₦airaland Forum

Kobojunkie:
^^^ Says the fool who did not even bother to read his own post. The article tells you the SAME PEOPLE were responsible for the Oct 1st bombing.

ROFLMAO!!

SapeleGuy:
The strategy is to criminalise and emasculate the south south at every opportunity be this politically, economically, socially and ideologically.

The tactics of this plan are very simple - cloud the resource control and environmental degradation cause with cries of terrorism and criminality and shackle the  business and political leaders of the region in corruption scandals.

If all the leaders of MEND say no be dem do am, who is this new MEND who claim to have done it.  The goings on in South Africa are nothing short of farcical.

Open your eyes people, Mend have a lot of enemies, Henry Okah has even more enemies than Mend, they have both been set up.

Kobojunkie:
March 14th ke? ROFLMAO!!!

Has any evidence been presented or is this the same old "SPEW CRAP JUST BECAUSE WE CAN" tactic?

Gbawe:
My friend, stop wasting your time responding to what I write. I ignore you for good reason. you are the same uncouth individual that mentioned my mother ungraciously in an online debate !!! Nigerian men are know for their nobility and love/respect for all mothers . Mothers , children and wives should be off limit for Nigerian men who are have been brought up well. We save the insults and blows for each other as men. those who talk like you do are those brought up by area fathers.

I remember a thuggish bin boy insulting my mother outside our Surulere house because she asked him to do a thorough job clearing the rubbish. Folks in the area , because the police were near , all told me to go and get them to lock the thug up for insulting respected "mama" . I just told my mum to go into the house . She has no business talking to those who were brought up as thugs . I have the same opinion of you. In fact , when I remember that uncouth urchin I think he was probably called Beaf.

Abagworo:
Start being realistic and be a man for once.Stand up to the truth.Chima Orlu and Ben Jessy are still yet to be arrested.Okah recognized the picture of the guy as a spy but not the name.

Gbawe:
My brother , much as I respect your reasoning and erudition I think you are guilty of mischief here. You and others , from how you have spoken, have portrayed Ribadu as an incoherent and bumbling speaker. I provide evidence that shows Ribadu speaking like a leader with charisma, passion and panache yet all you highlight from that post is the most miniscule point in my writing. We are debating about Ribadu's articulation . When you write that I talk about those who can win elections you seem to indicate that you have jettisoned the original debate in favour of something diversionary !!!

Gbawe:
Everyone on this forum will know that I use the word pragmatism endlessly . It is because I see it as apt in the case of Nigeria. We can be here all day long drooling about Utomi , Duke , perfect orators, uber economic analyst and suave operators . If their ambition is dead on arrival , for many reasons I do not need to point out to someone of your intelligence, when does our sense of intellectual pragmatism kick in as per our responsbility to make the best choice for Nigeria given the conditions on the ground today that dictate what is possible ? Why don't you start a thread about donald Duke and see how much interest it gets from nairalanders ?

Nigeria has suffered a lot. Nigerians have suffered a lot. it is then important that every Nigerian looks at the situation on ground, eschew idealism , embrace pragmatism, and think in terms of ensuring we gain the best President possible from those who have political visibility and can genuinely contest. you speak about Duke constantly. Believe me , he is the choice of intellectual like yourself alone. Even GEJ will trounce him senseless in free and fair elections. That is symbolic of the poor political maturity of many Nigerians.We cannot wish political sophistication on millions of folks overnight even if we ourselves are consummate and erudite political analysts.

We should stop the needless display of idealism . it will get Nigeria nowhere. Please vote for Donald Duke. It is your prerogative. Some of us understand that the need to defeat the PDP is not about unfruitful idealism. Of those who can win Ribadu is the best choice. We can all feel intellectually smug voting for our dream candidate who has a zero chance of winning but , as per the wasted vote, it will be our beloved nation that will suffer if we do not considered a flawed gem , with a good chance , who will undoubtedly move us forward in comparison to other contestants.

frosbel:
Could this be a warm up for Iran ?

lol,v

krendo:
Is Sapeleguy less of a Delta man for speaking the truth? NO

Some people think they must support anything and everything just because their kinsman is the President.

Nigeria belongs to us all, Jonathan will come and go?

Hello krendo! Please lets look at my aboki / Ciroma hypothesis instead of going off on a tangent.

Do you remember when there were loud and ignorant arguments that Ben Jessy and Chima Orlu were fake? Well surprise! Surprise! henry Okah has both given witness in court as well as signed a sworn affidat to the effect that he knows both men! It would please you to know that both these bombers are not members of MEND (of course, they might be members of an aboki version though).

oyb:
if i post article beaf will start blathering the way he did yesterday - best to let him run unclothed in the marketplace as usual

InesQor:
Hi Beaf. I am a PHP programmer, roughly 5 years of serious experience with that. For 8 months now, I have been silently observing you mentioning C# and ASP.NET as a far better alternative in terms of performance and all that, I investigated the claims and found out they are true but was too busy/lazy to move into gear. . . but I think I have finally had enough.

I'm starting with C# / ASP.NET tomorrow (I ordered some training material already), and for one of my first projects, I will be working on a social network system with an educational bias. Thanks for all the insight (you never know who has been silently following your posts, right? Hehehe).

Thanks again.

oyb:
did your super sss not tell sa that okah is the leader of mend

or is your short term memory even more shot than you have led us to believe?

oyb:
^^^^

so can we safely assume that beaf who called me all sorts of names when i called mend terrorists for the warri bombings, is now eating his words

df2006:
henry okah personally came in from south africa, for the warri bomb blast, he wired it himself
their goose is sure cooked!!!!

[size=14pt]SSS blames Warri bombing on Okah [/size]
November 10, 2010 06:39PM

The State Security Service (SSS) said yesterday in Abuja that the perpetrators of the October 1 bombings are the same people who carried out a similar attack in Warri, Delta State, on March 15.

The spokesperson of the SSS, Marilyn Ogar, said Henry Okah, who is being tried in South Africa for terrorism, masterminded the earlier bombing at Warri during an amnesty conference last March. She said Mr. Okah owned the cars used in the blasts and on March 14 personally rigged them for use.

``Subsequently, on March 14, 2010, Okah departed the country, apparently to create an alibi for himself over the bombings that eventually took place the next day,`` she said.

Ms Ogar also announced the arrest of the car dealers who allegedly sold Mr okah's aides the cars used for the October 1 bombings in Abuja. The men were arrested from Amuwo Odofin area of Lagos. She said the welder who made the compartments used for housing the bombs in the cars, at the residence of one Charles Okah, in Lagos, had also been arrested.

DapoBear:


I thought you were exaggerating! Man, that is very sad. There are more almajiris in the North than the population of many, many countries.

For the sake of comparison:

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76	 Belgium	10,827,519	January 1, 2010	0.16%	Eurostat estimate
77	 Portugal	10,636,888	January 1, 2010	0.15%	Eurostat estimate
78	 Czech Republic	10,515,818	June, 30 2010	0.15%	Official estimate
79	 Tunisia	10,439,600	July 1, 2009	0.15%	National Statistics Institute of Tunisia
80	 Bolivia	10,426,154	2010	0.15%	

DapoBear:
Where did you get that 10 mil figure from? What is the true population of the northern states, anyway? I would not be surprised if Nigeria has 20 million less people than is claimed. Or are they inflating the north and under-counting the south, while keeping the total accurate?

The only census ever taken was in Kano state, which found in 2006 that there were 1.2 million Almajiri in Kano alone. One researcher working with UNICEF estimates that 60 percent of the children never return home.

[size=14pt]10m Kids Beg In The North – Minister [/size]

Written by Ali Alkali, Kaduna
Sunday, 22 November 2009 19:14

Minister of State for Education,Hajiya Aishatu Jibrin Dukku, at the weekend took a swipe at the educational backwardness in the north, estimating the number of child beggars in the region (almajirai) at more than 10 million.

“We are yet to finish our compilation, but at the moment we have over ten million child beggars roaming our streets, and that’s a conservative estimate,” she said.

She also decried the situation whereby wealthy northerners are not emulating their southern counterparts in investing heavily in education.

Speaking on a live phone-in Hausa programme, ‘Hannu Da Yawa’ on Radio Nigeria, Kaduna, on Saturday, the minister said, “It is very alarming that parents are becoming so insensitive to the welfare of their children that they dispatch them to unknown places to take care of themselves.

"They just send them away without making any arrangement for their feeding, medical care, shelter and other necessities. "Most of these children, because of the harsh realities they found themselves in, end up becoming juvenile delinquents and, subsequently, adult criminals.”

Dukku expressed sadness that such parents are tarnishing the image of Islam and the North. “It is very sad that these kind of negative things are always attributed to us, and are gradually becoming our identity," she said. "All hands must be on deck to clean this mess. States and local governments, with the help of the Federal Government, must bring all the stakeholders together – the parents, the Malams and community leaders – to find a way to stop this show of shame.”

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alj harem:
gbam gbam gbam!!!!

all an average southerner sees is the north having almajiri, desert etc

i bet u they do not know they way they would suffer if we leave nigeria for them

Allah ya sa albarka jumhuriyan arewa

mikeansy:
The future of this country is clearly in danger if this is how the affairs of this country will be conducted.

Like Krendo said, condemning illegality no matter who the perpetrators are whether Northerners or Southerners should be a good starting point and the sought of things Beaf says sometimes makes you cringe.

It was very easy for Beaf to agree the other day that Osisikankwu is a common criminal but I doubt he will be willing to admit that Osisikankwu's boss Ateke Tom is as much a criminal. With an attitude like this we are simply all inviting confusion.

God help our country.

Abagworo:
@beaf.Watch what you say or if once again it is proven that it is not northerners then your credibility is dead.

I tend to believe that you people in Delta State are unaware of the level of militancy in Rivers State riverine areas.

krendo:
Are you saying the new MEND are criminals because they are possibly Aboki?  and the Old MEND are not because they come from the South?

I thought criminality is criminality no matter who the perpetrators are?

We are still talking about blowing up of Oil rigs, kidnapping, gun running, bombings is it not the same thing? what changed?

See how small minded and prejudiced you are Beaf? After you will have the temerity to call others tribalist and yet you suggest the same type of crimes are only criminal when committed by certain people?.

Sorry for Nigeria under GEJ, no wonder he has turned into Jomo Gbomo (MEND spokesman). Is this how your people reason?

Donmeca:
funny enough, people look at the North as one united zone and and south as being made up 3 separate, disjointed zones. They talk about the pact b/w the north and the SS, North and SE, North and SW as if the north is one of only 4 geopolitical zones in the country. But it is more than that, the North has 3 different, maybe overlapping geopolitical zones just like the south and thus their will always be division/discrimination along such lines. Middle belt (North Central) become the weeping boys of Northern politics because the seeming overlapping of the Northern zones does not cover them. This is due to language and religious barriers. We have a lot of tribes in the MB with very many diff languages. . .that are not close to Hausa. Majority of the MBs are also Christians as against the dominant Islam in the North. If they continue to argue north and south zoning, I don't see an MB person in Aso Rock xcpt in case of death or impeachment.

I 'm not a fan of zoning but if we must zone, then the present north-south formula is a fraud. The true zoning I prescribe is among the 6 zones we have (NC, SW, NW, SE, NE and SS). with this arrangement, minorities are sure of going there someday.

oyb:
your saint has the big distended red nose of the alcoholic - better refocus your concerns - a lot of his utterances do come off as those of someone under the influence

oyb:
everyone has given up trying to reason with nls chief gej eater

oyb:
daft double talking eejit go and blow off johnathan ebele azikwe