALL the time, even worse, they see how the bullies doggedly avoid the topic at hand and insult others instead.

Passers by see how when you stick to your guns and refuse to budge, the likes of Pataki begin to defend their "intelligence." Can you simply leave your so called "intelligence" aside? It isn't the damn topic.

The question is not going anywhere, no matter the amount of dodging and stone throwing. It is simply, [size=14pt]why is the loud Buhari so quiet about child voters in his state? Is that not rigging? Is it not serious?[/size]

[size=14pt]Jonathan Maintains Lead, PDP May Lose More States[/size]
07 Apr 2011
President Goodluck Jonathan

By Collins Edomaruse

With nine days to the presidential election, President Goodluck Jonathan, the candidate of the ruling Peoples Democratic Party (PDP), is most likely to win at first ballot, going by the latest results from the poll conducted for THISDAY by Ipsos, the world’s leading market research company.

But on the down side, the ruling party may lose more than the five states earlier predicted in the governorship election as voters continue to make their decisions ahead of the polls.
In the survey conducted nationwide between March 20 and April 4 – the second wave in the series – 62.1 per cent of the respondents said they would vote for Jonathan, representing a marginal 1.8 percentage point increase above the previous poll conducted between February 25 and March 16, 2011 and published on March 21.

Major General Muhammadu Buhari (rtd) of the Congress for Progressive Change (CPC) came second with 23.6 per cent (up from 22.4 per cent in the first wave), Malam Nuhu Ribadu of the Action Congress of Nigeria (ACN) scored 6 per cent (up from 4.7 per cent), and Malam Ibrahim Shekarau of the All Nigeria Peoples Party (ANPP) got 1.9 per cent (down from 5.9 per cent). Undecided dropped from 6.4 per cent to 6.2 per cent.

Going by the nationwide results, the presidential race is now effectively between Jonathan and Buhari, with Ribadu and Shekarau failing to record any significant improvement among the polled electorate.
The results show that Jonathan could win in all the geo-political zones, except North-west where Buhari is strongest.
Jonathan has clear leads in 25 states – Abia, Adamawa, Akwa Ibom, Anambra, Bayelsa, Benue, Cross River, Delta, Ebonyi, Edo, Ekiti, Enugu, Gombe, Imo, Kaduna, Kogi, Kwara, Lagos, Nasarawa, Ogun, Ondo, Oyo, Plateau, Rivers and Taraba, and FCT. He holds narrow leads in two states – Bauchi and Osun – but has lost his lead in Niger to Buhari, although he gained Bauchi and Ekiti during the period.
Buhari holds clear leads in six states – Borno, Jigawa, Kano, Kebbi, Yobe and Zamfara – and narrow leads in three – Katsina, Niger and Sokoto.

The winner of the presidential election is required to score a simple majority of votes in addition to a minimum of 25 per cent in at least 24 states of the federation.
Going by the results of the survey, Jonathan will score at least 25 per cent in 32 states and FCT. He may however fail to hit the percentage in four states – Jigawa, Kano, Kebbi and Yobe.
It may be an uphill task for Buhari who is likely to meet the requirement in only 14 states and FCT, while failing in 22 states. Instructively, he did not score 25 per cent of the polled samples in any of the 17 Southern states.

He may also fail to meet the requirement in five Northern states, namely Adamawa, Benue, Kogi, Kwara and Taraba.
In the governorship, PDP could lose as many as six states – up from five predicted in the last wave of polling. It was predicted two weeks ago that PDP could lose five states in the governorship election—Bauchi, Bayelsa, Benue, Imo and Kebbi.
However, the latest results show that while PDP could win 16 states, it could as well lose six states to the opposition, while another four hang in the balance.

For now, Bauchi is off the danger list for the PDP, but Ogun, Kwara, Kaduna and Nasarawa are endangered.
Kwara is tilting towards ACN, Kaduna and Nasarawa towards CPC. Although PDP is recovering lost ground in Delta and Kebbi, the leads are so marginal that it could swing either way. Democratic Peoples Party (DPP) is breathing down the neck of PDP in Delta while in Kebbi, the CPC is giving the party a run for its money.

Five states currently controlled by the PDP are too close to call – Adawama, which is a three-horse race involving PDP, CPC and ACN; Ebonyi, where ANPP is making a strong showing; Oyo, where again ACN is pushing forward; and Plateau, where the Deputy Governor, Pauline Tallen, who is running on the platform of Labour Party (LP), is doing very well.
ACN is gaining significantly across the states, notably Ogun and Kwara. In Ogun, the party is in clear lead ahead of the PDP, while in Kwara, it seems Saraki, the father and the son, may have to join forces to ward off the third force. Dr. Olusola Saraki is backing the Allied Congress Party of Nigeria (ACPN) candidate, Senator Gbemisola Saraki, while Governor Bukola Saraki is backing the PDP candidate, Alhaji AbdulFatah Ahmed.

Ipsos conducted 8,289 face-to-face and 3,270 telephonic interviews for this study.
Interviews were conducted with Nigerian adults aged 18+ who are registered to vote in the elections in April 2011.
The fieldwork was conducted from March 20th to April 4th by means of in-home interviews by trained Ipsos interviewers. The face-to-face sample was drawn from a stratified random selection of sampling points across all states in Nigeria. Telephonic fieldwork was conducted by means of re-contacting a panel of respondents who agreed to partake in this polling study after an earlier representative face-to-face survey. Quotas were set by state.

Overall data are weighted to match the profile of the population.
Interviews were conducted in all 36 states of the federation and the FCT. The interviews were conducted in the language of choice of the respondents: English, Pidgin, Igbo, Yoruba or Hausa.
All sample surveys are subject to statistical error, depending on sample size, interviewing methodology and response rate.
The margin of error for this poll is 0.93. This means that in 95 out of every 100 cases, the findings will fall within +/- 0.93 per cent range when looking at the national results. Base sizes for individual states vary but are much lower which means that the margin of error is wider for state results.
On a state level, the margin of error varies between +/- 5.8 per cent and +/- 6.3 per cent.

States PDP May Lose

BAYELSA
Silva PDP 34%
Alaibe LP 47%
Undecided 19%

BENUE
Suswam PDP 20%
Ugbah ACN 76%
Saror ANPP 1%
Undecided 3%

IMO
Ohakim PDP 21%
Araraume ACN 9%
Okorocha APGA 54%
Undecided 14%

KWARA
Ahmed PDP 34%
Belgore ACN 41%
Saraki ACPN 12%
Undecided 12%

NASARAWA
Doma PDP 39%
Almakura CPC 45%
Aboki LP 9%
Undecided 8%

OGUN
Olurin PDP 24%
Amosun ACN 55%
Isiaka PPN 4%
Undecided 16%


Who Would You Vote For?

Jonathan
62.1%

Buhari
23.6%

Ribadu
6%

Shekarau
1.9%

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http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/jonathan-maintains-lead-pdp-may-lose-more-states/89182/

The metroline was about the industrialisation of Lagos, urban regeneration, opening up new areas for development and taking weight of the roads and bridges that lead across the lagoon.

In lean times, forward looking govts look to such projects, because of the massive economic benefits to be ripped. The perfect example, is the Marshall Plan for the rebuilding of Europe after the destruction and impoverishment caused by WWII. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_plan

Belgian economic historian Herman Van der Wee concludes the Marshall Plan was a "great success":
"It gave a new impetus to reconstruction in Western Europe and made a decisive contribution to the renewal of the transport system, the modernization of industrial and agricultural equipment, the resumption of normal production, the raising of productivity, and the facilitating of intra-European trade"

-Tom Buchanan, Europe's Troubled Peace 1945–2000, (2006) ch 1