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[quote author=nne_mak link=topic=357579.msg5027896#msg5027896 date=1259660233]WoW, these pic are very correct and I saw this kind scenario at the same market just last Saturday. Hmm thru the shanties by the water sides are all gone thanks to the governor? But to all outside the country, quit eating kilishi ang 9ja suya cos all the abattoir in 9ja are like this,[/quote]Avoid that market if you can. [size=14pt]You can die of cancer just by visiting or living near the place.[/size]
The carcinogens given off by burning tires are the most toxic in the World.

No2Atheism:
Uncle Sege has boxed these people into a corner . . .

They have only two options . . . either they agree to obey the constitution and lose two years out of their 3 years . . .or they try to fight the scenarion and hence end up speeding up the break up of Nigeria.

. . .Sege has since moved base from Ota to Abuja, to personally man the Goodluck faction.

Ibori has relocated to Dubai to rally the David Mark faction (Ibori wants to be VP under a Northerner).

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You make a lot of sense.
I will however suggest that a realistic period be given for each state to come up to par. Within that period, education should be made both free, compulsory and of international standard.
Also, any states not having the required funds to develop self sufficiency, should be given loans by states with financial muscle.

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Thanks a lot for that link. I hope the likes of kobojunkie can read it before advocating crimes against the constituition.

pcicero:
@Poster
I'm sure you have enough money to defend yourself from the libelous suit starring you in the face? It is not enough to keep posting nonsense on nairaland because it is uncensored. I have often wondered why you have not been banned already.

The mad fool has already been banned. parrot = walakolobo.

Paroh_frey is just a demented lowlife scratched out of the gutter that goes around making death threats and talking like a fool.

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Go and sit down jare, you are 100% delusional.
Rest for some time so that your eyes can clear before posting.

You think because you can post google maps (like any 10 year old), that makes you the equivalent of Awo, Akintola Williams etc? My friend, get your family to find you help, because what you're thinking isn't normal; no matter how right it seems to you.

You want to declare war from your room in Canada. Wash your eyes.

Kobojunkie:
So, it has yet to occur to you, by now, that your continued attempt to denigrade me for having a view contrary to yours, rather than actually attacking the points made, is what is infantile at best?
. . .

You have made no points apart from quack loudly like you're going to burst into flames.

All I have done is point out the foolishness in supporting criminal acts against the constituition and encouraging a belief that is right for Goodluck Jonathan to  commit a criminal act by foolishly "shutting down his boss or something". Are you inciting a violent act?

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My friend, will you sharap!
Please just tell us the type of tea you are drinking that has made you sign as Egbe Omo Oduduwa. We want to avoid dat kain tea!

Kobojunkie:
Not all of ‘em!  This one has taken it to a whole 'nother dimension!  Can you even compare him to the last VP we had? Though I disagreed with most 99.9% of Atiku, I still know that he at least moved some muscle and made it clear he was alive and the VP. Even as far as to run against the president.

This one siddon for background like WALLPAPER dey watch as Yar adua dey play am like idiot, and im no even YARI !

I can understand Bankole not having enough liver to push for removal of the president for the many “unconstitutional” vacations that the man has availed himself of since taking office, but the way I see it, Jonathan has NO PROBLEM with the president's actions. Why? Because Jonathan has YET TO SAY THAT HE DOES.

We can pretend from today to the morrow that we can READ Jonathan's mind but the fact remains that the Nigerian people DO NOT KNOW IF Jonathan even sees anything wrong in the way the country is being run, simple!!

. . .And of course, Bankole has whispered into your divine ear that he isn't happy with Yar Adua (no other person ahs heard it); that is why you excuse him for "not having enough liver to push for removal of the president" and want to overturn the consituition?
Like Don Quixote, your intellectual moistures have dried up. You are doing yourself no good with these comical rants.

mbulela:
this is where we depart.
you and i have diametrically opposing view of the man Goodluck Jonathan.
i think you are ascribing too much intelligence to that man.
there was no power play.
i simply think that he was handpicked as Odili's hands were way too dirty and his heart too greedy for the position.
well, only time will tell who is correct.
but i am convinced that the man Jonathan is a docile,inept, clueless vice president.
you have not made any effort to convince me otherwise.

I haven't ascribed intelligence to him (even though he is). No all I'm saying is that he isn't docile; rather he is a serious mountain.
As to not convincing you, 90% of the position comes from the depths of ND politics, hence I stated my intention not to defend my words; however, I have left several hints (especially in the post you quoted last).

Kobojunkie:
I sort of agree, and that is why I think the Ijaws are best sticking to the "Obasanjo installed him" fable when it comes to Jonathan because all I have seen in the last 2 and half years is a BRICK. If he is really alive, then why has he yet to shut down his boss or something? I mentioned somewhere that even Atiku, was more outspoken and we all knew where he stood on his superior's actions. This one just sitdown like say IT IS NOT HIS BUSINESS AT ALL. I mean come on!!!

What will he tell us is his reason for not saying something or even TRYING at least (even if he gets put his place each time)? Would he say “because he was not installed as PRESIDENT, he did not see reason for him to even move a muscle, seeing the state in which the one that sat on the head seat put the nation in?” Would we hear something like “If you make me president THEN I will do something, otherwise, I will do nothing for you” ? TUFIA !!! roflmao!!

Infantile.

No amount of hyperventilation will change the constituition or make anyone commit criminal acts by foolishly "shutting down his boss or something".

Imagine one poor, wretched and lost soul, exhausted after a hard day's work (and drinking the wrong tea), signing as Egbe Omo Oduduwa!
Biobaku and Awo don suffer!

Kobojunkie:
How in the world did I put words in your mouth there?  Stating that I thought Obasanjo did it all is putting words in your mouth? Man, you need to get a life , if you don't have one. If you do not agree, all you need to is state that you are not of the school of thought that Obasanjo installed the guys we have today, rather than go off ranting about how miserable you are, thinking you insult me by doing just that. Jeeezzz!!!

Asking people questions now equates to making a statement?
Go back, check the tone off your writing. . . and jump off a cliff.

mbulela:
bros,
you are exaggerating matter.
Jonathan did not do anything to outsmart the people you mentioned.
Obasanjo (in his own wisdom?) picked him.
don't try to rewrite history.
the man is inept and all other adjectives i used in my previous post.

your second point on Ibori falls within the framework of the 75% you ascribed to me earlier.

No, the only thing that applies from what you said earlier is that his hands are not clean. Yes, there are strong allegations that he's got dirty hands. . . But he is far from docile.

There was a lot of intrigue and power play that saw him become VP instead of Odili, the same power play saw his house bombed by political thugs.

babapupa:
There is indeed no honor among thieves.

lol @ class act,

What's so classy about blowing up  and spilling the blood of innocent people?

Abeg go and hide jare! Leave serious people to comment.
. . .This is the same fellow pretending to represent Odua; the one who declared that one miserable patrol boat was Odua's new navy. . . Damn!

Unu go wound pesin wit laugh o!

mbulela:
so do we agree that he is docile and more importantly that his docility is not a strategic intent but an inherent ineptitude or cluelessness, better still a result of being out of his depth.

No we don't I was being sarcastic. He is shy and quiet, but certainly not docile. He overcame many powerful enemies to get where he is today, including James Ibori, Obong Attah, Peter Odili (all real roughnecks). James Ibori is now reported to have based himself in Dubai to to marshall the anti-Jonathan forces.

mbulela:
Beaf,
your estimation of Jonathan is grossly exaggerated.
i challenge you to reveal the backing he supposedly has.
when i think of he and yar adua at the helm of affairs in the country, i just shudder.
how such inept, dull and clueless men found themselves to the seat of power in a country as strategic and combustible like ours baffles me.
one of the Nigerian daily days back wrote a profile on him labelling him an academic scholar,i almost fainted.
Jonathan, an academic scholar??
The Nigerian education system deserves a funeral in that case.
the man should just play along with whatever the likes of Ibori and Saraki cook up in the name of a plan.
He does not have the heart nor the brain for such strategic positions.
to make matters worse,his hands are not even clean.
No sane person can panic over Jonathan.
the northern elite are panicking over their individual selfish interests.each is trying to position himself for the looting bazaar that lies ahead.
in all this,we the masses do not factor into the equation.
It is a shame because the barbarians are at the gate again.

You have 75% of the answer. The remaining 25% lies in "docile" Jonathan Goodluck's backing. . .

Kobojunkie:
Oh bloody . . . !! Roflmao!!!

I guess everyone don dey speak out on where dem dey for all this. lol

If you have followed MEND, you will find that they are a class act whose logic is not what you think it is. Start by reading their "denial" again.

. . .Some time in the past.
http://mobile.modernghana.com/mobile/217536/1/quit-mend-tells-jonathan-orders-blockade-of-waterw.html

MEND disowns JRC over secession threat
National News Dec 1, 2009

By Emma Amaize
WARRI — Movement for the Emancipation of the Niger Delta (MEND) weekend divorced itself from a statement by the Joint Revolutionary Council (JRC) on Sunday, threatening possible secession by Ijaw ethnic group should Vice President Goodluck Jonathan be forced to resign from office.

Vice President Jonathan had since denied the rumour that he was under pressure to resign. The permutation of those wishing him to quit was to pave the way for a Northern successor in the event of a vacancy as a result of President Umaru Yar’Adua’s ailment.

In an e-mail statement signed by its spokesman, Jomo Gbomo, the group said,  “Movement for the Emanci-pation of the Niger-Delta hereby distances itself from a statement reportedly made by a group calling itself the Joint Revolutionary Council (JRC).

“As far as we know, this group exists only in cyberspace and there is no collaboration of any sort with this imaginary group as claimed in the misleading statement.

“The Movement for the Emancipation of the Niger Delta is apolitical and will continue to remain focussed in the fight for land ownership and resource control for the impoverished people of the Niger Delta.  We will neither act in haste  nor  be drawn into political speculation.”

The JRC, which claimed to be representing MEND, the Reformed Niger Delta People’s Volunteer Force and The Martyrs Brigade, in an online statement signed by its spokesperson, Cynthia Whyte, had warned that the resignation of the Vice President would provoke a situation of anarchy and possible secession of Ijaw nation and the Niger Delta from the Nigerian federation.

The statement reads in part: “On behalf of the Joint Revolutionary Council, comprising the Movement for the Emancipation of the Niger Delta, we wish to warn the Vice-President of the Nigerian state, Sir Goodluck Jonathan, from resigning from his position in response to purported pressures being mounted on him by Northern cabals.

“The resignation of Vice President Goodluck Jonathan may lead to grave anarchy and possible secession of Ijaw and Niger Delta territory from the Nigerian state.

“We wish to remind all men of goodwill that our decision to increase progressive engagement with the Nigerian state is much strengthened by the sincere involvement of Vice President Goodluck Jonathan.

“We, therefore, condemn any attempt to undermine him or question his ability and capacity for service to his President, Yar’Adua. For too long, dubious Northern cabals have continued to exploit the ignorance of Southern politicians.”

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2009/12/01/mend-disowns-jrc-over-secession-threat/

https://www.punchng.com/images/February/Friday/pix2007020912171182.jpg

[quote author=becomrich, link=topic=359732.msg5027083#msg5027083 date=1259639531]I think it is important for member of the Army from the north to see google earth and see what the population is. Except they want to die. That is my last word.

Beaf why dont you read your history about the Egbe Omo Oduduwa. And you would know, that nobody is joking with you.[/quote]Please show me the map of Egbe Omo Oduduwa.

Sign

Egbe Omo Oduduwa.

The word of General becomerich (whose phantom army can fit into a single room in his house in Canada).

www.nairaland.com/attachments/180447_ROTFLMAO_gif3d0c775232c7f27cf80592785b9635b6

Kobojunkie:
The “North” has yet to change its strategy in over 20 years. Attributing it all now to some supposed fear of Jonathan “the proven” BRICK of a VP is ludicrous.

Now, if Jonathan were to rise up tomorrow to, at least take a different stance than that of his boss, I bet the whole nation will be shocked. But till then, the man is as comatose as his boss has been for the past 2 and more years and it ain’t gonna do any group, any much group to align itself with him. Even if the president decides to step down tomorrow, there is really not much evidence to show that his VP will be any different considering the two have been at the TOP two seats of the nation for over 2 years with nothing worthy coming from that end to this day.

If I was from his tribe, and there was the chance to swap him, I would do that in a heart beat.

Stupid.

gadogado:
here's how i see the situation, any of the following are options:

1) The northern oligarchs parley with General Dambazau (who is from kano) and happens to be the chief of army staff to stage a coup and the reason they'd give to the international community (IC) will be "to save nigeria from anarchy and organize/conduct fresh elections" that way, the north will be in power and when the army organizes fresh elections, they'll still produce a northerner.

2) I heavily doubt that northerners will want a situation where jonathan is president and a northerner is VP, so they'll 'as stated' force his resignation which is obviously a bad precedent not to mention risky or they'll simply let him stay in power with many conditions (subject to betrayal) if they let him stay in power, they'll circle him like a bunch of wolves looking at fresh antelope meat. they'll control him firmly and being jonathan who is not exactly a suave politician, he'll remain docile.

3) Or they could just do what they're doing now and pray yar'adua doesn't die so he can remain in the hospital while president and come back when he's better (only for another episode to follow)

4) They could allow Turai to finish out his term as Ibori promised her or they could get a "turai approved" northern candidate, one of her in-laws obviously, more likely to be yuguda to finish out yar'adua's term in which case, NASS would mandate a special election for the office of the president and the PDP would install yuguda as president. This would certainly appease her since she seems to be very powerful (she can even sack a minister of petrolium), i doubt turai can make a good president, she would be the cause of much mockery, and i think some forces wouldn't let that happen to begin with. unless everybody in nigeria has become an inactive apathetic spectator.

The North see's a Jonathan Goodluck presidency as the last nail in the coffin of their hegemony, that is why they are panicking and thinking up these very foolish scenario's. Each of those scenario's will see to the dismemberment of Nigeria, yet Northern politicians love oil to the point that they have been in such a headlong dash that they abandoned development of their homes, which have now been taken over by 10 million impoverished almajiri's and Boko Haram. They have grown fat (and seemingly stupid) on oil, are they planning to eat sand now?

Calsito:
Some people on Nairaland will never understand the politics of Nigeria that is the reason why u post whatever you like. Read books like WHY WE STRUCK, AWOLOWO'S VOICE SERIES, MY COMMAND, A PLAY OF GIANTS, THE SWAMP DWELLERS,POLITICS OF THE SOVIET UNION apply this to issues going on in NIGERIA AND YOU MAY ALSO WATCH KEIFER SUTHERLAND 24 Series. If you can do the above-mentioned I believe you guys will understand politics better than the comment you post here.

Unfortunately, politics in Nigeria has swung a full 180 degrees. What you think is relevant has been stood on its head; there is a new political landscape and that is what is causing panic in the Northern cabals. Power is being ruthlessly wrenched from their steely grip.

Those who say Jonathan Goodluck is docile or a mumu are making a tragic mistake. . . The North is acting strange, precisely because they know that the VP is a serious mountain.
I will not be defending the above, but have made the statement so that all interested folk can dig and find facts on Jonathan Goodluck's support base; anything else, na yarning dust .

. . .We are mere passengers in our stolen country.

Council of State (Nigeria)

The Nigerian Council of State is an organ of the Nigerian Government. Its functions include advising the executive on policy making.

Composition
The Council of State consists of the following persons:
• President, who is the Chairman;
• Vice-President, who is the Deputy Chairman;
• All former Presidents of the Federation and all former Heads of the Government of the Federation;
• All former Chief Justices of Nigeria;
• President of the Senate;
• Speaker of the House of Representatives;
• All the Governors of the states of the Federation; and
• Attorney-General of the Federation.

Duties
The council has the following responsibilities:
1. Advise the President in the exercise of his powers with respect to the:-
• National population census and compilation, publication and keeping of records and other information concerning the same;
• Prerogative of mercy;
• Award of national honours;
• The Independent National Electoral Commission (including the appointment of members of that Commission);
• The National Judicial Council (including the appointment of the members, other than ex-officio members of that Council);
• The National Population Commission (including the appointment of members of that Commission); and
2. Advise the President whenever requested to do so on the maintenance of public order within the Federation or any part thereof and on such other matters as the President may direct.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_State_(Nigeria)

Throw the current constituition away and bring in one that gives the nation true federalism and[b] true accountabilty[/b].