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Sorry, but Yar Adua achieved exactly nothing. Jonathan has already done more in his 3 months than Yar Adua did in 3 years.
. . .No more "baba go slow" and reciting of the "7 point agenda" while doing nothing.

mikeansy:
Right fair enough, now this is clearer. This is the capacity of the electricity transmission network?

right thats fair enough. We will see, signing off projects is the easy bit, implementation is where the hard work is. We have seen loads of project sign off since independence and the President should know that in this day and age people can monitor progress.

Well done for now while I keep my fingers crossed and see if this amounts to anything.

Yes, its something like the energy carrying capacity of the grid.
As you say; one can only hope and pray that the project will go smoothly once its been kicked off and the trucks start rolling. If it goes well, it could very well change the industrial outlook of the country in a very short time, so fingers crossed.

@mikeansy
I might not have done a good enough job with my explanation above, you might get a better idea from reading this article about China's planned 750-Kilovolt sytem http://www.electricityforum.com/news/jun08/Chinaboostsgridconnections.html

mikeansy:
Right thought u were serious, anyway your joke was funny and appreciated.

@ All

Anyone know the implication of this addition 700-Kilovolt? thats if the project will be delivered.

It is a grid that has the capacity to cater for Nigeria's future needs. It will be robust enough to handle increments in power generation for quite a long time (that depends on the area it covers though).
700 Kilovolts is some really serious transmission line capacity as far as Nigeria is concerned. You will find that most transmission lines around the World are below 350 Kilovolts.

[quote author=Sharon_f link=topic=494924.msg6551264#msg6551264 date=1281482847]Please highlight their key differences. I remember a certain 7 point agenda that has been completely forgotten. . .or was it 9 or 10 point agenda. We forget Johnathan was vice-president to Yar'adua. He was not a different presidential candidate, he is part and parcel of Yar'adua's administration.
Anyway, like I said what is different from the two in your view?[/quote]Some Nigerians are never appreciative of anything and most are crowd followers who will say anything to "seem" cool.

Do you remember the long fuel queues? They were part of everyday life just a few months ago.
Have you not noticed very positive changes to power supply?
Have you not witnessed that for the first time since independence, oil companies have set aside money to tackle oil spills?
Are you not witnessing the sincere efforts to introduce credible elections?
Have you not witnessed the ground swelling restructuring of the oil sector?

Have you not witnessed a clear difference in governing style? I will give an example; a man wilfully blocked Jonathans motorcade in Abuja. Today, that man is alive, without a scratch from the episode. He was taken to court. . . But then, some Nigerians love to be beaten up and spat on, so they might not appreciate such changes.

I could go on and on about the deep and positive changes Jonathan has brought about in 3 short months, one short post is hardly enough.

Acidosis:
^^No more qs, and thanks for answering the former. . I was expecting to see a harsh response from you but my expectations were cut short. . .

So you actually tempt people like the devil? What did the girl do to you?!

[quote author=Sharon_f link=topic=494924.msg6551228#msg6551228 date=1281482146]Thanks
Approved plan still dey on paper. Anyway Il be back to this thread in 4 years.(if Nairaland hasnt crumbled).
Even Yar'Adua approved his 'plans'. He's dead now so. . .[/quote]
How can you compare Yar Adua to Jonathan? How can you even compare Yar Adua to anybody?

olafolarin:
this thread is very educative.
BEAF needs to be more receptive.

What do you mean? I believe I have been exceptionally receptive.
Do you know more than the Lagos royalty I quoted liberally?

It is left for the dreamy eyed to deny reality, as well as stretch the definition of Yoruba to include Ghanaian languages; how do these tribalists think Egun people feel about it? Do the Egun deserve their own identity? The tribalists don't care.
Is it any wonder that Egun people feel marginalised enough to want a state carved out away so they can have a sense of identity?

Tribalists always live in cuckoo land, creating their own private versions of reality like Hitler did.
We spectators will only look on and laugh most of the time, at other times, we will speak strongly.
Tribalism is the act of shooting oneself in the foot and placing the arse in the mouth.

Egun is not Yoruba. Let it kill the tribalists here giving each other solace and talking schizoid crap.
Again. . . This is the proof;

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3FIWNdQcTM&hl=en_GB&fs=1[/flash]

"John O. Castro?"
What sort of name is that? How can we prove he is not a Ghanaian?!

Up Jonathan! Jonathan for 2011!
The man has been quietly delivering and laying the groundwork for Nigeria's metamorphosis.

It seems that AC is not small enough already, so they are assassinating each other.

[quote author=Sharon_f link=topic=494833.msg6550155#msg6550155 date=1281471404]Where do these people get their info from?
the sources said, it was gathered, according to sources, it was learnt[/quote]Investigation is one of the reasons they are press men. . .
No matter how faulty they might be, they have their sources and provide the news that you or I couldn't.

[size=14pt]Nigeria: President promises $3.5B electrical grid[/size]
ABUJA, Nigeria

Nigeria's president is promising to have a new $3.5 billion electrical grid built in four years for Africa's most populous nation.

In a statement Tuesday, President Goodluck Jonathan's office also said he would unveil a plan Aug. 26 "for the reformation of Nigeria's power sector to the country's private sector." The statement offered no other details.

The promise by Jonathan comes to a West African nation long beset by blackouts and problems with its aging federal power grid. Everyone from large corporations to families living in one-room apartments almost entirely rely on private diesel generators to provide electricity.

The promise also comes as Nigeria's presidential election looms as soon as January.

http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D9HGP0GG0.htm

honeric01:
AC is bad ANPP is bad PDP is bad, which party is the saint?

Yes, they are all bad, so we have to be practical in dining with the devil.

I posted this elsewhere about this very matter. Ribadu is about to embark on a headlong dash into oblivion with a microscopic sectional party that is as bad (most likely worse) than the PDP.

I am wondering why a great guy like Ribadu would want to sacrifice himself so cheaply. Ribadu is one of my very few Nigerian hero's, I just wish he would have the patience to either lead the formation of a worthwile party with grassroots reach and machinery, if he must contest outside of the PDP.
I would have thought this period would be his best chance of securing a powerful bargaining position within the PDP.

chosen04:
. . . . .And one of his unfinished works must be another increase in BRT buses fare?

Seriously, this "unfinished contract" excuse has to be about the worst and most damning excuse any of our leaders can give.

[quote author=na_so link=topic=494763.msg6548974#msg6548974 date=1281458152]who dash AC three states? no be just Lagos and EDO?[/quote]My bad.

@topic
I am wondering why a great guy like Ribadu would want to sacrifice himself so cheaply. Ribadu is one of my very few Nigerian hero's, I just wish he would have the patience to either lead the formation of a worthwile party with grassroots reach and machinery, if he must contest outside of the PDP.
I would have thought this period would be his best chance of securing a powerful bargaining position within the PDP.

ikenwan:
Just for the record, it is possible to duplicate thumb-prints or to temporarily replace them. Any real biometric detection system should utilize prints / optical / retinal scanning to make it harder to fool the systems.

There have been one or two rumours about retinal scanning being part of the process. There is also a listing for camera's, but those don't do retinal scanning. Lets hope it goes that far.

[size=14pt]AC Ticket - I Can't Be Ribadu's Running Mate - Fashola[/size]
Dada Paul
9 August 2010

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Lagos — Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu, former governor of Lagos State and his successor, Mr. Babatunde Raji Fashola are engaged in seeming political battle following revelations that Fashola has rejected Tinubu's offer- asking him to be running mate to Mallam Nuhu Ribadu, on the presidential ticket of the Action Congress (AC).

Investigations by LEADERSHIP revealed that the AC has started mounting suffocating pressures on Ribadu to contest the presidential election hoping to cash in on his popularity among a section of the civil society. The party was said to have sent emissaries to Ribadu, even before President Goodluck Jonathan granted him pardon and converted his dismissal from the police to retirement.

According to a source, "The former Lagos governor had thought of the idea of easing out Fashola from the governance of Lagos and installing one of his closest loyalists, and that the idea of pairing Fashola with Ribadu came in handy."

While negotiations were still on with the former chairman of Economic and Financial Crimes Commission (EFCC}, Tinubu was said to have broached the idea with Fashola who appeared reluctant to embrace the option.

It was learnt that Fashola immediately called a secret meeting with Ribadu and assured him of funding his presidential project, saying he would prefer to contest second term in Lagos.

[color=#ff0000]Fashola reportedly told Ribadu that he had so many unfinished works in the state and that his successor in 2011 might use the non completion of some contracts to blackmail him.[/color]

"The party hierarchy has been informed that Fashola will not take the running mate option in 2011 and that the attention has since been shifted to the South South where the search is on for a credible Ijaw candidate who will accept to run with Ribadu", the source stated.

But LEADERSHIP gathered that the presidential ambition of Ribadu had pitted him against his closest friend, Mallam Nasir el-Rufai. Sources close to the duo said that the former minister of the Federal Capital Territory has severally warned Ribadu not to team up with the AC in trying to destroy another common friend, President Goodluck Jonathan.

El-Rufai's position, according to sources is that Ribadu needed time to build bridges across the Niger and gain more administrative experience within the system other than the law enforcement credential he now parades.

The former minister was also said to have told Ribadu not to fall for the tricks of Tinubu and other AC leaders who are planning to raise his hopes and dump him at the last minute.

http://allafrica.com/stories/201008100376.html

[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=494763.msg6548693#msg6548693 date=1281455960]Jonathan is really pushing timi to the wall anyways,thankGod pdp is finally breaking into piece perhaps with the various alliance by the Ac and other opposition parties,i see pdp losing seriously next year[/quote]Is that a joke? ANPP has only 3 states, AC has only 3 states as well.
It doesn't matter what party Timipre joins, he cannot beat Jonathan in Bayelsa. The AC is only displaying desperation by taking in an unabashed agbero.

[size=14pt]Jega: Senators query N13bn profit margin for ICT vendors[/size]
Tuesday, 10 August 2010 01:12 Kehinde Akintola 

…warn civil servants against misleading INEC chairman

The Senate on Monday expressed dismay over the sum of N13 billion or 30 percent being profit margin to middlemen (vendors) to be engaged for the procurement of direct data capture machine (DCC) out of the N67.38 billion capital budget submitted by the Independent National Electoral Commission (INEC) to it for consideration. INEC in its initial proposal sent to the Senate requested for the sum of N17.2 billion but on discovery of the error in the computation consulted with Budget Office with a view to correcting the changes.
. . .

http://www.businessdayonline.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=13503:jega-senators-query-n13bn-profit-margin-for-ict-vendors&catid=85:national&Itemid=340

[size=14pt]No Automatic Ticket, AC Warns Sylva[/size]
Osa Okhomina
9 August 2010

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Yenagoa — The leaders of the Action Congress (AC) in Bayelsa State yesterday insisted that there would be no automatic ticket for the Bayelsa State governor, Chief Timipre Sylva, as the party would stick to the strict procedures required for new members.

There were indications at the weekend of a new realignment plan by a faction of the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) loyal to Chief Sylva to dump the party and move into the Action Congress (AC), in order to secure the ticket for a second term in 2011.

The decision by the governor and his faction to find another nesting ground to actualise his second term ambition, followed the perceived unsuitability of the ongoing reforms of the PDP to the second bid of the governor and the power wielded by President Goodluck Jonathan at the national level.

The plan to move out of the ruling PDP by Sylva and his loyalists heightened with the reported meetings between him,the former governor of Lagos State, Chief Bola Tinubu and other chieftains of the party ahead of AC's convention in Lagos.

While the governorship flag-bearer of the party in the 2007 election and the 2008 re-run election, Mr. Ebitimi Angbare, who expressed caution over the reported decision by Governor Sylva and his loyalists to decamp to the AC, insisted that there was no visible sign indicating that the governor has decided to join the Action Congress.

Other leaders of the Action Congress including a former member of the House of Representatives and the Bayelsa East Senatorial flag- bearer of the party in the 2007 polls, Hon. Ebikekeme Ere, a governorship aspirant under the AC and leader of the Ijaw National Congress (INC) in Lagos, Arch. Denzel Kentebe and the state Chairman of the party, Comrade Miriki Ebikibina, said they were yet to be approached formally by the governor and his loyalists on whether he intends to join the party.

http://allafrica.com/stories/201008100941.html

Basically, they are giving him till mid October. Funny when you consider that elections would be in January!
Why didn't they give something like one week?
9ja peeps sha!

[size=14pt]Nigerian Senate approves $585 million election budget[/size]
Tue Aug 10, 2010 2:54pm GMT 

(Reuters) - Nigeria's Senate on Tuesday approved an 87.72 billion naira budget for the country's electoral commission to organise an overhaul of voter lists and buy additional ballot boxes ahead of January polls.
Presidential and parliamentary polls are due to be held in Africa's most populous nation in less than six months but the electoral register is in dire need of being updated.

"The request for additional funds is to cover the cost of procuring electronic equipment and other ancillary expenses related to the conducting of a fresh voter registration exercise as well as the procurement of additional ballot boxes and payment of staff," the submission to parliament said.

The House of Representatives is also expected to approve the budget for the Independent National Electoral Commission (INEC) on Wednesday, before it is sent to President Goodluck Jonathan for final approval.

Parliament last month passed a constitutional amendment bringing elections forward to January, leaving little time for reforms needed to avoid a repeat of chaotic 2007 polls.

An electoral roll riddled with fictitious names and omitting legitimate voters was one of the main problems at the 2007 polls, which were so marred by ballot stuffing and intimidation that observers deemed them not to have been credible.

INEC has said the spending plan was largely for the purchase of 120,000 electronic voter registration machines, including laptop computers, finger print scanners, cameras and printers to issue voter cards.

http://af.reuters.com/article/topNews/idAFJOE6790NI20100810?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews

Whether we like it or not Obj has printed himself indelibly on the Nigerian political landscape. One thing to be grateful for is his anti-zoning stance and the fact that he has a huge network across the country to press for equity to be brought about in the country.

The Odi massacre is his indelible negative mark.

gozzilla:
I meant that when i registered i put my thumb in ink and pressed it against a voters card - that is finger thumbing - (e fit no dey dictionary sha)

The difference this time, is that your thumb print will be turned into digital code and stored in a database, so that it can be called up anytime and anywhere, without have to search through paper files. It will no longer be on paper were it can be erased, water can destroy it.
When you vote, the system will look at your fingerprint and compare it with the one it has in its memory and verify if they are the same. . . All done by machine.
It will make rigging a horribly difficult thing to pull off; the usual low tech method of ballot stuffing will simply not work, any rigging (if possible) would have to be done with real voters.

[quote author=onye_ngbu link=topic=494237.msg6545905#msg6545905 date=1281432280]I have to fault you on that one Beaf.

Your windows XP and Vista analogy doesnt apply to what the man is suggesting here. Infact it nails it!

Why buy a new Notebook with 3GHz processor and install Vista just to run the same windows office 2003 you have been running extra-comfortably with another PC of 2GHz processor and windows XP.

Remember, he asked:
Voters registration runs on a documentation software and nothing has changed much in [b]the way [/b]voters registration is being conducted and processed for anyone to say the old one is outdated. If you think, there is any that couldnt be corrected by resident software engineers at INEC, abeg tell me.

The man made a whole lot of sense and I wonder how you cant see it that way.[/quote]Iwu's 2006 software did not require digitalised representations of your thumbprint or your eyes. There is no amount of stretching that resident software engineers can do to create such a dramatic upgrade. It would be like fixing wings to a bike and trying to fly it, that is how dramatically different biometric and non-biometric systems are.

Also, the mere fact that we had Bill Clintons etc in Iwu's register only shows that its security was non-existent. I believe that from what we know so far, what Jega is proposing is a quantum leap from the unverified manual entry system Iwu introduced; so all requirement and methodology is bound to be radically different.

If we are to query the cost of Jega's system, it clearly cannot be done on the the basis of Iwu's register; so Prof Nwosu's claims are highly out of order.

[quote author=Aloy_Emeka link=topic=494318.msg6544378#msg6544378 date=1281404997]Whenever you go, try and avoid the likes of teepeeeah. Their bad belle no get chapter 2 unless you don't want to go back to Florida alive.[/quote]God will protect Ileke Idi from menopausal winshes, principalities and powers and rulers of darkness!

ikenwan:
The deployment of the voting registration system would entail both hardware and software. Still, the software costs in no way justify the expense. And being that hardware price decreases when bought wholesale from a retail,

Actually, the only real expense would come from hiring and training the voting personnel.

I saw an earlier post you made by viewing your profile. I believe your view of what such a system would entail does not take every aspect into consideration; for example, you mentioned the possibility of using an MS Access database as the central store, but MS Access only allows a concurrency of 20 users max. It is easy to see that system with a MS Access backing store would crash fairly immediately, whereas a real life system would have to be an extremely robust and crash proof network with a distributed database; I'm sure it's already possible to start hearing the heavy thud of Dollars.

There are a thousand other things to consider, such as bandwidth and the infrastructure to deliver it; to the best of my knowledge, the country does not yet have anything adequate in place.
There will also need to be some intelligence on the client machines to do all biometric processing, display instructions etc; because the servers and network would not soon crash if such things are done remotely. etc etc

If we really mean to get it right by harnessing technology, then its going to cost some real dosh.

I can almost swear I've seen that pic before. I think its from a Northern riot, but trust our press people with their copy and paste tactics.

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=494318.msg6544211#msg6544211 date=1281401881]They are. . . . dem plenty for ekiti well, maybe Ado[/quote]Poor Ileke Idi. You're missing home, thats why Hausa men don be like Yoruba for your eye.

babapupa:
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Some also have deep resentment for Lagos state and it doesn't matter what the state is doing good or bad, they'll trash and badmouth it.
. . .

God! Is this not the sign of some sort of mental problem? What sort of mind produces a statement like that?
Ridiculous.