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Give up, you have failed to understand the simple mechanics of democracy. No one fears a democratic leader.
The type of leader people fear are those like Idi Amin, Seargent Doe, Charles Taylor etc. Flesh eaters and men to be feared indeed. We live in civilised times please.
Your idea of democracy is confused and meaningless. Democracy is government for the people and by the people.

simplychic:
@Beaf
I never knew that you can change like this considering how you cried on this forum everyday when Late Yar Adua was the president of this country,you come up here everyday to call him a weak and non intelligent man,now that your so called Brother Jonathan is there you keep praising him for nothing that he has done.
Look leave these people and allow them to say their opinion and truly your brother Jonathan is a very weak and a dumb head President am sure he won't last.

How you de my sista? If only you could see through my eyes.
Anyway, one thing I never ever took part in (in fact it irritated me), was calling Yar Adua names. The yarafool, yaradull thing was for others, I belkieve this is the first time I am even typing such words.

Among the front runners in the Presidential race, Jonathan is the only person with Nigerias interest at heart.
Jonathan is a Godsend that represents the beginning of several positive possibilities for Nigeria. He represents the opening of long locked gates, the overturning of backward, selfserving cabals and principalities. Jonathan has the keys.

[size=14pt]Nigeria's economy: headed for the G20?[/size]
Africa's economic powerhouse is booming, but serious problems persist.
https://www.globalpost.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/user_thumb/Drew%20Hinshaw1.png
(Akintunde Akinleye/Reuters) LAGOS, Nigeria — While the G20 leaders huddle in Seoul, what may soon be the world's fastest growing economy is a continent away in Nigeria.

The West African nation could be the world’s next emerging giant — or its next giant emergency.

Nigeria is "in a position to be a part of the G20," Secretary of State Hillary Clinton told reporters last year, "but the corruption reputation, it's a problem."

Her perspective is hardly novel. On a continent whose collective economy is now expanding faster than all but China and India, Nigeria has long loomed as a metaphor for Africa’s immense potential and its daunting problems.

“Nigeria is pivotal to the fortunes of sub-Saharan Africa,” said Razia Khan, an economist at Standard Chartered Bank. “It is the Africa story in a way no other economy can claim to be.”

But since May, when Nigeria's ailing president Umaru Yar'adua died in office, the continent’s second largest economy has tiptoed nearer to boom times — as well as catastrophe — than at any moment since its 1970s oil windfall, according to analysts.

Currently, Nigeria’s macroeconomic math augurs well.

The International Monetary Fund estimates the economy is growing at 7 percent annually, a burst of economic lightspeed that “represents serious inroads against poverty,” and will continue next year, according to the fund’s Deputy Director for Africa, Mark Plant.

Nigeria's Gross Domestic Product, at $353.2 billion, is the largest on the continent and with 155 million people, it is Africa's most populous nation.

Nigeria's mobile phone industry is Africa’s fastest growing, while internet access — three out of 10 Nigerians have it — soars beyond rates anywhere else below the Sahara. Nigeria's film industry has achieved significant growth, too.

Then there’s cement: The country’s kilns are churning hundreds of millions of dollars of the stuff to supply West Africa’s construction boom.

Plus, Nigeria’s auspiciously named President Goodluck Jonathan boasts a electricity reform “roadmap” he says will reduce the country’s infamous blackouts to a historical memory — a reform that, by itself, could further gas growth to 10 percent annually, according to the Finance Ministry.

That kind of double-digit surge could make Nigeria the world's fastest growing major economy, China and India included — which means the ministry’s forecast raises as many eyebrows as expectations.

“Of this 10 percent growth, where’s it going to come from?” asked Jenny Kehl, global development professor at Rutgers University, and a self-identified skeptic of Nigeria’s new hype.

Beyond cement, the country’s feeble manufacturing base suffers intractable snags like gridlocked ports and threadbare roads. That’s why Nigeria’s rise would likely mimic India’s, rather than industrial China’s, said Andrew Alli, CEO of the African Finance Corporation.

Meanwhile, the Nigerian financial system is still convalescing from 2008’s near-total collapse of lending and there has been a chronic credit crunch for the small businesses and farmers fueling Nigeria’s current 7 percent expansion.

“The banks grew hugely until 2008 without lending to small businesses, they fell apart in 2008 and 2009 without lending to small businesses, and are recovering in 2010 without lending to small businesses,” said economist David Asserkoff. “That’s unlikely to change in the next two to three years.”

Even Nigeria's infamous oil sector, besieged by rebels and new regulations, is somehow producing near capacity, Kehl notes.

“Growth is going to have to come from foreign investment,” she said “But politics in Nigeria is volatile. Political stability is more important to investors than economic stability.”

If that’s true, then the bankrollers of Nigerian growth have a full newsfeed of headlines to fret over, starting with the January through March pogroms between Muslims and Christians that kill hundreds.

The north’s militant Islamic sect Boko Haram — “Western Education is Sin” — has attacked schools, police stations and jails in a war to impose fundamentalist law. The militia may not reflect the views of the country’s vast Muslim population — Africa’s largest — but that reputation wasn’t helped when a 23-year-old Detroit-bound Nigerian attempted to detonate a bomb in his underwear last Christmas.

Last month’s car bomb that killed 12 on Nigerian independence day came from a wholly unrelated group of anti-oil industry rebels who have disrupted shipping lanes as far south as Angola.

Meanwhile, 2011 is an election year, possibly Nigeria’s most contentious ever, Kehl said.

“China didn’t have these kinds of obstacles,” she said.

Nor did China and India face as much competition, she added.

“Nigeria has a lot more competition. Beyond oil, what are the competitive advantages that it has compared to South Africa, Bolivia, or even China?”

Youth, might be Ben Fisher’s response to Kehl’s rhetorical question.

The author of a British Council demographic study on the nation of 150 million views the four out of 10 Nigerians who have yet to turn 16 as the country’s secret weapon — or ticking timebomb, “a make-it-or-break-it generation.”

“If we look at similar models such as India or Pakistan, we have seen a huge amount of economic growth if the correct policies are in place to enable those people to enter the workplace,” he said.

And yet, he noted, the country’s education seems poised to fail its future workforce, with too little funding for vocation programs, scant space in crowded university lecture halls and almost no government support for Nigeria’s flourishing fashion and film industries.

“There a huge amount of young people without access to work or to expressing themselves politically,” he said. “Obviously, this could spill over into unrest.”

Jonathan’s roadmap to a thrumming electric grid might not solve such intrinsic dilemmas, Asserkoff said, because electricity would boost worker productivity more than increase jobs.

But if the country is accomplishing 7 percent growth on long odds and diesel generators, he projects it could easily hit 10, even 12 percent growth amid a wind of reform.

“You don’t have to make everything perfect,” he said. “But you have to make progress.”


http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/nigeria/101110/nigerias-economy-the-worlds-fastest-growing

[size=14pt]Nationwide black-out continues – PHCN workers[/size]
Headlines Nov 11, 2010 By Victor Ahiuma-Young

Twenty four hours after the three-day warning strike by labour over minimum wage was suspended on the first day of the strike, workers of the Power Holding Company of Nigeria, PHCN, Thursday, alerted that most parts of the country will continue to experience black-out because armed soldiers have continued to occupy the PHCN’s installations and stations.

The workers named the power stations under occupation to include Egbin Power Station, Ikeja West Power Station, Ayede Power Station in Ibadan, Oyo State, Benin Power Station, Kano Zonal Office, Kianji and Jebba Power Stations and Gomo Power Stations in Kwara State.

In a statement in Lagos, the workers said that immediately organised labour called off its warning strike to compel the Federal Government to implement the N18.000 new Minimum Wage on Wednesday, armed military personnel were dispatched to PHCN installations nationwide, allegedly on the orders of the President.

PHCN workers in the statement titled: “ Military men continues to occupy PHCN stations”, said: “It has become expedient to explain to the public why electric power supply has not been fully restored to some parts of the country after the warning strike by NLC has been called off. At the end of the strike action, armed military personnel were dispatched to PHCN installations nationwide, arguably on the orders of the President, Dr. Goodluck Jonathan.

The armed military men’s continued occupation of PHCN installations and intimidation of PHCN staff even after the supposed three (3) days warning strike by the NLC had been called off is affecting the psyche of the workers and would be counter productive in a normal working environment.”

Besides, the Soldiers are equally indulged in undue harassment and intimidation of the innocent and vulnerable workers who are emotionally traumatized at their presence.”

“It is therefore regrettable to inform the public on the seeming delay in fully restoring electric power supply to some parts of the country. This is actually caused by the presence of these armed Military personnel in those affected areas. We therefore demand and appeal to the relevant authorities to immediately withdraw these Armed Military Personnel to enable the workers return fully to their base and continue their operations without undue intimidation and harassment.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2010/11/nationwide-black-out-continues-phcn-workers/

DapoBear:
How does that increase yield exponentially? It is just a harvester, from what I see? Labor is cheap anyway in Nigeria, how does that help? What I'd want it something that increases the size of my bananas, for example. Or makes them require less water/nutrients/etc.

My bad for answering poorly, I'm just rushing through NL at the mo. What I should have said was, the invention will decrease the manpower and costs.

[quote author=Aloy+Emeka link=topic=549519.msg7124301#msg7124301 date=1289503275]There is nothing wrong with them. The only thing wrong is they don't have what they need to produce food in large quantity unlike the Western farmers. An Igbo engineer  I know in Lagos left his oil company job to do fish farming in large scale. He was successful until his fishing business started failing and I asked him what the problem is and he said : Their food is expensive and there is this alga that poisons the fishes often and some of the pesticides they buy are imported and most times, they don't work because oyibo manufactured the pesticide for their environmental pests. To successfully deal with those ones in naija, he contemplated taking the poisoned water to a company in China so they can analyse the alga and find the right solution but it will be very expensive because they said that he will have to fund the research and there are no assurances. He turned the banks for about N30M loan so as to fund it and if it becomes successful, the bank can take 80% of the proceeds but no bank agreed to take such risks. He also said that if he can find funding, he will start producing their food locally because they locally produced one they have now is not as good as the imported ones.[/quote]You are so wrong as far as bananas are concerned! Nigerians fail to look within for solutions because of a pervading inferiority complex.

We have a banana and plantain harvester here; http://afrosciencecommunity.com/Invention/Page2
. . .And it is 100% FREE!

If Nigerians are serious, they would take a good look at what is there, produce the damn machines and increase banana and plantain crop yield exponecially. The plan is there, free for anybody to look at and run with.

[quote author=haka_nai link=topic=547961.msg7123065#msg7123065 date=1289492307]You wish! alot of us would embrace life transformer than let that happen. In your case i could say we don't have to come to you because anything issued by will do us no good except kill/destroy us.I mean to say you are a[b] certified Northern Hater![/b]!!!! [/quote]Funny guy.
If there wasn't free oil money and things were still regional, would there be 10 million almajiri's? The population of 120 of 192 countries in the World is less than or equal to 10 million.
I don't hate Northerners, what I hate is the unfeeling elite that impoverish their own and threaten the unity of the country if they don't get their way.

Stop being sentimental and confront your issues frontally. Attacking those who point out a hidden crisis of garangantuan proportions is the cowardly way out.

calyx:
This is clearly a battle am sure you cannot win. Goodluck Jonathan is NOT the leader leader Nigeria needs at this time.

Nigeria at this point of her transition needs a strong and assertive leader. Decisive, Organised, Proactive, Disciplined, Logical. . .I could go on. Jonathan unfortunately does not have any of the qualities Nigeria needs now and does not appear to have the ability to learn effectively on the Job.

Its refreshing to know that more and more Nigerians are beginning to see through the Jonathan-is-God's-anointed gibberish

I think you are missing the point here. All you have done is repeat the same old mantra (without any proof whatsoever) that has roundly and repeatedly defeated here. Accusations require proof and what has been proferred so far on this thread points to the incongruity that some folk actually crave for a dictator in a democracy.

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In my opinion, the sort of person that exudes fear, is a dictator, an armed robber, murderer, despoiler etc. If our democracy is bastardised to the extent that some of us wish for such leaders, then we need to fix the holes in our democracy, not wish for more of the same.

celemel:
@Beaf:
Do you understand the word CHARISMA and the role it plays in leadership? If yes, then juxtapose that with GEJ. Nobody says he should be a dictator. No! Rather, he is not charismatic and that is the reason he is perceived as "weak". You can see, GEJ is clueless about many things because people don't seem to see him as being "in charge". We call it "authority" in governance. He looks as lame-duck as Ernest Shonekan was during the ING era. Pretend as we may, you and I know that nobody is in charge of the apparati of governance in the country now. That is the crux of the matter !

Charisma is a good thing to have, but it is a surface quality. George Bush had all the charisma on Earth, yet ended up a disgrace to America. During the elections, he was seen as the guy you would have a beer with. Now? He is the guy you make fun off.
Judging a package by its looks almost always leads to sorrow. We need to be deep thinkers.

krendo:
BEAF is one of the most bigoted and tribalistic Nairalander that I know.

Yeah, because I am knowledgable enough to counter your obssession with obliterating Niger Deltans instead of seeking sensible, negotiated ways out.
All your posts are about the Niger Delta, yet you are from Sokoto or thereabouts. What a hero you are!

[size=14pt]ICC prosecutor analyses Jos massacre[/size]
Published on : 11 November 2010 - 11:57am | By Thijs Bouwknegt (RNW)

The International Criminal Court (ICC) is looking into potential crimes against humanity committed in Nigeria's Plateau State. The court's prosecutor's office confirmed last week that it is analysing a massacre that killed over 300 people in January.

The killings took place some 30 kilometres south of the city of Jos in Plateau State in central Nigeria, where in January Christian and Muslim mobs went on a rampage with guns, knives and machetes.

Analysis
The ICC's decision to launch an examination into possible crimes against humanity follows a petition filed by Nigerian rights organisation the Socio-Economic Rights and Accountability Project (SERAP) to Chief Prosecutor Luis Moreno Ocampo's office in The Hague.

In a letter last week, the prosecutor's office said that investigators are reviewing if there is a reasonable basis to start investigations in Nigeria, which is a state party to the ICC. "Analysis will be carried out as expeditiously as possible," the letter said, but further cautioned, "that meaningful analysis of these factors can take some time."

The ICC further said that it would see whether it has jurisdiction over the crimes committed, and if any Nigerian courts are investigating or prosecuting the atrocities.

Court of last resort
SERAP on January 29th requested the permanent war crimes court prosecutor to “to investigate proprio motu allegations of unlawful killing of at least 326 people and perpetration of other crimes under international law during the violence in January 2010 in Jos, Plateau State of Nigeria; and the reports that the military and police used excessive force against both Christians and Muslims in responding to the violence.”

The ICC is a court of last resort and it can act only if states are unable or refuse to deal with the most serious crimes under international law. SERAP claims that the Nigerian government "in effect, has shown itself unwilling or unable to transparently and effectively investigate and prosecute" the allegations.

Impunity
ERAP lawyer Femi Falana, who had sent the petition to the ICC on behalf of the rights group, welcomed Ocampo's move. "This is fantastic news for the victims of the unlawful killing and other abuses that took place in Jos earlier this year, and previous outbreaks of deadly violence in the city."

"Ending impunity for the cycle of violence in many parts of Nigeria is essential for sustainable peace, stability and security, and for the country's social, economic and political development," Falana said.

After the worst of the mid-January violence in and around the nearby town of Kuru Karama, President Goodluck Jonathan pledged to bring the perpetrators to justice. "Those found to have engineered, encouraged or fanned the embers of this crisis through their actions or pronouncements will be arrested and speedily brought to justice," he said.

But the President's warnings did not prevent fresh atrocities. After his statement, up to 500 people - including women, children and babies - were killed when three villages near Jos were attacked. The attacks are said to have been in revenge for the January massacre.

Decade of violence
Nigeria is deeply divided along ethnic and religious lines. According to Human Rights Watch (HRW), more than 13,500 people have died in religious or ethnic clashes since the end of the military rule in 1999. Plateau state, where Jos is located, lies in the so-called middle belt between the predominantly Muslim north and the mainly Christian south.

(Additional editing: Marijntje Lazet)

http://www.rnw.nl/international-justice/article/icc-prosecutor-analyses-jos-massacre

It is really hard not to see Uduaghan returning, except Delta state goes to ACN. PDP's time is too short to choose someone else and E.K. Clark cannot continue working with ACN people while he is in PDP.

Gbawe:
Nairalanders , do you guys see instant proof of what I said above? I.e Jonathan's fan only engage in spin. This guy in particular is despicable as far as that notion goes . He deliberately tries to paint me in a bad light by mischievously implying that I support a dictatorship when , every Nigerian who knows our problem, and from relevant examples I have given , will understand what I mean i.e that we must have a President our Political leaders will fear to step out of line under because of his unflinching dedication to punish wrongdoing !!! Look at what Gbenga Daniel is doing !!!! Would he try it if we had a President who is known to be ready to deal with leadership misbehaviour that puts the lives and livelyhood of Nigerians in danger?

When we have a Governor (Alao Akala) who should not be Governor because of dishonourable retirement from the Nigerian Police force can we not expect all manners of gangsterism from such a character? Pray tell me Nairalanders do we not need a President who will be "feared" by corrupt, and disgustingly self-serving politicans if Nigeria is to make progress? All in the name of mischief some folks want to spin issues to make Nigeria seem like America . Why will Politicians fear Obama's commitment to uprightness when a well developed system with strong institution [/b]will ensure that the Ogun State type of impeachment cannot be allowed to remain intact? Do we have the same in Nigeria? In the absence of such a system , and given our unique situation of unacceptably high political corruption , must we not have a President who is feared by our politicians who are , in the majority, self-serving and corrupt individual [b]who will deliberately do wrong if their is no fear of certain punishment?

Hello, kind sir!

Stop waxing hysterical!
These are your own words below (not mine), would you mind explaining them? As far as I know, it is only in a dictatorship that the leader must be feared. Do you mind explaining why you think that should obtain in a democracy? I fear you have no understanding of how democracies operate, defend yourself:

Gbawe:
My friend, abeg don't misquote me. You fail to understand my argument. I never said might is right but we do not need a weak leader who lets every do as they please while dangerous precedents are set everywhere !!! That Jonathan failed to get his way is no indicator of how democratic he is . He is simply not sagacious, respected or feared by anyone as a President should be . If you claim Jonathan's losses are good for democracy what do you say about his deliberate failure to deal with gansterism as openly perpetrated by Gbenga Daniel in Ogun State with the impeachment debacle? 9 lawmakers impeached 15 and 10 Governors attempted to overule 26 while the Reps and senators are drafting all sort of odious bills , detrimental to Nigeria's development, that gives them unacceptable advantage with impugnity , etc , etc !!! IMO , anti-democratic behaviour and chaos is growing alarmingly under GEJ's leadership of Nigeria.

It is only GEJ supporters who would have us believe weakness, our feral politicians are now capitalising on, is "democratic behaviour" . In any case we have seen Jonathan behaving openly anti-democratic so please let us stop pushing the democracy angle . It can't fly and it actually sounds hypocritical to me.

If you do not understand how a democracy operates, it follows that your analysis is crooked and confused.

Mai Suya:
Its unfortunate, but 'excessive use of force'' is the only language Nigerians understand and respect.

What offense did the Judge commit for her to have been treated in such a manner? Is she the Federal government? In the 'more sane society' you described above, would striking workers exhibit such behaviors?

I beg to disagree. The majority of Nigerians need councelling to negate the traumatic effects of years of brutal military rule and a winner takes all society; they surely do not need more violence.
An area boy needs more hugs than he needs slaps, think about it.

Hamid O:
In concrete terms, can you tell us the amount of electricity we were generating before GEJ came in and were we are right now. It seems there are somethings you see on GEJ that a lot of us don't. The so called generator mafia is still having a swell time if you don't know. Get this right GEJ is good when compared to people like IBB and Atiku.
Don't forget that billions of Naira is still been sunk in the power sector with practical results.
At least obj brought some very good hands to work in administration, the last time I checked a lot of the current ministers are old and clueless like GEJ himself.
GEJ is not the best for us right now.

Have you witnessed the fightback from dark forces who have coopted "unions" over the sweet prospects in the power sector? That shows you that for the first time, there is actual movement on the ground to give us electricity. The mafia have not yet been defeated, but they will soon be consigned to the rubbish heap like the fuel mafia. Things are happening before our very eyes that cannot be denied, it will not take a day for the power supply issues to be righted, nevertheless we can observe definite actions and the fightback of those that have either held the country in darkness or in whose interest it is that the country is in darkness; the transformer sellers, meter sellers and other thieves.

You surely cannot argue that you aren't a witness to the current battles.

Gbawe:
My brother they will not respond because all they engage in is constant spin of what we can all see glaringly . Jonathan is acting "democratically" when we can see, in reality, he is as undemocratic and as callously calculating as they come. As someone said above , did Jonathan not force Ogbulafor out , with a corruption case, only to replaced him with a man (Nwodo) with an even greater propensity for corruption? The Difference ? Ogbulafor was for zoning while Nwodo is ready to say and do anything Jonathan wan'ts . Is that democratic behaviour? Why is Jonathan unhappy to have his fate , in the PDP Primaries, be decided by card carry voting members of the PDP alone? Why should his appointees be allowed to vote in the PDP Primaries? Does IBB, Atikua and Gusau have political appointees loyal to them ? Is the advantage Jonathan is trying to gain not condemnably anti-democratic? There are many examples of anti-democratic behaviour and fans of Jonathan should refrain from portraying him a a dedicated democrat because that seems like wild fabrication given all we are seeing from Jonathan .

Like I surmised correctly , what Gbenga Daniel has gotten away with has led to an increase in gangster behaviour everywhere. It is getting ridiculous.

You made a comment a few posts back, that the President needs to be feared. . . In a democracy!
Can you explain why?

You seem very confused in your assessment of Jonathan. This minute he is weak, next minute he is draconian, after that he is not feared. Can you explain?

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Clap for yourself!
Your apology is accepted.

redsun:
I think we just ve sissy arse,retarded and opportunistic hoodlums parading as generals and admirals in naija

I have noticed that everybody is retarded to you, aside from those abroad who love-vendor out their wives for the green card.
Abeg go and hide and stop creating dumb threads.

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Dude you sound that lil bit extremist.

Gbawe:
My friend, abeg don't misquote me. You fail to understand my argument. I never said might is right but we do not need a weak leader who lets every do as they please while dangerous precedents are set everywhere !!! That Jonathan failed to get his way is no indicator of how democratic he is . He is simply not sagacious, respected or feared by anyone as a President should be . If you claim Jonathan's losses are good for democracy what do you say about his deliberate failure to deal with gansterism as openly perpetrated by Gbenga Daniel in Ogun State with the impeachment debacle? 9 lawmakers impeached 15 and 10 Governors attempted to overule 26 while the Reps and senators are drafting all sort of odious bills , detrimental to Nigeria's development, that gives them unacceptable advantage with impugnity , etc , etc !!! IMO , anti-democratic behaviour and chaos is growing alarmingly under GEJ's leadership of Nigeria.

It is only GEJ supporters who would have us believe weakness, our feral politicians are now capitalising on, is "democratic behaviour" . In any case we have seen Jonathan behaving openly anti-democratic so please let us stop pushing the democracy angle . It can't fly and it actually sounds hypocritical to me.

You have simply confirmed the much aired opinion here that you are canvassing the position that might is right. In what democratic country have you heard that the President is feared?
You are simply confirming that you do not have a grounded understanding of the workings of a democracy, and wish to have a dictator manning the reigns of power. Someone who will utter a few words and the populace will cower in fear and terror. Sorry, but that does not happen in a democracy. The problem with a lot of Nigerians is that they grew up under military regimes and are stuck in the "I will show you and lock up your family", "do you know who I am" World. That is so yesterday, we live in a new democratic and fearless World.

In a democracy, things are done by consensus, not out of fear of the leader. For Nigeria to develop, we need to all develop an understanding of how a democracy works; it is our system of government.
I repeat, fear has no place in a democracy, which is indeed, a government by the people, for the people.

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Sharrap dia!

Can you not reason logically instead of bouncing up and down in pure sentiment?
All threats of violence to make this country ungovernable have come from Ciroma, Kaita, Yakasai and the other bats in their gang. That is the reason for the hypothesis that this new MEND that can't even spell Niger Delta could well be an aboki MEND. Damn! Even oyibo people have done some background research and concluded that the new "Jomo Gbomo" is fake, a mere pretender who speaks bad English.

supereagle:
Was It not the time of OBJ we had Sharia in this country ? Was is not his time Ghali Nabba shook him to the foundation? Have forgotten Senator Waku? Yet OBJ is a strong man.
Some fools still think we are in Military regime in this country.
It is now we are seeing democracy in Action.

Don't mind them. You will notice that the people who go on and on about "weak" are simply folk who keep reciting the same old thing, hoping it will stick. But it won't, because the masses can see. It is the same old mantra the cabal tried, but today where are they? It is the same old mantra Ciroma sings even in his tortured dreams, and he is rightly viewed as a failure who is off his rocker.

It is funny, because GEJ has turned out to be quite a strong leader who has an ear always open for the people. Has anybody forgotten the reorganisation of the army, the surmmary defeat of the fuel mafia (same way the generator mafia is facing doom)? Tell me if anybody before him could do these things he has achieved in a few months.
Today, we are all gripped by the battles raging around the privatisation of PHCN, the only reason for that is that for once, we have a man of the masses at the helm of affairs. A man who for the first time in our sorry past, is confident and tenacious enough to take on the generator and fuel mafia's on behalf of the people.

Go GEJ! We de your back.

Kobojunkie:
That you do not realize how stupidly absurd that request of yours was goes to confirm my fears . . . you are far gone, and will probably not get your head back on right until the bottom drops out on your fantastically opaque world of yours. It will probably do me good to go back to not responding to your attempts to gain my attention with insults and childish silliness . . . playtime is over now! I need to get back to conversing with real people out there. You have a good one in your twilight world, you hear now.

No, it is you who doesn't realise that claiming to know what you don't makes you a fool. You have already been proven a fool over your manic and hysterical claims that Chima Orlu and Ben Jessy do not exist, but were made up by the SSS. Now that its been proven that they exist, you look like the fool you always were.

Now I have given you a rope to hang yourself. The test is simply; tell us why the people who committed the Warri bombing are not the same as those who committed the Abuja bombings. And do it with evidence so no one concludes you are a fool.

Of course, you have failed woefully, instead here you are coughing like a donkey and running away.

ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!

[quote author=na2day! link=topic=548970.msg7118980#msg7118980 date=1289440393]. . .
Focus of the Force

The Quds force has four main areas of interest:
Hezbollah operations in Lebanon Nigeria
Iraqi Kurdistan
Kashmir, the Balouch and Afghanistan
And most recently Yemen
. . .[/quote]

Kobojunkie:
CLASSIC BEAF . . . . dude, you never fail to show that you cannot but be the same you. 

WOW !!! ROFLMAO!

So, now I should take the place of the SSS in this  . . . UNBEWEAVABLE!!! CLAP for yourself !

ROFLMAO!!

Ohh! The blinkers have suddenly dropped from your eyes? And you realise you aren't the SSS and don't know jack about the matter? Damn!
Why do you make funny, conclusive statements while you are ignorant of all the facts?

Can you imagine the distance between entering the place with abuse to throwing in the towel like you have above?

We always knew the consignment was meant for Nigeria. Now we need to get to the root of the matter quickly.

SapeleGuy:
Aboki MEND - You no easy at all!

I think we may be violently agreeing here. Resource control is the overriding theme, that is why nations go to war and that is what is keeping Nigeria one, without the black stuff this nation would have scatterred long time ago.

The motivation for this set up is simple and political, to discredit MEND is to discredit the whole Niger Delta agitation and consequently any candidate from that region. Who stands to gain the most from discreditting the South South?

MEND have been victims of identity theft (New MEND) and Okah has stepped on too many toes - one issue is an internal struggle and the other is an external attack. It is convenient to try and merge both issues but they are not dependent.

Ok, I get you now. Lol @ "violently agreeing".

Kobojunkie:
I am sorry, who exactly begs you to stop? Again, what heat are you speaking of? All I have done is explain to you that the insults do not in anyway validate the nonsense you continue to spew on here. Reality is I do not believe you even make sense to your own self either. Starting your posts with insults and signing off with yet more insults only go to reveal you know what the problem is with your reasoning, and I am just explaining that continuing isn’t helping either.
ROFLMAO!!!
See, I have mostly stayed away from conversing with you in your current state because I still remember when you used to make sense and have held out hope that you would one day go back to being INTELLIGENT again.
In the world you live in today, does the SSS or any other such agency go about flinging around claims without providing some support for claims made? Let me guess, you are going to LIE that the FBI acts legitimately in such an incompetent manner, and so it is OK for the Nigerian SSS to go around doing the same? Yes, I have watched your ways and have come to expect this from you.
Here is the problem with minds like yours . . . you are far gone. So, asking that parties leveling accusations provide corroborating evidence means I am taking sides in much the same way as numbskulls like you continue to? WOW!! And here I once thought you were actually educated enough to know that justice is not about sides but the right thing no matter what parties are involved.
NOW more ramblings from the fart brain . . . what the crud are you going on about now? ROFLMAO!!

Dude, allow me make your task really easy. Tell us why the people who committed the Warri bombing are not the same as those who committed the Abuja bombings. And do it with evidence so no one concludes you are a fool. That has already been done with the Chima Orlu and Ben Jessy matter (you still seem rather shy to talk about their confirmed existence ).

PS; when you come in abusing people, don't beg when they give it right back.

ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dem wan niked Asiwaju?!

Kobojunkie:
The insulting language only further drives home the fact that you have lost it and have nothing tangible to offer in line of reasoning. I suggest you start working on learning to deal with FACTS rather than the silly conjectures you keep cooking up, and have somehow convinced yourself make you seem more intelligent than you really are.

Again, READ your posts at least to figure out why it is mostly filled with the nonsensical drivels of an im-becile. The SSS has yet to provide, you or the nation actual evidence for any of the accusations made so far. Not even the courts in South Africa have much else to work with to this point but the words of the force to this day. I am not sure what part of that your brain has a serious problem understanding there.


Again,continuing to insult me or anyone else will not help you!

You're so funny! You checked into the thread with insults, now you are begging not to be insulted back. Na wa!
If you can't take heat, don't give it.

People like you just talk rubbish with confidence about things they have no idea about. You actually expect the SSS to provide you with every detail of what they have in a case in court? How daft is that?

In your weak and tired opinion, you feel that there is no evidence to go on in SA? Yet the case is ungoing and your new love, Henry Okah is suddenly swearing affidavits saying that Chima Orlu lived in his house. Not stopping there, Okah also produced Ben Jessys phone number in court out of thin air! Yet according to your cement headed analysis, there was nothing to pressure these surprise actions from him.
Need I remind you that Chima Orlu and Ben Jessy are the very guys you fools declared were phantoms conjured up by the SSS?

ROFLMAO!!!!

First test for Atahiru.
I find it difficult to see how Uduaghan wouldn't win it, especially if he makes concessions to those calling for his head. The time is too short for PDP to make a gamble, except they can choose someone else to carry their banner pretty sharpish.

Kobojunkie:
Seriously, you need to get your head checked. What connection has what you have above to what was posted?
Trust me, insulting me will not take away from the fact that you sound like a directionless imbe-cile right now. The article there states the SSS are trying to link the same Okah to March 14th and claiming the SAME GROUP of people were responsible for the October 1st, and you are asking what? Are you alright? You need to go get checked dude and drop that chip you have there on your shoulder.  It is ok to admit when you are clueless . . .  continuing with the drivel does not help much.

I know stup!dity can be an impediment to logical thinking, but you need to get over it. Fools like you were around screaming as loudly as their unicellucar brains would allow them, that Chima Orlu and Ben Jessy were made up; suddenly, the chief suspect produces phone numbers and swears an affidavit to say they exist and you dimwits look as stackly numbheaded as you are. But thats not enough for you, you now want to argue that the date of the Warri bombs should be shifted (or something similarly dim).

Dunce.

ROFLMAO!!!

May the gentle soul of the peaceful man who demanded human rights without recurse to violence, rest in peace.